View Full Version : SHOT Show 2014 Pictures (From SMGLee)
I checked out the Colt booth but did not find anything new to take pictures of......then I saw the Colt Canada section.
This is a technology demonstrator. this platform consist of the weapon with its associated electronics, remote command unit, and communication to various battle asset.
SWORD(Sniper Weapon Observer Recon device), Smal Arms Fire Control System utilized a patented Small arms network power data system to control the battel field intel and operation. for example, a Sniper in the field, the command can identify the high value target, confirm the target identity and assign the shooter a shoot or no shoot command. command can also assign various targets for infantry to engage via direct rifle fire or unseen target via rifle mounted grenade. This system gives a real tiem hand off from the observer to the shooter.
* all components on the system are only for technology demo purpose, it is not the actual end product.
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EAGLE grenade launcher
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Eletronic contact points, this system is also can be conrol by bluetooth through your personal communicator device.
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Contact point underneath the stock.
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Unseen targets can be send to operator via command and control(intel possibly gather by drone over the battle field) and the observor can remotely designated the target location and the location can be viewed via the smart phone/digital screen on the weapon. the operator just have to follow the guide in the screen and elevate the weapon to a pre designated angle and let off the grenade to hit the unseen target.
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Plate carrier mounted battery module can be access via a power cable attached to the single point sling.
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One of the various capacity battery module
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Information can be transmitted via operator's personal communicator.
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Data cable and power cable are embedded into the operator's vest.
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Observor drone control module
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Observer can control the battlefield intel via this tablet style module. he can use this to locate his operators location, he can access various battlefield intel to form a battlefield overview to direct infantry fire, and also call in fire support.
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Oh... they --are-- actual tourniquets.... I can see the webbing now... and apparently Raven has made a holder for them?
So it looks like tourniquet in little nylon holder, then a larger carrier that also holds scissors on side and then a mount that the holder mounts on along with BOK.
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Saker in 5.56 and 7.62 with the patented Trifecta MAAD rachet mount.
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Trifecta MAAD mount utilizing the proven PWS Triad flashhider design.
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Saker with an optional flash hider end cap
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Optional end caps
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Harvester thread on suppressor in 5.56 and 7.62 with a build in muzzle brake
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The rear end cap removed with the tool included.
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Nelson device piston can also double as a take down tool.
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300 blackout HK 53 with Saker Suppressor.
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any details on the m7a1 uppers and the suppressors? i would really be interested in a legal length .300blk with perm attached flash hider (i don't want a sbr for various reasons).
Very nice rifles and pieces...
What booth were they giving away the bags in the last pic and is it to late?
LOL.
There's some exciting stuff coming out. After every SHOT, I can hear my credit card begging for mercy.
It's weird, but good, to see piston AR makers getting into the DI game. Even LWRC is making complete DI guns, who'd have thunk it?
Bourneshooter
01-29-14, 20:50
Raven Concealment made one for Steve Fisher, so I imagine that if/when this comes on the market they will be making them available in some fashion - even just custom.
Lots of folks overlooked the new keymod handstop that PWS is releasing. They had some proof of concepts at the show and are still refining the design. I was fortunate to go home with one and love the design.
LibertyNeverDies
01-29-14, 20:59
Raven Concealment made one for Steve Fisher, so I imagine that if/when this comes on the market they will be making them available in some fashion - even just custom.
Thanks your info prompted me to lookup a pic of the holster and I found this (http://www.recoilweb.com/the-6-second-optic-mount-37339.html) for all who are interested.
Bill also wore one of the holsters during SHOT and it is on video somewhere.
KAC has been busy. Good stuff
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What's that new brake? Looks...interesting.
If only they were available...
Talked to a bunch of dealers to no avail. I'm not sure I've ever tried to hard to spend money :sad:
Very nice, thanks for sharing.
Bill also wore one of the holsters during SHOT and it is on video somewhere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuO8qV93KEU 4:19 is where he starts in on the Glock set up.
V/r
Uglyguns
Nice to see the lower cost Troy BUIS, the smaller size, the new reticles, and features and lower cost make them very attractive.
HeadHunter
01-31-14, 22:49
Lasers continue making inroads into the firearms market. I think for smaller handguns they are especially valuable, as the iron sights are frequently abysmal. And prices are really dropping, in some cases about even with the cost of a good holster.
However, please do not use a laser sight mounted on a handgun as a pointer during a presentation as the NY State Director of Homeland Security did.
http://exm.nr/1fj55cu
Ive spoken with a couple of dealers that have 7.62 CQB cans in form 3 process between kac and them. In other words waiting for ATF approval to ship. I spoke with one dealer that is in the same spot with the full size 7.62 QDC. However, I'm not aware of any 556 kac Suppressors in the form 3 process but I'm not looking for em so they maybe in route.
That said, I suspect most if not all of the kac QDC Suppressors in the form 3 process are already spoken for. I know I ordered mine a while ago.
Ive spoken with a couple of dealers that have 7.62 CQB cans in form 3 process between kac and them. In other words waiting for ATF approval to ship. I spoke with one dealer that is in the same spot with the full size 7.62 QDC. However, I'm not aware of any 556 kac Suppressors in the form 3 process but I'm not looking for em so they maybe in route.
That said, I suspect most if not all of the kac QDC Suppressors in the form 3 process are already spoken for. I know I ordered mine a while ago.
How long are these taking on form 3's? My local dealer can get them (form 3) approved by eform in a few weeks.
They seem to be about 3 months without efile. The local dealer has tried efile but apparently hasn't been able to do it. I'm getting ready to go in and walk him thru the process.
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I guess none of their dealers are using eforms, because these seem to have been in process for a while now.
I guess none of their dealers are using eforms, because these seem to have been in process for a while now.
Silencershop has done a few of mine in under 4 weeks with no e file. Not sure if there's much rhyme or reason.
ElJefeDeJefes
02-02-14, 22:59
Silencershop has done a few of mine in under 4 weeks with no e file. Not sure if there's much rhyme or reason.
There usually isn't when it come to the ATF......
Over the years i have seen MI grow and expand, they have made leaps in their designs in details, and up the ante in quality in machining. definitely one of the best value in the industry.
The word from Crye is production might be ready by the end of 2014.
Here is a short clip of the Crye Precision SIX12 double action operation...VIDEO (http://youtu.be/FJEPxR3ZYyA)
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Crye Precision Shotgun???? that was the reaction I got from everyone that asked me what I thought was interesting at SHOT
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My first thought was the "cylinder gap gas" would be a bitch on the side of your face, but I think that's what the video was addressing.
But, in this configuration are you using the rotating cylinder as a cheek weld?
Maybe I am just not visualizing it correctly.
Wow am I the only one who is questioning the practicality of this new shot gun. I am not a fan of any under barrel shoty. I bet that thing makes your weapon so unwieldy. Does anyone remember the xm26 and what a disaster that was (not to say this will be like the xm26). I think they are creating a solution for a problem that is a minor issue at best.
With proper TNG, TTP's and SOP's there is no problem running a secondary breaching shotgun. We always ran TL's as breachers as we did not want the TL being number one through the door anyway. Ill keep my nimble breaching 870 and crye can keep this. Does anyone know how much it weighs in both configs? ballistic breaching really not an issue in T1 units as every shooter is equally capable of breaching and going through the door first (unless the shooter is equipped with a open bolt or sniper weapon). So I wonder who was the driving force behind the development of this weapon.
Agreed on points above.
I'm not from Regiment, but even the handful of times I've ballistic breached, we had the shotgun on the TLs back and the breacher took it off and did his thing. Couldn't imagine running an underbarrel shotgun or a standalone of that size.
45/90 degree selector compatible lower! :D
Wow am I the only one who is questioning the practicality of this new shot gun. I am not a fan of any under barrel shoty. I bet that thing makes your weapon so unwieldy. Does anyone remember the xm26 and what a disaster that was (not to say this will be like the xm26). I think they are creating a solution for a problem that is a minor issue at best.
With proper TNG, TTP's and SOP's there is no problem running a secondary breaching shotgun. We always ran TL's as breachers as we did not want the TL being number one through the door anyway. Ill keep my nimble breaching 870 and crye can keep this. Does anyone know how much it weighs in both configs? ballistic breaching really not an issue in T1 units as every shooter is equally capable of breaching and going through the door first (unless the shooter is equipped with a open bolt or sniper weapon). So I wonder who was the driving force behind the development of this weapon.
Calab Crye drove the idea, but overall weigth was sufficantly lighter than the older XM26. how it would operate under condition would be beyond my civilian capability...
ballistic breaching really not an issue in T1 units as every shooter is equally capable of breaching and going through the door first (unless the shooter is equipped with a open bolt or sniper weapon). So I wonder who was the driving force behind the development of this weapon.
They seemed to have an eye on law enforcement market.
Tried looking for the shirt. Do you have a link? thanks
I second this my ebay foo is weak.
apparently Form 3s have made it thru to at least one dealer.
Full size 7.62 QDC
From TOS: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_381/240138_762_QDC_Suppressor.html&page=2
I'd go KAC every time if I could find a reliable supplier. They are hard to find.
apparently Form 3s have made it thru to at least one dealer.
Full size 7.62 QDC
From TOS: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_381/240138_762_QDC_Suppressor.html&page=2
Interesting that he mentioned Tom. Did he buy directly from KAC as a mil / LE customer?
jonconsiglio
02-04-14, 09:27
It's too bad you can't use the new 7.62 cans with 5.56 muzzle devices. I'd be willing to give that up if I currently had a 5.56 suppressor or if I was going to run it full time on my 300blk.
The more I look at it, the more I'm considering the 8.5" URX 4 for my 300blk.
The billet receivers look pretty nice!
SilentType
02-04-14, 20:54
When will the mini-IFAK, soft-t tourniquet holder, and the RCS belt clip combo be available? Really would like to get my hands on that set-up. Thanks.
On bulpup I see several similarities to bulpup version of Polish MSBS. Looks like our designers here in Poland are going right way.
Polish designers will make sure it lasts several lifetimes before they send it to the craftsmen at Radom to build it with a level of fit and finish equivalent to a fine hunting rifle.
I love the way the Polish gun builders think about their craftsmanship and consider everything they make part of an enduring legacy that will outlive them.
I think it must be genetic because Noveske is the Germanicised version of Novitsky(Polish surname) and John's legacy is evident in every rifle he built.
Back to Desert Tech: I have high hopes for the accuracy of a 308 version of their bullpup as the most compact top tier DMR ever brought to market.
There are so many options on the market that we don't want to be wedded to any single one, so we put on a simple, inexpensive, readily replaced option. The A2 grip is kinda like sights on a Glock.
Imagine it as a sign that says "grip goes here".
Wouldn't it be useful in a less lethal role?
Polish designers will make sure it lasts several lifetimes before they send it to the craftsmen at Radom to build it with a level of fit and finish equivalent to a fine hunting rifle.
It is rather result of MSBS being joint effort with Polish Military Technical Academy do design new military issue rifle. It takes significant less time to bring to market commercial grade products or prototypes of such, than go trough all that is needed for military adoption process for standard issue rifles (with all red tape involved). Especially when requirements for reliability and durability are legacy of Warsaw Pact standards. I expect MSBS bulpup to become anything more than videogame curio not earlier than 2017.
BTW As commercial grade products, I mean in-house designed products, that only designer/manufacturer defines requirements and features for them. It does not mean inferior products, only that commercial company makes it on their own will, risk and money as COTS product.
jrsteensen
02-05-14, 09:22
Wow am I the only one who is questioning the practicality of this new shot gun. I am not a fan of any under barrel shoty. I bet that thing makes your weapon so unwieldy. Does anyone remember the xm26 and what a disaster that was (not to say this will be like the xm26). I think they are creating a solution for a problem that is a minor issue at best.
With proper TNG, TTP's and SOP's there is no problem running a secondary breaching shotgun. We always ran TL's as breachers as we did not want the TL being number one through the door anyway. Ill keep my nimble breaching 870 and crye can keep this. Does anyone know how much it weighs in both configs? ballistic breaching really not an issue in T1 units as every shooter is equally capable of breaching and going through the door first (unless the shooter is equipped with a open bolt or sniper weapon). So I wonder who was the driving force behind the development of this weapon.
We ran us SAW gunners as the breachers. Was dumb dumb dumb. Already carrying 600rds of 5.56, SAW, M9, and pyro....oh lets give him the shotgun too.
[QUOTE=mtdawg169;1848805]Interesting that he mentioned Tom. Did he buy directly from KAC as a mil / LE customer?[/QUOT
I'm curious to this as well?
It's too bad you can't use the new 7.62 cans with 5.56 muzzle devices. I'd be willing to give that up if I currently had a 5.56 suppressor or if I was going to run it full time on my 300blk.
The more I look at it, the more I'm considering the 8.5" URX 4 for my 300blk.
I don't see why an easy CNC adaptor with appropriate tolerance couldn't be used to mount the 7.62 3/4" can mount to a 5.56 1/2" thread barrel, except that it could be louder, it wouldn't take long to program the operation, with a given that the muzzle threads and shoulder are true "enough".
Very cool. I'm a fan of that shotgun. I'd like here and see more on that puppy. Thanks!
wild_wild_wes
02-08-14, 12:51
This is around time, when HK came out with G28 in RAL8000. As a curio, RAL8000 is same colour that Rommel's Afrika Korps used back in WW2.
I think it looks like Dunklegelb RAL 7028, which was the standard Wehrmacht color from 1943 onwards. Very close to SOCOM Dark Earth, too. Very sensible, correct tactical colors.
Any word on the HK striker fire being announced? I read somewhere that it's supposed to be unveiled at the NRA show.
I was in the market for a nice sling and decided to reach out to the nice folks over at Savvy Sniper to do a custom sling and incorporate the ALG Defense FSS. Turned out rather nice...
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Any word on the HK striker fire being announced? I read somewhere that it's supposed to be unveiled at the NRA show.
This is as much as is known for a moment. Maybe HK will show/tell something at EnforceTac/IWA 2014 in March.
Nice, there will be FN lowers floating around to finally give my FNMI 20" barrel a home.
As a curio, RAL8000 is same colour that Rommel's Afrika Korps used back in WW2.
Between that and the Germans still using the Iron Cross on their Armor..... here we go again.... except this time they are on our side lol
Between that and the Germans still using the Iron Cross on their Armor..... here we go again.... except this time they are on our side lol
Germans are always on Germans side. It is only others to happen to be on their side or on the other side. We are their neighbours, we know them all to well. ... And we have Russians on the other side...
How 'bout any news on the P30sk? Or availability on the parts for that danged shortened LEM modification?
GUNZ, your right...confirmed with Phil
GUNZ, you're right...confirmed with Phil
That is the holster, raven made for me to use with that gun and mount, its fast its secure and i want it back....BILL....:)
the mount worked on my 34/17 i haven't tried it on a 19
The mini is about 4-6 weeks out from pre-order, the hardware to mount it is all available on the RCS sit under "Moduloaders"
http://raven-concealment-systems1.mybigcommerce.com/moduloader-system/
The TQ holders are a current product and can be purchased now from Eleven10 Gear:
http://http://www.1110gear.com/kydex-tq-holders/
The pictures with the mini and TQ along with shears.... The shears are just slid into the other elastic tube on the opposite side of the mini pouch, the other holds the chest dart.
Is the mount only secured into the dovetail like a rear sight would be or is there any other slide modifications necessary?
Is the mount only secured into the dovetail like a rear sight would be or is there any other slide modifications necessary?
There is a replacement backplate that accompanies the mount. If you are comfortable with the disassembly process to remove the backplate, that and drifting the old sights out, and the mount in is all there is to do. No machininig or milling involved.
Anyone have any info on that pencil barrel in the photos with the ALG defense rail?
That thing is...skinny...
Anyone have any info on that pencil barrel in the photos with the ALG defense rail?
That thing is...skinny...
Proprietary 14.5" LW Geissele barrel 1/8 twist in .223 wylde chamber with mid-length gas system. Not for sale but some lucky few have one :cool:
I figured that would be the response.
I will publicly voice my displeasure and over riding sense of jealousy. :P
Magic_Salad0892
02-20-14, 20:53
Sling location on the PDW is retarded.
jonconsiglio
02-20-14, 21:55
Sling location on the PDW is retarded.
Not really, when you consider the intended use of the rifle. One of the few ways you could keep it slung tight and concealed yet still shoulder t without letting out the sling.
I wonder if LWRCi can make DI fail too.
scoutfsu99
02-21-14, 09:34
Is it really that ****ing hard for you to resist clicking on and shitting in ever single LWRC thread on M4C?
Is it really that ****ing hard for you to resist clicking on and shitting in ever single LWRC thread on M4C?
I'm going to say yes, it is too difficult.
Does anyone in the know, know when the 6 second mount may be available for purchase?
This keymod rail may be my next purchase. Huge fan of this company.....with a minor grip; I wish they took their address and phone # off their stuff.
I dont understand the phone number and living only a few miles from their location, Norristown Pa doesnt give you a feeling of quality...the place is a dump
We've moved to North Wales.
Any word on if the Glock magwell will be available for Gen4s?
No ETA on the Glock mounts; we're still digging out of the move. No info on the Gen4 or if there are even plans for the Gen4.
No ETA on the Glock mounts; we're still digging out of the move. No info on the Gen4 or if there are even plans for the Gen4.
Make plans. Please, make plans!
phaseshift
02-26-14, 00:03
really want the 14.5" dimpled barrel SBR, even though they are going to be discontinuing the upper do you guys think distributers will get remaining stock?
really want the 14.5" dimpled barrel SBR, even though they are going to be discontinuing the upper do you guys think distributers will get remaining stock?
Yes. They will be sending out at least one more shipment of 14.5" uppers and complete 14.5" SBR carbines. I've got an upper reserved at my usual KAC place. In addition, I spoke with a LGS and he's got 3 complete carbines coming in but $2750 which is msrp.
I thought I saw it mentioned that there would be a run of 14.5" mod 2's later in the year? Or was this still TBD?
Unless you are referring to the mod 1's specifically then I see how this would be the last we see of them
I thought I saw it mentioned that there would be a run of 14.5" mod 2's later in the year? Or was this still TBD?
Unless you are referring to the mod 1's specifically then I see how this would be the last we see of them
I have been told by Operation Parts that 14.5" Mod 2's will be out later this year.
I wonder if they'll have dimpled barrels
I wonder if they'll have dimpled barrels
I have heard that they will not.
I have heard that they will not.
I was referring to the KAC carbines 14.5" with dimpled barrels (technically not mod 1) that will still be shipped this year. Correct, mod 2 (to the extent 14.5" are called mod2) will not have dimpled barrels. Don't know if those rifles will be out this year even if KAC plans to have them out. I suspect KAC will get the mod 2s (16") out but I'm not holding my breath on a non-dimpled 14.5" (nor am I interested in one).
If there is another run of dimple 14.5" barrels, I bet it would be their last.
I wonder why they would consider ceasing production of the dimpled barrels. Not worth the cost? Or is there technical reasons?
It's my understanding that it's cost and non commercial user feedback about cleaning and corrosion.
Can you post a link to a thread or article about the cleaning/corrosion? I'd be interested to find out more, but I don't want to keep taking this thread off topic
We mentioned it on another board. Government user groups have found that the dimpled barrels where tough to clean and in jungle type environments where having issues with rust.
We mentioned it on another board. Government user groups have found that the dimpled barrels where tough to clean and in jungle type environments where having issues with rust.
The dimples were collecting water from the humidity?
Anyword on when the Ambi charging handles will be out?
Anyword on when the Ambi charging handles will be out?
Out now -- depending on how many you want...
Out now -- depending on how many you want...
I only need one....anyone know who has then in stock?
Out now -- depending on how many you want...
Honestly, how does it compare with a raptor?
Honestly, how does it compare with a raptor?
What's a RAPTOR?
wilson1911
03-06-14, 16:55
That would be the Raptor Ambi charging handle.
Can you post a pic and where we can purchase them at ? Not seen any in the wild yet.
RXM,
Any progress report? are you getting settled in to your new digs ok? Any update on production of the 6 second sight?
They're working on the tooling now. Not sure how much longer till we see them but I wouldn't imagine they're too far out.
So when will this new AAC stuff be attainable?
So when will this new AAC stuff be attainable?
Q3 2019
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Q3 2019
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Its sad that I cant tell if this is a joke or not....
Lol exactly
I called AAC today and asked specifically about the 556-SD. The person I spoke to said they are currently shipping to retailers and will be available for purchase very soon.
I was told that about the mini7 too. Then told Sept. Then that it might not even release.
When is the KAC keymod handstop coming out?
Failure2Stop
03-16-14, 22:38
When is the KAC keymod handstop coming out?
It's already "out", heading to your local dealer shortly.
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I've been holding out for the KAC handstop. I don't like the other option out right now.
MountainRaven
03-17-14, 12:41
I'm not a shotgun guy and I have to admit… I'd buy one, if it's priced right.
I wonder how much the spare cylinders will be.
deadlyfire
03-18-14, 23:13
I'd like to see this as well.
I was told that about the mini7 too. Then told Sept. Then that it might not even release.
Maybe there is hope. I started seeing the 556-SD at various retailers in "out of stock" status... showing a price anywhere from $500 and up
No word on 556 SBR uppers for the USA?
Even FN relented and does SCAR SBR barrels.
Would be cool to build an FN A2 clone. Ahhh the good old days.
It is "available" through Bushmaster. Its commercial branding says Bushmaster. I am fully aware of the company affiliations. The point was nothing has come to the marketplace other than the basic ACR and a folding stock & metal handguard for the basic ACR. It is a commercial clusterf**k and they still have no customers on the LE/Mil side. SHOT show prototypes are not production; they are a tease.
Be advised, I say this as a guy who only buys Remington Hunting firearms. Love the company but their "priorities" are not providing the ACR platform discussed in the last 5 SHOT shows. My guess is, they never will.
A Link for your reference. Same page for the last 3 years....
http://www.bushmaster.com/acr/#/intro
Certainly doesn't look based upon based upon the very limited support from Bushy, and Remington innovations not trickling down.
I had super high hopes for the ACR, but my mind and money have moved on to other things at this point.
SilentType
03-21-14, 23:39
The mini is about 4-6 weeks out from pre-order, the hardware to mount it is all available on the RCS sit under "Moduloaders"
http://raven-concealment-systems1.mybigcommerce.com/moduloader-system/
The TQ holders are a current product and can be purchased now from Eleven10 Gear:
http://http://www.1110gear.com/kydex-tq-holders/
The pictures with the mini and TQ along with shears.... The shears are just slid into the other elastic tube on the opposite side of the mini pouch, the other holds the chest dart.
What I would want though is the ability to buy the complete set-up through one website with hopefully a price savings and of course less paid for S&H.
IZinterrogator
03-23-14, 03:40
The tourniquet holder is now available at RCS.
Would really like to hear some news about the 556 QDC/CQB cans?
Would really like to hear some news about the 556 QDC/CQB cans?
Same here. Also curious about the keymod Scout mount.
eternal24k
03-24-14, 08:11
Cannot wait for a 6 Second Mount
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Talywhacker
03-29-14, 15:50
I bet the scout mount is over 200
I bet the scout mount is over 200
Doubtful. Their other keymod accessories are competitively priced.
KAC is very proud of what they produce...but whenever I cough up the change for something they make, I'm never disappointed in the product I receive.
Any ETA on the new 14.5 uppers? Im in the process of upgrading my legacy upper to the 14.5. Should I hold off?
Any ETA on the new 14.5 uppers? Im in the process of upgrading my legacy upper to the 14.5. Should I hold off?
What new 14.5 upper? Currently, all models have been suspended while they gear up to get 16" Mod2 guns out the door.
Any update on the 6 second mount?
What new 14.5 upper? Currently, all models have been suspended while they gear up to get 16" Mod2 guns out the door.
Interesting. Thanks for letting me know.
Pics of new KAC mod2 gas system
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_381/248067_Mod2_Gas_System.html
Very impressive.
Pics of new KAC mod2 gas system
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_381/248067_Mod2_Gas_System.html
Very impressive.
Very slick design. The only issue I see is the need for a tool to remove the gas block retaining nut. Hopefully it will be affordable.
Looks a lot like the older SR25 setup.
Looks a lot like the older SR25 setup.
Some time last year, Kevin alluded that it was inspired by an older design. This was before any design details had been disclosed.
So when do we get an SR47 with a 7.62x39 E3 type bolt, mod 2 gas, URX4, and 7.62 MAMS? :D
So when do we get an SR47 with a 7.62x39 E3 type bolt, mod 2 gas, URX4, and 7.62 MAMS? :D
Current eta: when hell freezes over. ;)
Pics of new KAC mod2 gas system
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_381/248067_Mod2_Gas_System.html
Very impressive.
That's pretty interesting. I know it's a demo, but where is the gas port?
Edit: It doesn't have a gas port as shown further down in that thread.
I know it's a demo, but where is the gas port?
Because it's a demo.
Kevin also said it wasn't chrome lined... because it's a demo.
thats a pretty cool design.Might have to buy a mod2 upper just because lol
If they build a 14.5 mod 2 upper I'm going to have some serious debt.
Failure2Stop
04-06-14, 20:55
If they build a 14.5 mod 2 upper I'm going to have some serious debt.
You've got a little time to save.
Magic_Salad0892
04-06-14, 21:04
Wish Mod2 Gas was compatible with URX 3.1. :/
You've got a little time to save.
A "little time"? That makes me excited.
We have already transitioned our SR-16's over -- the SBR's will get released when we get a handle on the 16" Carbine backlog.
We have already transitioned our SR-16's over -- the SBR's will get released when we get a handle on the 16" Carbine backlog.
That's great to hear. The URX 4 looks better everyday.
Make sure the Mod 2 14.5 uppers have a dimpled barrel. :)
How does one install a Mod2 gas system with a URX4? I'm imagining a long tube the diameter of the mini "castle nut" that slides over the barrel but under the URX4 and has wrench flats higher up to torque it down properly.
It'd be even more high-speed if it was magnetized to ease the installation of the mini castle nut.
CharlieDeltaJuliet
04-14-14, 17:48
I will take one of each in the photos..lol. Great pictures, anytime I get around HK's I smile for days...
Mr.Peacewalker
05-12-14, 23:43
Man that Multi Cam Rail! :happy:
Last update I have on the 6-Second Mount is a July release.
Hispanic_Hercules
06-08-14, 17:04
I was in the market for a nice sling and decided to reach out to the nice folks over at Savvy Sniper to do a custom sling and incorporate the ALG Defense FSS. Turned out rather nice...
http://johncdang.smugmug.com/photos/i-qq2fw4D/0/XL/i-qq2fw4D-XL.jpg
http://johncdang.smugmug.com/photos/i-F7Wt8Mk/0/XL/i-F7Wt8Mk-XL.jpg
http://johncdang.smugmug.com/photos/i-FL33TBc/0/XL/i-FL33TBc-XL.jpg
http://johncdang.smugmug.com/photos/i-PqpXk33/0/XL/i-PqpXk33-XL.jpg
That is one incredible looking sling. If you don't mind me asking how much did it run you. I would love to have one for my duty rifle
Hispanic_Hercules
06-08-14, 17:06
Geissele does not require much introduction...This will be the first of many threads on my SHOt 2014 tour, but what better way to kick it off then with a Geissele booth tour.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120826.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120826.jpg)
6 Second mount is about to go into mass production, casted body with new tooling will keep the price of this beauty down to a acceptable level.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120825.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120825.jpg)
Requested by a tier one unit, they found a solid mount for red dot is a much faster solution to acquire a target and it is also much more reliable solution then a slide mounted solution. like Tactical weaponry Jedi Master Ken Hackathorn stated over and over again, red dot mounted on a pistol slide is the future, it is just not right now. the 6 second mount solves this issue and at the same time brings about a menacing look to your every day Glock
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120818.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120818.jpg)
This is the prototype Geissele trigger for the Tavor...not much to look at, but trust me, this is the best bullpup trigger I have ever felt and I have owned AUG and FS2000. still in prototype form, some more tweaking before a general public release later in Q2.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120829.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120829.jpg)
Geissele Mk4 and Mk5, both are Keymod ready but the Mk4 will have a section of the picatinny rail up front.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120827.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120827.jpg)
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120828.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120828.jpg)
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120819.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120819.jpg)
Camo Mk5 rail, its all anadized..very slick
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120820.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120820.jpg)
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120821.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120821.jpg)
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120822.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120822.jpg)
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120823.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120823.jpg)
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120824.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120824.jpg)
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120813.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120813.jpg)
ALG's ultra low cost free float rail. priced at about 145.00 each, it will take the market segment by storm. Purple will be in the option along with grey and black.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120814.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120814.jpg)
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120815.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120815.jpg)
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120816.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120816.jpg)
The installation tool is part of the package along with shim and a detail instruction sheet.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120831.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120831.jpg)
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120817.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120817.jpg)
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120830.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120830.jpg)
If they started producing the camo color rail I would be forced to buy yet another geissele lol.
Hispanic_Hercules
06-08-14, 17:12
Anyone know what type of rail covers they are running. I have yet to find any for my SPR which will screw in and not require a ton of modifications to make them work
Can anyone in the know give an update when the 6 second mount may be ready for release?
Can anyone in the know give an update when the 6 second mount may be ready for release?
July release is what they said a month ago.
harrishmasher
06-26-14, 14:41
I have a UCIW that I love, but those PDWs are to die for.
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120399.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120399.jpg)
Extended Key mod rail section for application on 308 rifles...
Any news on this thing? Particularly on the 556 urx4. I'd like to extend my handguard over my suppressor.
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I'm still waiting on this as well. I've made a few 5.56 URX4 versions by cutting up 2 rails, not really pleased with them. A factory version would be much better.
That was quite the muzzle device on that one rifle, will they be selling individually?
Wow..I am not a big HK fan but......i'm in awwww on how well it built HKs are.
wow....really going to miss the URX 3.1
Certainly hope its available as an aftermarket part for some time. Along with the DD LITE III, the URX 3.1 is one of my favorite rails.
Failure2Stop
08-03-14, 06:37
wow....really going to miss the URX 3.1
Certainly hope its available as an aftermarket part for some time. Along with the DD LITE III, the URX 3.1 is one of my favorite rails.
The current plan is to continue production of the URX3.1.
I love both H&K and FDE, but RAL8000 really looks awful, at least in pictures. Too much gold/mustard.
I wonder if or when they are ever going to release those rail covers...
Hispanic_Hercules
08-18-14, 10:29
I spoke with LWRC today. They said they should be on the shelf in approximately one month for sale.. After years of waiting, it is about TIME!!!!
Briman1001
09-14-14, 14:19
July release is what they said a month ago.
Did the July release happen? I have not seen them for sale or on the ALG site. What't the new estimate?
No new ETA but things are moving with the mount. BG was just at a trade show and picked up a new machine to do the mounts. Please understand that we lost two key people at Geissele this year which impacted timelines for bringing products to market.
bigheadcal
09-21-14, 17:27
Beautiful stuff coming out from the big G.
Just put in an order for the mk 8 rail
No new ETA but things are moving with the mount. BG was just at a trade show and picked up a new machine to do the mounts. Please understand that we lost two key people at Geissele this year which impacted timelines for bringing products to market.
Sorry to hear that. That 6 second mount may make me start shooting my Glock again. Until you release one for the M&P at least.
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JAustin316
09-23-14, 21:45
Beautiful stuff coming out from the big G.
Just put in an order for the mk 8 rail
AGREED
JAustin316
09-23-14, 21:48
The tourniquet holder is now available at RCS.
Great holder by the way!
Sorry to hear that. That 6 second mount may make me start shooting my Glock again. Until you release one for the M&P at least.
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+1 on the M&P mount (pretty please)
Still waiting for a 15" mk8 :)
JAustin316
09-24-14, 16:10
+1 on the M&P mount (pretty please)
+2 as well. I assume its only a matter of time now.
I've always wondered if Gene Stoner's inspiration for the AR10 gas system (the tube section) came from his background in aviation maintenance.
This Mod 2 deals with the gas tube, or line, in a similar way that aviation line fittings are used to seal them at junctions. Looks like a natural evolution of the system that should have taken place in the early 1960's.
KAC has more institutional knowledge about the AR10 and AR15 than probably anyone else, especially when you look at the tool room samples and early Stoner guns in the collection/museum.
sinlessorrow
11-15-14, 17:05
That gas tube setup just plain makes sense. Gonna have to buy a SR-15 when they come with all these mods.
Failure2Stop
11-15-14, 17:19
That gas tube setup just plain makes sense. Gonna have to buy a SR-15 when they come with all these mods.
The mod 2 is in production and available.
The mod 2 is in production and available.
I actually saw a mod2 on a store wall last week. Really impressive.
sinlessorrow
11-15-14, 18:02
The mod 2 is in production and available.
Excellent, the perfect item to blow my income tax money on come the new year.
I actually saw a mod2 on a store wall last week. Really impressive.
Wait till you shoot one.:cool:
Forgive me if this was already answered, if so I'll Delete this Post... but wasn't the Mod2 supposed to include the MAMS? All the photos I've seen have shown them with an A2.
Forgive me if this was already answered, if so I'll Delete this Post... but wasn't the Mod2 supposed to include the MAMS? All the photos I've seen have shown them with an A2.
They started with an A2 FH, then transitioned to the 3 prong FH.
They started with an A2 FH, then transitioned to the 3 prong FH.
Gotcha... thanks. Don't know where I got the MAMS Idea from :P
I'm guessing their 3 Prong hopefully doesn't have the "Tuning Fork" sound to it?
Gotcha... thanks. Don't know where I got the MAMS Idea from :P
I'm guessing their 3 Prong hopefully doesn't have the "Tuning Fork" sound to it?
Nope, it's an asymmetrical design that doesn't "ping".
Nope, it's an asymmetrical design that doesn't "ping".
Awesome. Have the Dimensions and Weight on it by any chance? Ok to install via Crush Washer if not running Suppressed?
wilson1911
11-17-14, 16:19
Also remember the MAMS is a 300 dollar item. No way they would throw that in.
I just got mine in about 1 month ago, it came with a 3 prong that I will be removing when I find MAMS in stock. After shooting it some for break in, there is a definite difference in shooting without it on. I have one on my other kac.
Also remember the MAMS is a 300 dollar item. No way they would throw that in.
I just got mine in about 1 month ago, it came with a 3 prong that I will be removing when I find MAMS in stock. After shooting it some for break in, there is a definite difference in shooting without it on. I have one on my other kac.
Yup, deep down I suppose I really want a MAMS... might be calling Marc @ Lawmens to see if they have any in stock.
What are you implying about there being a difference without it being on? Do tell please...
I was gonna run a Griffin... but now it looks like it's between the KAC 3 Prong and the MAMS.
Awesome. Have the Dimensions and Weight on it by any chance? Ok to install via Crush Washer if not running Suppressed?
I have a preference towards precision shims and rocksett, but you could probably make the crush washer go in a pinch if you never install a can.
I have a preference towards precision shims and rocksett, but you could probably make the crush washer go in a pinch if you never install a can.
Thanks. If I ever did go with a KAC can for one of their devices, I would definitely R&R it with Rocksett and Shims. I'm assuming only KAC cans will interface properly on their newest Muzzle Devices?
I don't know of other brand cans that would fit. The new line of cans have rock solid mounting and I've been extremely impressed overall with them.
How much flash suppression does the 3 prong have over the MAMS?
For someone that can't have a suppressor, does the MAMS offer anything over the 3 prong flash hider on an 11.5" pistol or SBR?
Is there a significant increase in concussion from the MAMS brake over the 3 prong flash hider out of a short barrel?
I never really considered a brake for a 5.56 as recoil just isn't that bad. I was also under the impression that the 3 prong flash hider and MAMS were both compatible with the same suppressors, is there something I'm missing?
How much flash suppression does the 3 prong have over the MAMS?
For someone that can't have a suppressor, does the MAMS offer anything over the 3 prong flash hider on an 11.5" pistol or SBR?
Is there a significant increase in concussion from the MAMS brake over the 3 prong flash hider out of a short barrel?
I never really considered a brake for a 5.56 as recoil just isn't that bad. I was also under the impression that the 3 prong flash hider and MAMS were both compatible with the same suppressors, is there something I'm missing?
The KAC 3 prong is a better flash suppressor over the MAMS by a wide margin.
I prefer the 3 Prong over the MAMS for most uses on 11.5" SBR's, that's personally to me and I don't bother with AR pistols.
There is more "concussion" with the MAMS over the 3 prong, but the MAMS is already mild as far as "concussion" goes compared to similar devices.
The QDC line of sound suppressors is caliber specific from KAC, with their own muzzle devices, 5.56 is one and 7.62 with 300 AAC Blackout grouped being the difference.
I have run the larger caliber cans on smaller hosts, but I think it's better to run caliber specific cans in general.
Any updates on the 6 second mount for Glocks? Will I be able to get one with my Christmas money?
He picked up a 5-axis machine to do the mounts but I wouldn't expect to see them till after SHOT.
Ok, well thanks for the update ! As long as they are still in the works!
Thank you, that's exactly the answer I was looking for.
Can you say what barrel profile the new mod 2 11.5" uppers will have?
I know the new 14.5" uppers will have LW barrel profiles with no dimples, but I don't remember seeing anything mentioned on the 11.5" variants
Thanks again
Failure2Stop
11-19-14, 18:15
Thank you, that's exactly the answer I was looking for.
Can you say what barrel profile the new mod 2 11.5" uppers will have?
I know the new 14.5" uppers will have LW barrel profiles with no dimples, but I don't remember seeing anything mentioned on the 11.5" variants
Thanks again
They are all the lightweight profile.
The exploded view is pretty cool on that osprey.
Thanks again,
What's the reasoning for going LW with the 11.5" uppers? I understand for the 14.5" and 16" configurations, but I would assume a lot of people who go with the 11.5" would be running a suppressor. Wouldn't a thinker profile be better for suppressor use?
Drool, really want the Mod 2. Maybe one of these days....
Are there any mod 2 14.5" uppers out there for purchase yet ? I've been looking for one.
Are there any mod 2 14.5" uppers out there for purchase yet ? I've been looking for one.
There are not currently. Kac has stated they are planning them. (standard barrels, not dimpled) no eta though
Breacher 217
12-21-14, 14:21
They are now added to my distributors inventory list. None in stock but they have been added to the system.
They are now added to my distributors inventory list. None in stock but they have been added to the system.
The 14.5" uppers ? I'm very close to paying a huge upcharge for one with a medium contour, dimpled barrel. The only hesitation I have with the new ones is the possibility of a light weight profile barrel. I prefer the medium contour of the current generation.
Failure2Stop
12-22-14, 07:20
The 14.5" uppers ? I'm very close to paying a huge upcharge for one with a medium contour, dimpled barrel. The only hesitation I have with the new ones is the possibility of a light weight profile barrel. I prefer the medium contour of the current generation.
The dimpled barrel was good if you wanted a little more forward weight, but from a performance perspective, the current barrel is at the same level of performance as the dimpled mid-weight, with a possible edge in pure precision*.
*Note: While 5.56 guns all get a function verification test, they are not shot for accuracy from the factory (other than the LPR). My data is limited to information collection only, not long-term definitive testing.
I know I'm going against the grain but I like a little extra weight out there. Still not sure if the deal is gonna go through on this upper. I don't know if that's a bad thing as the upper alone would be more than a complete sr 15 mod 2.
At this point I'm starting to question if there's enough of a difference in the 14.5 vs the Mod 2 16" or the future mod 2 14.5. If it doesn't go through I'll hold off until you guys put out the mod 2 14.5 uppers and pin the new MAMS to it. Maybe wait till after SHOT show ?
Breacher 217
12-22-14, 08:10
Having had or shot the legacy, Mod 1, Mod 2 and 14.5 dimpled barrel guns I still prefer the 14.5 dimpled barrel guns. I could tell a difference shooting the 16" with MAMS and a 14.5 with MAMS back to back. I kept my 14.5 dimpled gun and sold the rest because I never shot them any more.
Is it a combination of the barrel length and gas port or does the heavier weight of the barrel make the difference ? I'm torn about whether to wait for the newer mod 2 with lightweight barrel 14.5 upper or dump the money on the med-con dimpled upper.
Failure2Stop
12-22-14, 08:28
I know I'm going against the grain but I like a little extra weight out there. Still not sure if the deal is gonna go through on this upper. I don't know if that's a bad thing as the upper alone would be more than a complete sr 15 mod 2.
At this point I'm starting to question if there's enough of a difference in the 14.5 vs the Mod 2 16" or the future mod 2 14.5. If it doesn't go through I'll hold off until you guys put out the mod 2 14.5 uppers and pin the new MAMS to it. Maybe wait till after SHOT show ?
Weight forward is good for shooting a lot.
Reduced weight is good for carrying a lot.
Everything has a trade-off.
Damn the dimpled upper slipped through my fingers. Now I'm looking forward to what you guys have in store for the next 14.5" SR15.
kingofzippo
01-04-15, 10:11
The new KAC cans with couplers are pretty damn cool. Theres no doubt that a coupler is a superior way to make an airtight connection? I wonder how they handle a little debris around the coupler itself? Have you ever tried to connect an even lightly soiled coupler? They are not easily cleaned quickly.
The new KAC cans with couplers are pretty damn cool. Theres no doubt that a coupler is a superior way to make an airtight connection? I wonder how they handle a little debris around the coupler itself? Have you ever tried to connect an even lightly soiled coupler? They are not easily cleaned quickly.
I haven't had any more issues than any other QD mount. That's one of the few things that get hit with at least a quick scrub after any range trip. KAC, Surefire, AAC, and others. The new QDC line seems great for now without issues.
kingofzippo
01-04-15, 10:39
Yes, you have to attend to your equipment always ;-) I was imagining the sandbox. I look forward to hearing more from users in the field. You can't deny that the coupler is a great idea. An excellent use of old tech!
Achieve thread for SMGLee's 2014 SHOT Show threads
Maybe its me but there are different references to Shot Show 2015 and 2014. The pictures on the first page seem to refer to new products from the 2015 Shot Show but they are dated 2014. Please set me straight.
Maybe its me but there are different references to Shot Show 2015 and 2014. The pictures on the first page seem to refer to new products from the 2015 Shot Show but they are dated 2014. Please set me straight.
Yeah, I'm not getting it either. The main section says "2015" yet everything in here is labeled "2014". A bit confusing.
Yeah, I'm not getting it either. The main section says "2015" yet everything in here is labeled "2014". A bit confusing.
Agreed
The mods changed the forum title for this years SHOT and this is a thread from the 2014 SHOT show. Not hard to figure out.
Where is the thread for the 2015 Shot Show?
The mods changed the forum title for this years SHOT and this is a thread from the 2014 SHOT show. Not hard to figure out.
Actually it is hard to figure out. Where is the thread for the 2015 SS? If there isn't one then maybe the Forum Title shouldn't of been changed.
Patience guys. Smglee will get the pics flowing soon enough.
Actually it is hard to figure out. Where is the thread for the 2015 SS? If there isn't one then maybe the Forum Title shouldn't of been changed.
Recognizing that you've been here less than a year, this is how it works every year.
they move the threads from last year to a tacked thread.
SMGLee gets home or where ever and edits and post the pics in different threads according to manufacturer.
Hold tight.
snichols28
01-27-15, 09:45
ehhhh, nothing too exciting I see
REdruM0351
02-05-15, 21:34
As I cannot make it to Shot show these threads are the meat and potatoes of the future of the firearm industry to me. Keep up the great work !
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