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SMGLee
01-20-14, 18:39
Geissele does not require much introduction...This will be the first of many threads on my SHOt 2014 tour, but what better way to kick it off then with a Geissele booth tour.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120826.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120826.jpg)
6 Second mount is about to go into mass production, casted body with new tooling will keep the price of this beauty down to a acceptable level.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120825.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120825.jpg)
Requested by a tier one unit, they found a solid mount for red dot is a much faster solution to acquire a target and it is also much more reliable solution then a slide mounted solution. like Tactical weaponry Jedi Master Ken Hackathorn stated over and over again, red dot mounted on a pistol slide is the future, it is just not right now. the 6 second mount solves this issue and at the same time brings about a menacing look to your every day Glock

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120818.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120818.jpg)
This is the prototype Geissele trigger for the Tavor...not much to look at, but trust me, this is the best bullpup trigger I have ever felt and I have owned AUG and FS2000. still in prototype form, some more tweaking before a general public release later in Q2.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120829.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120829.jpg)
Geissele Mk4 and Mk5, both are Keymod ready but the Mk4 will have a section of the picatinny rail up front.

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120819.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120819.jpg)
Camo Mk5 rail, its all anadized..very slick

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120813.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120813.jpg)
ALG's ultra low cost free float rail. priced at about 145.00 each, it will take the market segment by storm. Purple will be in the option along with grey and black.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120814.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120814.jpg)

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The installation tool is part of the package along with shim and a detail instruction sheet.

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SMGLee
01-20-14, 19:01
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120833.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120833.jpg)
ALG QD sling swivel, it is build to handle up to 700lbs of weight. priced at no more than 35.00 each.

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120836.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120836.jpg)
Dual port ALG muzzle brake, another solid product from ALG with extremely competitive pricing.

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SMGLee
01-20-14, 19:36
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120037.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120037.jpg)
Crye Precision Shotgun???? that was the reaction I got from everyone that asked me what I thought was interesting at SHOT

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120038.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120038.jpg)

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Mechanical double action trigger that rotate the cylinder and also fires the weapon...just like a revolver.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120017.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120017.jpg)

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120019.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120019.jpg)
Completely modular, you can switch between a 22" barreled stand alone bullpup shot shotgun to a CQB barreled shotgun or an under barrel master key.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120020.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120020.jpg)

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I wasn't able to lock on a solid focus, but a button nested above the barrel section locks and releases the barrel from action.

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SMGLee
01-20-14, 19:42
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120031.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120031.jpg)

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120037.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120037.jpg)
Brinchild of Calab Crye, and developed by Eric B.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120008.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120008.jpg)
oh..yea...some armor stuff...

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mnguyenpdx
01-20-14, 19:53
Thanks for the pics! really diggin that smr mk5 rail in multicam!!

carolvs
01-20-14, 20:01
Thanks Chen! Did you hear an MSRP on the Six12?

SMGLee
01-20-14, 20:20
No words on MSRP, estimated release date is in the later half of 2014 maybe 2015.

SMGLee
01-20-14, 20:24
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120092.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120092.jpg)
Another cool find at SHOT this year was the Desert Tech's new bullpup carbine. well thought out and with the new ejection port design eliminates the bullpup's shortfall of strong side only shooting style. also with the magazine button moved to front of the trigger and a very quick access bolt release..this is very promising.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120093.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120093.jpg)

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120086.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120086.jpg)
One Chassis multiple caliber, this is the 5.56 carbine with a magazine block...also visible is the large and easily accible bolt release. you can quickly release the bolt as you insert and lock in the magazine.

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Another shot of the bolt release.

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Forward location of the magazione release.


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non reciprocating charging handle and it can be mounted left or right side.

mdmmd1
01-20-14, 20:34
Was about to buy a Tavor and then I saw pictures of this from Shot.

SMGLee
01-20-14, 20:37
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120075.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120075.jpg)

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the rifle can be disabmled via a few pull pins, and the bolt carrier can be released via this lever on the top of the receiver/Stock.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120072.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120072.jpg)
This set up on the ejection port door cover supposed to help the ejected brass push forward of the shooter's face....no mechanical detail available.

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120071.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120071.jpg)



http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120047.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120047.jpg)
Desert Tech will be releasing this Remington 700 action chassis

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120050.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120050.jpg)

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120060.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120060.jpg)
A new feature for 2014, adjustable cheek piece.

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mig1nc
01-20-14, 20:40
Yeah. A Tavor plus a Super Trigger or Timney Trigger would cost about as much as this which doesn't need a trigger upgrade. Something to think about.

SMGLee
01-20-14, 20:45
If they can get this to the market...this could be a winner!

GNXII
01-20-14, 20:46
I'd buy it just on there (DT) stance/refusal on selling arms that might be turned against US troops. Way to go to put morals above profit, take notice corporate America!!

LibertyNeverDies
01-20-14, 21:04
I really like the looks of this. SMGLee great job on the photos, I always enjoy seeing these every year. You put the time into getting the detail shots that no one else takes. Thanks for the great work!

SpeedRacer
01-20-14, 21:27
Easily one of the coolest new things I saw at the show.

Smash
01-20-14, 22:37
Not to derail the thread but where does one find the t shirt with the cross off list

Impact
01-20-14, 22:41
plenty on ebay

montrala
01-21-14, 07:02
On bulpup I see several similarities to bulpup version of Polish MSBS. Looks like our designers here in Poland are going right way.

C-grunt
01-21-14, 10:14
Is that a 308 Pmag in one of the pictures?

Any price on that Rem chassis?

kdcgrohl
01-21-14, 11:23
Great pics as usual! Does anyone know if Geissele will be offering their wares in Multi-cam anodizing or was that just a SHOT show display piece?

SMGLee
01-21-14, 13:51
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120099.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120099.jpg)
Coolest show piece on the SHOT floor.....

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Revised Vicker's 2-2-1 sling, made simpler and lower the cost.

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SMGLee
01-21-14, 13:59
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120115.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120115.jpg)
Extremely light weight Plate minus. check ouot all the small attention to detail on this carrier, extremely comfortable and light weight, it is definitely a serious competitor to the market place.

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Inner side armor pocket, minimalist and effect design to take out the unnecessary weight but still securely retain the side armor.

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Little touches like this pull tab makes this carrier one of the most ergonomic and user friendly carrier on the market.

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RXM
01-21-14, 15:34
At this time, there are no intentions of making additional rails in multicam due to the cost of this special anodizing. If there is a market demand for it, then we would bring it to market.

Iraqgunz
01-21-14, 16:18
We are going to be using a lot of the ALG/Geissele stuff in our builds. Especially the EMR rail.

SMGLee
01-21-14, 16:44
I took about 1000 pictures at SHOT, I think the HK pictures took about 150 shots. the most I took at any booth. Does that make me a HK freak? well, I think its an Asian thing.

HK Celebrated their 50th anniversary for the MP5 SMG, the SMG for all others to measure against.

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SMGLee
01-21-14, 16:46
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ClearedHot
01-21-14, 16:57
Deleted....Sorry, although a funny comment, but I am still working on the thread..Thanks......SMGLee

SMGLee
01-21-14, 17:00
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Interesting take on the Keymod design, HK team in the States flip the keymod the opposite direction and change the dimension....for the sack of HK being different or????

Supposedly the reverse configuration is better for a lock up during recoil and the revised dimension is redesigned to have step internally to lock in the keys much more securely than the current Keymod design released by Eric Kincel of BCM

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Self cleaning spiral stack.

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This screw on piece of baffle is supposedly the only part of the can that require cleaning, so if you shot it out, you can simply replace it for another piece at a very low cost of 50.00

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SMGLee
01-21-14, 17:08
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HK 416 competition rifle, designed in house by HK USA.

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HK 417A2 in the same design path as last year's HK416A5

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SMGLee
01-21-14, 17:20
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HK MG121, and MG 4

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you can switch between butterfly handle, folding stock and full stock with a simple button and twist turn the stock to change.

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Remote gun turret trigger pack

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SMGLee
01-21-14, 17:26
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SMGLee
01-21-14, 17:34
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Hwikek
01-21-14, 17:43
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Any word on the HK293? I know I'm saving aside a good sized chunk of change to pick one up.

SMGLee
01-21-14, 17:44
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My HK SHOT 2014 tour is completed...

carolvs
01-21-14, 18:17
I'm curious at the near ubiquity of FDE. Is anyone actually buying it aside from US civilians at this point?

WickedWillis
01-21-14, 18:35
Wow. This thread is amazing so far thanks for all the pics.

alvincullumyork
01-21-14, 20:06
Anything new on the pistol side?

JusticeM4
01-21-14, 20:06
OMG H&K heaven....

I'll take a HK417 and MP7 in gold please!!

Great pics, thanks for sharing.

jerhelo
01-21-14, 20:11
HK always puts out the most amazing display of weaponry!!!! Heavy as hell but amazing stuff, I would love to get my hands on one of this patrols!!!!

SMGLee
01-21-14, 20:42
A big Thank you to Failure2Stop for taking me around the booth at KAC. Jack is well verse in his KAC weaponry and overall a very knowledgeable gun guy. M4C has some great moderators.

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Extended Key mod rail section for application on 308 rifles...

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SMGLee
01-21-14, 20:54
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Nick S
01-21-14, 20:56
Those key mod offset irons are the heat. When can I get some?

SMGLee
01-21-14, 21:02
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SMGLee
01-21-14, 21:19
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No SHOT show thread is complete without our beautiful BattleComp girl Kristine Sun....

9DivDoc
01-21-14, 21:30
Thanks for the pics Chen...very nice as usual :)

Switch
01-21-14, 21:32
Those offset irons are a great keymod accessory, would like to pick up a set of those. Probably have to get myself one of the KAC rails to go with it.

MontePR
01-21-14, 21:53
I really like the coupler type suppressor attachment.

Moose-Knuckle
01-21-14, 22:32
I'm curious at the near ubiquity of FDE. Is anyone actually buying it aside from US civilians at this point?

I find it more of a honey mustard than a FDE but I get what you are saying. I think HK was onto something several years back when they made USPs and SL8s in grey, after all grey is the new FDE.

Mak8080
01-22-14, 01:41
Wow, those suppressors are sexy.

Grand58742
01-22-14, 01:49
You know, with all the awesomeness that KAC puts out, it still surprises me they haven't gone to a different pistol grip than the A2.

Figured they would have come up with something unique for the platform.

montrala
01-22-14, 07:01
I'm curious at the near ubiquity of FDE. Is anyone actually buying it aside from US civilians at this point?


It is called RAL8000. Bundeswehr uses it on G28 for example.


Any word on the HK293? I know I'm saving aside a good sized chunk of change to pick one up.

1-2 years with price target under $2000 ($1700 were mentioned) - look for Wayne Weber interview.

doriwoogie
01-22-14, 07:58
Any SR-47 sightings?

JoshNC
01-22-14, 09:02
I really like the coupler type suppressor attachment.

It seems like carbon fouling could bind up that ball bearing coupling system. I wonder what they did to prevent this from occurring.

jonconsiglio
01-22-14, 09:10
The smaller 308 was smaller than I expected. The keymod scout mount was also pretty slick.

scoutfsu99
01-22-14, 09:10
You know, with all the awesomeness that KAC puts out, it still surprises me they haven't gone to a different pistol grip than the A2.

Figured they would have come up with something unique for the platform.

And then they would be picked apart on the internet by sycophants and bottom feeders who whine about a grip they've never touched or seen in person....kind of like our Daniel Defense thread.

An A2 grip is just smart business. The people who like them will keep them and the people who don't were almost certainly going to change the grip to whatever they like anyways.

Campbell
01-22-14, 09:30
It is called RAL8000. Bundeswehr uses it on G28 for example.



1-2 years with price target under $2000 ($1700 were mentioned) - look for Wayne Weber interview.


I had customers start asking for RAL8000 about 2 years ago....has turned out to be a very popular color...and very neutral in our environment as well.

montrala
01-22-14, 09:48
I had customers start asking for RAL8000 about 2 years ago....has turned out to be a very popular color...and very neutral in our environment as well.

This is around time, when HK came out with G28 in RAL8000. As a curio, RAL8000 is same colour that Rommel's Afrika Korps used back in WW2.

jonconsiglio
01-22-14, 10:07
This was my first time handling a Geissele SMR and I was surprised how small it felt compared to what I expected. It looks a little bulky in some pics, but even handling it immediately after the KMR, it felt great.

I'm looking forward to that MK5.

motoduck
01-22-14, 10:56
So what's the deal with the KAC wrist watch? A one of for the show? A promo?

Failure2Stop
01-22-14, 12:06
You know, with all the awesomeness that KAC puts out, it still surprises me they haven't gone to a different pistol grip than the A2.

Figured they would have come up with something unique for the platform.

There are so many options on the market that we don't want to be wedded to any single one, so we put on a simple, inexpensive, readily replaced option. The A2 grip is kinda like sights on a Glock.
Imagine it as a sign that says "grip goes here".

Failure2Stop
01-22-14, 12:09
It seems like carbon fouling could bind up that ball bearing coupling system. I wonder what they did to prevent this from occurring.

The retention threads lie outside the coupling, so they aren't at issue with fouling.
Carbon doesn't really stick to the ceramic balls (especially if they are treated with a good carbon inhibitor), so fouling doesn't really effect them either.

mtdawg169
01-22-14, 13:25
The retention threads lie outside the coupling, so they aren't at issue with fouling.
Carbon doesn't really stick to the ceramic balls (especially if they are treated with a good carbon inhibitor), so fouling doesn't really effect them either.

The demo model I saw a couple of years ago seemed like it would not be prone to getting carbon locked on the mount at all. The ball lock design gave me the impression that it would be easily removed.

Grand58742
01-22-14, 13:58
There are so many options on the market that we don't want to be wedded to any single one, so we put on a simple, inexpensive, readily replaced option. The A2 grip is kinda like sights on a Glock.
Imagine it as a sign that says "grip goes here".

Fair enough answer.

munch520
01-22-14, 14:10
The QDC CQB 7.62 is on the top of my list of must-haves this year. That on a 9" blackout would be the ultimate short setup. Kevin has been kind enough to answer a couple questions in terms of availability and suppression so once I check a couple proverbial boxes...I'll probably pull the trigger on it.

The keymod accessories were also very slick. The keymod mounts for things like that micro front sight were crazy light, and very nice looking despite being proto/pre-release.

vereceleritas
01-22-14, 14:42
Those new cans have my interest as well. Can anyone point me to a dealer who stocks KAC suppressors? Would like to know about the price and availability.

JoshNC
01-22-14, 15:09
The retention threads lie outside the coupling, so they aren't at issue with fouling.
Carbon doesn't really stick to the ceramic balls (especially if they are treated with a good carbon inhibitor), so fouling doesn't really effect them either.

Interesting. Thank you for clarifying this.

RadioActivity
01-22-14, 16:38
FINALLY ambi-charging handles... But wait, as per the photos, this is not a standard option on the new rifles this year? This has been THE thing the SR-15 series has been missing, stick those suckers in the rifles and check that block. The A44's I have on my two Mod 1's are what make the rifle's ambi design features sensible.

Does anyone have pictures of the new gas block/gas tube interface, and can explain exactly the purpose behind the redesign. Is it nothing more than to create clearance the new URX4 rail?

Campbell
01-22-14, 16:43
This is around time, when HK came out with G28 in RAL8000. As a curio, RAL8000 is same colour that Rommel's Afrika Korps used back in WW2.

Thanks for the info...very interesting.:)

mtdawg169
01-22-14, 17:28
FINALLY ambi-charging handles... But wait, as per the photos, this is not a standard option on the new rifles this year? This has been THE thing the SR-15 series has been missing, stick those suckers in the rifles and check that block. The A44's I have on my two Mod 1's are what make the rifle's ambi design features sensible.

Does anyone have pictures of the new gas block/gas tube interface, and can explain exactly the purpose behind the redesign. Is it nothing more than to create clearance the new URX4 rail?

The gas block design was described as providing a better gas seal, but that's the limit of what I know about why it was changed. I assume that it will be pretty slim below the barrel. The design is pretty interesting, but I imagine it will require a specific tool for installation. From what I've gathered so far, the barrel and block are notched for proper alignment. The gas tube is straight and attaches to the gas block via a jam nut. The barrel is threaded forward of the gas block and a castle nut will thread onto the barrel to secure the gas block in place. This is what I've gathered after a couple of days of research, so it may not be 100% accurate.

Failure2Stop
01-22-14, 17:36
The gas block design was described as providing a better gas seal, but that's the limit of what I know about why it was changed. I assume that it will be pretty slim below the barrel. The design is pretty interesting, but I imagine it will require a specific tool for installation. From what I've gathered so far, the barrel and block are notched for proper alignment. The gas tube is straight and attaches to the gas block via a jam nut. The barrel is threaded forward of the gas block and a castle nut will thread onto the barrel to secure the gas block in place. This is what I've gathered after a couple of days of research, so it may not be 100% accurate.

That's pretty accurate.
The engineering challenge was to get a gas block secured under a tube with the same confidence as taper pins, without needing lateral access to the gas block, while eliminating gas leakage/inefficiency.

mtdawg169
01-22-14, 18:15
Jack, will the locking nut require any sort of threadlocker, or just a torque spec?

PS, thanks for the confirmation. I've been curious about the redesign ever since it was alluded to a few months ago.

rapomstage3
01-22-14, 19:11
I love the scout mount.

mtdawg169
01-22-14, 19:41
I love the scout mount.

KAC has some of the most well executed keymod accessories on the market. I hope they produce a ton of them.

PatrioticDisorder
01-22-14, 20:28
That's pretty accurate.
The engineering challenge was to get a gas block secured under a tube with the same confidence as taper pins, without needing lateral access to the gas block, while eliminating gas leakage/inefficiency.

Is this to make it easier to swap out gas tubes by not needing to take the URX4 off?

Tzoid
01-22-14, 22:07
H&K in my opinion has the Keymod orientation right. I'm no expert but someone needs to explain why other manufacturers would not be doing the same as H&K with the smaller end of the hole towards the rear. Recoil impulse dictates this is the way to go.

I need to hold off buying a new rail for my Gen 1 SR15-E3

MGWS
01-22-14, 22:56
plenty on ebay

Tried looking for the shirt. Do you have a link? thanks

SPARTAN HOPLITE ARMS
01-22-14, 23:43
I hope they release this! Looks great and seemingly negates some of the issues with bullpup designs.

RyanB
01-23-14, 00:49
What is the length of pull? To me that is a huge issue that has yet to be overcome.

Tzintzuntzan
01-23-14, 01:58
Sure hope this bullpup kicks some butt. If it does I'll try to get my grubby mitts on one.

Caeser25
01-23-14, 06:25
Any news on the SR47 or still just concept on the backburner?

Magic_Salad0892
01-23-14, 06:38
Will the new gas system design make it onto the guns with URX 3.1s?

Specifically the SBRs?

mtdawg169
01-23-14, 07:26
Will the new gas system design make it onto the guns with URX 3.1s?

Specifically the SBRs?

Not sure that there will be any guns produced with 3.1 rails this year. Further, there's no word yet on availability of any models other than the SR15 Mod2.

Failure2Stop
01-23-14, 08:30
Is this to make it easier to swap out gas tubes by not needing to take the URX4 off?

No.
The gas tube fitting cannot be accessed through the handguard.


Jack, will the locking nut require any sort of threadlocker, or just a torque spec?

PS, thanks for the confirmation. I've been curious about the redesign ever since it was alluded to a few months ago.

Torque and anti-seize.


Will the new gas system design make it onto the guns with URX 3.1s?

Specifically the SBRs?

No.
The Mod 1 line will remain as-is for remaining orders and contract completion, and new production forward will be Mod 2.


I love the scout mount.

Me too.
;)

SilverBullet432
01-23-14, 10:45
DAT WATCH!! :eek: those keymod micro buis are slick too!!

Onyx Z
01-23-14, 12:56
Forgive me if I missed something, but are all Mod 2's going to have the URX4? If so, will the URX3.1 be discontinued both as a factory item and aftermarket accessory? I hope not, I really like the URX3.1...

mtdawg169
01-23-14, 13:17
Forgive me if I missed something, but are all Mod 2's going to have the URX4? If so, will the URX3.1 be discontinued both as a factory item and aftermarket accessory? I hope not, I really like the URX3.1...

All Mod2 will have the URX4. The 3.1 rails are still in the catalog, so it looks like it will still be available for aftermarket install.

mtdawg169
01-23-14, 13:19
Not sure that there will be any guns produced with 3.1 rails this year. Further, there's no word yet on availability of any models other than the SR15 Mod2.

Correction to my earlier post. Kevin stated elsewhere that SBR models may be available later in the year. No word on configurations, but it looks like the ball milled 14.5 upper may be discontinued.

Fireguy275
01-23-14, 13:30
SMGLee, of the two versions pictured above, what's the barrel length of the longer one?

hjmpanzr
01-23-14, 15:27
Correction to my earlier post. Kevin stated elsewhere that SBR models may be available later in the year. No word on configurations, but it looks like the ball milled 14.5 upper may be discontinued.

Unfortunately, KB said that would the case but he wrote they were going to fill all remaining commerical orders and they haven't filled all 14.5 ball milled orders yes cause I have another comin my way.

Breacher 217
01-23-14, 15:43
So disappointed...Everybody need a 14.5 Ball milled upper.

hjmpanzr
01-23-14, 16:11
So disappointed...Everybody need a 14.5 Ball milled upper.

Agreed. I thought I heard that the UN just declared it was a universal human right to own a KAC 14.5" ball milled upper. ;)

ElJefeDeJefes
01-23-14, 16:34
Agreed. I thought I heard that the UN just declared it was a universal human right to own a KAC 14.5" ball milled upper. ;)

^^^
This! I'm kicking myself for not ordering two 14.5" uppers......:(

SMGLee
01-23-14, 18:11
Most of tjhe product have been existing from 2013, onlything new i notice were the Thermal handheld glass and the IR laser battery module for the 512/552 series.

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SMGLee
01-23-14, 18:25
It seems that Remington Defense continue to have product developed for the market, but as a end customer, very little product are being shipped to the customer. outside of HK, Remington is one of the most closed off company to the general gun market.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120840.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120840.jpg)
New DI gas gun with updated receivers and new free float reail.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120847.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120847.jpg)

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120844.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120844.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120845.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120845.jpg)

Remington also brought out a new pistol that seems to be very interesting for the BUG market. I found it even more interesting then the G42, crisp trigger, good enough for EDC, with decent sights and an egronomic grip. not sure about reliablility, but this holds true, it will give the G42 a run for its money.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120919.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120846.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120920.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120920.jpg)

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120926.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120926.jpg)

SMGLee
01-23-14, 18:25
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120927.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120927.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120928.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120928.jpg)

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SilverBullet432
01-23-14, 18:48
laser looks a lil odd.

SilverBullet432
01-23-14, 18:51
What happened to the MR-C?????????????

SMGLee
01-23-14, 18:59
LWRC brought out something of a oddity piece for LWRC. a DI gas gun to say the least....

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120724.JPG (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120724.JPG)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120714.JPG (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120714.JPG)

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120721.JPG (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120721.JPG)
Interesting how LWRC utilized their one piece piston bolt carrier with the machined in pistol stop/gas key and drill and pinned in a DI gas key for the DI design...

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120720.JPG (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120720.JPG)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120717.JPG (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120717.JPG)

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120731.JPG (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120731.JPG)
Recoil cover gun...the white actually looked awesome andmade me want to use it on planet Hoth against the Imperial Walkers...

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120730.JPG (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120730.JPG)
Big thanks to Adam for taking me around the LWRC booth...

SMGLee
01-23-14, 19:01
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120705.JPG (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120705.JPG)

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ALCOAR
01-23-14, 19:02
Somebody at Remington just gets it in terms of rail design.

That is one helluva sweet rail...the depth, and complexity of it's design is just awesome.

Great pics as always brother, and thanks for posting them :)

dentron
01-23-14, 19:05
Somebody at Remington just gets it in terms of rail design.

That is one helluva sweet rail...the depth, and complexity of it's design is just awesome.

Great pics as always brother, and thanks for posting them :)

Reminds me of the Geissele offerings.

ALCOAR
01-23-14, 19:15
It's a MK1 with more modularity...45 degree steel inserts for rail acc. panels, as well as more built in QD sockets.

The MK1 most likely still has the better barrel nut/lockup design, however I'd love to see the Rem rail broken down.

Tzintzuntzan
01-23-14, 19:29
LWRC sure makes some sweet guns, I'll have to get one of their DI machines and try it out. Hopefully those PDWs are soon to be released. Can't wait to see if they release a 7.62 DI gun.

Tzintzuntzan
01-23-14, 19:33
I can't wait to see if they release that DI gun or the R5. Would be interesting to get a hold of the R51 and see if it's as trusty as a G19.

JLBIII
01-23-14, 19:43
Great pics as usual! Does anyone know if Geissele will be offering their wares in Multi-cam anodizing or was that just a SHOT show display piece?

This is an experimental process that is still being developed by the anodizing company. They did a few test samples in time for us to display at SHOT. Customer response was very positive at the show so it may be offered as an option once the process is finalized.

JB
Geissele Automatics

SMGLee
01-23-14, 19:53
[url=http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120227.JPG]http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120227.JPG
Keymod is the name of the game for Vltor this year, Eric Kincel of the Vltor fame since left Vltor and join company with BCM, but you can still see a lot of Eric's influence in vltor weapon systems

[url=http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120228.JPG]http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120228.JPG

[url=http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120233.JPG]http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120233.JPG

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[url=http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120240.JPG]http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120240.JPG

Tangodown
[url=http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120239.JPG]http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120003.JPG
Newly developed PDW style grip

[url=http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120228.JPG]http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120004.JPG

[url=http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120228.JPG]http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120005.JPG

[url=http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120228.JPG]http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120007.JPG

SMGLee
01-23-14, 20:09
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nickdrak
01-23-14, 20:23
Yikes! They need to nix that stock and grip ASAP!!!

ICANHITHIMMAN
01-23-14, 20:41
Yikes! They need to nix that stock and grip ASAP!!!

I concur but to each his own, Its disappointing we don't see a 308 rifle.

Amur
01-23-14, 21:01
No idea how practical they are, but those PDW's are sure sweet looking!!

mildot
01-23-14, 21:04
I noticed that PDW stock showed up on the TROY PDW's, is that a "joint venture" or is it just out sourced?

scottryan
01-23-14, 21:35
Could someone explain how the support hand will not block the laser integrated into the battery body of the EOTech?

Tzintzuntzan
01-23-14, 21:41
I wouldn't put it past L3 to have not given that an ounce of thought. They did after all make this for the 512/552 sights for some reason so I have my doubts about this system. Now if they also improved the battery terminals so that the batteries can't come loose on the older models, this could do well. Time will tell, I guess.

Tzintzuntzan
01-23-14, 21:44
No idea how practical they are, but those PDW's are sure sweet looking!!

If I remember correctly they were designed as a motorcycle cop/get off me gun. No idea about the stock but I thought the Troy one was like that AAC design whereas this one can't be pulled off by mistake.

Dmaynor
01-23-14, 21:57
was there any release dates on anything like pants or the suits?

RadioActivity
01-23-14, 22:03
I am surprised that it will be keymod only going forward for the civilian side. Especially as KAC is a large military contractor, I would of thought they would be one of the last to move to keymod. I have, until this point, assumed keymod a fad and that it would eventually fade as everything for military contract (and as so much of products in the market are trickled down from military contracts) is utilizing the picatinny format and that is certainly here to stay. In contrast the only thing keeping keymod around is the civilian markets dollars. I still remain skeptical that keymod will last more than 5 years, and I am thinking that picatinny attachments will remain the bulk of the market.

That said...I think keymod is pretty fricken' cool, and would like to be proved wrong.

Further, I think a 14.5'' light weight barrel profile may not be as sexy as the heavy contour ball milled profiles, but for a working gun that is about the pinnacle of design.

Onyx Z
01-23-14, 22:53
Any pics of their new mk12? I'm VERY interested in that puppy!

tctlrld
01-23-14, 23:22
Those M6IC-PDWs are just screaming to be chambered in 300 BLK!

Tzintzuntzan
01-23-14, 23:26
Those M6IC-PDWs are just screaming to be chambered in 300 BLK!

I believe they're only in 5.56 and 6.8 SPC. However there is a 300 BLK DI gun being released but I agree that a 300 BLK version would be pretty slick, as would the option to get a "storm trooper" styled PDW just to have one.

Armati
01-23-14, 23:33
I thought I saw somewhere that the make this in a single laser model. If they make an IR laser only to the right side I am very interested.

PatrioticDisorder
01-24-14, 00:02
SMG are those DI guns standard mid length systems (they appear to be in the pics) or is it some kind of proprietary system? Also are they using a proprietary barrel nut for the DI barrels like they do with their piston guns?

carolvs
01-24-14, 00:07
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120228.JPG

It seems like a great deal of expense and work just to turn the SCAR back into an AR. :confused:

Tzintzuntzan
01-24-14, 00:08
I'm interested in the TD products for the Tavor. Would like to know what they do and what they all are.

PatrioticDisorder
01-24-14, 00:10
I concur but to each his own, Its disappointing we don't see a 308 rifle.

My guess is they have that iron in the fire as we speak and won't be released until DD is satisfied it's a winner... We can always hope for next year!

Tzintzuntzan
01-24-14, 00:14
It seems like a great deal of expense and work just to turn the SCAR back into an AR. :confused:

If only they'd spend the time making a non reciprocating charging handle for the system. I don't see why they wouldn't just improve the original stock design and attaching mechanism. If VLTOR did this and SCARs had Handl lowers then the system would be a lot slicker. Can't wait to see if the Bren Ten comes out in 2015.

mnguyenpdx
01-24-14, 00:43
Anyone know if they are still going to produce the mk4 non keymod rail?

jtb0311
01-24-14, 03:11
I'd ride that lizard like a Tauntaun on Hoth.

shutup&shoot
01-24-14, 05:56
A tactical raptor. Wow, and I thought they were already terrifying.

ralph
01-24-14, 10:03
Interesting pics of the pistol.. Those clear up some questions I had about it. I have read on some other forums, other people who have handled it at SHOT, had complained about not being able to disengage the grip safety reliably, due to the size/shape of their hands. Remington may at some point need to put some sort of a memory bump on the grip safety.. It's a interesting design, I guess we'll see how well it holds up once these start selling..

1911-A1
01-24-14, 10:37
Yikes! They need to nix that stock and grip ASAP!!!

I'd have to handle it and see for myself first.

SMGLee
01-24-14, 13:09
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120290.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120290.jpg)
AAC showed off thier line of suppressors in 556...L to R: SR5, M4-2000, 5.56SD
Modeled by the world famous Mike Mers

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120291.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120291.jpg)
AAC showed off thier line of suppressors in 762...L to R: SR7, 762SDN6, 7.62SD

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120294.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120294.jpg)
The newly revised SD5/7 follow the original SD5/7 design that appeared a few years ago with a even higher teeth count, 91T and notice the tappered flange at the end to help with carbon getting tot he locking teeth to prevent gunk up.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120295.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120295.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120297.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120297.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120299.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120299.jpg)
Difference in the standard 51t and the new 91t, agfaion you can see the anti gunk flange in front of the teeth on the new design.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120300.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120300.jpg)
SR5 and the M4-2000

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120301.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120301.jpg)
The new 556SD is in interesting development on AAC's part. The 556SD is simpler in design, slightly longer and slightly heavier and it have a slightly lower sound reduction, but it is easier to machine, takes less time in manufacturing in return it is lower in cost, retail around 800.00 it is the lowest cost QD suppressor on the market for AAC.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120302.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120302.jpg)
AAC updated the Brakeout....

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120303.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120303.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120306.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120306.jpg)
762SDN6 vs the updated SR7


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120307.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120307.jpg)
in the same concept as the 556SD, the new 762Sd is an entry level powerhouse..
Top to bottom: 762SD, 762SDN6, SR7

SMGLee
01-24-14, 13:14
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120315.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120315.jpg)
AAC will be coming out with a 556 rifle to supplement their 300blackout limne of carbine/rifles.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120316.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120316.jpg)

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120310.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120310.jpg)
AAC inhouse suppressor ready Glock 21 barreel.

SMGLee
01-24-14, 13:18
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120146.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120146.jpg)
Midwest Industry will be coming to market with a billet receiver 5.56 rifle.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120149.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120149.jpg)

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Tavor Keymod rail handguard...first for this platform.

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SMGLee
01-24-14, 13:21
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Keymod rail for AK platform

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JustG45
01-24-14, 13:30
Thank you for sharing

Hwikek
01-24-14, 13:42
I like how the SR5 seems shorter and maybe lighter than the M4-2000. Hopefully these will get out to dealers soon.

SMGLee
01-24-14, 14:02
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Very cool lightweight carbon fiber free float handguard.

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Troy's entry level flip up iron sight, front and rear available soon. This is a prototype version so the spring is a bit loose and the lockl up is not as positive, so the sight isn't laid flat on the receiver.

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Razorhunter
01-24-14, 14:06
What, if any, changes have been made to the MOD2 as compare to the MOD1's? Aside from the URX4, and gas block it uses? I know they've removed the qd swivel ports from the lower and gone to the mount behind the castle nut, but even some mod1's had that. Any other changes?

I'll always like the 3.1 rail, but keymod is kind of interesting. Not a dealbreaker, but I've yet to see a keymod rail panel I like yet. I'll have to review some more pics, but would most keymod rail panels on the market lend themselves well to stippling as most polymer accessories do nowadays? IOW's, they're not too thin are they??

SMGLee
01-24-14, 14:07
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Troy Ind is currently offering a program for active and retired law enforcement officers, you can contact Joe Gajcevic at joe(AT)worldoftroy(DOT)com for your Troy weapon platform requirements. They offer competitive rates and customized configuration for specific individual or department requirements.

harm
01-24-14, 14:58
I like that carbon fiber hand guards!

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SMGLee
01-24-14, 14:59
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SMGLee
01-24-14, 15:00
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tctlrld
01-24-14, 15:50
I actually do sort of like the MPX. Did they mention anything about factory SBRs?

tctlrld
01-24-14, 15:56
I am surprised that it will be keymod only going forward for the civilian side.


This. Huge KAC fan, own a few Mod 1 5.56 guns and an ECC. While I do appreciate keymod (have a Noveske NSR railed rifle) and I think the URX4 is great, I would like to see the URX3.1 remain a standard option.
Better yet, do a hybrid URX3.1 with keymod slots on the flats.

coastwatcher42
01-24-14, 16:25
I'm glad to see that MI is bringing a complete rifle to market. I have several of their accessories and the quality is top notch at a reasonable price.

Onyx Z
01-24-14, 17:00
What's the point of adding more teeth on the QD? 18t, then 51t, now 90t?

Failure2Stop
01-24-14, 17:12
This. Huge KAC fan, own a few Mod 1 5.56 guns and an ECC. While I do appreciate keymod (have a Noveske NSR railed rifle) and I think the URX4 is great, I would like to see the URX3.1 remain a standard option.
Better yet, do a hybrid URX3.1 with keymod slots on the flats.

A lot of different variations were tossed around, but in the end it was decided that a narrow product range would simplify and speed up production to meet demand.

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gadget
01-24-14, 17:36
SMGLee always a pleasure to see you at our booth at Shot Show and thank you for the great pictures of our products, our new program is called "American Gunfighter" and covers LE/MIL both active duty and retired. It will go into full effect February 17, 2014 and for those with any questions please send me a PM or email me at joe(AT)worldoftroy(DOT)com. The program will consist of 4 carbines that we have selected for purchase to those that are eligible, we will be posting more details as we come to our full launch date. If you have a specific department need just send me the information and we can discuss your specific requirements...

gadget

scatsob
01-24-14, 17:45
The URX4 is actually growing on my especially since seeing pictures of the production APC. And those keymod iron sights are dead sexy.

SMGLee
01-24-14, 18:04
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Surefire free float rail system......

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Twist lock rail section, kind of remind me of the old ARMS SIR locking screws

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Rail opening are designed to utilize the Scout clamp mount.

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v

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a more streamlined rail clamp mount. push button rail clamp with locking button.

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Cross bar style lock for the push button clamp.

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SMGLee
01-24-14, 18:08
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Surefire 22 can with disassemblying tool

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JLBIII
01-24-14, 18:17
Anyone know if they are still going to produce the mk4 non keymod rail?

As of right now, all future MK4 and MK5 rails will only be keymods.

JB
Geissele Automatics

NongShim
01-24-14, 19:08
The handguard does look awesome, but it's not like a Geissele-it's like a Remington. Geissele didn't invent the wheel when he came out with his handguard; he improved on HK's design. After making his HK handguard, he used the same barrel nut and attachment method to use on regular/legacy ARs. Remington also responded to the solicitation and produced the RAHG for the HK416. Since both were making handguards for a specific gun with a specific set of specs and a unique attachment method, the two were bound to have similarities. If anything, Remington is taking more design cues from JP, as JP helped Remington make the RSASS. Pretty much all the rifles that Remington Military produces that aren't legacy systems use this JP inspired/produced handguard. The MSR, the XM2010, the R5 and the ACR all have similar handguards to the RSASS. The RAHG looks similar as well. This new handguard looks much more like what's on the MSR and 2010 than anything Geissele produced. So what if it has an HK style attachment and likely a similar barrel nut, Geissele didn't invent it. This isn't a bash on Bill Geissele or his company. I have his handguard on my HK. I also have a lot of his triggers. I love his products, but he isn't Moses. Noveske, BCM and others with toothless barrel nuts didn't copy him either.

The R51 looks like a rad pistol to have. I'll also second the desire for the R5. I pretty much want this thread.

SMGLee
01-24-14, 19:13
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Hunting is the next untapped market for the NV industry, TNVC leading the way to promote FLIR to the hunting market with a specially dedicated team to support the customers.

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BNVD is one of the best bang for the dollar BNVG on the market, good enough for LAPD Metro SWAT to adapt them

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Adams Ind. newly released BNVG

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120525.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120525.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120532.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120532.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120534.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120534.jpg)

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120528.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120528.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120537.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120537.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120538.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120538.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120539.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120539.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120540.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120540.jpg)

SMGLee
01-24-14, 19:15
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120530.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120530.jpg)
Adjustable iris len cap

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120543.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120543.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120544.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120544.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120545.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120545.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120542.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120542.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120546.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120546.jpg)

SMGLee
01-24-14, 19:22
Unity Tactical a new upstart comopany with some very innovation designs.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120475.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120475.jpg)
Extremely well thought out modular front sight mounting platform, lights, laser, front sight can all be setup in a tidy package.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120476.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120476.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120478.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120478.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120479.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120479.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120480.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120480.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120489.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120489.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120490.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120490.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120491.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120491.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120492.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120492.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120481.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120481.jpg)
Modualr Scope mount with option for various add on accessories.


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120483.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120483.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120484.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120484.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120485.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120485.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120469.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120469.jpg)
Contour helmet mount.


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120512.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120512.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120504.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120504.jpg)
Co-Developed with TNVC, the integrated light mount for the Laser Device CQBL-1 laser module.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120505.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120505.jpg)

SMGLee
01-24-14, 19:23
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120495.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120495.jpg)
Unity ATM, an aftermarket Glock slide with building optical mount so you do not have to modify your own slide for better resell value down the road.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120496.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120496.jpg)
Modular design to fit various Mini Red dot systems.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120498.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120498.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120500.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120500.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120501.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120501.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120503.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120503.jpg)

SMGLee
01-24-14, 19:45
So you know that Raven concealment is the company that stareted the pancake holster trend, but do you know they make Aimpoint T1 mount?

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130064.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130064.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130065.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130065.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130056.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130056.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130057.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130057.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130058.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130058.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130059.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130059.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130060.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130060.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130061.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130061.jpg)


And not to mention the coolest IFAK kit money can buy, size is no bigger than a ice cream sandwich, all med component inside is miniaturized instead of the usual shrink wrapped like the others to give a ture personalized IFAK kit that does not take up precious real estate on your body.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130071.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130071.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130072.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130072.jpg)

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130069.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130069.jpg)

SMGLee
01-24-14, 20:15
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120886.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120886.jpg)
In my opinion....this is one of the best BUIS on the market, its slim, low profile, ligth weight, full of adjustments, and low cost...not to mention its made of steel

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120887.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120887.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120888.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120888.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120891.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120891.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120917.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120917.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120918.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120918.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120915.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120915.jpg)
Others ha ve the steel flash mount, but Magpul came out with this low cost polymer off sit flash mount for 1" light and Surefire Scout....well designed and priced just right.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120914.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120914.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120907.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120907.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120908.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120908.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120912.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120912.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120899.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120899.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120899.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120899.jpg)
AK47 magazine......

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120900.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120900.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120901.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120901.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120902.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120902.jpg)

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http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120906.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120906.jpg)

SMGLee
01-24-14, 20:17
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120898.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120898.jpg)
Who da!!

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120895.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120895.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120896.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120896.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120897.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120897.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120883.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120883.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120894.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120894.jpg)
Big thanks to Lance for showing me the latest and greatest from Magpul....

SeriousStudent
01-24-14, 20:25
Hmmmmm. I have a spare H-1.....

Neat pics. Thanks for the heads up, I might just snag one of those Aimpoint mounts to play with. The FAK looks very handy as well.

superstratjunky
01-24-14, 20:35
Damn fine stuff from MagPul. Got any picks of the AK's stock, or better yet the whole rifle? That grip alone cleans up the lines on that AK. :cool:

SMGLee
01-24-14, 20:44
For the gear queer in all of us, the best and the coolest speciality gear manufacture in the world...WILCOX

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120934.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120934.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120935.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120935.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120936.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120936.jpg)
Quadeye mount will provide the end user with endless options...you can switch between a helmet mounted battery source, or the battery inside the unit. the ball joint will turn off the unit as soon as you flip the quadeye away from you eyes. infinite adjustment to every shape ansd size head.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120937.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120937.jpg)
Toggle switch the swtich between power source

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120939.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120939.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120940.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120940.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120942.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120942.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120943.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120943.jpg)
Newest shroud from Wilcox, this new shroud will fit either a one hole or three hole helmet.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120944.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120944.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120945.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120945.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120946.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120946.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120947.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120947.jpg)
OEM Team Wendy shroud to fit the unique helmet shape.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120948.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120948.jpg)
RAPTAR IR laser designator marketed by PRG....they are a title sponsor on M4C.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120949.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120949.jpg)
the RAPTAR work just like the PEQ15 but also added the ability to range your target.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120950.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120950.jpg)
QD mount

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120951.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120951.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120960.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120960.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120961.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120961.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120959.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120959.jpg)

SMGLee
01-24-14, 20:50
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120954.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120954.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120956.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120956.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120957.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120957.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120958.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120958.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120972.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120972.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120962.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120962.jpg)
Patriot rebreather systems..

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120973.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120973.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120968.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120968.jpg)
Digitally controlled and monitored...it can also be monitored by remote wireless connection so the command staff can monitor the well being of each operator in action.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120963.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120963.jpg)
Switching control to switcht he unit to different breathing mode.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120970.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120970.jpg)
Each individual 30 minutes oxygen tank can be swtiched out for a torch unit.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120971.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120971.jpg)
Extra hose outlet for using an additional gas mask

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120967.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120967.jpg)
Added mask for rescue operation or a down team mate

mattexass
01-24-14, 20:51
Wow that mount looks interesting. Not that it should really matter but I wonder how the short iron sight radius plays out. Do they make a plug for where the front used to be?

SMGLee
01-24-14, 21:06
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120449.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120449.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120450.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120450.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120451.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120451.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120452.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120452.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120453.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120453.jpg)
Priced at 1100.00, but the barrel is not hammer forged...standard button rifling, 1:7 MP tested.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120455.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120455.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120456.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120456.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120459.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120459.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120458.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120458.jpg)

SMGLee
01-24-14, 21:08
So the hoopla is about the Glock 42...I actually think it is a very nice 380, for those that want a 380 BUG, this is a very reliable and very compact light weight package.


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120460.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120460.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120461.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120461.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120462.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120462.jpg)
Compare to a G17 for size

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120463.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120463.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120464.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120464.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120465.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120465.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120466.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120466.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120467.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120467.jpg)

JPB
01-24-14, 21:36
So is the six/twelve double action?

Dave L.
01-24-14, 21:36
I hope they offer that grip in at least 4 different angles so I can read hundreds of posts about which angle is the best. :no:

CHF 308 Barrels please...

vincentk
01-24-14, 21:42
What's with that texture...

SeriousStudent
01-24-14, 21:44
Wow that mount looks interesting. Not that it should really matter but I wonder how the short iron sight radius plays out. Do they make a plug for where the front used to be?

I'm not SMGLee, but I think it would be a very simple process to take one of the seventeen cent plastic Glock factory front sights, and file it down as a filler. I actually think I have some old ones in my parts bins.

Make ya a deal: PM me a photo of your sales receipt for the RCS mount, and I'll mail you a Glock plastic front sight for free. ;)

mattexass
01-24-14, 21:52
Make ya a deal: PM me a photo of your sales receipt for the RCS mount, and I'll mail you a Glock plastic front sight for free. ;)

Haha no thanks. I am just curious.

GotAmmo
01-24-14, 22:03
I'm interested in the Aid Kit

SMGLee
01-25-14, 00:09
SMG are those DI guns standard mid length systems (they appear to be in the pics) or is it some kind of proprietary system? Also are they using a proprietary barrel nut for the DI barrels like they do with their piston guns?

It is a standard mid length......

carolvs
01-25-14, 01:15
Did they mention if they'll be selling their DI BCG to the aftermarket?

1911-A1
01-25-14, 01:28
Looks like the Vltor AR adapter tube with possibly a MOE stock installed.

Tzintzuntzan
01-25-14, 03:49
It is a standard mid length......

That is awesome. Can't wait to get my hands on one.

Tzintzuntzan
01-25-14, 03:50
Did they mention if they'll be selling their DI BCG to the aftermarket?

I remember seeing on the LWRC forum that they are for sale but are like $230 each.

mark5pt56
01-25-14, 07:15
Liking the MS1 sling, need to pick one up to try out. You what would be cool is for someone to design a screw in QD swivel attachment for guns using the standard swivel stud. It would avoid having flush cups installed and be user installed.

albatrossarmament
01-25-14, 07:15
More positive lock-up

mark5pt56
01-25-14, 07:23
I would just leave the front sight on, no worries. I do like the first aid kit. I wonder if they plan on a Fast Fire III mount in the same manner? I'm looking for a mount for the G20. I like the no mod mount like this and includes the back up sights. You all remember the Bob Munden video where he shoots at 600 with a snubbie? The short sight radius just makes alignment more critical.

matemike
01-25-14, 08:31
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120302.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120302.jpg)
AAC updated the Brakeout....

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120303.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120303.jpg)



I see the slight cosmetic difference, but is there a functionality improvement?

krm375
01-25-14, 10:32
Any sight of the PMAG 25 LR for 7.62?

Razorhunter
01-25-14, 11:52
APC??

scatsob
01-25-14, 12:56
Advanced precision carbine. I thinks it will be the first of the E2 guns available.

http://www.knightarmco.com/sr-25-e2-advanced-precision-carbine-2/?cate_cm=commercial&term=sr-25&features=sr-25-e2-advanced-precision-carbine

APC??

jonconsiglio
01-25-14, 14:01
The URX4 is actually growing on my especially since seeing pictures of the production APC. And those keymod iron sights are dead sexy.

Pictures really don't do the keymod rails any favors. I wasn't never a big fan from the pics, but seeing them in person and handling them, they really grew on me.

I was content with the 8" URX 3 on my 9" blackout, but the URX 4 8.5" might be a good choice as it gives me a full inch extra on the bottom and even though it'll extend just over the rear of the mount, it still won't be too long. I'm not running a suppressor at this point, but am interested in the 7.62 CQB. I saw a rifle at their booth with the rail extended over the suppressor, but not sure if the 7.62 mount will work with my set up and the 8.5" URX 4. Obviously it would work with KAC's 9.5" barrel though.

carolvs
01-25-14, 14:08
I remember seeing on the LWRC forum that they are for sale but are like $230 each.

Not bad -- it is competitive with the various NiB BCG's out there, and much less than the LMT e-BCG that I am planning to buy.

Brahmzy
01-25-14, 14:52
So more unobtainium - cool. :(

Razorhunter
01-25-14, 15:34
Back on pg 1, in SMG's 12th and 13th pics down from top, what is the reasoning behind the entire URX4 being made to completely separate like that? This solely for gas block install/acces purpose, or to simply extend your rail if so desired (doubtful), ???
Most interesting.
Finally, is this feature seen on all URX4's, or just some of the longer rails? Maybe I just missed it, but I don't recall seeing this detachable system/feature in Jacks' install vid a while back. It was probably there and I just overlooked it....?

hjmpanzr
01-25-14, 17:22
Back on pg 1, in SMG's 12th and 13th pics down from top, what is the reasoning behind the entire URX4 being made to completely separate like that? This solely for gas block install/acces purpose, or to simply extend your rail if so desired (doubtful), ???
Most interesting.
Finally, is this feature seen on all URX4's, or just some of the longer rails? Maybe I just missed it, but I don't recall seeing this detachable system/feature in Jacks' install vid a while back. It was probably there and I just overlooked it....?

The detachable feature is not on any URX 4 out in the wild. I've got a 13" U4.

rapomstage3
01-25-14, 17:28
It seems like the new "gas system" is really just to accomadate the urx 4's terrible mounting. I'm sure it's not worse but I would like to see just how much better it is. If I take off my 3.1 it's getting a kmr for sure. As a factory rifle I think it's as fine an option as the mod1, so long as you don't want to change the handguard out.

thumbbreak
01-25-14, 17:35
Awesome. I can't wait to get that UCIW setup in 300 Blackout (DI).

jonconsiglio
01-25-14, 17:38
The detachable feature is not on any URX 4 out in the wild. I've got a 13" U4.

How are you liking the URX 4 so far?

thumbbreak
01-25-14, 17:50
There used to be a time where I cared about what Remington introduced at SHOT, but now, they are so behind the innovation curve, I could really care less. The debacle with the ACR has destroyed the holdings under that umbrella.

thumbbreak
01-25-14, 18:03
I've already called my SIG rep on the MPX. He said its going to be April at the earliest but they will be flowing at that point. Woooo Hoooo!

hjmpanzr
01-25-14, 18:40
How are you liking the URX 4 so far?

I will say that I strongly prefer the KAC URX 4 to the NSR or to any other keymod I have encountered. However, I have not handled BCMs. It feels like it has a wider diameter than the NSR and I like feel of it. I haven't had any issues with heat while shooting suppressed although I did pick up KAC's keymod rail covers.

In comparing it with the 3.1, I'm still getting used to it. However, it continues to grow on me.

I have it on a KAC 14.5 upper. I also have a stock KAC 14.5 Carbine with the 3.1. I still slightly prefer the 3.1 just because hand placement and controls are automatic for me. That said, I now live in a state where it gets fairly cold so I haven't shot it nearly as much as the 14.5" with the 3.1 and I'm still waiting on some accessories (particularly the surefire scout mount). I'm really looking forward to setting up a 500 lum scout ultra. I will not have the same space restrictions (mount to muzzle) as I do with the 3.1 on a 14.5". I'll be able to position it completely out of the way and use the SR07 switch.

Moreover, everyone that has either hefted the rifle with the U4 or has shot it - I mean every single person including my wife - not only prefers, but strongly prefers the U4. She actually made a comment along the lines of "not bad" which coming from her about a gun is a ringing endorsement. She seemed to even prefer it to the KAC 11.5 with the URX 3.1, which had been her preference because of weight. I am considering putting a 10" U4 on an 11.5 but I understand that KAC plans to come out with a U4 that's 10.75" (same length as their 3.1 midlength) which I would prefer.

Having handled an 8" URX 3, I would go for the 8.5" U4 but I'm not sure about the issue with your mount being slightly under the rail. That said, I don't think it's an issue if you are not running a suppressor and it's only the rear of the mount. There's a photo of Costa floating around of him running a MAMS on a KAC 14.5" 300 blk with a 14.5" U4 rail. I personally wouldn't opt for that set up, but I'm sure he has his reasons.

Bottom line is that it's growing on me and there are some real advantages with the U4. The only thing I do not like about it is that I had to swap my pinned KAC gas block for a screw gas block. But that's a psychological thing. I'm not a door kicker and I've never had a screw gas block come loose (but I've only had KAC and Centurion Arms). Moreover, the word is that Jack has figured out some way to install the U4 and be able to retain the pinned gas block. I wish he would post another video ....

tctlrld
01-25-14, 20:32
I believe they're only in 5.56 and 6.8 SPC. However there is a 300 BLK DI gun being released but I agree that a 300 BLK version would be pretty slick, as would the option to get a "storm trooper" styled PDW just to have one.

I just want a 300 BLK in that PDW style. I couldn't give two shits about Piston, in fact I would prefer DI. Did they confirm they're doing a factory SBR PDW in 300 BLK?

thumbbreak
01-25-14, 20:44
They showed one at the 2012 SHOT show. If you go to the LWRC Forum, they have some stuff on there about it.

Salsantini
01-25-14, 21:09
Thanks for the pics. The IC SBR with the standard stock is on my list for this year. In fact I asked my local FFL to order me one. Can't wait. Is that an 8" or 10" barrel on the SBR?

leibermuster
01-25-14, 23:55
Awesome pictures, love that 417 with ambi features, prefer the KAC ambi features better but love the HK package and especially the 417 in 12.5.

Armati
01-26-14, 00:30
I'm curious at the near ubiquity of FDE. Is anyone actually buying it aside from US civilians at this point?

Actually...

Everything the US Army buys now is suppose to be tan.

That aside, man, the Germans have an obsession with complexity.

OMEGA9000
01-26-14, 03:31
Any chance the RAHG rail will be released to the civilian market?

Tzintzuntzan
01-26-14, 03:58
Any sight of the PMAG 25 LR for 7.62?

I'd also like to know about this, since my uncle is looking to get a DPMS pattern gun in the not too distant future. Would be nice for him, and myself included, to have access to mags that provide a little more "oomph".

TF82
01-26-14, 04:31
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?105934-Remington-s-new-RAHG-Tubular-Hand-Guard

At this point, I'm certainly not holding my breath.

OMEGA9000
01-26-14, 10:02
That is a damn shame, they have some decent products that people actually want. I can't imagine a company that would pass up on money, but they continue to do it.

scatsob
01-26-14, 10:21
The 417 is a nice looking weapon. Wish they would just make them compatible with KAC pattern mags like everyone else.

leibermuster
01-26-14, 11:33
The 417 is a nice looking weapon. Wish they would just make them compatible with KAC pattern mags like everyone else.
I actually prefer the 417 mags myself and there better for the HK piston design...I think SPURR developed a lower for KAC/AR10 mags!


h ttp://www.spuhr.com/hk417.html

leibermuster
01-26-14, 12:09
I find the Keymod system looks great and I think KAC did a great job on their version but no way I'm running out to buy this yet, not for a years at least.

HKGuns
01-26-14, 12:10
H&K in my opinion has the Keymod orientation right. I'm no expert but someone needs to explain why other manufacturers would not be doing the same as H&K with the smaller end of the hole towards the rear. Recoil impulse dictates this is the way to go.

I don't know who is correct, but with the HK's configured the other way, VLTOR and others have to be a bit worried they got it backwards. I suppose we'll have to wait and see if crap starts falling off one or the other in the near future.


Wish they would just make them compatible with KAC pattern mags like everyone else.

I don't care what mags they use as long as they work and I have no feeding or other issues with the proprietary HK magazines on my MR762. This doesn't appear to be the case with other 762 AR platforms. (Ruger)

jonconsiglio
01-26-14, 12:26
H&K in my opinion has the Keymod orientation right. I'm no expert but someone needs to explain why other manufacturers would not be doing the same as H&K with the smaller end of the hole towards the rear. Recoil impulse dictates this is the way to go.

I need to hold off buying a new rail for my Gen 1 SR15-E3

We push forward when we mount out optics, IR lasers and lights. It makes sense that we'd push forward to mount our kit on the keymod as well. Considering the only thing most will be mounting with the keymod will be lights, panels/grips and maybe a QD socket, I think it'll be ok regardless of orientation.

I don't see it being an issue at all with recoil. Now, a keymod vert grip I'm not sure about. I use a lot of rearward force on vert grips when shouldering my rifles, so that would be my only concern...... and even then it's not a concern but more like curiosity.

glocktogo
01-26-14, 12:41
Very interesting lower on the AR. I'd like to handle one in person.

scatsob
01-26-14, 13:11
Too bad they will never sell the 417A2 or G28E here in the states in the form we see in the pictures.

OMEGA9000
01-26-14, 13:24
It looks like a semi-auto receiver... I wonder if that means they will be releasing it to the general public.

leibermuster
01-26-14, 14:31
Actually they will. Just not for another 3+years.


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Trajan
01-26-14, 14:59
H&K in my opinion has the Keymod orientation right. I'm no expert but someone needs to explain why other manufacturers would not be doing the same as H&K with the smaller end of the hole towards the rear. Recoil impulse dictates this is the way to go.

I need to hold off buying a new rail for my Gen 1 SR15-E3

One time when I did not have my light completely tight inside of it's mount, in recoil it was moving forward.

The impulse of the bolt was greater than the recoil itself.

scatsob
01-26-14, 15:23
Haha, is that a general rule at HK. Show stuff at shot then make it available after everyone has forgotten about it or there is something better? Not bashing, just doesn't make sense.


Actually they will. Just not for another 3+years.


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KevinB
01-26-14, 15:29
Back on pg 1, in SMG's 12th and 13th pics down from top, what is the reasoning behind the entire URX4 being made to completely separate like that? This solely for gas block install/acces purpose, or to simply extend your rail if so desired (doubtful), ???
Most interesting.
Finally, is this feature seen on all URX4's, or just some of the longer rails? Maybe I just missed it, but I don't recall seeing this detachable system/feature in Jacks' install vid a while back. It was probably there and I just overlooked it....?

Mainly for longer barreled guns -- we put the extender on a 20" 7.62 gun - and it goes to the same spot as the normal rail on the 16"
- key for folks who like to run lasers etc out far on the rail.

The Gas System was not designed for URX4 - the gas system was designed to defeat the failures of standard gas tube/gas block link up.
Look at a lot of guns that use conventional gas tube setup -- the gas bleed heavily around the block, so you either need to seal it - or run an excessive gas port to defeat the leak...

The system was designed primary for reliability and government armorer ease of support to the system. Yes its unique - however the block alignment method and the method of retension goes back to the old SR-25 Match Rifles - the old 24" guns.
We wanted to get away from Taper Pins as well due to the accuracy impact that can have.

URX4 attachment method simply came from our IBN Rail that we submitted for the ARMY M4PIP FRAK. We noticed in testing that the internal barrel nut was superior to other methods, we tried a few others with the URX4 Prototypes - but the IBN system was superior for alignment and rigidity.

JoshNC
01-26-14, 15:30
I actually prefer the 417 mags myself and there better for the HK piston design...I think SPURR developed a lower for KAC/AR10 mags!


h ttp://www.spuhr.com/hk417.html

As of now I don't believe Håkan has any plans to sell these in the US, assuming they could even be imported, which I don't believe they would. I would love to have one.

KevinB
01-26-14, 15:44
I love the MG-5 and MG-4 Charging Handle -- something I wish every MG company would do -- the ability to lock the bolt midway in-case of some sort of stoppage...
Genius. Every time I see it, I just wonder why it took that long for someone to do.

Cagemonkey
01-26-14, 17:52
Any news on the ACR or is it dead?

Grip
01-26-14, 19:10
When can i order a keymod handstop?

ejskle
01-26-14, 20:17
These look great. The URX4 and SR-15 Mod 2 are just about everything I was hoping they'd be (pending further comparisons with the KMR). The only disappointing thing is that being in MA (where no threaded barrels are allowed), I'd have to get one with a pinned and welded muzzle device, which I'd rather do on a 14.5 instead of a 16", so too bad that's going away as an option.

Plasman
01-26-14, 20:29
When can i order a keymod handstop?

You could always get the IWC one if you don't want to wait. I have a couple and like them.

LibertyNeverDies
01-26-14, 20:46
Every year it seems like I see a Remington AR that I would like to own but its never brought to market.

LibertyNeverDies
01-26-14, 21:00
Will someone be making holsters for the 6 second mount that will be available to civilians?

Grip
01-26-14, 21:14
You could always get the IWC one if you don't want to wait. I have a couple and like them.

I want the KAC handstop.

Turnkey11
01-26-14, 22:56
Wow, those suppressors are sexy.

If only they were available...

Kataquan
01-26-14, 23:45
I don't like the in your face white engraving on the lower.

Iraqgunz
01-27-14, 00:09
I am 99% sure I was told by one of the higher ups (not a rep) that roll mark will be stamped into the receiver, not the white engraving you see now.


I don't like the in your face white engraving on the lower.

Pesty0311
01-27-14, 09:29
Will the 6 sec fit the compacts as well?

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thehun
01-27-14, 09:48
I cannot wait for the carbon hand guard to be released for my 516. It has been a tack driver but I hate the factory quad rail...there is hope finally :)

thehun
01-27-14, 09:51
Price point on the new low cost sights?

jonconsiglio
01-27-14, 10:59
Nice touch with the notch above the smaller aperture on the sights.

chainring
01-27-14, 11:22
Lovely, thanks for the pics!!!

Brahmzy
01-27-14, 15:13
Their video interview said $150 on the new aluminum sights "lighter than competitor's polymer sights."

I need 4 pairs of 'em ASAP.

Shiz
01-27-14, 19:47
I am not sure why companies are doing keymods with non detachable picatinny at the muzzle end. Seems like the only thing you could mount on the keymods would be rail covers.

Kain
01-27-14, 20:02
Okay, the new rears are perhaps the first thing from the shot shot that I have gone, "I must have!" Would like to know cost of just the rear, am highly interested. If it locks up and down like their current offerings it just might replace a DD rear I have on one rifle.

Brahmzy
01-27-14, 20:33
I am not sure why companies are doing keymods with non detachable picatinny at the muzzle end. Seems like the only thing you could mount on the keymods would be rail covers.

I don't get this either. It's either a freakin' keymod rail, or it isn't - make up your mind. They're killing the appeal / weight savings etc. I do like the rear integrated QD mounts, which both the NS & BCM KMR don't have. You're forced to do an add-on further forward than where it should be and it sticks out as well.

HeadHunter
01-27-14, 23:59
There were so many AR accessories at SHOT that I couldn't possibly count them all. I tried to pick out some useful ones that fly under the radar.

http://exm.nr/1lhD6RS

thumbbreak
01-28-14, 12:55
Any news on the ACR or is it dead?

Its available from Bushmaster but none of the "accessories" ever came to fruition. No short barrels, no 300 Blackout, etc. It never progressed to the level that MagPul had intended. Freakin' waste!

Arctic1
01-28-14, 15:10
Bushmaster does not manufacture the ACR, Remington Defense does. And yes, there is a PDW version of the ACR available. The ACR can come with different rails and different barrel lengths. It is also available in a fixed stock or folding stock model

I just spent all of last week taking the Remington Defense Armorer and Operator Course, and I can testify that the rail is very sweet. So is the ACR. And the MSR. And the RSASS.

The guys who run the Mil/LE side of Remington are good guys who have tons of experience, and they are continously trying to improve on their products.

As far as product availability goes, for them it is a question of prioritizing work. I asked about the HK416 rail, and they said they could make it, but they aren't going to prioritize that over another product unless the quantity is there.

For the sake of full disclosure, I am the agent for Remington Defense in Norway (my company, that is).

thumbbreak
01-28-14, 15:19
Bushmaster does not manufacture the ACR, Remington Defense does.

I just spent all of last week taking the Remington Defense Armorer and Operator Course, and I can testify that the rail is very sweet. So is the ACR. And the MSR. And the RSASS.

The guys who run the Mil/LE side of Remington are good guys who have tons of experience, and they are continously trying to improve on their products.

As far as product availability goes, for them it is a question of prioritizing work. I asked about the HK416 rail, and they said they could make it, but they aren't going to prioritize that over another product unless the quantity is there.

It is "available" through Bushmaster. Its commercial branding says Bushmaster. I am fully aware of the company affiliations. The point was nothing has come to the marketplace other than the basic ACR and a folding stock & metal handguard for the basic ACR. It is a commercial clusterf**k and they still have no customers on the LE/Mil side. SHOT show prototypes are not production; they are a tease.

Be advised, I say this as a guy who only buys Remington Hunting firearms. Love the company but their "priorities" are not providing the ACR platform discussed in the last 5 SHOT shows. My guess is, they never will.

A Link for your reference. Same page for the last 3 years....

http://www.bushmaster.com/acr/#/intro

Arctic1
01-28-14, 15:45
Ok.

We just covered Remington Defense, none of the commercial products or other Freedom Group products, except for some trainer guns from DPMS that we used for disassembly during the armorer part.

thumbbreak
01-28-14, 16:11
Roger That.

SMGLee
01-29-14, 14:28
One of the best piston manufacture in the industry, they rarely get the publicity as they should....PWS booth at SHOT

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120980.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120980.jpg)
Cool little cut away gun that is functional...check out the cool video link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j_jMVynheY)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120980.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120980.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120981.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120981.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120982.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120982.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120991.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120991.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120993.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120993.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120994.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120994.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120980.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120980.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120995.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120995.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120997.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120997.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120998.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120998.jpg)
With the new Keymod rail, PWS have provided a cut out on the rial for you to make adjustment to the gas regulator.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120987.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120987.jpg)
The PWS Keymod rail is also available for the direct gas guns.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120988.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120988.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1120989.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120989.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130025.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130025.jpg)
Besides making the Keymod rail available for the DI gas crowd, they are also releasing their barrel for the DI gas gun, maybe a DI gas gun from PWS is not too far away. the barrel is Chrome Moly button rifled, 1:8 twist, 223 Wylde chambered, M4 feed ramp, finished with Isonite QPQ treatment.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130019.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130019.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130020.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1130020.jpg)

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130024.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120980.jpg)
Slick Keymod bi-pod attachment. low profile and simple to the point design.

SMGLee
01-29-14, 14:32
http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130002.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120980.jpg)
PWS branching out into the bolt action precision rifle market.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130003.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120980.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130004.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120980.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130007.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120980.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130008.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120980.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130013.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120980.jpg)
Newly released Triad flash hider with SilenerCo suppressor mount.

http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130010.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120980.jpg)


http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/large/P1130009.jpg (http://photos.imageevent.com/smglee/shot2014/huge/P1120980.jpg)
Random SHOT show picture....

tb-av
01-29-14, 15:17
What are those plastic things? The blue, black orange?

sevin8nin
01-29-14, 15:38
What are those plastic things? The blue, black orange?

Look like tourniquet holders to me

ICANHITHIMMAN
01-29-14, 15:49
What booth were they giving away the bags in the last pic and is it to late?

jonconsiglio
01-29-14, 17:01
Look like tourniquet holders to me

Yeah, and those are a slick idea. Low profile but protects the TQ from the elements.