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Stubby
06-08-15, 12:09
Hey all, first post in a long while, Deployed right now but wanting to order or find a bolt .308 for when I get home,shot the knights armament m110 but I dont want or have the need for a semi auto. Dont know much about bolt rifles but I would like one, I want a setup like the M24 and I know thats based off the remington 700 but I dont even know where to begin because there are so many variants.

Id like to keep the price of the rifle around 1000 dollars and spend about another 600-1000 on the glass.

Any recommendations are welcome

Thanks, Stubby

Stubby
06-08-15, 12:12
EDIT
Looks as if I have put this in the wrong section, if a mod could move it to the bolt gun section that would be appreciated.

Nightstalker865
06-08-15, 14:10
Howa or Tikka. Either is a great starting place for a build.


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misfit47
06-25-15, 21:04
Remington 700p or 5r if you want Remington.

SeriousStudent
06-25-15, 21:56
Moved per OP's request.

JR TACTICAL
06-26-15, 00:04
I just did this myself. I was very new to the bolt action world and I love the rifle I just put together. It's is the Remington 700 SPS AAC-SD. It set me back about $750 for the rifle, the specs are ok, the stock and trigger leave something to be desired but the stock can be fixed with a dremel tool and the trigger... Well,I like mine ok, but a aftermarket one can be had for $100 or so.

I went with the vortex HS LR 6-24X50 FFP model. About $1000 for that and then another couple hundred for rings and a base and I have had great success. Holding about 1moa or better at 100 and I'm a novice with the bolt fun and .308 round. I think the above rifles are great too(no experience of course) but you will be hard pressed to beat a SPS Remington 700 for your budget. Just my opinion. Hope this helps

misfit47
06-26-15, 06:02
Buying a pss will get you a much better stock than the plastic that comes on the the other models. Them and the 5r have hs precision stocks on them that don't need upgrading. Used will save you enough for base and rings.

austinN4
06-26-15, 07:46
Buying a pss will get you a much better stock than the plastic that comes on the the other models. Them and the 5r have hs precision stocks on them that don't need upgrading. Used will save you enough for base and rings.
Which works fine if you like that style stock. But don't buy the more expensive 700P and then change stocks. Do what JR said and get the 700 SPS AAC-SD, which can be found for less that $750, and put the style of stock you want on it.

Dist. Expert 26
06-26-15, 08:07
I agree with the last post. Buy the SPS so you have money leftover to get a new stock/chassis system if you so desire. I picked up my SPS on trade last year, put it in a McRees precision chassis and it holds .5-.75 MOA with factory match ammo.

misfit47
06-26-15, 12:26
It comes out about the same $ wise. If you don't like the hs stock you can sell it.

Trumpet
06-26-15, 12:28
I'm in the same s(h)ituation. My exception is that at one time I had a GAP custom rifle. Had to sell it (Kids, house, etc). Now I'm ready to get back "in" but not on a bachelor's budget. Except now I have champagne tastes on a Natural Light budget. Here's what I've been thinking....

First, if you're going with a factory rifle you need to consider the costs of upgrading.
If I were to get a AAC-SD, I'd have to replace the stock and trigger, mount/rings, etc. That could end up being another $400-$500, not including the optic. That's assuming the Rem QC is up to par and you get a good barrel etc. When you consider the cost of what it takes to get it where it "should be", it's not such a bargain...around $1200 or more (less if you go with a B&C stock or Magpul)

If I get a 20" 5R, it would cost considerably more, but the stock is good as-is and the barrel, although still a Rem barrel should be a little better. Still could use a replacement trigger though...$1200-$1300-ish.

I'm also considering a Tikka CTR. Great barrel, action slick as snot, comes with base, enlarged bolt knob, and great trigger. Only thing is, although the stock will do, it could use replacing. I figure sell the stock and bottom metal (same as TRG 22) for $400 and add another $200 and get a KGR X-Ray. Total around $1200.

Final consideration for me is a FNH SPR A1A. Yeah, it's $1600-$1700, BUT it's pretty danged complete as-is. Other than a scope/rings and ammo, I can't think of anything it needs. FANTASTIC barrel, great action, McMillan stock (which I like), great trigger, mount included (not to mention tapped 8-40), detachable box mags.

misfit47
06-26-15, 13:32
Oh believe me., I see the virtues of the fn guns. Op said he wanted a Remington so I made my suggestion based on that. I would personally take the fn before a current Remington.

Bimmer
06-29-15, 14:51
Look at a Savage FCP-SR?

I was looking a Rem 700 SPS AAC-SD, and I bought the Savage instead.

With a Nikon Monarch 4-16x50 my whole rig cost less than $1,000, total, and it shoots less than 1moa out to 300yds with factory ammo (hand loads to follow).

skywalkrNCSU
06-29-15, 18:52
I was in a similar position and got an AAC-SD and put a Vortex scope on it and I am very happy. I do plan on changing the stock to the new Magpul and eventually the trigger as well but when I took it out to shoot for the first time it was consistently shooting sub moa and I am far from a skilled marksman. Of course I have heard of issues with the accuracy of some Remington products so I would shoot it before and modifications to make sure the base level of accuracy is up to par.

tevan0707
06-29-15, 19:50
I just finished up a Remington 700 SPS Varmint build with a MDT LSS chassis system, Vortex Viper HS LR 6-24X50 FFP, and I'm into it roughly 1,750. I choose the chassis because it has the ergonomics of a AR, the SPS Varmint because for the price it's hard to beat and the viper because I got a steal on it. So far, really fun and light weight. Don't regret anything.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/29/713959dc8e2dca36b92307f51b83867c.jpg

natchomamma
08-06-15, 12:42
Hey all, first post in a long while, Deployed right now but wanting to order or find a bolt .308 for when I get home,shot the knights armament m110 but I dont want or have the need for a semi auto. Dont know much about bolt rifles but I would like one, I want a setup like the M24 and I know thats based off the remington 700 but I dont even know where to begin because there are so many variants.

Id like to keep the price of the rifle around 1000 dollars and spend about another 600-1000 on the glass.

Any recommendations are welcome

Thanks, Stubby

How bout this for around $1K?

http://www.ruger.com/micros/rpr/models.html

hotrodder636
08-06-15, 13:40
While it appears to be a good choice, it's not set up like an M24, which is what the OP stated he was looking for.


How bout this for around $1K?

http://www.ruger.com/micros/rpr/models.html

texasgunhand
08-06-15, 14:17
Remington is fixing to do a massive recall,you might want to check into this before
you buy one. I also would like to get a new precision rifle in .308 to play with and the Remington is hard to beat. Iam still doing the research but the savage is a pretty good buy right now.

PS. I own remingtons but not a savage yet.

tevan0707
08-06-15, 14:20
Remington is fixing to do a massive recall,you might want to check into this before
you buy one.
What type of recall?

texasgunhand
08-06-15, 14:34
What type of recall?

Pretty much all model 600,700 old and even new to fix guns that are firing on there own. My wife's family has a 70s or 80s year model 700 thats fired with no one around it twice and once when the safety was clicked off. Been problem since the 1950s I think. My model 600 has never done it but there was a recall on it many many years ago.

Even their new trigger( their fix to the problem) is effected I think? There's a massive class action being settled right now. As soon As thats settled the recall will start. Some say this is a myth about them fireing on their own but I've seen it and it happened in front of a judge in a court room. So know there's proof , hence the class action suit.

There is a notice on page 91 of the July 2015 issue of the American Rifleman magazine you get with your nra membership. But I've talked to Remington also.

texasgunhand
08-06-15, 14:50
Here's the list I have of effected model numbers...

Model 700, seven, sportsman 78,673,710,715,770,600,660,xp100,721,722 and 725.. any trigger useing Remingtons trigger mechanism that has trigger connector.

Also any 700 or model sevens containing a xmark trigger made from May 1 ,2006 to April 9 ,2014 who didn't participate in the voluntary recall prior to april 14 ,2015

www.remingtonfirearmsclassactionsettlement.com .....has more info. and a way to see if your rifles affected.

This is a Remington web page not some goof ball trying to get clients. Go check yours its free.

Trumpet
08-13-15, 17:01
I'm also considering a Howa 1500 in 6.5 and XLR chassis and a RPR as well....

Jim D
08-21-15, 20:18
I had a 700 SPS AAC for a few months, and it shot like shit and rusted if I looked at it wrong. I tried 4 different types of ammo thought it and never got it below 1.25" or so at 100y.

I just built up a Ruger American Predator in .308 with a cheap Vortex scope (my definition of budget) and a SilencerCo muzzle brake, and it shot XM80 at about 1.1", 168gr Gold Medal at almost exactly 1.0", and 150gr Gold Dot at .87" or so. That was all in the initial zero and 40 rounds through the gun.

I had a Savage 10 .223 26" bbl that shot .41" groups with Hornady 55gr TAP at 100y too.

I get that more accessories are available for Remington 700 pattern rifles, but generally speaking they are no better shooters out of the box than anything else. I sell plenty of them to LE, but they are far from the only game in town for bolt guns these days.

maximus83
08-21-15, 23:24
I'd recommend a Rem 700 because of the OPs requirements. Don't worry about the trigger group/recall issue, you'll want to add an aftermarket jewell or timney trigger anyway, problem solved. Get the AAC or on one of the SPS models so you're pretty well set up out of the box and can easily customize later with the vast array of aftermarket options there are for the 700. I went with an SPS in .308 and it shot 0.6" with Federal Gold Medal match 168gr. I've been gradually upgrading it over time, including Badger bottom metal and Manners stock. If they had a LH AAC model, I probably would have started with that. My experience with the 700 has been really great, accurate and reliable. You can easily get into one for around $700 excluding optics and INcluding a custom trigger group that you can drop in yourself.

fowler
09-02-15, 05:41
Upper end savage have been shooting 1/2" out of the box in most cases with gold medal or other match ammo.

Bimmer
09-02-15, 11:59
Upper end savage have been shooting 1/2" out of the box in most cases with gold medal or other match ammo.

And keep in mind, an "upper end" Savage is $500 or so.

Eurodriver
09-02-15, 14:39
Upper end savage have been shooting 1/2" out of the box in most cases with gold medal or other match ammo.

Maybe I'm jaded or biased, or even both but I have yet to see this.

Maybe with select, 3 shot groups. But many shooters can't even hold a 1/2" group with any rifle and ammo combination for ten rounds, and for a rifle/shooter to do it consistently (that means every group, every range trip) with factory ammo is really hard to believe.

I'm not trying to call BS, because my experiences with Savage rifles are limited, but I have a hand built 20" Krieger in a 700 Action and I know how hard it is to get a 1/2" 10 shot group once.

BigBuckeye
09-05-15, 08:28
This started out as a budget .308

700AAC SD

That's what I like about the 700...you can start cheap and keep upgrading. This one shoots better than I do...

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f398/mgriffin76/image1_zpsnfjjmf55.jpg (http://s51.photobucket.com/user/mgriffin76/media/image1_zpsnfjjmf55.jpg.html)

Jim D
09-05-15, 10:35
Maybe I'm jaded or biased, or even both but I have yet to see this.

Maybe with select, 3 shot groups. But many shooters can't even hold a 1/2" group with any rifle and ammo combination for ten rounds, and for a rifle/shooter to do it consistently (that means every group, every range trip) with factory ammo is really hard to believe.

I'm not trying to call BS, because my experiences with Savage rifles are limited, but I have a hand built 20" Krieger in a 700 Action and I know how hard it is to get a 1/2" 10 shot group once.

I was able to do it with a Savage 10FP in .223 with Hornady 55gr TAP ammo. That thing shot .41" off bags at 100y.

I've never shot a Remington (or anything else, either) that could do that with the factory barreled action.

My Ruger American .308 is hovering between .87" and 1.1" with 150gr Gold Dot and 168gr Gold Medal Match now, for multiple different 5 shot groups.

I think you're correct though, in that a lot of people aren't shooting 10 round groups, and more than a few aren't even doing 5 shot groups.

waveslayer
11-19-15, 21:18
go R700 5r, awesome for the money

andersenvincent7
12-03-15, 19:57
Remington 700 SPS, just replace the stock.

Bear1
12-09-15, 18:52
Savage 110>r700
Accutrigger > trigger that blows up in your face

QC on R700s has dropped dramatically since being under new management

If you want a R700 buy used

Lefty223
12-09-15, 20:22
And keep in mind, an "upper end" Savage is $500 or so.
So true, as I bought the 11VT heavy/varmint barrel 308 w/ accu-trigger for $325 on sale and after rebates. Sub-MOA all day long, same groupings using GM or high-power mimic loads of same bullet over 4895.