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McQ68
07-18-08, 23:26
Just happened to look on Para-USA website. They're advertising their new gas piston AR for sale this fall. 5.56mm, 16.5 in chrome lined-1 in 9" barrel, flattop, folding stock MSRP $2297 with complete uppers coming in 2009. ck it out :cool:

Robb Jensen
07-18-08, 23:29
They aren't exactly new, Para-Ord now owns ZM Weapons.

McQ68
07-18-08, 23:33
I'd heard they had bought them out-new for Para:cool: Are they any good, problems-complaints?

Olav
07-19-08, 00:08
It was talked about here a little while ago:

ZM Weapon/Para thread (http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=16046)

I have a ZM Weapons LR300 and it's a fine weapon. No complaints.

Oh, and it's not a gas piston AR.

"The new Para Tactical Target Rifle with its Direct Impinged Gas System™ (DIGS™) gets you back on target faster than any other rifle of its kind. The recoil spring is over the op-rod so there is no “twang” in your ear as your head rests on the rifle’s stock while the bolt cycles between shots. "

From their own page you mentioned:

New(Old) AR (http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_rifle.php)

McQ68
07-19-08, 00:33
OK-thanks-I'll look closer next time-overpriced?

McQ68
07-19-08, 00:49
I guess what lead me astray was their marketing phrase of "the gas flows thru the MIS system...making it the cleanest running autoloading rifle in the world" That will teach me to believe every thing I read:rolleyes:

mark5pt56
07-19-08, 06:58
To qoute an old gun plumber- "it's still a shit pumper"

It's ok and I've shot them, I don't feel the price tag is relevant to what you get though.

variablebinary
07-19-08, 09:33
I always liked the look of the older model LR300.

http://img25.echo.cx/img25/4172/rail1eg.jpg

rifleshooter
07-19-08, 12:17
Just happened to look on Para-USA website. They're advertising their new gas piston AR for sale this fall. 5.56mm, 16.5 in chrome lined-1 in 9" barrel, flattop, folding stock MSRP $2297 with complete uppers coming in 2009. ck it out :cool:

I don't see a piston Para AR.?

http://www.para-usa.com/new/product_rifle.php

It says it's a "The new Para Tactical Target Rifle with its Direct Impinged Gas System™ (DIGS™) "

McQ68
07-19-08, 12:31
As I stated above, and it has been politely pointed out by others(thank you), I was sucked in by the twist of marketing semantics:eek: It's more of what they didn't say, as opposed to what they said. I will now quietly step back into the shadows.