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I need one of these! Glad I held off buying other switches.
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Defaultmp3
01-28-15, 10:58
Over on Lightfighter, Trent Zimmer posted this up:
Hey guys. The show has been great. Some really cool things from Surefire, LDI, TNVC... Ive really been impressed.
TAPS (patent pending)... I'm really excited about this. This is the low-down
Cost - Not yet set, but it will be competitive and reasonable
Availability - Current Target is summer. I am fairly confident we will hit that.
Its a Unity / TNVC product and we have put a lot of development time into it. We learned a lot the first go-around at it. The final version will be slightly different than the version we are showing now, but the feature set shouldn't change much (If anything, it will grow.)
Features:
2 Buttons, independently programmable. Each button is set to a port, so you can orient the switch on the rail, and then make the front the light or laser you want to operate by changing the leads. Leads are changeable for length and type (Surefire / LDI) - Which we are using their leads, so we know they are solid.
Program options (Per switch)
1. Constant on
2. Momentary
3. Single Press (hold) for momentary - Double tap for constant
4. We are playing with a couple of other programming modes
So, 1 button (Device) can be momentary, the other can be constant, or double tap.
You can link or slave the two switches so both devices will come on at once (Think white light / vis laser) or IR llum / IR laser with 1 button. When you slave for 1 or 2 devices, the buttons can be independently programmed. (Button 1 will turn on both devices momentary - button 2 will turn on both devices constant)
The last really cool feature about it is the replaceable back plates. 1913 / Keymod / M-LOK. So it will direct mount to any of those standards without the need for additional rails, etc. Its going to be a bomber switch and will be competitively priced, especially for the feature set. It will come in Black / FDE. (Buttons may always be black - Krylon!)
I think that's it, there should be some public releases with better pictures than I can take. We are just taking what we learned, rolling back to development and spending the time to make the best switch we can.
We've got some other really cool stuff coming out as well (Gen 4 ATOM, More FUSION accessories, NVG Recording system, Scope Mount, M-LOK FUSION adapter, etc)
Let me know if there are any questions.
Thanks!
Source: http://www.lightfighter.net/topic/unity-tactical-taps-switch?reply=19878898714951114#19878898714951114
If they make a Steiner/Surefire Y-switch for this, it could potentially trivialize switchology when combined with the DBAL-A3.
Jwknutson17
01-28-15, 18:55
Wouldn't that be sweet if the Bolt holes could also magically line up perfectly with the URX 3.1 rails. ;) Then count me in for at least 1 of those and another 1 each for Mlok and Keymod. I'm liking where this is going..
SpeedRacer
01-28-15, 19:40
Glad you guys like, it certainly caused a lot of "kid on christmas morning" faces at SHOT. :D
Wouldn't that be sweet if the Bolt holes could also magically line up perfectly with the URX 3.1 rails. ;) Then count me in for at least 1 of those and another 1 each for Mlok and Keymod. I'm liking where this is going..
Do you know the specs on the URX hole spacing? I'll see if either baseplate will line up.
Is the circuitry end user replaceable should something fail?
Jwknutson17
01-28-15, 23:09
Glad you guys like, it certainly caused a lot of "kid on christmas morning" faces at SHOT. :D
Do you know the specs on the URX hole spacing? I'll see if either baseplate will line up.
Single hole over is 1.577 on my mic. Center to center. So 2 holes is 3.154, etc etc. These are just my mic'ed up measurements.. Not anything published from KAC.
Anybody know if this thing is ever gonna hit market?
Anybody know if this thing is ever gonna hit market?
I called and talked to someone at TNVC a few weeks back and was told its still in the works but no release date.
It's definitely coming. We are making it better everyday with design -prototype-test iterations. We want it to be 100% right the first time.
Im looking forward to this switch big time
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Defaultmp3
01-16-17, 13:49
Well, it took quite awhile, and I'll remain suspicious until it actually hits the selves, but supposedly the TAPS is finally going into production: http://soldiersystems.net/2017/01/16/firstspear-range-day-17-tnvc-taps/
I don't know where you would fit a CR123 battery in there
contax_shooter
01-16-17, 15:43
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPVycN5hhoC/?taken-by=unitytactical
Wouldn't that be sweet if the Bolt holes could also magically line up perfectly with the URX 3.1 rails. ;) Then count me in for at least 1 of those and another 1 each for Mlok and Keymod. I'm liking where this is going..
If that happens there sure as he'll better be mod2 3.1 uppers. Lol
I need the tan version. The ST07 keeps popping out of the Steiner laser under recoil.
I don't know where you would fit a CR123 battery in there
It says 2032.
Jwknutson17
01-16-17, 18:17
Back from the dead. Not holding my breath on this again. Until it's in my hands...
Jwknutson17
01-16-17, 20:49
I need the tan version. The ST07 keeps popping out of the Steiner laser under recoil..
Never thought I would use my wife's hair tie as a rifle part, but when your in a pinch, you just do what you have to do. I am assuming you are taking about the SR07-D-IT.
Eurodriver
01-18-17, 08:37
El oh el
Things that took less time to construct than the TAPS switch:
Empire State Building
Titanic
Apollo 11 Command Module
Chrysler Building
When this was first announced Donald Trump was still hosting the Apprentice :)
I'm not sure how anyone could even still care about what TNVC and Unity Tactical says at this point. They have missed at least two public deadlines (2015, 2016) with virtually no explanation other than "We want this to be the highest quality product ever and we're making it just right!"
It's a tape switch. :-|
Oh hell! I thought the thread was about a cable tv box when I saw the title heading. ;)
contax_shooter
01-18-17, 09:46
El oh el
Things that took less time to construct than the TAPS switch:
Empire State Building
Titanic
Apollo 11 Command Module
Chrysler Building
When this was first announced Donald Trump was still hosting the Apprentice :)
I'm not sure how anyone could even still care about what TNVC and Unity Tactical says at this point. They have missed at least two public deadlines (2015, 2016) with virtually no explanation other than "We want this to be the highest quality product ever and we're making it just right!"
It's a tape switch. :-|
Lol.
MAP
TAPS $139.00
TAPS Pro $239.00
WTF.
Jwknutson17
01-18-17, 15:54
239... hope the street price is less then that. 139 I could spring for, as the D-IT surefire is 100+.
I'm with euro. I've either already changed setups to work as I need or went another direction. 2 years ago I would have bought 3 of them in a second.
239... hope the street price is less then that. 139 I could spring for, as the D-IT surefire is 100+.
I'm with euro. I've either already changed setups to work as I need or went another direction. 2 years ago I would have bought 3 of them in a second.
I'm with you guys.. I thought I could wait but I've made it work without this so I cant be sure if I'll be buying one anymore. If they are only sold by TNVC and Unity Tactical I doubt they'll be any cheaper than the listed MSRP.
contax_shooter
01-27-17, 08:45
All SHOT video coverage mentions they are getting packaged up.. Cash me ousside, how bout dah?
Guys,
I apologize for my absence from this thread. I won't comment on the ship date as I likely wont be believed until you can actually buy one (Understandably). I will try and answer some of the questions I see over the last few pages. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have and I will do my best to respond.
Q. Its very delayed! Its just a pressure switch!
A. Yes, it has been delayed, and yes its just a pressure switch. That being said. It does have several features that has made the development much more difficult than expected but also are not currently available in existing solutions.
Q. The Price is ridiculous
A. The Insight Dual Button Remote is $234. TAPS PRO does quite a bit more than it does (Mounts to 1913/MLOK/Keymod, is fully programmable, offered with different leads, etc). The surefire dual switch $120. Again, TAPS PRO offers additional features. Of course if you do not need or would not use these features, TAPS is more comparable in price at $145 MSRP. A $25 difference for the additional mounting options. There is a lot that goes into the price of a product as I am sure most members of this board know.
Q. Will it only be sold by Unity / TNVC?
A. No, it will be available through our re-sellers including our International Network.
Q. Eurodriver - This was announced when Donald Trump was still hosting the apprentice
A. We made an internal decision to only release this once Trump was President.
Q. The Empire State Building was built in less time than TAPS
A. The Empire State Building is not compatible with MLOK
Thank you
Guys,
I apologize for my absence from this thread. I won't comment on the ship date as I likely wont be believed until you can actually buy one (Understandably). I will try and answer some of the questions I see over the last few pages. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have and I will do my best to respond.
Q. Its very delayed! Its just a pressure switch!
A. Yes, it has been delayed, and yes its just a pressure switch. That being said. It does have several features that has made the development much more difficult than expected but also are not currently available in existing solutions.
Q. The Price is ridiculous
A. The Insight Dual Button Remote is $234. TAPS PRO does quite a bit more than it does (Mounts to 1913/MLOK/Keymod, is fully programmable, offered with different leads, etc). The surefire dual switch $120. Again, TAPS PRO offers additional features. Of course if you do not need or would not use these features, TAPS is more comparable in price at $145 MSRP. A $25 difference for the additional mounting options. There is a lot that goes into the price of a product as I am sure most members of this board know.
Q. Will it only be sold by Unity / TNVC?
A. No, it will be available through our re-sellers including our International Network.
Q. Eurodriver - This was announced when Donald Trump was still hosting the apprentice
A. We made an internal decision to only release this once Trump was President.
Q. The Empire State Building was built in less time than TAPS
A. The Empire State Building is not compatible with MLOK
Thank you
Excellent Q&A session. A couple of those have me chuckling. Thanks for making my Friday afternoon more pleasant. :)
...once Trump was President.
...not compatible with MLOK
Ok. That was funny.
Eurodriver
01-29-17, 09:31
I can appreciate that reply :lol:
contax_shooter
02-09-17, 13:38
Available to order at TNVC:
https://tnvc.com/shop/taps-pro-tactical-augmented-pressure-switch-programmable/
Any reason why color and type of lead isn't an option?
We will be making FDE when we are caught up on Black. And lead options will be filtering in progressively as well.
Thanks!
contax_shooter
02-16-17, 19:24
Either this thing is the biggest pain in the ass to program or my unit is faulty. Unity Tactical responded and I'll report back with the progress.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2604/32564120440_e3c69d30dc_b.jpg
I might have the distinct honor of having the first TAPS Pro stolen in the mail. FedEx allowed anrandom person to sign for it, wasn't at my house when I got home, and they have no idea if they even dropped it off at the right place. Awesome.
Either this thing is the biggest pain in the ass to program or my unit is faulty. Unity Tactical responded and I'll report back with the progress.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2604/32564120440_e3c69d30dc_b.jpg
Any luck? I finally got mine and it's making me feel dumb.
contax_shooter
02-22-17, 06:15
Nope, still waiting.
contax_shooter
03-22-17, 19:32
.....
Eurodriver
03-23-17, 00:02
Wow...
ClearedHot
03-23-17, 04:23
A batch of the TAPS switches that were released/sold are defective. Contact TNVC.
contax_shooter
04-15-17, 17:55
Unity Tactical supplied customers with a temporary Taps switch (for us to keep) who returned their recalled batch of TAPS Pro due to a delayed turnaround time.
Nice of them to do that.
Eurodriver
04-17-17, 07:33
That is nice of them. No doubt tnvc and unity tactical are good people.
...but two years and product defects on launch?
My dudes.
contax_shooter
04-17-17, 07:43
That is nice of them. No doubt tnvc and unity tactical are good people.
...but two years and product defects on launch?
My dudes.
Lol, you've addressed the elephant in the room.
Not much hype from TNVC nor Unity ever since the release of Taps. Still waiting for the REMORA that was scheduled to be released 03/20.
Theyre busy fluffing the mawl to make up for lost taps sales, lol
I need the tan version. The ST07 keeps popping out of the Steiner laser under recoil.
It says 2032.
the other link i read must have had a typo
contax_shooter
06-07-17, 20:50
It's June....
contax_shooter
06-24-17, 21:51
Got my replacement Taps Pro switch, works like a charm now. Works well now that I compromised on a configured setting because I can't figure how to set other modes.
By sheer luck I somehow got this to stick: button 1: momentary/double tap constant laser, button 2: tap constant/hold for momentary white light.
Again,
Sorry for the delayed reply. Working on so many things.
The TAPS PRO issue is well behind us. It was a very specific issue in assembly that caused it and very easy to fix. It just didn't manifest in our testing.
We have also revised the programming instructions so that they are easier to understand and follow.
The MAWL doesn't need any fluffing. If you haven't used it, it deserves all of the praise it gets and is truely a leap forward for aiming lasers.
We are rolling out additional lead combinations and colors in between filling backorders.
Let me know if I can answer any additional questions.
Thank you
Is there a DBAL-A3 / Surefire / vis-override version in the works?
Yes, there sure is. There are a handful of samples floating around out there. I don't have a timeline for it, but the design work is complete.
We have a few different button arrangement configurations that we are collecting feedback on to see what is the most popular.
Thanks
Goteron,
Will the TAPS fit in the 11:00 rail space of a KMR? Everything I've seen is just on the side and not the offset slots up top.
Goteron,
Will the TAPS fit in the 11:00 rail space of a KMR? Everything I've seen is just on the side and not the offset slots up top.
No, it will not. We could have made it fit if we didnt use a CR2032 battery, but the alternative was a much less common battery.
BP7178 - Nothing I can share at this time.
Thanks
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