Pre-Crime?

[Business_Casual]

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2015/January/Feds-Foil-ISIS-Inspired-Attack-on-US-Capitol/

What exactly is the crime here, anyone?

[skydivr]

"Conspiracy to Commit"....

[J-Dub]

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2015/January/Feds-Foil-ISIS-Inspired-Attack-on-US-Capitol/

What exactly is the crime here, anyone?

So do you think it should be illegal to hire a hitman? Or does it become illegal when the hitman does his job?

If this person was planning a jihadist type attack, why shouldn't he be arrested if they can show probable cause that he was in fact planning such an incident?

[Averageman]

"Hey, Eric; Can you dig me up a maybe a half baked looking jihad white guy? "I really don't feel like going to Paris, I still have jet lag from Hawaii."

"Not a problem Boss, it will be in the same envelope as the pardon you'll be signing for me."

[jpmuscle]

The timing is conspicuous. Sounds more like they had a open case and decided to drop the hammer. The fact that it involves congress is a bonus, especially with the FISA renewal coming up this year IIRC. That any the latest Intel report that came out said affirmatively that there is zero alternative to disrupting terrorist plots other than via the mass collection of all signal intelligence. Soooo Yea...

[Moose-Knuckle]

Christopher Lee Cornell was arrested Wednesday after buying two M-15 assault rifles and 600 rounds of ammunition from the Point Blank Indoor Shooting Range and Gun Shop in Ohio.

My God not the dreaded M-15 assault rifle!!! :eek:

[TAZ]

"Conspiracy to Commit"....

Doesn't conspiracy require more than 2 person?

If like to see facts related to the arrest. Till then it's hard to decide if it was pre crime or justified arrest. We don't have to wait for the criminal to start shooting at us before we can legally shoot him, so why should we wait till a terrorist starts mowing people down before we arrest him?

[26 Inf]

Doesn't conspiracy require more than 2 person?

If like to see facts related to the arrest. Till then it's hard to decide if it was pre crime or justified arrest. We don't have to wait for the criminal to start shooting at us before we can legally shoot him, so why should we wait till a terrorist starts mowing people down before we arrest him?


The Feds arrested him:

USC18§1117. Conspiracy to murder

If two or more persons conspire to violate section 1111, 1114, 1116, or 1119 of this title, and one or more of such persons do any overt act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be punished by imprisonment for any term of years or for life.

(Added Pub. L. 92–539, title I, §101, Oct. 24, 1972, 86 Stat. 1071; amended Pub. L. 103–322, title VI, §60009(b)(1), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 1972.)

Amendments

1994—Pub. L. 103–322 substituted “1116, or 1119” for “or 1116”.

USC18§372. Conspiracy to impede or injure officer

If two or more persons in any State, Territory, Possession, or District conspire to prevent, by force, intimidation, or threat, any person from accepting or holding any office, trust, or place of confidence under the United States, or from discharging any duties thereof, or to induce by like means any officer of the United States to leave the place, where his duties as an officer are required to be performed, or to injure him in his person or property on account of his lawful discharge of the duties of his office, or while engaged in the lawful discharge thereof, or to injure his property so as to molest, interrupt, hinder, or impede him in the discharge of his official duties, each of such persons shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 701; Pub. L. 107–273, div. B, title IV, §4002(d)(1)(D), Nov. 2, 2002, 116 Stat. 1809.)


USC18§351. Congressional, Cabinet, and Supreme Court assassination, kidnapping, and assault; penalties

(a) Whoever kills any individual who is a Member of Congress or a Member-of-Congress-elect, a member of the executive branch of the Government who is the head, or a person nominated to be head during the pendency of such nomination, of a department listed in section 101 of title 5 or the second ranking official in such department, the Director (or a person nominated to be Director during the pendency of such nomination) or Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence, the Director (or a person nominated to be Director during the pendency of such nomination) or Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, a major Presidential or Vice Presidential candidate (as defined in section 3056 of this title), or a Justice of the United States, as defined in section 451 of title 28, or a person nominated to be a Justice of the United States, during the pendency of such nomination, shall be punished as provided by sections 1111 and 1112 of this title.

(b) Whoever kidnaps any individual designated in subsection (a) of this section shall be punished (1) by imprisonment for any term of years or for life, or (2) by death or imprisonment for any term of years or for life, if death results to such individual.

(c) Whoever attempts to kill or kidnap any individual designated in subsection (a) of this section shall be punished by imprisonment for any term of years or for life.

(d) If two or more persons conspire to kill or kidnap any individual designated in subsection (a) of this section and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be punished (1) by imprisonment for any term of years or for life, or (2) by death or imprisonment for any term of years or for life, if death results to such individual.


Based on what he said and posted, his research, plus purchasing the weapons, ammunition and materials, they apparently thought he had made enough overt acts to charge.

[Business_Casual]

Process crimes are so handy for keeping us safe!

[skydivr]

Of course, the feds may have some help...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_(film)