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Alpha-17
06-27-15, 15:57
“When I shoot, the top of the rifle flies off,” Mahd Abdul Basit, a 28-year-old Peshmerga fighter told me while we stood a few hundred meters from Islamic State’s front line.

Unlike many Kurdish troops, who must purchase their own weapons, Mahd’s rifle — a taped-up Kalashnikov appearing to be made from several different rifles— was issued to him, and could still one day cost him his life.

Mahd stood in one of the Peshmerga’s newly-built fortifications, known as “citadels.” The sandbagged position, just 15 days old, is one of many that now punctuates the arid flat land on the front line southwest of the oil-rich city of Kirkuk.

Before January, this was Islamic State territory. A Kurdish offensive drove the militants back several kilometers — and both sides dug in for a long fight. Islamic State fighters are now entrenched about 800 meters away from the position, and still definitely a threat.

Coalition air strikes, advisers and weapons are helping, but the coalition’s strategy for arming the Kurds has been criticized for worsening divisions in the already fractured Peshmerga. During a recent visit to the front line, we had a chance to observe the situation directly.

A trickle of Western weapons have circulated among the Kurdish troops — but they’re still not enough. Most Peshmerga fighters still rely on ancient Kalashnikovs that have suffered through decades of wear and tear. Soldiers are going months without pay.

But if the fighters have few decent weapons, they have fewer good options. If Islamic State breaks through the lines and the Kurdish cities fall, their families would almost certainly be killed or enslaved.
Above — one of many “citadels” that now protect part of the front line near Kirkuk. At top — a Kurdish Peshmerga sergeant holds his German government-donated G36 assault rifle. Matt Cetti-Roberts photos

The United States Senate recently blocked direct weapons shipments to the Kurds under the proposed $1.6-billion “train-and-equip” fund. To receive weapons the Peshmerga must go through the Iraqi central government— which hasn’t always seen eye to eye with the Kurdistan Regional Government.

To make it clear, American and German weapons have reached the Kurds, but these stumbling political blocs have left some soldiers unprepared for battle.

When War Is Boring interviewed Peshmerga Gen. Hussein Mansoor in July 2014, he said his troops’ equipment was old and worn out. The situation has changed little since then, and that’s directly affecting the combat performance of soldiers on the ground.

“Each day there is usually a fight with Daesh,” Sheikh Jaffer, a Kurdish adviser to generals on the front line near Kirkuk, said. “Often gunshots are exchanged, sometimes they [ISIS] come close to the front line.”

Peshmerga fighters aligned with the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan are the main force in this area — although they’re not the only ones. The PUK is an opposition party that holds power in Iraqi Kurdistan’s eastern regions.
Train tracks leading to Islamic State territory wind across the sun-parched view from a Peshmerga position near Kirkuk. An Islamic State T-55 tank, knocked out in a coalition airstrike, is visible next to the tracks in the center top of the image. Matt Cetti-Roberts photo

Jaffar said that the MILAN anti-tank guided missile, supplied by Germany, is the best weapon for dealing with Islamic State’s huge explosive-packed armored vehicles. The terror group often sends these vehicles and their suicidal drivers to soften up Kurdish lines before conventional assaults.

But he said they still need equipment to deal with countless explosive devices littering the battlefield. Islamic State typically plants booby traps whenever its fighters retreat. And by far, improvised explosives are the number one cause of Kurdish casualties in Iraq.

When asked about weapons sent by the coalition, Jaffar said they don’t receive enough. “Sometimes the coalition doles out weapons unevenly,” he said.

At the headquarters for the Peshmerga’s 1st Battalion, 6th Brigade, deputy commander Col. Sulaiman Ali held up a rifle in an office that doubled as his bedroom. Numerals inscribed on the left side of the battered and scarred Kalashnikov dated it to 1975 — the rifle has been in use for 40 years.

When Kurdish fighters told me that they fought with weapons from Saddam Hussein’s time … it’s not the type of weapons they were talking about. They literally meant the actual, specific guns they held in their hands.

Islamic State, on the other hand, has seized millions of dollars worth of modern equipment including rifles, tanks and heavy crew-served weapons following victories over the Iraqi army. Some of its suicide vehicles are captured American-made Humvees and mine-resistant armored vehicles.

Not surprisingly, many Peshmerga fighters criticize Western aid to the Iraqi army — that it’s basically the equivalent of just giving it all to Islamic State.
A ZU-23–2 23-millimeter anti-aircraft cannon and 82-millimeter mortar in a platoon position atop on of the Peshmerga’s “citadels” near Kirkuk. Matt Cett-Roberts photo

Sulaiman’s headquarters sat near Maktab Khalid, a Turkmen area southwest of Kirkuk. At one point, the no-man’s land between Islamic State and Peshmerga lines narrowed to around 30 meters, with each side facing off across a small bridge.

Sulaiman was not happy with the battalion’s armaments. “The weapons are old, sometimes they stop shooting,” he said.

The Kurdish fighters also have trouble hitting their targets. That has a lot to do with the fact that Kalashnikovs are the most common weapon here — and they’re not built for fine-tuned precision at a distance.

Many of the Kurds’ rifles have old and worn-out barrels, which further decreases accuracy. The barrels’ conditions have continued to deteriorate after a year of heavy fighting.

Sulaiman’s battalion, like many other Peshmerga units, received some German-donated G36 and G3 rifles — about 40 for for 600 men. But the actual figures for weapons sent to the KRG in total, either directly or through Baghdad, is vague and usually calculated in cost, rather than in definitive per-weapon numbers.

Soldiers like to complain — that’s a fact of military life around the world. But to be sure, the Kurdish fighters have some legitimate grievances.
Kurdish fighter Mahd Abdul Basit holds up his tape-covered Kalashnikov which appears to have been made from several different weapons. Matt Cetti-Roberts photo

Universally the Peshmerga fighters I’ve spoken to say they’re fighting to defend their homeland — and there’s no reason to doubt that. They’re willing fight … and die. It’s a major reason why Islamic State hasn’t made it through to Iraqi Kurdistan’s major cities, with the exception of the occasional suicide bomber and even that is rare compared to Baghdad.

But many fighters have families to support, and money worries are taking a toll. The KRG still relies on the Iraqi government in Baghdad for money, and the lack of cash has driven some Kurdish troops into debt. At the time of my June 14 visit, fighters in this part of the front line had not received pay for around 100 days.

“Some Peshmerga have had to leave because they cannot support their families,” Sulaiman said. He pointed to a wedding ring and said that many fighters have had to sell theirs to feed their families.

Back at the citadel, Mahd and his platoon ate lunch beneath a blue tarpaulin held up by wooden posts. It was a moment of respite from the baking heat. A few meters away in a dug-in defensive position, an 82-millimeter mortar and a truck-mounted ZU-32–2 anti-aircraft cannon sat waiting in case of an attack.
Yaseen Al Rasheem keeps watch from his platoon’s position on the Kirkuk front line. Matt Cetti-Roberts photo

“It is the only job I have to support my children,” Sgt. Yaseen Al Rasheem, a 10-year Peshmerga veteran, said. “Jobs are hard to come by these days.”

The war has put pressure on his family, forcing them to cut back expenses. “I asked them to not spend too much money, take less trips to see family and save on food,” he said. “Sometimes they do not eat meat.”

His time away hasn’t made their situation any easier. Since the conflict began, he’s been called back from leave 15 times — sometimes only spending enough time at home to change his clothes before heading back to the front line.

Mahd, the fighter with the taped-up Chinese rifle, has experienced similar financial problems. Like many members of the Peshmerga, he has another job — when he’s off duty — to pay the bills, something unthinkable in many Western armies.

“I am a laborer, mostly moving construction materials in Kirkuk,” Mahd said.

An average 10-hour working day brings in $16. His time away from the front line doesn’t leave much time for relaxing. “When I return home I head straight to work.”

In contrast to Mahd’s battered Kalashnikov, Yaseen has a German-supplied G36 rifle, which he received nine months ago. Despite problems with the weapon that provoked the German army to consider dropping it, the Kurdish fighters love them.
Kurdish fighter Mahd Abdul Basit stands on top of his platoon’s “citadel” near Maktab Khalid. Matt Cetti-Roberts photo

“It is reliable, it does not stop,” Capt. Niqib Yasim said.

Niqib is responsible for the deployment of troops along the 1st Battalion’s defensive line. He credited the G36’s built-in sights for enabling his soldiers to shoot further and more accurately.

Despite potential logistical problems arising from many different types of ammunition in service along the front, for some Peshmerga units the only problem is not having enough bullets to go around, according to Niqib. The Kurds must frequently conserve their ammunition during firefights.

“Sometimes when shooting at ISIS and they are a long distance away, the guys with Kalashnikovs must sit and do nothing,” Niqib said. “Only the G36, G3 and 23-mm [the ZU-23–2] are good enough.”

Making matters more complicated is the Peshmerga’s sheer size — and the question of how big it actually is. Nobody seems to know. Estimates run anywhere between 80,000 to 250,000 soldiers, including volunteer fighters.
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The Peshmerga also includes units loyal to two different factions — the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan and the Kurdish Democratic Party. In addition, there are more units answering directly to the Ministry of Peshmerga which comprise around 30 percent of the force’s total strength.

At the moment, everything comes down to the fighters on the front line such as Mahd, with his ancient Kalashnikov. When he said he’s afraid of his rifle failing him, he’s not alone.

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/kurdish-troops-grumble-our-junk-weapons-are-killing-us-67ca31b817d

Interesting article. What I find surprising is that the Kurds refer to the G36 as a "long range weapon". I understand the magnified optic would certainly help, but if the design had the massive POI shift/wandering zero issue that's been reported, wouldn't that negate any advantage the optic provides?

MountainRaven
06-27-15, 16:08
I would guess that the G36 is a "long range weapon" by virtue of it having better sights for long range engagements than the Kalashnikov, the 5.56mm cartridge having a longer maximum point blank range than the 7.62x39mm, and the newer rifles not having barrels that have been shot out.

If their AKs hadn't been shot to shit and they had red dots or low fixed-power scopes on them with a rudimentary ranging reticle, things would probably be better for the Peshmerga with AKs.

Maybe we can talk Israel to pulling some Galils and FALs out of storage and shipping them to the Kurds. Or maybe some captured AKs in better condition.

foxtrotx1
06-27-15, 17:32
I would guess that the G36 is a "long range weapon" by virtue of it having better sights for long range engagements than the Kalashnikov, the 5.56mm cartridge having a longer maximum point blank range than the 7.62x39mm, and the newer rifles not having barrels that have been shot out.

If their AKs hadn't been shot to shit and they had red dots or low fixed-power scopes on them with a rudimentary ranging reticle, things would probably be better for the Peshmerga with AKs.

Maybe we can talk Israel to pulling some Galils and FALs out of storage and shipping them to the Kurds. Or maybe some captured AKs in better condition.

Yeah, Maybe the U.S. Gov can ship them truck loads of M16a1 and A2s as well.

MountainRaven
06-27-15, 18:54
Yeah, Maybe the U.S. Gov can ship them truck loads of M16a1 and A2s as well.

We have some that we haven't given to Argentina, Israel, the ANA/ANP, and/or ISIS (by way of the Iraqi (run away!) army)?

Alpha-17
06-28-15, 09:28
We have some that we haven't given to Argentina, Israel, the ANA/ANP, and/or ISIS (by way of the Iraqi (run away!) army)?

If not, we'll just have to order some. Gotta keep Colt in business!

On a more serious note, it is too bad that the US won't directly arm the Kurds. They could be a major power in the region, if we weren't concerned with keeping Turkey happy.

montrala
06-28-15, 10:28
I understand the magnified optic would certainly help, but if the design had the massive POI shift/wandering zero issue that's been reported, wouldn't that negate any advantage the optic provides?

Apparently Peshmerga did not get the memo from German politicians, that their G36s are supposed to be crappy and inaccurate. Maybe they can not read in German? Anyway, lets not tell then and I bet G36 will work fine for them.

Firefly
06-28-15, 11:07
You know...I feel bad for them.
They are really trying. I fail to see where they ddon'trate decent gear.
Everyone parrots the 'ruggedness' of AKs but one that is shot out is just as worthless as anything else worn out.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings if they got a few goodwill crates ARs with at least basic 4x optical gunsights.

joffe
06-28-15, 11:20
Every European nation that has replaced their G3s with modern rifles ought to donate them to the Peshmerga. That would be more than enough G3s for every fighter they can muster.

MountainRaven
06-28-15, 12:00
Every European nation that has replaced their G3s with modern rifles ought to donate them to the Peshmerga. That would be more than enough G3s for every fighter they can muster.

Well, Sweden (and probably Norway) is probably more concerned about Russia and arming the Baltic states. So there go some G3s.

CRAMBONE
06-28-15, 12:30
I fail to see where they ddon'trate decent gear.

Turkey. That's the answer plain and simple. If it wasn't for the Turks and Kurds historical issues we would be arming them faster than the Iraqi and Afghan govts.

Alpha-17
06-28-15, 13:45
Every European nation that has replaced their G3s with modern rifles ought to donate them to the Peshmerga. That would be more than enough G3s for every fighter they can muster.

They reference G3s in the article (and that the Kurds seem to really like them), so they're obviously getting some. That said, it looks like they're not getting many for the same reason they're not getting many G36s: Turkey, and the Iraqi central government.

ThirdWatcher
07-01-15, 06:10
I hate politics.

Bret
07-05-15, 21:15
On a more serious note, it is too bad that the US won't directly arm the Kurds. They could be a major power in the region, if we weren't concerned with keeping Turkey happy.
Don't forget that many of the Kurds are communists. While they're certainly on the right side of things now, that could change when/if ISIS is defeated.

Moose-Knuckle
07-06-15, 00:15
Yeah I ass-u-me the Kurds are getting a hodge-podge of old Soviet era AKs that have their barrels shot out among other things.

glocktogo
07-06-15, 00:53
Don't forget that many of the Kurds are communists. While they're certainly on the right side of things now, that could change when/if ISIS is defeated.

The PKK are still listed as a foreign terrorist organization by DoS. They met with the PYD last fall (Syrian affiliate of the PKK), but nothing ever came of it, at least officially. There is still a MAJOR stumbling block for the US to arm the Kurds, when our ally Turkey considers them pretty much sub-human. The Turks may be fierce fighters, but they're not doing us much good sitting at home on the sidelines. Meanwhile, there are around 30 MILLION stateless Kurds in the region who are also fierce fighters, given the right tools for the job. The only reason the PKK are on the DoS FTO list and the PYD aren't, is because of which country they each target.

Consider this. If your ethnic group had been oppressed for nearly a century by a so-called "democratic" nation, supported by the biggest "Democracy" on the planet, you might lean towards being a communist too. Our tactics may be all about 4GW, but our strategic alliances pretty much scream the 1950's. Let's face it, the Iraqi's were never cut out for the job and the Turks don't want it. It's time to fish or cut bait. :(

Bret
07-06-15, 07:55
I agree with what you're saying except the part about "being a communist too". Individual rights and communism don't go hand in hand. From what I've read, a good number of the Kurds are true believers in communism. It seems like the right thing to do right now would be to help them, but if/when ISIS is defeated we shouldn't be surprised if they turn our weapons on the Iraqi army (what little there is). BTW, I do think that the Kurds should be able to have their own country regardless of what the Turks think.

glocktogo
07-06-15, 23:58
I agree with what you're saying except the part about "being a communist too". Individual rights and communism don't go hand in hand. From what I've read, a good number of the Kurds are true believers in communism. It seems like the right thing to do right now would be to help them, but if/when ISIS is defeated we shouldn't be surprised if they turn our weapons on the Iraqi army (what little there is). BTW, I do think that the Kurds should be able to have their own country regardless of what the Turks think.

As an old Cold War relic myself, I'm to the point that communism might be preferable to the miasma that is the ME these days. Given "individual rights", they always seem to wind up killing each other at an alarming rate. :(

Bret
07-07-15, 07:56
I don't think they're killing each other because of a belief in individual rights. They're killing each other precisely because they have absolutely no respect for life period, much less the individual rights of others. Their belief system is polar opposite of what our country was founded upon. It's sad that so many in our country are headed in their direction (away from the belief in individual rights).

glocktogo
07-07-15, 09:01
I don't think they're killing each other because of a belief in individual rights. They're killing each other precisely because they have absolutely no respect for life period, much less the individual rights of others. Their belief system is polar opposite of what our country was founded upon. It's sad that so many in our country are headed in their direction (away from the belief in individual rights).

I couldn't agree more. :(

Malamute
07-24-15, 18:57
I dont think the Turkish Kurds version of communism is the same as we think of when thinking of the past Com-bloc countries that wanted to subvert others to their way. They seem to like the west and the US for the most part in any event.

Other Kurds are building what they call inclusive Democracy. Minorities and women are guaranteed inclusion in government. They make alliances with other minorities and take in minority refugees like the Yezidis (was PKK who went to help rescue them from ISIS on Sinjar Mtn). They are a mix of sunni, shia, Christian, Yezidi, Assyrian, and Jew, and dont seem to give preference for or against any of those groups. They even have some Arabs and Turkmen fighting with them. They seem like the most sane people in the area for the most part. I also wish that the politics wouldnt keep them from getting weapons to fight ISIS. Theyre doing a better job than anyone else has, even with old weapons.

montrala
07-25-15, 08:12
Kurds seem to be only reasonable "solution" for this region and they deserve all help they can get. Unfortunately EU prefers to take refugees and force them onto member countries, more than help Kurds to remove source of refugees in first place.

Good start would be sending them all those "faulty G36" that Germans do not love any more.

kunc
08-04-15, 22:40
It's appalling we are not helping the Kurds more. They are pretty much the only respectable group of people in the whole middle east. Saying the Kurds are communists is like saying that Americans are all democrats. The are different groups with different ideologies. The YPG is the largest Kurd group fighting Daesh. They are the army of the Kurdish Supreme Committee or the government of Rojava, who are democratics socialists.

glocktogo
08-05-15, 00:20
It's appalling we are not helping the Kurds more. They are pretty much the only respectable group of people in the whole middle east. Saying the Kurds are communists is like saying that Americans are all democrats. The are different groups with different ideologies. The YPG is the largest Kurd group fighting Daesh. They are the army of the Kurdish Supreme Committee or the government of Rojava, who are democratics socialists.

Helping them? We just gave Turkey the green light to bomb them! We wanted Turkey in the fray against ISIS so bad that we're looking the other way while their strikes are about 20% ISIS, 80% Kurds!

There is no moral high ground in this "war on terrorism" anymore (if there ever was). :mad: