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WillBrink
04-09-15, 07:04
What possible values does such a study have? Don't answer that, it's rhetorical obviously. There's zero value to this research.

Around 9% of adults with access to firearms have anger problems

A study co-authored by researchers from Duke, Harvard and Columbia universities in the US has found that nearly 1 in 10 adults (9%) have both a history of impulsive, angry behavior and access to firearms.

According to the researchers, angry people with access to firearms are typically young or middle-aged men whose anger manifests itself by them smashing or breaking things or getting into fights when they lose their temper. These individuals are also more likely to be married and live in outlying areas around metropolitan centers rather than in central cities.

Published in Behavioral Sciences and the Law, the study also found that an estimated 1.5% of anger-prone adults carry firearms outside their homes.

"Impulsive angry behavior conveys inherent risk of aggressive or violent acts," write the authors, "which can become lethal when combined with access to firearms. There is also evidence that anger can mediate the relationship between symptoms of mental illness and violent behavior."

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) report that in 2012, 11,622 people were intentionally killed in the US by people with guns, with an additional 59,077 people injured.

In their study, the researchers state that the public's response to mass shootings has tended to discuss gun violence in association with mental illness, but "gun violence and mental illness are complex but different public health problems that intersect only at their edges."

The researchers examined data obtained from 5,563 interviews conducted in person as part of the National Comorbidity Study Replication (NCS-R) - a nationally representative survey of mental disorders in US in the early 2000s.

There was little overlap between study participants with serious mental illness such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder and anger-prone participants with access to guns. However, the study found anger-prone people with guns were at an elevated risk for a range of common psychiatric conditions such as posttraumatic stress disorder and anxiety.

Additionally, fewer than 1 in 10 anger-prone people with access to guns had a psychiatric or substance abuse problem that had led to a hospital admission. Under existing mental-health-related restriction, most of these participants would, therefore, be free to legally purchase firearms.
Current laws 'not necessarily keeping guns away from potentially dangerous individuals'

"Very few people in this concerning group suffer from the kinds of disorders that often lead to involuntary commitment and which would legally prohibit them from buying a gun," says principal investigator Dr. Ronald Kessler, a professor of health care policy at Harvard.

The authors of the study suggest that assessing a prospective gun buyer's previous convictions, including violent offenses and multiple convictions for impaired driving, could have a greater impact on attempts to prevent gun violence in the US than screening based on an individual's history of mental health treatment.

Individuals that exhibit behaviors likely to increase the risk of impulsive, gun-related violence are more likely to be identified by examining a history of arrest than a history of mental health treatment, the authors reason, and the identification process would also be much simpler.

Laws such as the "dangerous persons" gun seizure laws in Connecticut and Indiana or the "gun violence restraining order" law in California could also help limit access to guns for individuals that may pose a danger to others due to impulsive angry behavior. These laws allow for pre-emptive removal of firearms from individuals deemed to be "high-risk."

"As we try to balance constitutional rights and public safety regarding people with mental illness, the traditional legal approach has been to prohibit firearms from involuntarily-committed psychiatric patients," says lead author Jeffrey Swanson, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Duke Medicine.

"But now we have more evidence that current laws don't necessarily keep firearms out of the hands of a lot of potentially dangerous individuals."

Previously, a number of national health organizations called for the introduction of new policies to combat the number of firearm-related injuries and deaths in the US in a paper published in the Annals of Internal Medicine.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/292131.php

ralph
04-09-15, 07:28
Not suprising, Look at who authored the study..3 of the most liberal bastions of socialism, Marxism that you could find on U.S. shores, Junk Science indeed! The bad thing is, Some Democrat will pick up on this and attempt to make it law. The rule of bad ideas comes into mind here..

ramairthree
04-09-15, 07:32
Step towards loss of 2A rights for those with "anger management" problems the same way misdemeanor domestics have?

militarymoron
04-09-15, 08:00
Around 9% of adults with access to firearms have anger problems

A study co-authored by researchers from Duke, Harvard and Columbia universities in the US has found that nearly 1 in 10 adults (9%) have both a history of impulsive, angry behavior and access to firearms.



It's 'junk' - not even 'junk science'. Let's reword the title to mean exactly the same thing:


Around 91% of adults with access to firearms do not have any anger problems

A study co-authored by researchers from Duke, Harvard and Columbia universities in the US has found that the vast majority (91%) of adults who have access to firearms have no history of impulsive, angry behavior.

WillBrink
04-09-15, 08:14
It's 'junk' - not even 'junk science'. Let's reword the title to mean exactly the same thing:


Around 91% of adults with access to firearms do not have any anger problems

A study co-authored by researchers from Duke, Harvard and Columbia universities in the US has found that the vast majority (91%) of adults who have access to firearms have no history of impulsive, angry behavior.

But it's for the children!!!!

How about this winner from the above:

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) report that in 2012, 11,622 people were intentionally killed in the US by people with guns, with an additional 59,077 people injured."

I believe those numbers don't include LE shooting criminals, or criminals shooting criminals (the bulk of all shootings) nor even justified shootings by non criminals of criminals!

Vandal
04-09-15, 08:19
Those professors probably have anger problems, or a fear of weapons, or f*** them and their BS paper.

jpmuscle
04-09-15, 08:19
Hilarious...... They all can go suck start a 12ga.

SilverBullet432
04-09-15, 09:09
What a waste of time and resources..

WillBrink
04-09-15, 09:26
Hilarious...... They all can go suck start a 12ga.

Get that anger problem under control sir! :help:

sevenhelmet
04-09-15, 09:30
Fear mongering is one of the pillars of statism and social engineering.

Science is a word which is abused and misused.

WillBrink
04-09-15, 09:42
Fear mongering is one of the pillars of statism and social engineering.

Science is a word which is abused and misused.

That is true. Science does have a tendency to self correct over time, but the damage is already done, and it's a slow process. That's not generally the fault of science per se, but that of the media, those with an agenda, non scientists, etc. abusing and misusing the science.

Abraham
04-09-15, 10:18
If the statistics are to be believed, the angry percentage are displaying incredible gun discipline or the left's mantra of "they'll be blood in the streets" would've come true long ago...

docsherm
04-09-15, 12:57
That is just stupid. They need to focus on lacrosse and rap. That is what they know about. ;)

Crow Hunter
04-09-15, 14:13
If the statistics are to be believed, the angry percentage are displaying incredible gun discipline or the left's mantra of "they'll be blood in the streets" would've come true long ago...

Absolutely.

If 9% of people have problems out of 55,000,000 people in the USA that own guns then 4,950,000 people have anger problems and they are armed.

Only 70,699 of those people in 2012 (assuming everyone only shot and injured or killed one person and this number doesn't include cops and suicides) then only 1.4% of "angry gun owners" are truly dangerous.

What is the % of black men currently in prison? It is way higher than 1.4%. (IIRC 4.7%) Should we now "screen" all black men in the US to see if we should just go ahead and deny them their rights throw them in prison before they actually do anything? Why not? It is way higher of a % than even gun owners with "anger problems" in the US. This is completely ignoring the fact that they want to deny rights to all 55,000,000 gun owners in the US because 1.4% of 9% that might be dangerous have actually injured/killed someone.

Now what is the % chance that your average black child is going to wind up in college pursuing and graduating with a STEM degree?

Which one should we be spending resources on? "Angry people getting guns" or getting more minority students a decent education so they grow up to be a productive member of society with something to lose instead of one of those 1.4% of "Angry Gunowners" or the 4.7% incarcerated.

T2C
04-09-15, 15:02
I would be interested in knowing what percentage of people with anger problems have access to motor vehicles, flammables such as gasoline, propane and other items that could be used to kill multiple people in one attack.

WillBrink
04-09-15, 16:33
I would be interested in knowing what percentage of people with anger problems have access to motor vehicles, flammables such as gasoline, propane and other items that could be used to kill multiple people in one attack.

All of them...

SteyrAUG
04-09-15, 17:19
Sounds about right. I bet 9% of firearm owners are Democrats who bought a gun because they have anger issues.

Clint
04-09-15, 20:18
And here I thought "climate change" was the #1 junk science of 2015. Must have been 2014...

jet66
04-09-15, 20:26
But it's for the children!!!!

It always is!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/04/09/deaths-of-children-are-the-most-devastating-effect-of-our-gun-culture-the-nra-has-no-idea-what-to-say-about-them/

jpmuscle
04-09-15, 20:29
It always is!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/04/09/deaths-of-children-are-the-most-devastating-effect-of-our-gun-culture-the-nra-has-no-idea-what-to-say-about-them/
The stupid it burns!!

Moose-Knuckle
04-10-15, 02:23
Around 9% of adults with access to firearms have anger problems


BREAKING NEWS!

This just in . . .

A new study has concluded that 100% of adults with a vagina are emotionally compromised. This after a previous study concluded that 100% of adults that think of themselves as progressives suffer from a terminal mental disorder.

T2C
04-10-15, 10:06
Quote Originally Posted by T2C: I would be interested in knowing what percentage of people with anger problems have access to motor vehicles, flammables such as gasoline, propane and other items that could be used to kill multiple people in one attack.


All of them...

This is my point and I know we are on the same page.

Honu
04-10-15, 11:26
and yet 12 kids die each day from using there cell phone while driving but parents still say here are the keys dont forget your phone !