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Well, that's something that you don't see every day:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/story/news/local/florida/2015/04/07/bob-cat-fish/25420533/
What an incredible animal! The balls, speed, agility, etc. is all off the charts for that dinner :)
Two of my favorite critters on earth as well.
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/d206d7dc2d214bf5a65d2d605cee210e2b9a9c4f/c=4-0-3260-2448&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2015/04/07/WTLV/WTLV/635640179969930980-bobcatfish.JPG
That looks bigger than any bobcat I have seen.
That looks bigger than any bobcat I have seen.
It looks more like the Flordia Panther, type of Puma. Much larger than a bobcat, except the tail.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_panther
Moose-Knuckle
04-08-15, 06:07
Well cat's do like fish, here kitty-kitty.
It looks more like the Flordia Panther, type of Puma. Much larger than a bobcat, except the tail.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_panther
Nothing in the picture to use for scale. Article says the guy estimated the fish to be four feet long. If his estimate is near correct it ain't a Bob Cat. Problem is the photographer has no more to scale size by than us looking at a picture. For the record I examined a Bob Cat that was killed buy a car that weighed 42 pounds. He was over twice as large as any I have ever seen while hunting. Most look like they weigh no more than 15#. BTW... We catch a lot of 12-18" sharks in the surf this time of year.
No way that is a bobcat. Body shape is way different than a bobcat. Definitely is a Panther/Mountain Lion. Especially if that shark is 4ft long.
No way that is a bobcat. Body shape is way different than a bobcat. Definitely is a Panther/Mountain Lion. Especially if that shark is 4ft long.
That was my first impression, but mountain lions have tails. Maybe it's just a really big, really wet bobcat.
The tail is what makes this a bit confusing but I bet it was some type of accident the animal had earlier in its life. I have a regular cat at home that had its tail broken at the base as a kitten and it is only about 3" long. Something similar easily could have happened here.
It looks more like the Flordia Panther, type of Puma. Much larger than a bobcat, except the tail.
The tail is what makes this a bit confusing but I bet it was some type of accident the animal had earlier in its life. I have a regular cat at home that had its tail broken at the base as a kitten and it is only about 3" long. Something similar easily could have happened here.
These quotes are what I was thinking as well. But that shouldn't spoil the fun of seeing kitty fishing.
Moose-Knuckle
04-08-15, 07:06
Could the tale possibly be to the left side of the animal and curled at the tip, maybe it's just a play of the camera making it look stubby from that angle?
I thought about that also.
Regardless it's pretty cool to see the cat getting some fresh fish!
brickboy240
04-08-15, 09:58
Bobcats are big, agile and fearless cats.
I have seen a bobcat sneak up on ducks on the edge of a pond and leap on to one of the ducks, when the group got real close to the bank. Was sitting in a deer blind near a stock pond when it happened. They can leap very long distances and are amazing cats.
Yes...they get that big. My brother shot one that was after his chickens and it was at least 30-35 pounds.
The quality of the photo is poor, but the visible spots, the dark end of the tail, skull shape, and proportions of the front and rear legs lead me to believe this is indeed a bobcat.
Cool photo in any case.
The cat is hunting a big mouthed snappy thing. Probably not the first time. It's tail may have been modified by a previously encountered big mouthed snappy thing.
Damn nature, you scarey!
Reminds me of the one where a lioness takes out a friggen alligator (or croc, whatever).
The cat is hunting a big mouthed snappy thing. Probably not the first time. It's tail may have been modified by a previously encountered big mouthed snappy thing.
Took the words out of my mouth.
I was going to say its a Puma who had its tail bitten off while taking a leisurely swim and was simply getting some payback.
steyrman13
04-08-15, 12:04
Looks like a large bobcat to me. The tail is thin at the base. It is spotted...Looks at its legs. Look at the fur around the face which has the bulge at the cheeks area.
Looks like a large bobcat to me. The tail is thin at the base. It is spotted...Looks at its legs. Look at the fur around the face which has the bulge at the cheeks area.
I concur. Its features indicate bobcat and the way it is holding itself as well. I've seen plenty but never one that seems as big as that one. Family land has always had bobcats around. Seemed to average in the low 20lbs. Our current cat(farm cat-earns its keep) used to love chasing them at night. We have seen her chase them many times like she was a lion. Always wondered why they didn't eat her.
Bobcats are simply cool animals.
I'd be shocked if that wasn't a bobcat. I've pulled one off the side of the road that was huge.
http://static1.squarespace.com/static/51d9fa24e4b0bd06a5f4e793/51d9fb01e4b0315aafb94dee/51d9fb01e4b0315aafb94df0/1373240088904/bobcat-size-mountain-lion.jpg
That was a great story. I guess if you live in that neck of the woods and like seafood you gotta be tough.
......., but the visible spots,...........
I am not seeing the spots, which is one of the primary reasons I was calling it a puma, but my eyes are probably much older than yours.
brickboy240
04-08-15, 15:08
Depending on the time of year...a bobcat's coat tends to change quite a bit.
Many whitetail deer often lose their longer hair in the hot months and take on a more reddish hue, then grow longer hair back in winter and become more tan or dull.
The bobcat tends to shed some of its longer hair in hot months and they do take on a more tan appearance and their spots and "camouflage" look to their pelts. Foxes and coyotes also experience coat changes in different seasons.
On our ranch property, we see all sorts of predators at varying times of the year. Like the deer...they too look different depending on the time of year, drought conditions or diets.
Maybe this will help some in discerning the species
http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g342/F2SConsulting/635640179969930980-bobcatfish_zpsnqc5njrw.jpg (http://s1097.photobucket.com/user/F2SConsulting/media/635640179969930980-bobcatfish_zpsnqc5njrw.jpg.html) http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g342/F2SConsulting/635640179969930980-bobcatfish%201_zpsxasxvltu.jpg (http://s1097.photobucket.com/user/F2SConsulting/media/635640179969930980-bobcatfish%201_zpsxasxvltu.jpg.html)
Maybe this will help some in discerning the species
http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g342/F2SConsulting/635640179969930980-bobcatfish_zpsnqc5njrw.jpg (http://s1097.photobucket.com/user/F2SConsulting/media/635640179969930980-bobcatfish_zpsnqc5njrw.jpg.html) http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g342/F2SConsulting/635640179969930980-bobcatfish%201_zpsxasxvltu.jpg (http://s1097.photobucket.com/user/F2SConsulting/media/635640179969930980-bobcatfish%201_zpsxasxvltu.jpg.html)
Weird... Sometimes I look at the picture and it's white & gold. The next time it's blue & black.
:sarcastic:
I call dibs for a spot on Team Panther.
That's a florida panther. You'll see them time to time down in the everglades area if you cruise I75 through alligator alley, sr80 or sr90.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/2015/04/08/bobcatshark.adapt.1190.1.jpg
That's the best picture yet that has apparently been enlarged, and enhanced. It's from Nat Geo's website.
Spots can be seen on the legs and bottom of the stomach region.
From article....
" The Florida agency's Facebook page says the shark was likely an adult Atlantic sharpnose (Rhizoprionodon terraenovae). (See how a man wrestled a seven-foot shark to the beach in Nantucket.)
In response to some users asking if the cat might actually be a panther, the agency said on Facebook that its experts believe it is a bobcat. By zooming in close, the tell-tale spots on the cat's hind legs help give it away."
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/04/150408-bobcat-shark-photo-florida-beach-animals-science/
SeriousStudent
04-08-15, 21:30
We had a mountain lion rug in the living room at our ranch. That thing was freaking huge. And it made a pretty terrifying sound when shot, too.
I think I'd pick a different beach to go fishing on.
That was my first impression, but mountain lions have tails. Maybe it's just a really big, really wet bobcat.
Or maybe it's a cougar that got its tail bobbed in a trap or fighting another critter...
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