View Full Version : SBR/AR Pistol backpack - muzzle up or down
So I have a Blackhawk "board bag backpack" on order. I have been researching these types of bags for a good 3 months and one thing I noticed is a lot of these things are showing the rifles oriented with the muzzle down when they are being carried in a backpack. I know there are varying opinions on this subject but wouldn't it make more sense to carry it muzzle up when it is on your back. I mean, that is how I almost always carry a rifle when it is on a sling on my back so why not do it the same in the backpacks? it would be less wear on the bottom of the bag and the gun wouldn't have to be supported by one of those "muzzle pockets" that hang off the Molle inside the bags. muzzle up or down, they are both safe methods of carrying on your back. You would think you would be less self conscious about setting the bag down (leaning it up against something) if the stock was at the base instead of the muzzle.
just thinking out loud.
what do you think?
anyone else have this bag or a similar one?
http://www.blackhawk.com/Products/Bags-Packs-Tactical-Nylon/Bags-Packs/Diversion™/Diversion®-Board-Pack.aspx
If you're seperating the upper and lower, then you want the muzzle down to keep the BCG and CH from falling out of the upper. If your bag holds the pistol or whatever without seperating them, then it's preference and doesn't much matter. When I split my receivers, I put the stock and the muzzle at the bottom of the bag.
If you're seperating the upper and lower, then you want the muzzle down to keep the BCG and CH from falling out of the upper. If your bag holds the pistol or whatever without seperating them, then it's preference and doesn't much matter. When I split my receivers, I put the stock and the muzzle at the bottom of the bag.
I guess I didn't specify that. My gun will fit in without braking it down. do you carry it around in your backpack a lot?
I guess I didn't specify that. My gun will fit in without braking it down. do you carry it around in your backpack a lot?
And I should have mentioned that I do not own or have used the bag in question. If it was me, I would probably put in the bag muzzle up so if the bag is dropped, the stock takes the abuse and not your muzzle.
However, it sounds like the weapon would be supported in the bag and with some padding, probably is not an issue. Whatever works for you, if it deploys from the bag faster muzzle down, then rock on!
I will most likely carry it muzzle up. what bag do you have and do you like it?
zombiescometh
03-18-15, 12:26
Up for me as well
3ACR_Scout
03-18-15, 12:58
I would personally want it oriented so I could grab it by the pistol grip to pull it out of the bag and prepare to use it. If that meant orienting it muzzle down, that's how I would carry it. I do the same thing with any case, lockbox, etc. I place the weapon so it's oriented in a manner that makes it easy to grab it by the pistol grip with my primary firing hand.
Dave
I would personally want it oriented so I could grab it by the pistol grip to pull it out of the bag and prepare to use it. If that meant orienting it muzzle down, that's how I would carry it. I do the same thing with any case, lockbox, etc. I place the weapon so it's oriented in a manner that makes it easy to grab it by the pistol grip with my primary firing hand.
Dave
very good point.
Most would likely grab their holstered pistol and follow up with a mag change if I need to do anything VERY fast as that is faster than removing a backpack from your back, un-zipping and unstrapping a gun from a backpack in the first place.
Maybe a dumb question... AR pistol concealed with a permit I understand but can you conceal an SBR? I guess technically a backpack is no different than a conventional case if the weapon is not loaded.
Maybe a dumb question... AR pistol concealed with a permit I understand but can you conceal an SBR? I guess technically a backpack is no different than a conventional case if the weapon is not loaded.
This is my understanding as well. You must also make sure your "pistol" isn't an AOW. If I were to be concealing a loaded AR pistol, I'd play it safe by not installing an AFG or VFG.
Inkslinger
03-18-15, 16:34
Maybe a dumb question... AR pistol concealed with a permit I understand but can you conceal an SBR? I guess technically a backpack is no different than a conventional case if the weapon is not loaded.
Depends on the state. In my state SBR's can be concealed loaded. Muzzle up for me.
Not something I carry everyday, but I do like to take a rifle hiking with me and this helps keep a level of discretion on well traveled trails...
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brettd1982
03-19-15, 11:12
Muzzel down so i could grab the buttstock, easier to grab. I have a rifle backpack but not an sbr but thats how i carry mine,
Yeah... pulling a carbean out buttstock first just seem to be less snag prone for me. The light bezzel and curve of the mag always bang or snag something.
Muzzle up assembled. Muzzle down, stock down broken down.
I would personally want it oriented so I could grab it by the pistol grip to pull it out of the bag and prepare to use it. If that meant orienting it muzzle down, that's how I would carry it. I do the same thing with any case, lockbox, etc. I place the weapon so it's oriented in a manner that makes it easy to grab it by the pistol grip with my primary firing hand.
Dave
+1
Put something on the bottom of the bag to cushion the muzzle and support the weight. On my B.O.B. I use a folded jeans/pants placed laterally on the bottom of the bag and put the gun muzzle down on that. It supports anything inside the bag and distributes the weight evenly.
Muzzle down. Two reasons;
-pulling an assembled weapon toward you, barrel first, out of a bag is not a recipe for success
-an assembled weapon, in a bag on your back, points at the back of your head.
Muzzle down, I can grip it properly and verify with my thumb that the safety is engaged before moving the weapon. To me, it's a no-brainer.
Muzzle down.
Inkslinger
03-29-15, 09:35
Muzzle down. Two reasons;
-pulling an assembled weapon toward you, barrel first, out of a bag is not a recipe for success
-an assembled weapon, in a bag on your back, points at the back of your head.
Muzzle down, I can grip it properly and verify with my thumb that the safety is engaged before moving the weapon. To me, it's a no-brainer.
Muzzle down.
I think it probably depends on the bag. I use a Kelty backpack with a drawstring opening. Mine is in muzzle up. When I remove it I pull it straight up and out. I hold it by the end of the handguard so I have more control of the muzzle than if I grabbed it by the stock or the grip. The way it rides in my bag, the muzzle is canted away from my head. If I had it muzzle down it would be pointed into my lower back and ass. Also I keep an empty chamber, so most of those are non-issues anyway. Obviously YMMV.
After carrying it for a week to and from my truck and on my motorcycle, Muzzle up for sure. the muzzle is never actually pointing at your head and it would be somewhat difficult to get it to point at your head because of the angle that the bag is at when it lays on my back. also when taking any gun out of anything you should never be pointing it at yourself to begin with regardless of the bag, container, holster.... Thats a pretty standard safety rule.
EDIT: and as many times as i am setting the bag down it makes it easier with the stock down.
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