View Full Version : New vortex StrikeEagle 1-6 sub $400
Jesse Tischauser
12-10-14, 08:51
I hear Vortex Optics is launching a new 1-6x24 scope called the StrikeEagle at SHOT show. It will have a new "AR-BDC" reticle designed with 3-gun type competitor shooting in mind (see photo below). It will weigh in around 17.6 oz and will MSRP at $429 which means it should be sub $400 when it hits the streets.
This is going to be a game changer for the entry level scope market! I can't wait.
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I like the simplicity of the reticle although a more definitive aiming point for the center (100yds) would be my preference. Something to really grab my eye but not too big.
A 1-6 for under $500 from a respectable vendor is going to be tough to beat.
A center dot in the horseshoe along with the bdc and I'd be sold.
jerrysimons
12-10-14, 12:59
This looks good. I have been waiting for something at this price point and feature set for a long time. What took so long?
Agreed on a center dot, it is second focal plane so the ring is not going to shrink on low power to look like a dot. A dot in the center would be nice.
That field of view is very good also!
Maybe it will bring different reticle options in the future? I'm sure for that price they will sell like hotcakes.
This looks good. I have been waiting for something at this price point and feature set for a long time. What took so long?
Agreed on a center dot, it is second focal plane so the ring is not going to shrink on low power to look like a dot. A dot in the center would be nice.
That field of view is very good also!
116' at a hundy is quite good, especially for the price.
I have been waiting for something at this price point and feature set for a long time. What took so long?
They probably had to find someplace outside Japan with labor rates low enough to make it that cheap. No joke. Does their catalog indicate country of origin? May have to wait to get our hands on one to see what's printed on the underbelly.
They probably had to find someplace outside Japan with labor rates low enough to make it that cheap. No joke. Does their catalog indicate country of origin? May have to wait to get our hands on one to see what's printed on the underbelly.
My guess is the Philippines, Quite a few of big-name scope manufactures have product assembled there.
PatrioticDisorder
12-10-14, 17:42
Why not a mil based scope? This looks like it would be a hit if it were mil/mil with .1mil increments, uncapped elevation and mils available for wimdage....
Uncapped adjustments are more expensive to build and must have a lock if you for sure don't want them to move. Remember a lot of cheaper scopes aren't even waterproof without the dust caps on. SWAT guys don't want exposed turrets at all because they're not taking shots over 100 yards and don't want to risk inadvertent adjustment.
As far as .1 mill increments, one can only guess why not. Probably because the average guy at that pricepoint doesn't know what a mil is. He knows what an inch is and probably thinks it's the same as MOA and for his purposes it's close enough.
mastiffhound
12-10-14, 18:29
It looks a hell of a lot like Primary Arms 1-6x, except for the logo, turret caps, and ballistic reticle (which only has a few ways it can be done anyway) it's close to exact. If it is just get the PA for $120 less. I'm sure that it would be stated that the internals are all different, just like Hi-Lux's New stated 50,000 hr red dot is different than the PA and Holosun red dots that the only difference is the logos that cost $50-$75 less. Even the nub on the PA 1-6x magnification adjustment is triangular shaped just like the Vortex.
30330
It's starting to feel a lot like 1980's America in the lower priced optic world. It's like how a Crown Vic, Grand Marquis, and Town Car were the same car that could be had with all the options of the others. They could all have power everything, rims, leather, have the same motors available, and the same transmissions. The only difference was the badge and some body work but underneath they were the same exact car. Hopefully they smarten up before they have to start cutting the fat like the big 3 did with Mercury, Oldsmobile, and Plymouth.
It looks a hell of a lot like Primary Arms 1-6x, except for the logo, turret caps, and ballistic reticle (which only has a few ways it can be done anyway) it's close to exact.
Wow! That's uncanny. The specs are nearly identical too. 10.5 inches long, 1/2 MOA clicks, 17+ ounces. People that do business in Asia have told me there's a parking lot you can go to with guys ready to make any scope you want. They'll stamp whatever logo on the side you can come up with and put it in a box. Then you head to the factory and see five different brands coming off the same assembly line. This Vortex looks like they didn't even try to hide what they're doing. I'm beginning to think any import optic with a high price tag is pure image to make you think it's worth the extra dough. If it fails they can replace it for pennies so why not offer an unlimited warranty. Most of them will never see real use anyway so it's a pretty safe bet financially. Then they get sloppy and start pulling stuff like this. I didn't even notice until you pointed it out.
sidewaysil80
12-10-14, 20:51
Frankly, I would be happy if they announced the Razor 1-6x would be available in a standard black finish...
If this fixes the notorious "daylight visibility" issues of the PST 1-4x I'm ready to buy. However, considering it's cheaper AND a 1-6x, they had to sacrifice in some areas to get the price lower than the PST line. So I'm left wondering in what areas will the PST 1-4x outperform this.
SeriousStudent
12-10-14, 23:42
Thanks for the info, Jesse.
Are you planning to write up an evaluation, if and when you get one? I'd be interested in what your thoughts would be. I'm not a 3gunner, but would be interested in putting something like this on my daughter's carbine.
It appears to be the same scope as the Primary Arms 1x6. Vortex is just the latest name to change the reticle(for the worse) and slap their brand on it.
https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_1_6X_Scope_with_Patented_ACSS_Reticle_p/paps1-6x.htm
Krampus
It sure looks like it it's very similar. Hopefully it's similar in optic quality to the pst line. That would be a win for sure. If not, why bother, just get a PA.
I would rather they made it a little better quality for a couple hundred more.
Jesse Tischauser
12-15-14, 10:12
Thanks for the info, Jesse.
Are you planning to write up an evaluation, if and when you get one? I'd be interested in what your thoughts would be. I'm not a 3gunner, but would be interested in putting something like this on my daughter's carbine.
I definitely have my hand up asking for an early T&E model. One of their employees posted on facebook that they won't be available until late spring or early summer.
I would rather they made it a little better quality for a couple hundred more.
I like this price point but I would also like a $600-700 version as well. Better eye box and glass is always welcome. It would fit in between this and the Razor HD II.
When I first saw this I thought it shared an uncanny resemblance to my PA 1-6 as well.
I don't think its likely that they use the same exact glass and coatings though.
I've had good luck with the couple of Vortex items I've procured so I like the idea. I too though it was way too much like the PA, but with a less useful reticle and higher price point. Hopefully they will offer some different reticles that are less gamer centric.
I got a chance to handle one of these today. The optical quality seemed on a par to the 1-4 PST I had and other Viper scopes I still own. Build quality also seemed comparable. The rep at their stand mentioned a retail of $329 which seems like a decent deal to me given their warranty and excellent service. I liked the reticle, not too busy. I can see one of these making it on to one my rifles at some point.
I got a chance to handle one of these today. The optical quality seemed on a par to the 1-4 PST I had and other Viper scopes I still own. Build quality also seemed comparable. The rep at their stand mentioned a retail of $329 which seems like a decent deal to me given their warranty and excellent service. I liked the reticle, not too busy. I can see one of these making it on to one my rifles at some point.
Did you like the reticle even though it doesn't have an aiming dot of some sort?
Have to say I did. It seems straight forward to me, put the target in the circle and line up with the cut off crosshair nubbin.
http://www.vortexoptics.com/uploads/sub_strike-eagle_1-6x24_ar-bdc_moa-t.jpg
I also pawed over it extensively at SHOT this week. I asked about sunlight visible, and they said they spent a lot of time getting the illumination brighter. I held it up to the showroom lights, and I could still see red instead of black like most inferior models.
I still want to get it outside, but I'll own one for sure. It's very lightweight, solidly built, and if it holds up like the other PST's I have, it will be a great DM scope.
Was the optic quality better than a pa 1-6?
sidewaysil80
01-24-15, 20:54
It's definitely reassuring to hear you guys praise its quality as well as potential daylight visibility. However, I'm still apprehensive due to price. I don't see how its cheaper than a PST yet delivers better daylight visibility and magnification. I really REALLY want to know how the two compare and what is inferior on this new model compared to the PST, something had be done cheaper or a corner cut in order to stay at this price point!?
I played with this scope quite a bit at SHOT, since I have two Primary Arms 1-6 scopes (Gen 1 and Gen 2), and I wanted to compare the Vortex since it seems very similar. My impressions are as follows:
1. The quality of the StrikeEagle 1-6 seemed a bit "cheaper" than the Vortex PST 1-4
2. The illuminated reticle did not seem bright enough to be daylight visible. The reticle was pretty bright indoors, but based on my experiences with other illuminated variable reticles, I don't think it will truly be daylight visible
3. The glass seemed pretty good for the price, but it didn't seem like true 1x on 1 power
4. A dot in the middle instead of a line would have made it a much better reticle IMO
In a nutshell, it seems like a good scope for the money, and another great low priced option for a variable optic. That being said, after playing with it a lot at SHOT (mounted on and off a gun), I think the Gen 2 Primary Arms 1-6 with ACSS reticle is definitely the better scope. The Gen 2 Primary Arms seems much closer to a true 1x, has a much brighter illuminated reticle, has the center dot in the reticle instead of a line, and the ACSS reticle BDC goes out to 800 yards and has windage holds and ranging system built in. I think the Primary Arms Gen 2 definitely beats out the Vortex, and it's $100 cheaper so you can put the extra money towards a mount.
Boba Fett v2
01-25-15, 12:27
It also looks a lot like the CCOP 1-6x24. Probably rolled off the same assembly line.
Well that sucks. I was hoping for improved optic quality over the PA.
Still wish leupold would make a vxr patrol in 1-6. That would have been boobies.
They have released a better reticle in the vx6, but for that price might as well get a razor hd2.
So the hurry up and wait continues, or just spend north of 1000 and get over it.
shrewd yasu
01-25-15, 16:16
I keep hearing guys at the range mention this scope, and they're so excited about it.
These are the same guys who drop hundreds on plate carriers and crap (civilians).
All I can think is guys, it's CHEAPER that the pst 1-4 and made to compete with the even cheaper PA1-6
It's not gonna be as durable or well built as the pst viper. Why is everyone so excited?
sidewaysil80
01-25-15, 17:17
Honestly, instead of introducing sub $400 scopes apparently letting quality and performance suffer; why not improve upon the daylight visibility of the PST? That is literally the ONLY drawback people can come up with for that optic, however its big enough to be a deal breaker for some.
I'll go one better, PLEASE offer a standard black finish on the Razor HD GenII 1-6!
I sure wish Vortex would introduce a mid-grade (Viper PST) 1-6x instead of this budget stuff...
1slow01Z71
01-25-15, 19:14
After playing with one at SHOT I think the glass is a little better than the 1-4 PST and the reticle seemed decently bright. Ill probably pick one up for my 8" 300blk but I wont be ditching my razors. I too was hoping for a 1-6 PST, with capped turrets and a center dot. I think it'll be a hit for entry level 3 gun shooters.
Nightstalker865
01-25-15, 19:27
I sure wish Vortex would introduce a mid-grade (Viper PST) 1-6x instead of this budget stuff...
I think most of us feel the same way.
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I think the Primary Arms Gen 2 definitely beats out the Vortex, and it's $100 cheaper so you can put the extra money towards a mount.
I haven't compared the two but $100 for Vortex's excellent warranty may be enough for some to go with the Strike Eagle. I'll wait to get my hands on one before thinking about buying.
I haven't compared the two but $100 for Vortex's excellent warranty may be enough for some to go with the Strike Eagle. I'll wait to get my hands on one before thinking about buying.
I don't think that would be a bad choice. I think anyone who gets the Strike Eagle is getting a good scope for the money. I personally think the Gen 2 PA 1-6 with ACSS is the superior scope between the two, and Primary Arms seems to be great with warrantying their products, but you probably can't go wrong either way.
Well that sucks. I was hoping for improved optic quality over the PA.
Still wish leupold would make a vxr patrol in 1-6. That would have been boobies.
They have released a better reticle in the vx6, but for that price might as well get a razor hd2.
So the hurry up and wait continues, or just spend north of 1000 and get over it.
TANSTAAFL...
Apparently Vortex is smart enough to give some people what they think they need or want instead of just watching the money flow to their competitors. I can't argue with their logic. I bet the quality will be just fine for plinkers and intro 3 gun but it won't be in the same class as the PST. People buying on hope/rumor will be getting a reality check.
Krampus
Got mine in today. The reticle is actually nice in person and the glass I would say is on par with my SWFA 1-4 ($399.99 version).
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Boba Fett v2
06-19-15, 10:00
Ordered one from Euro Optic. We'll see how she turns out.
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Definitely don't mind the budget priced stuff from quality vendors who stand behind their product. Budgets are tight and I can't see dropping $1000+ on optics. Hell I'm willing to bet that 90% of shooters don't need the features of an MK6 nor would they even know what to do with them once they dropped that kind of cash.
I'd love to see a departure from BDC only reticles. They only work at specific MV, temp, elevation and pressure. IMO if you're going to spend the effort to be more accurate why not go a bit further and give me a reticle that can be more useful with various rounds at various environmental situations. I can do minute of man with a red dot or simple cross hairs and hold overs.
Jesse Tischauser
06-19-15, 14:54
If anybody else plans to order a scope hit me up with a PM or email and I'll send you a 10% off discount code for Optics Planet. Should put this scope sub $300 with the discount.
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Pics through the glass???
Boba Fett v2
06-22-15, 20:19
Pics through the glass???
There's a thread in the optic section on TOS that has through-the-glass pics posted today. The guy posted pics of his Razor HD 1-6x as a benchmark. The Strike Eagle held it's own is actually very impressive from the shots I've seen. Mine will be here on Wednesday, so I'll have some first hand observation.
Jesse Tischauser
06-23-15, 07:47
There's a thread in the optic section on TOS that has through-the-glass pics posted today. The guy posted pics of his Razor HD 1-6x as a benchmark. The Strike Eagle held it's own is actually very impressive from the shots I've seen. Mine will be here on Wednesday, so I'll have some first hand observation.
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As far as this scope goes, I'm seriously thinking of reworking my 16" gun in to an SPR type rifle with this scope in a Bobro mount, a Geissele SD-E, and a medium contour barrel from Sionics. The pics posted on TOS are pretty impressive IMO.
Boba Fett v2
06-27-15, 12:46
Received mine yesterday. Haven't launched any bullets yet, and I suspect it'll be a little bit before I get a chance to spend a morning at the range due to me and my son being a bit under the weather at the moment. Anyway, the scope appears to be of solid construction. At 17 oz. it's something I've gotten used to in terms of weight, which is about as good as good as you're going to get with regards to heft while still retaining some level of durability you can be confident in. The illumination dial has firm audible click adjustments and don't feel as if it can be accidentally bumped (think PA micro dot illumination adjustments). The elevation and windage dials appear to be just as well defined, no different from what you're already used to. A spare battery also resides under the windage dial cap, a nice little surprise I didn't expect to find. I appreciate the fact that Vortex decided to go with capped turrets on this model, as it makes more sense considering this is really designed for run and gun and not so much for precision. The eye relief is as good as you'd expect and there's no real big surprise here. The clarity of the glass itself is comparable to scopes costing double the price. You're getting a killer deal here. There's a slightly warm hue to the image when viewing, which adds a bit more contrast to the scene. Edge distortion is very well controlled across the zoom range, and appears virtually nonexistent. Chromatic aberration can be detected against brightly lit backdrops starting at around 4x to 6x. However, the CA isn't really that bad at all and is actually better controlled than some scopes I've seen that command a 4 digit price tag. The reticle is perfect for the intended application and the reticle illumination is as good as any non-red dot type illumination found on higher end scopes. Yes, you will loose the illumination if the backdrop is too bright (like the sky), but the reticle is bold enough to be seen without illumination even when the backdrop is considerably dark. I'm of the mindset that while illumination is nice feature it is hardly a necessity. I also feel that SFP is the best choice for this type of optic. Again, the reticle is designed for holdover rather than precision adjustments, and I personally feel FFP is wasted on optics with less than 10x at the high end of the zoom range. The only thing I'd change is the adding an "off" setting between each illumination setting. I didn't see any "Made in China" anywhere on the box or scope, but honestly it wouldn't matter to me at this point. If this scope proves durable in the long run, it could very well be the one that finally puts to rest the myth that all Chinese made optics are "junk". Only time will tell how this scope will ultimately fare, but so far so good. At the current price point it's really a no brainer.
Fuzzy-Reticle
06-28-15, 13:18
Any chance of a picture of the reticle? I know this is a pain to pull off but maybe Boba Fett can pull it off.
Boba Fett v2
06-28-15, 21:26
Any chance of a picture of the reticle? I know this is a pain to pull off but maybe Boba Fett can pull it off.
I just posted this on TOS. Image quality is certainly not at the level of DSLR, but I did the best I could with my smartphone. If you want to see it up close and in person just let me know. I sighted in at CMSC today.
Okay, so me and my son managed to break away for a couple hours to zero his 22LR and I brought along the Strike Eagle. We spent the majority of the time getting him sighted in and letting him punch holes in paper a little bit. By the time I got around to zeroing the Strike Eagle the thunder clouds were rolling in. I sighted in at 50 yds and wanted to stretch it out to at least 200 yds to gauge where the 200 yd hash mark got me with a .308 load. Was shooting off the bench using a sandbag rest. Light wind, est. under 5mph. Temperature was in the mid-80s. I only fired four rounds before I packed it in. The point of impact for the first shot was 4" to the right of center. I was using the tip of the stadia on the BDC. Made one windage adjustment that got me pretty much dead center and called it good. I'll let others who have more time on their hands to conduct box tests and such, but so far I'm satisfied with the result.
Ruger GSR .308 at 50 yd using Buffalo Bore Sniper 175gr SMK
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I have to apologize for the out of focus reticle in these pics. Was using my smartphone camera and the focus was on the backdrop rather than the reticle. However, should give you a good idea what to expect with regards to glass quality. Reticle illumination was set at 11.
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Fuzzy-Reticle
06-28-15, 21:34
Nice shooting. Thanks for taking the pictures. Wanted to go to Fort Carson and do some shooting today also but got side tracked. How is the eye relief on the Strike Eagle? It appears to have very clear glass. I might have to get one soon.
Boba Fett v2
06-29-15, 01:43
Nice shooting. Thanks for taking the pictures. Wanted to go to Fort Carson and do some shooting today also but got side tracked. How is the eye relief on the Strike Eagle? It appears to have very clear glass. I might have to get one soon.
The glass is very good at this price point. Was actually quite impressed with it. Eye relief is very forgiving at low power, but of course narrows as you move up the power band. The claim of 3.5" is pretty much accurate. Minimal eyebox shadow at 1x and allows for about an inch (est.) or so of flexibility at max power. At this price point I'd say give it a shot.
ETA: I'll add that the included cheap lens caps are about useless for anything other than keeping the glass clear during storage/transportation. The come off way too easily. Not a deal breaker.
How does the clarity compare to a PA 1-6?
Boba Fett v2
06-29-15, 09:42
How does the clarity compare to a PA 1-6?
I have no experience with the PA 1-6x, but check out the commentary by SuperSet72 and ducati650 in this thread (http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/676674_Vortex_Strike_Eagle.html&page=3) on TOS.
Another thread on TOS...
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/677512_Burris_MTAC_1_4_vs_Vortex_Strike_Eagle_1_6__picture_heavy.html
tvfreakarms
07-29-15, 05:13
I myself is looking for a budget optic for my tavor.
Not sure if I should wait for this vortex eagle strike or get the PA sec. Gen version.
From reading on some of these forums which one is better?
If there isn't much of a difference between the 2, is better to save yourself $60+ and go with the PA?
I dont have any experience with a optic so I really have no idea on what do get. Especially a FFP vs SFP optic.
Plz give me some ideas.
As of now I'm thinking of going with my PA micro rd and a magnifier.
But I would like a budget optic for sure.
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Priced at $329.99 in today's Midway sale catalog.
Jesse Tischauser
08-02-15, 04:26
Priced at $329.99 in today's Midway sale catalog.
Minimum advertised price is prolly set by vortex at $329.99.
Optics planet lists them at $330 and you can PM or email me and I'll send you a unique 10% off code to get it under $300. Of course both places still show back order.
tvfreakarms
08-03-15, 13:24
From what I read PA is coming out with a 1-8x FFP optic this yr. I'm curious about it.
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XD40Colorado
08-04-15, 15:50
24mm is a pretty small exit pupil for an 8x scope. Can't imagine the eyebox will be very forgiving.
tvfreakarms
08-04-15, 17:50
24mm is a pretty small exit pupil for an 8x scope. Can't imagine the eyebox will be very forgiving.
For the PA 1-8x scope that is coming out?
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tvfreakarms
08-04-15, 18:26
It seems most 1-8 scoped have 24mm exit pupil. Eve the high end scopes
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XD40Colorado
08-14-15, 15:07
Exit pupil is 3mm: 24/8. THat's pretty tiny. Eyebox will probably be pretty tight.
Jesse Tischauser
08-14-15, 15:13
Pretty detailed review from my buddy over at Optics Planet. Hit me up for a 10% discount on this scope or anything else Optics Planet sells
http://www.opticsplanet.com/gearexpert/2015/08/a-quality-1-6x-scope-for-under-400-vortex-strike-eagle-ftw.html
tvfreakarms
08-14-15, 16:50
Why not make it 1/4 moa clicks and FFP? I guess it cost too much
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Boba Fett v2
08-14-15, 17:00
Why not make it 1/4 moa clicks and FFP? I guess it cost too much
2 by 2...hands of blue
SFP is the right choice for this optic. There's no need for FFP for what this scope is designed for. And 1/2 MOA adjustments are fine as well. We're not talking about a precision optic here.
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Jesse Tischauser
08-14-15, 17:01
SFP is the right choice for this optic. There's no need for FFP for what this scope is designed for. And 1/2 MOA adjustments are fine as well. We're not talking about a precision optic here.
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Agreed. 1/4 clicks would be awesome but not a single one of the 6 or so 1-4 or 1-6 optics I have use 1/4 clicks.
Nice I can't wait to get one!! I love the vortex scopes
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Gunnar da Wolf
08-18-15, 20:07
I got mine a last week. I've made three trips to the range so far and the only drawback I can find it that the knob clicks could be more distinct. Nothing else needs changed.
Bottom end seems to be true 1X and works better than my Eotech for my 56 year old eyes. At 6X I can plainly see .22 bullet holes on a Shoot n See target at 200 yards and dimly make them out at 300. Eye relief is ample.
The lit reticle is visible in full August sunlight when set on "11". Using my 77gr SMK handload in my 20" rifle I sighted in at 100 yards using the tip of the verticle reticle. Proceeded to the 200 yard line and the rifle was dead on, moved to 300 yards and it was 1 1/2" low using the proper cross hairs. Now I've got to find a 400 and 500 yard capable range.
I'm going to shoot this scope over the next six or so months and try to find anything else I don't like. But for now I'm planning on buying at least one more for my 16" rifle.
Jesse Tischauser
08-19-15, 08:33
I got mine a last week. I've made three trips to the range so far and the only drawback I can find it that the knob clicks could be more distinct. Nothing else needs changed.
I just zeroed mine this week and I agree. The knobs and clicks are that of every other Chinese made scope. Almost identical to my primary arms 1-6, and the old millet dms 1-4 turds i used to own. They are not a deal beaker but definitely a place where cost is reduced.
On a positive note I didn't notice a huge difference in glass quality when zeroing it side-by-side with my vortex razor. Id shoot five shots with the StrikeEagle then five with the razor. Yes the razor has better glass but the strike eagle didn't make me grimace or wish for more when following the razor. I was shooting an hour before sunset at only 100 yards.
Mine should be here today and I was regretting the purchased until I found this thread, maybe it won't be so bad.
tvfreakarms
09-05-15, 13:37
I got mine a last week. I've made three trips to the range so far and the only drawback I can find it that the knob clicks could be more distinct. Nothing else needs changed.
Bottom end seems to be true 1X and works better than my Eotech for my 56 year old eyes. At 6X I can plainly see .22 bullet holes on a Shoot n See target at 200 yards and dimly make them out at 300. Eye relief is ample.
The lit reticle is visible in full August sunlight when set on "11". Using my 77gr SMK handload in my 20" rifle I sighted in at 100 yards using the tip of the verticle reticle. Proceeded to the 200 yard line and the rifle was dead on, moved to 300 yards and it was 1 1/2" low using the proper cross hairs. Now I've got to find a 400 and 500 yard capable range.
I'm going to shoot this scope over the next six or so months and try to find anything else I don't like. But for now I'm planning on buying at least one more for my 16" rifle.
Keep us up to date
2 by 2...hands of blue
I ordered mine from DSGarms. I'm giving it another month and then I might just go with the Millet 1-6x. Any feedback on this scope?
I'm having trouble posting I apologize if this is a dupe.
Call Allen at AA optics in Indiana. I got the scope, throw lever, and mount for $487
Jesse Tischauser
09-07-15, 10:00
I ordered mine from DSGarms. I'm giving it another month and then I might just go with the Millet 1-6x. Any feedback on this scope?
I'd be scared of those turrets personally. I'm ordering one now to compare to the StrikeEagle since Optics Planet carry them. Holler at me if you want a 10% off code when/if you order from Optics Planet.
http://www.opticsplanet.com/millett-1-6x24mm-dms-designated-marksman-red-dot-riflescope.html#photos
I'd be scared of those turrets personally. I'm ordering one now to compare to the StrikeEagle since Optics Planet carry them. Holler at me if you want a 10% off code when/if you order from Optics Planet.
http://www.opticsplanet.com/millett-1-6x24mm-dms-designated-marksman-red-dot-riflescope.html#photos
A buddy went with the Millet 1-6 instead of waiting for a Strike Eagle. He had some pretty serious issues with the scope. The first was with the turrets, they were almost impossible to reset to "zero" when zeroing the scope. I think he said it took him an hour to get the turrets re-set while zeroing mostly because of the poor turret design. Worse than that, the scope failed to hold the vertical zero setting after being pulled out of & dumped into a couple of barrels during the first 3-gun match it was used in. Maybe he just got a lemon, but the turrets are horrible either way.
Jesse Tischauser
09-10-15, 08:27
Moved my StrikeEagle to my Rhino Arms RA-5R HMR in 7.62mm for Generation III Gun Championship this weekend. Gonna see how it holds up to some .30 caliber abuse. Of course this thing shoots as soft as a stock .223 M4 with all its low mass internals and adjustable gas system. So it may not be the most tortuous of tests.
If anybody is still looking to pick up a StrikeEagle shoot me a PM or better yet an email and I'll get you a 10% off code for Optics Planet which makes this scope a $300 item.
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt219/jtischauser/1%20Forums/4C83CF38-6B91-460B-820C-14E7C06ED0A5_zpsqywlraka.jpg (http://s613.photobucket.com/user/jtischauser/media/1%20Forums/4C83CF38-6B91-460B-820C-14E7C06ED0A5_zpsqywlraka.jpg.html)
Hey Jesse what mount are running the Strike Eagle in?
Jesse Tischauser
09-15-15, 19:47
Hey Jesse what mount are running the Strike Eagle in?
The new American made Samson DMR. Optics planet has them for $150-160. They are a deal with an additional 10% off.
Thanks, it's a solid looking mount.
I'll check it out.
Gunnar da Wolf
09-22-15, 20:47
FWIW, I took mine on a family trip over the week of Labor Day. My 20" rifle dismantled and in the bottom of my rolling duffle, in a cargo box for a 700 mile round trip in the back of my pickup.
After we got home I took it to the range, fixed the bipod and put 3 rounds of my standard 77gr load into a 1" group on a steel plate at 100 yards. Then I put two into the "T" zone of an Action Target "Tactical Torso" at 100 yards and called it a day.
I think I'm liking this scope.
Who has these in stock and ready to ship?
Jesse Tischauser
09-29-15, 10:44
Who has these in stock and ready to ship?
Depends on the day. I doubt you find anyone with a stack of them looking for customers.
Try these guys http://www.kauffmanknivesandoptics.com They will donate to a very worthy cause when you buy any Vortex product when you use the code SWSF. That is where I bought mine!
M
The_crawfish
10-08-15, 12:59
Kenzie's optics has some on eBay (ordered one last night), but their website shows OOS
Those of you with experience using the Strike Eagle - any gripes? I'm looking for an optic that will be used on a 10/22. I don't want to spend an obscene amount of money, but I had been looking at the Trijicon Accupower, but this Strike Eagle is tempting.
Just take it for what it is which is a $300 magnified optic. In all honesty scopes at this level are what they are. Some will be better than others do to the quality of the components and assembly. You might get a diamond or a turd. I owned two Strike Eagles and Vortex mounts and sold all pretty quick. The more time I spent behind them the more frustrated I got and angry with myself for thinking they would be something other than what I really knew they would be. For me they just were not on par but for a guy with a budget they do have desired features and appeal. The Strike Eagle or the mounts would never sit on anything I would consider serious!
Yup gripes and not even close to anything Trijicon makes.
Just look at what you are spending and take it for what it is.
I've had mine for sometime now and I haven't found much I don't like about it. Is it a Viper PST 1-4, no, but for the 280-350 range I don't think you can beat it. My only gripe so far is, I like the concept of a BDC reticle, but a different reticle option would be nice such as a mil-dot or some of vortex's other reticles. The illumination works perfectly for any light conditions, zeros extremely easy and holds zero. If your looking for a lower power "precision" scope, this one isn't it. The reticle is to bulky and there isn't much as far as fine tuning adjustments to be made.
Just take it for what it is which is a $300 magnified optic. In all honesty scopes at this level are what they are. Some will be better than others do to the quality of the components and assembly. You might get a diamond or a turd. I owned two Strike Eagles and Vortex mounts and sold all pretty quick. The more time I spent behind them the more frustrated I got and angry with myself for thinking they would be something other than what I really knew they would be. For me they just were not on par but for a guy with a budget they do have desired features and appeal. The Strike Eagle or the mounts would never sit on anything I would consider serious!
Yup gripes and not even close to anything Trijicon makes.
Just look at what you are spending and take it for what it is.
So what exactly made you buy 2 and then decide they were a no go for you? Did they not hold zero? Did the glass degrade or fall out? Please elaborate for us.
Mike
Mike
I bought two because I had the chance to get them and was hopeful they would work out. The biggest issue was in the glass and eyepiece. I removed the rear, included, lens cap seeing they always get torn off in the heat of the game. For me to get clear focus at 50 yards the fast focus eye piece had to turned way out away from the body. There was a lot of play within the threads between the ocular eyepiece assembly and scope body. I mean a lot! This wiggle caused not only focus and optical issues with viewing it also effected the point of aim. As the eyepiece was moved back and forth the reticle would move 4-6" side to side and up and down at 50 which I can simply not except. Additionally when the reticle was illuminated it became soft and fuzzy and lacked its sharpness. The biggest deal breaker was the image was not clear edge to edge in fact the last 25% of the field of view lacked any definition compared to the center. Within the field of view the focus would come and go. If you focused the scope to be sharp around the reticle when viewing then areas around or outside the reticle like at the edges of a the target would be soft or out of focus. This is somewhat common in a lot of price point optics seeing attention and time is not given to quality of the lens grinding and the curvature of the lenses is not consistent.
Initially when I mounted it up and looked around the house and neighborhood it seemed OK but once I had it on the bench to zero the issues really showed. I am about really good glass these days and will not compromise on that. I found no reason at all to even open the box on the other seeing I knew what it really was. The issue I had with the mounts where the ring set did not match the tube diameter. When the scope was sitting in the rings there were noticeable gaps along the sides between the scope body and the outer edges of the rings. Not a fan of the tube being held in place from just the top and bottom of the ring set.
Crossgun,
That you for your reply. I have seen none of those issues with my scope so far. Not saying it did not happen, just not with mine, thank goodness! I guess the issue I have with your statement is how you are relating price with quality. This is a somewhat untrue statement and in my opinion would lead some to think that all quality things should cost more when in reality better is better, it has nothing to do with price.
You can have a bad experience with a high end product. It is how the company handles the problem that sets them apart with the low cost providers, but they can't fix the problem if they don't know about it. I have seen very high end 1911 smiths send out a gun and the thumb safety falls off! Did they fix it, you bet. Another cuts in a dove tail and leaves the surface unfinished and installs the rear sight! I made them aware of the issue and they fixed the problem.
Did you not give the company a chance to fix their issue?
I have, as I'm sure you do, some high end glass. I have not had one that I would not use to do a course with or hunt with or defend my life with. One had to go back for some tweaking. I won't buy from any company that will not stand behind their product. I only own two Vortex products. I have had zero issues with them, but if I did they would go back until they were done right.
Come on. You know to a large degree that price plays a roll and you usually get what you pay for. If you think that a Bushmaster is a better value than a Daniel Defense or BCM rifle or for that matter a Vortex Strike Eagle is on par with a Schmidt & Bender short dot or a Vortex Razor HD your mistaken. No way in hell can you expect Vortex to make the Strike Eagle for $300 as good as it does for $1400 with the Razor HD and that is what your implying. Price is quality especially if you understand what your paying for in glass. No reason to contact Vortex because I know they cant polish it enough to make it "right" or anything else other than what it is and I respect that as a consumer understand why they offer products at different price points. Guess the definition of right is where we differ.
Sure Vortex has their warranty and all they are going to do is give me another scope just like what I had. Their not going to take the time and fix a scope that cost them $50 to my liking and address the issues that more than likely exist in all of them. It is what it is and for many it will be fine but my comments and experience is accurate.
I dont own gear that I wouldnt take out the door either but it appears that my gear will differ from yours and thats fine. I decide what stays and what goes and it has nothing at all to do with what something cost.
Sounds like your experience with the Strike Eagle is the first reported. I would have bought a lottery ticket!
PS My AR's are Noveske's or KAC's
I put a Strike Eagle on my KAC SR-15 E3 MOD 1. I went out and zeroed it this weekend. For me it will do what I want it to do. Give me magnification. I did not notice the the play in the ocular eyepiece but it is there. I'm no marksmen so I don't think it will make a difference to me. Rapid fire at 100 yards prone I was able to keep my shots in at 4MOA. More than good enough for me. I have a T-2 in a KAC mount to run the rifle most of the time. I'm good with the performance of the strike Eagle at the price point.
sidewaysil80
10-13-15, 00:30
Does anyone have a Strike Eagle and a PST 1-4? I'm very curious to know how the glass quality/construction/illum./etc. differs between the two. I am not naive enough to think the cheaper Strike Eagle will out perform or be on par with the PST. However, I'm curious if the extra magnification is enough to compensate for whatever it comes up short with compared to the PST. Again, I'm looking for someone who HAS both and compared them side by side. Thank you!
-Tim Florio
Here's a deal on one that expected to be in stock 10/15. Comes with :B&H Photo Gift Card $25.00*Smith Optics Aegis Arc Compact Protective Eyewear - Field Kit (Black)*($105.00*Value)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1111564-REG/vortex_se_1624_1_strike_eagle_1_6x24_ar_bdc.html
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I've been holding out, hoping for some different reticle options.
How's the reticle working for those that own one?
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Went out yesterday and zeroed it in. Reticle is super fast at 50 yds (multi target head shots). Was only able to stretch it out to 200 yard but was hitting 8" steel standing. off hand all day long. I did not experience and of the issues that crossgun spoke about. The elevation and windage is a little loose for my taste but once dialed in I don't think you will be touching them.
Overall I think it's a great optic period, and for the price, it's a home run.
M
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