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jc75754
07-02-08, 10:07
I own 2 shotguns one Sears pump passed down to me by my grandfather and a maverick. Both of these are pumps therefore very reliable. Now that I am becoming more tactically oriented I want an auto-loading shotgun and I have come across the Saiga 12. It is based on the AK which I own and have had very few failures in this tried and true design. now to the problem at hand. How reliable are these guns as compared to other auto-loading shotguns, on a zombie slaying scale of 1-10 how efficient would they be, and finally how easy would it be to add accessories such as a folding stock, shortened barrel? Would it be just like the AK just on a 12 gauge scale? also if you have one please post a picture i need ideas if i decide to purchase one and please add if you sent it off to customize it or did it yourself.

thanks

Scattergun
07-02-08, 18:29
I can't help you much on the building part, I bought a TROMIX. I love mine. on your scale of 1-10, I would give it a 9. They suffer the same shortfalls as the AK. Safety location and the lack of a magazine well

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/allproblemsolved/guns/Saigaandshorty2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/allproblemsolved/Videos/th_Saiga-124intheair-1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v682/allproblemsolved/Videos/?action=view&current=Saiga-124intheair-1.flv)

h8mtv
07-02-08, 21:27
I will have to take some pics. It is a traditional conversion with the stock forearm and a US wood grip and stock. I'd like to get my hands on a halo rail or something for it.

signal4l
07-02-08, 23:02
Scattergun--

Very impressive video. Makes me want to move from the Peoples Republic of IL and own one myself. Have you patterned that weapon? Does it handle slugs well?

warpigM-4
07-02-08, 23:29
Mine is just like my AK it eats anything you put down it's throat.I even did the conversion.it is a easy weapon to maintain and work on.I have had mine for going on 8 years and never everhad a problem.

19 inch standard stock :D with my little girl Lily:D

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h86/PFC-JB/Picture035.jpg

Scattergun
07-03-08, 19:39
Scattergun--

Very impressive video. Makes me want to move from the Peoples Republic of IL and own one myself. Have you patterned that weapon? Does it handle slugs well?


I have never patterned it. It is just a toy. Tony claims 8" group at 25 yards
w/ Speer Lawman 8 pellet 00 buckshot


http://www.tromix.com/saiga.htm

Slugs are no problem

Farrelljt
07-07-08, 17:54
It's funny. My dad bought one a few years back, and I laughed at him when he brought it in the house. Now that I am more into shooting, and see the usefulness of such a weapon, I am jealous.

warpigM-4
07-07-08, 22:03
It's funny. My dad bought one a few years back, and I laughed at him when he brought it in the house. Now that I am more into shooting, and see the usefulness of such a weapon, I am jealous.
when I first saw pictures of the S12 i was the same way "what in the world is that good for??"then I got one and have been hooked ever since!!I got mine brand new fir less than 300 bucks now they have doubled in price:eek:

white spaniard
07-07-08, 23:16
Has anyone with the Saiga shottie have any issues with shells getting warped or disfigured in mag?

warpigM-4
07-08-08, 08:51
Has anyone with the Saiga shottie have any issues with shells getting warped or disfigured in mag?
I have never had any problems with the 5 rds mag, i keep russian 8 rd loaded in the S12 the top round gets smashed a little on the crimped end but never a problem it loads right up and fires.I do notown any of the 10 rd US made mags so i can't tell you on those
:)

ajackb
08-11-08, 20:53
Thread is a bit old but I'll post something in case you haven't made a decision. Best forum for info on the Saiga brand shotguns and rifles is http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php. Availability has been spotty and prices keep going up. Gilbert Guns and Centerfire Systems currently has them in stock for pricing more reasonable than several auction sites this past spring. The stocking level of the Saiga 12 tends to ebb and flow a bit so if your truly interested you might want to jump on one now.

In response to the question posted above about the shells deforming, yes it is a known issue if you leave a loaded mag inserted on a closed bolt. Might want to store with bolt open if you think you'll need it that quick. Personally, I keep my Mossberg 500 at the front of the safe for that need. If I knew I was stepping into harms way and needed the firepower then the Saiga is a great choice.

Building one the way you want it is also fairly easy using the info provided on the Saiga forum.

Good luck!

Alan

RallySoob
09-05-08, 11:40
txs for the link... def need to build one of these before its too late

NYShooter
09-05-08, 19:45
Scattergun,

That tromix is a mean looking gun. Very nice.