View Full Version : How many of you CHL guys also keep a long gun in the car?
Who carries handguns regularly, and also keeps a rifle or shotgun in the car?
If so, what is it?
When my 6th sense tells me, I throw the Colt AR carbine 7.62x39 with a 30 rd. USA mag in the trunk. Several weeks ago it rode in the trunk 6 days in a row otherwise it may go with me once a month.
I keep a duty 6920 in the trunk at all times but my vehicle is only used for commuting to and from work, other than that it's locked up in the garage. We've had instances when bad guys were conducting surveillance on our pov's at work and I had my personal SBR up front with me.
Had kept my carbine in trunk. Just bought an arx with folding stock to replace it in that role.
Just my opinion, but I think that the time required getting a long gun out of the trunk and deploying it would put you into an offensive not defensive mode (in most cases). The time spent getting out of your car, walking back to the trunk, opening your trunk then deploying the firearm would be better spent grabbing your pistol or just leaving the scene as quickly as possible.
Might be bad Ju Ju for you in a court of law if you pull a rifle/shotgun out of your trunk in a road rage incident rather than pulling your pistol and popping smoke ASAP. I don't know.
What kind of scenario do you expect while traveling in your car that would require a long gun?
Regardless of the type of firearm, leaving it in a vehicle isn't a good idea IMO. Vehicles get broken into and stolen, and then you've armed a criminal. Of course if you just toss it into your car when you leave home, and take it back inside when you get back, no problem.
Hell, I'd love to drive around with an AR within reach, but it's not really necessary, and can lead to trouble if you get pulled over.
Then you have the laws in your area. In NoVa, each locality is allowed to have it's own laws regarding long-guns, where they have to be, if they can be loaded, etc. So for me, the laws can change just a few miles down the road.
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Just my opinion, but I think that the time required getting a long gun out of the trunk and deploying it would put you into an offensive not defensive mode (in most cases). The time spent getting out of your car, walking back to the trunk, opening your trunk then deploying the firearm would be better spent grabbing your pistol or just leaving the scene as quickly as possible.
Might be bad Ju Ju for you in a court of law if you pull a rifle/shotgun out of your trunk in a road rage incident rather than pulling your pistol and popping smoke ASAP. I don't know.
What kind of scenario do you expect while traveling in your car that would require a long gun?
Sometimes a rifle might be what you need to break contact. The the comment above about being surveilled.
Some states have laws governing possession of a LOADED long gun in a vehicle, some don't. But whether you draw a Glock or a colt to defend yourself is generally not a legal problem (unless you're the aggressor in said road rage incident).
Just my opinion, but I think that the time required getting a long gun out of the trunk and deploying it would put you into an offensive not defensive mode (in most cases). The time spent getting out of your car, walking back to the trunk, opening your trunk then deploying the firearm would be better spent grabbing your pistol or just leaving the scene as quickly as possible.
Might be bad Ju Ju for you in a court of law if you pull a rifle/shotgun out of your trunk in a road rage incident rather than pulling your pistol and popping smoke ASAP. I don't know.
What kind of scenario do you expect while traveling in your car that would require a long gun?
Our parking lot is small and has enough activity by employees that I'm not worried about someone getting into the trunk. When I get home it comes out of the trunk. As far as when might it be used, after incidents like Ferguson, I envisioned an intersection or road being blocked and people going car to car knocking out windows and pulling people out. I'm not waiting for pistol range to come into play!
Our parking lot is small and has enough activity by employees that I'm not worried about someone getting into the trunk. When I get home it comes out of the trunk. As far as when might it be used, after incidents like Ferguson, I envisioned an intersection or road being blocked and people going car to car knocking out windows and pulling people out. I'm not waiting for pistol range to come into play!
Are you suggesting that if an angry mob were approaching your vehicle, that you'd stop, get into your trunk to grab a long gun, and start shooting them from a distance?
I truly believe that would create some criminal/legal issues for you, regardless of where you lived.
I'm not waiting for pistol range to come into play!
So, you're going pull over, run back to your trunk, grab your rifle, and start dropping "tangos" at distance with said carbine?
So, you're going pull over, run back to your trunk, grab your rifle, and start dropping "tangos" at distance with said carbine?
The only way I can see that even remotely being a "good shoot", is if someone took your vehicle under fire from long range, disabled your it, and you returned fire. Other than that, I think one would be hooked, booked and tooked to jail. And then the prison lovin' would start.
If you can leave a situation in a vehicle, no judge or jury is going to support the idea of shooting at an angry mob unless they are upon you, and starting to attack you. You are either in fear of grievous bodily injury or death, or you're not.
When I see some nice Tavor's or AUG's at my LGS I think one of those would be nice for vehicle borne action. Small, compact, easy to hide and full power cartridge. But my world and neighborhood hasn't degenerated to that point yet so I guess I'm not ready.
When I see some nice Tavor's or AUG's at my LGS I think one of those would be nice for vehicle borne action. Small, compact, easy to hide and full power cartridge. But my world and neighborhood hasn't degenerated to that point yet so I guess I'm not ready.
Tavors look sweet. People complain about the trigger, but that's easily changed.
walker2713
12-20-14, 12:56
Only on lengthy road trips to visit grown kids....
Then it's on the back seat in canvas zip case, with mag inserted but empty chamber.
You just never know.....
Only on lengthy road trips to visit grown kids....
Then it's on the back seat in canvas zip case, with mag inserted but empty chamber.
You just never know.....
Where do you live? Do you cross state lines on such a trip?
No long gun left in my truck.
Would I like to keep one there?
You bet, but I'm not willing to have it stolen or face a jury for shooting bad guys at a distance, even if they're bad guys.
Bad guys, if they live, love to sue too.
My Glock 19 and fully loaded spare magazine will have to suffice...oh, and a very sharp knife.
HardToHandle
12-20-14, 14:12
Yes.
Hurricane Katrina.
What I saw convinced me that serious folks include that as an option.
Nothing wrong with evaluating numerous scenarios and making decisions, including risk of theft.
Are you suggesting that if an angry mob were approaching your vehicle, that you'd stop, get into your trunk to grab a long gun, and start shooting them from a distance?
I truly believe that would create some criminal/legal issues for you, regardless of where you lived.
Nope, I'd get the car out of there as fast as I could but I learned a long time ago working in maximum security prisons, when it's me or them---- it sure isn't going to be me on the short end of the stick! If people are being pulled out of cars and beaten seriously, I'm justified legally in stopping them.
OP here.
I keep a stainless Mini-14 w/ folding stock and a couple of 20 round magazines. In most urban self-defense situations, the carry pistol will (or won't) get it done.
But suppose I'm fixing a flat tire on a two lane road; a car pulls up about 90 feet back. Two guys get out carrying Glocks. In this situation, a long gun is definitely a better deterrent than a small 9mm.
A shotgun would be an alternative, too. I like the Mini because it won't rust, will always go bang, and if it gets stolen, I'm not out a lot of money.
walker2713
12-20-14, 15:28
Where do you live? Do you cross state lines on such a trip?
I live in Louisiana...travel to Kentucky and New Mexico to visit kids, as well as occasional hunting trips.
To the idiots who only envision trunks. I drive a hard top jeep. I don't have to get out of shit to get to my rifle. If you think I'm paranoid for carrying a rifle I think you should reasses why you carry a pistol or a knife. It's just another tool I'd rather have and not need than the other way around.
You don't think a ferguson type riot might spontaneously occur?
You intiutively know you won't get caught in middle?
You will have no idiots in your path between work and family at home?
What if you have to hoof it home do you want a g19 or a carbine with 3 mags and ifak and the like?
Obviously none of you have security concerns with regards to what you do for a living. In my industry people getting jumped by multiple assailants has and will continue to happen.
Chris
Who carries handguns regularly, and also keeps a rifle or shotgun in the car?
If so, what is it?Nope. Weapons left unattended in cars have a higher probability of being stolen than if they are home locked in the safe.
If I was going to throw a rifle in the trunk for no good reason it would be my M38 Mosin carbine. It can put down anything in the lower 48, doubles as a club / fishing pole / hammer / fence post, and is unlikely to be used in a drive by if it got stolen.
YMMV.
To the idiots who only envision trunks. I drive a hard top jeep. I don't have to get out of shit to get to my rifle. If you think I'm paranoid for carrying a rifle I think you should reasses why you carry a pistol or a knife. It's just another tool I'd rather have and not need than the other way around.
You don't think a ferguson type riot might spontaneously occur?
You intiutively know you won't get caught in middle?
You will have no idiots in your path between work and family at home?
What if you have to hoof it home do you want a g19 or a carbine with 3 mags and ifak and the like?
Obviously none of you have security concerns with regards to what you do for a living. In my industry people getting jumped by multiple assailants has and will continue to happen.
Chris
I don't think you are paranoid, just well prepared. My office is 65 yds. to the car or truck and our armory with mini-14/M4 carbines, Glocks, S&W revolvers and shotguns is another 150 yds. beyond that. Believe me, there have been some hairy situations at work where people were escorted off the property while threatening us. It just pays to plan for the unexpected. FBI bulletins have warned law enforcement and military in uniform to be even more observant of their surroundings when entering work related buildings. I'm big on preventative maintenance issues so yes, I carry a get back home bag every day to work and any time I leave home. Oh my god, maybe I am paranoid!
Nope. Weapons left unattended in cars have a higher probability of being stolen than if they are home locked in the safe.
If I was going to throw a rifle in the trunk for no good reason it would be my M38 Mosin carbine. It can put down anything in the lower 48, doubles as a club / fishing pole / hammer / fence post, and is unlikely to be used in a drive by if it got stolen.
YMMV.
Also as a spear. For when you need to fight in a phalanx.
I've EDC'ed long guns in vehicles and see a value for them in preps. However, I think many have an unrealistic or even fantastical view of their use in some of the scenarios here.
Much more likely: "Bloomington Police Say 25 Arrested in MOA Protest", http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3656215.shtml?cat=1
No. Not usually. The chances of having use for one on a day-to-day basis seem exceptionally remote, to me, in my situation.
When traveling overnight or for extended distances, etc, including long interstate travels to visit far away family, I bring a long gun. Typically it is kept 'cruiser ready' in the car. But I bring it so that I have one of my long guns at the destination as much as I bring it for the trip itself. Then again you never know when you won't be able to make it to your destination, etc. Plus it's easier to secure, for me, when traveling, because I don't have to leave it in an unattended vehicle.
I need to pony up for a fancy way to lock a basic carbine up in the car. I could see oiling up my KISS backup AR and keeping it in there if it was secured, out of the way, and not visible.
When I'm going to the range or something along those lines and I bring a suppressed SBR, cruiser ready, on the passenger floorboard, there is something comforting about it, I'll admit. Even though I can barely imagine a scenario where I would use it.
What if you have to hoof it home do you want a g19 or a carbine with 3 mags and ifak and the like?
Chris
This is one of the biggest reasons I EDC a 6920 in the truck. I keep it with a loaded mag, empty chamber, on safe. If my vehicle is disabled I'd feel a lot better with a rifle and 5 or 6 loaded mags with my G19 as a backup. I also feel a rifle is MUCH more intimidating and could possibly deter folks from making me shoot them.
I also like it for traveling. I don't ever want to be under gunned.
I have noticed a lot of my friends/family waking up after Ferguson and wanting to EDC a rifle as well. It costs me nothing to keep in my truck, but could save my life.
I rarely do. Usually for long trips, where I could be stranded for some time. I also threw a long gun in the truck recently when traveling to a major city during the protests.
I've EDC'ed long guns in vehicles and see a value for them in preps. However, I think many have an unrealistic or even fantastical view of their use in some of the scenarios here.
Much more likely: "Bloomington Police Say 25 Arrested in MOA Protest", http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3656215.shtml?cat=1
I can name three traveling salesmen in my industry that i know personally who have been robbed at gunpoint by multiple assailants in the last 2 years.
I've EDC'ed long guns in vehicles and see a value for them in preps. However, I think many have an unrealistic or even fantastical view of their use in some of the scenarios here.
Much more likely: "Bloomington Police Say 25 Arrested in MOA Protest", http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3656215.shtml?cat=1
also I much rather have my office look like the tattoo shop in ferguson with the armed guys outside than the burned out QT
You don't think a ferguson type riot might spontaneously occur?
No. No I don't. There was nothing spontaneous about any of that. It was all easily predictable to anyone that paid the slightest bit of attention to the news.
I would if I had a descret way to carry it to and from my car. I don't have a garage and I live in an apartment complex. The fewer people that know I have guns the better.
vicious_cb
12-22-14, 09:09
Lets put it this way, if you find yourself in the need of a firearm immediately the trunk might as well be miles away. Hell the car would be my primary with the pistol as secondary.
To the idiots who only envision trunks. I drive a hard top jeep. I don't have to get out of shit to get to my rifle. If you think I'm paranoid for carrying a rifle I think you should reasses why you carry a pistol or a knife. It's just another tool I'd rather have and not need than the other way around.
You don't think a ferguson type riot might spontaneously occur?
You intiutively know you won't get caught in middle?
You will have no idiots in your path between work and family at home?
What if you have to hoof it home do you want a g19 or a carbine with 3 mags and ifak and the like?
Obviously none of you have security concerns with regards to what you do for a living. In my industry people getting jumped by multiple assailants has and will continue to happen.
Chris
Might as well paint a target on your back with the words, "kill me first."
I've EDC'ed long guns in vehicles and see a value for them in preps. However, I think many have an unrealistic or even fantastical view of their use in some of the scenarios here.
Much more likely: "Bloomington Police Say 25 Arrested in MOA Protest", http://kstp.com/news/stories/S3656215.shtml?cat=1
They probably saw the movie "The Road".:rolleyes:
I usually don't. I look at it this way. If a situation happens and I need to deploy my weapon immediately it is going to be my hand gun. If I have need of a long gun and am going to have the time to get to my trunk or in my case behind my seat in the back of my truck, then I'm more than likely going to have enough time to get out of the area without having to deploy a weapon at all. If there is a Ferguson type situation going on I'm staying out of the area period.
To the idiots who only envision trunks. I drive a hard top jeep. I don't have to get out of shit to get to my rifle. If you think I'm paranoid for carrying a rifle I think you should reasses why you carry a pistol or a knife. It's just another tool I'd rather have and not need than the other way around.
You don't think a ferguson type riot might spontaneously occur?
You intiutively know you won't get caught in middle?
You will have no idiots in your path between work and family at home?
What if you have to hoof it home do you want a g19 or a carbine with 3 mags and ifak and the like?
Obviously none of you have security concerns with regards to what you do for a living. In my industry people getting jumped by multiple assailants has and will continue to happen.
Chris
I was responding to someone who SPECIFICALLY mentioned storing their rifle in a trunk and who envisioned shooting at protesters/mob/rioters/etc. "before they get into pistol range."
Think you can have a disagreement with someone without resorting to name calling? Yes?
You seem to be less concerned with actually having a discussion and more concerned with coming up with straw man scenarios and then cutting them down.
It depends on where you live. If you live in BFE MT,ND,WY,AK etc.. it can certainly make sense to have a rifle in the car. For 99.9% of people it's not a good idea...I think it could potentially create more problems then solve. I think if you are going to keep one in your vehicle it should be in one of those truck vault type things which are theft resistant.
Pariah Carey
12-22-14, 11:02
I agree that it's just not practical for civilians. I've tried to envision situations where I have to get home (30 miles) after an earthquake or widespread power outage. Maybe I need to get my wife on the other side of town. While having a rifle/shotgun on the seat next to me would be comforting I don't think it would be of any use. Even after a major disaster it's going to be a little while before things get social. Not going to happen right away, and by the time people start reverting to savagery I should be home. And if you're forced to travel on foot in that situation, I think a long gun becomes a liability.
Now I do make an exception for road trips and camping trips. I think it's good to have a long gun with you then.
MountainRaven
12-22-14, 11:47
Nope. Weapons left unattended in cars have a higher probability of being stolen than if they are home locked in the safe.
If I was going to throw a rifle in the trunk for no good reason it would be my M38 Mosin carbine. It can put down anything in the lower 48, doubles as a club / fishing pole / hammer / fence post, and is unlikely to be used in a drive by if it got stolen.
YMMV.
This is why I used to have a Chinese Type 53 in my car.
If I need a long gun, I have a long gun. But if someone breaks into my car, they might reassess committing a Federal felony stealing a bolt action rifle in a stock that looks like it lost a fight to a bunch of hardcore beaver gangbangers and will net them maybe $30 at the pawnshop.
And my Type 53 has the folding spike bayonet, so it doubles as a spear!
To the idiots who only envision trunks. I drive a hard top jeep. I don't have to get out of shit to get to my rifle. If you think I'm paranoid for carrying a rifle I think you should reasses why you carry a pistol or a knife. It's just another tool I'd rather have and not need than the other way around.
A pistol can't be stolen out of my trunk when it's on my hip, is immediately accessible, poses no problems presenting inside a vehicle, and (in the hands of a skilled person) is more than adequate to meet the typical, already extremely rare, threats encountered in the United States. I carry a knife as a tool, not a weapon. I've never used my pistol in anger, but I use my knife daily, and it never involves lacerating people.
You don't think a ferguson type riot might spontaneously occur?
Nope.
You intiutively know you won't get caught in middle?
I don't "know" anything, but as a risk-assessment professional, I look at odds. Odds are... low, to say the least.
You will have no idiots in your path between work and family at home?
Pistol
What if you have to hoof it home do you want a g19 or a carbine with 3 mags and ifak and the like?
If I'm trying to get home on foot through some unexpected disaster, I wouldn't draw attention to myself with a ****ing black rifle. Even if I had one, it's staying in my vehicle while I walk low-pro. And that would be lame.
Obviously none of you have security concerns with regards to what you do for a living. In my industry people getting jumped by multiple assailants has and will continue to happen.
What industry?
Chris
If you happen to have some special circumstances that somehow make you more likely to need a long arm or heavier firepower than a pistol can provide, then more power to you. If not, keeping a rifle in the car is either paranoia, or childish. In my opinion.
friendlyfireisnt
12-22-14, 12:30
I generally do not keep a long gun in the car.
I do carry regularly, and I do keep a 1911 with several spare mags loaded with it (all locked up nice and secure, and secured to my vehicle). The 1911 is for when I am going to and from work, where I can't legally carry.
Spontaneous riots are never really spontaneous. Generally speaking, those who get caught up in them, either were not paying attention or decided to risk it anyways.
Some natural disasters are spontaneous, but if you notice the violence, if it occurs, usually occurs in the days/weeks following an event, rather than in the immediate aftermath.
Additionally, getting to a properly secured long arm in a car is going to take time, so if there was some theoretical spontaneous event that involved violence, odds are you wouldn't be able to get to the firearms quick enough.
However, when I travel for vacation, I do keep a carbine with me. A situation could develop over the course of time while I am traveling to where it would be prudent to have.
30559
This is what I am working towards.
I have played with keeping a rifle in my car. I even carried a SCAR in a tennis bag just to see what that entailed. At the end, I found both practices absolutely useless for my daily life.
If you happen to have some special circumstances that somehow make you more likely to need a long arm or heavier firepower than a pistol can provide, then more power to you. If not, keeping a rifle in the car is either paranoia, or childish. In my opinion.
Why not pocket carry a browning .25acp? You understand there are better tools for the job than that, correct? You likely carry a service grade pistol in an appropriate caliber. And as a member here I would assume you know all pistol calibers suck. So why not have a better mousetrap?
I find it extremely odd anyone who carries a gun calling anyone else who carries a gun, paranoid. But then what the **** do I know, I'm not a "risk assessment professional".
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/12/dean-weingarten/st-louis-driver-bumps-protestors-pull-gun-when-car-is-attacked/
This guy looks like he could be a member here, Glock, TLR2, finger off the trigger, phone in the other hand, a competent guy.30560
Do you think he might have looked out at that MOB and thought "a rifle sure would be handy right about now."?
To your last question before calling me a either paranoid or a child, High end jewelry, including loose diamonds and precious gemstones.
Lets put it this way, if you find yourself in the need of a firearm immediately the trunk might as well be miles away. Hell the car would be my primary with the pistol as secondary.
Crap I had never thought of that!
Might as well paint a target on your back with the words, "kill me first."
yeah, F' you too buddy.
They probably saw the movie "The Road".:roll eyes:
Never seen it,but I love being pigeonholed on the internet.
see above
If you happen to have some special circumstances that somehow make you more likely to need a long arm or heavier firepower than a pistol can provide, then more power to you. If not, keeping a rifle in the car is either paranoia, or childish. In my opinion.
Quite a few people would tell you the same thing about carrying a pistol.
I think their baseless personal insults wherein they deride those who choose differently from themselves are about as useful as yours.
Egad.
It took only seven pages for a serious discussion about handguns and long-guns to devolve into calumny.
I still think my scenario is the most valid: not insurrection, not disaster, but breaking down in a remote area and finding oneself beset by several armed thugs. In that event, a long-gun is most helpful to intimidate them into leaving, or, if necessary, to deal with the problem.
MountainRaven
12-22-14, 16:54
I still think my scenario is the most valid: not insurrection, not disaster, but breaking down in a remote area and finding oneself beset by several armed thugs. In that event, a long-gun is most helpful to intimidate them into leaving, or, if necessary, to deal with the problem.
I tend to agree.
But I would add that they are nice to have around for plunking coyotes and other varmints when you're bumming around the hills and hinterlands.
Too many auto burglaries in Seattle for it to be a good idea.
Okie John
I still think my scenario is the most valid: not insurrection, not disaster, but breaking down in a remote area and finding oneself beset by several armed thugs. In that event, a long-gun is most helpful to intimidate them into leaving, or, if necessary, to deal with the problem.
Run flat tires and appropriate vehicle maintenance answer most of my travel needs. If I do go somewhere truly remote, then yes, I take a long firearm.
Enough of the nonsense. Back on track on please.
Enough of the nonsense. Back on track on please.
So, guys and gals, if you carry an additional long-gun, what is it?
MountainRaven
12-22-14, 22:26
So, guys and gals, if you carry an additional long-gun, what is it?
Type 53 (Chinese M44 Mosin Nagant clone) if I'm leaving it in the car.
Folding stock AK or Tavor if I'm taking it with me.
So, guys and gals, if you carry an additional long-gun, what is it?
Rem 870 most of the time, and occasionally SCARs, 16 or 17 depending on perceived need and terrain. However, my recent SIG brace build of a 9" 300 blk may become a choice now.
A Colt 14.5" carbine in a Sneaky Bags w/4 mags, IFAK, PVS-14, suppressor and GPS Rino. how many of us have been in a scary situation and thought if I make it out I will make sure I will be better prepared? I was on an operational mission in a large CONUS city during the 9/11 attacks and I remember thinking what if I didn't have my shit with me? Who knew what the next day or the day after would bring us? That being said, definitely when traveling out of my local area. Not usually day to day.
Rem 870 most of the time, and occasionally SCARs, 16 or 17 depending on perceived need and terrain. However, my recent SIG brace build of a 9" 300 blk may become a choice now.
I really like the idea of a pistol 300 BLK w/Sig brace. I might experiment with that one
During my work week when I'm commuting to and back from work I've got my duty 6920 under the rear passenger seat along with a plate carrier. On the plate carrier I've got 4 rifle mags, 2 pistol mags and med kit. Once I'm home the truck is secured in the garage.
On my days off all that goes in the house.
I entertained the idea of keeping the city issued Bushmaster in the truck, but nah.
brickboy240
12-23-14, 14:11
I keep my ratty Chinese SKS and an even rattier looking Marlin Model 60 22 under my truck's rear seat. Plenty of ammo for both.
Both of these are mostly for unexpected varmints and small game than defense but the SKS could do in a pinch.
Still...these guns mostly see squirrels and pigs! LOL
So, guys and gals, if you carry an additional long-gun, what is it?
Currently either a 6920 a suppressed 5.56 SBR. But that is only when I do. The vast majority of the time the long guns stay at home.
Currently either a 6920 a suppressed 5.56 SBR. But that is only when I do. The vast majority of the time the long guns stay at home.
You of all people should know your rifle does you no good at home :)
Each of my cars gets a backup pistol near the driver, and a rifle in the trunk. Plus whatever my wife and I are carrying.
You of all people should know your rifle does you no good at home :)
Each of my cars gets a backup pistol near the driver, and a rifle in the trunk. Plus whatever my wife and I are carrying.
It does me very little good in the car as well. ;)
Another handgun and some mags or maybe armour would seem to be more useful. Not that it's necessarily either/or, but if I was going to add something to the car that's where I would start. The reason yo have previously given for having a rifle and/or armour in the car is really one of the few scenarios I can think of where I would want, and be able to deploy, a rifle.
I too usually only pack a rifle when I'm going out of town for more than a couple days. As much because I like to be able to spontaneously go shooting as for any kind of defensive or 2A purposes.
I keep a DDm4v7lw in the car for long drives, but other than that I just keep a pistol with me.
I bring my 7.5 Noveske pistol equipped with a Sig brace and a LAW tactical folding stock loaded and leaning on the middle seat of my truck. Its small enough when folded I can place it in my backpack with a small chest rig, IFAK and a few extra pistol mags along with some other essentials which is kind of a get home bag. I really like it because I don't ever have to leave it in my car. Also I live close to a large community college so people don't think twice when they see someone my age with a backpack in the store. It's not really necessary around town as I always carry a
G19 with a spare 21 round mag but since I can put it in the backpack and take it anywhere, I do once in a while. It's no hassle to me and beyond comforting to know if I really need something more than a pistol I can have a little PDW style AR easily accessible. For Long trips I usually take my BCM middy aand all the same stuff I tote around with my AR pistol. Probably not necessary but its comforting and I do because welll... I can do whatever I want
I work in Corrections and can't bring a trunked gun with me to work, its against regulations. If I changed jobs I would carry my (externally beat-up) Yugo Mauser with 40 rounds in stripper clips in my trunk. Scenarios where I would need it would be really remote possibilities, but then again, needing a handgun is fairly remote too.
MorphCross
01-03-15, 22:02
Had kept my carbine in trunk. Just bought an arx with folding stock to replace it in that role.
Man after my own heart, ARX broken down and in a black messenger bag with some spare mags.
Back when I was in free territory, I always had my DDM4 in the trunk with a couple mags of PDX1 whenever I was out. Now that I'm back in CA, that stays at home :(
I think a full size AR in the trunk is a bad way to go for multiple reasons. Mainly the fact that you have to get to the trunk to access the rifle, if its a bad situation, you probably won't be able to get to the trunk. I would go with a set up like this. It's the Sig MPX in the deployment bag. You can keep the bag close to you, even walking out and about and no one will even know you have a bunch of fire power and 4 30 round magazines. If you have a CCW Permit, get the pistol version with the folding Sig brace and you'r just concealing a pistol technichaly. I've had the pleasure of shooting an MPX with a red dot. It can easily reach out to 100 yards. I was ringing steel at 75 yards with no issue.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j143/rohardi/BAG-MPX-DEPLOY-BLK1_zps8ab5ae4c.jpg (http://s79.photobucket.com/user/rohardi/media/BAG-MPX-DEPLOY-BLK1_zps8ab5ae4c.jpg.html)
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Here's a video of a SBR Sig 556 Russian in a similar deployment bag. Personally, I would go with the MPX loaded with a bunch of Federal HST 147s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0vrcZMO0W4
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