View Full Version : Now It's Gotten Serious..Rebel Flag Bikini's Banned....
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/06/23/confederate-flag-ebay-amazon-wal-mart/29153223/
From a bikini to a bottle opener to a belt buckle, the Confederate flag shows up on all sorts of merchandise online.
On Tuesday afternoon, online marketplace eBay said it would ban the sale of the flags and "many items containing this image,"Johanna Hoof, an eBay spokeswoman, told USA TODAY Network. Just hours after eBay's announcement, an Amazon official, who was not authorized to comment publicly, confirmed that Amazon is pulling down Confederate flag merchandise.
http://southronthunder.blog.com/files/2010/05/flag-bikini-1.jpg
Only haters could hate this, better get your prebans now.
And can somebody please go arrest Kanye for his hate crime.
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2013/news/131118/kanye-west-300.jpg
(Best fake Scottish Accent) "They can take our rights and our Flags, but they'll never take our women's bikinis!" (End fake Scottish Accent).
Between stuff like this, and The Dukes of Hazard being pulled, this has surpassed ridiculous. It makes gun stores pulling ARs after Sandy Hook look sane.
Business_Casual
07-04-15, 14:36
This means war!
Reminds me of Nazi Germany, only left and not right wing banning and burning. Being a Northerner, who lived in Charleston for many years, I think I'm going to start buying up Confederate merchandise just to piss them off.
This is the worst kind of "me too" crap.
God bless or PC culture. Such greatness, such........ Horseshit.
Note to self:
-Bruce is a Caitlyn now
-pointing guns at cops is ok if I am in the multi cultural category
-confederate flag bad
WTF........ Oh just wait. Someday were gonna be like "I miss the simpler times, like when gas was only $3, Bruce wasn't a dude anymore, and confederate flags weren't ok anymore......ah, them was the days son....."
You know if people cared this much about shit that actually ****ing mattered we would have colonized Mars by now.
I'm pretty well done with humanity at this point.
Might as well ban "Daisy Dukes" while they're at it...after all they came from the now forbidden show Dukes of Hazard with the Confederate Flag painted on the General Lee.. Geeze! Dare I ask what's next!?!
Outlander Systems
07-04-15, 15:04
http://youtu.be/TUFKW49wSpA
I'm pretty well done with humanity at this point.
It does make a person wonder...
You know if people cared this much about shit that actually ****ing mattered we would have colonized Mars by now.
We'd be mining raw diamonds from Jupiter's atmosphere.
(Best fake Scottish Accent) "They can take our rights and our Flags, but they'll never take our women's bikinis!" (End fake Scottish Accent).
Between stuff like this, and The Dukes of Hazard being pulled, this has surpassed ridiculous. It makes gun stores pulling ARs after Sandy Hook look sane.
You knew the current owner of the original General Lee is painting over the rebel flag on the roof and replacing it with a US flag didn't you?
This is all so bizarre to me, it's amazing how easy it is to declare something a "symbol of hate" and have it enforced and supported. From time to time I wear a shirt with a Buddhist swastika. It's yellow on black with chinese characters under it so it doesn't immediately invoke the nazi symbol. I've had some looks, even a few questions from elderly people most of whom I presume to be jewish and who are content with the explanation, but as it stands right now, I think wearing a rebel flag patch is being declared the equivalent of wearing a NSDAP armband.
I'm not especially sympathetic to the redneck south, generally they drive me crazy with their stupid ass oversize pickup tricks, shitty music and willingness to rev anything with an engine in their driveway for up to 4 hours. But in places where those stupid trucks with their rebel flag plates and paint schemes are predominant, I've never seen anyone hassle anyone for being black and I've seen more than a few instances of people coming to the defense of black people attending the "chili cookoff" or whatever is going on when it looked like somebody was being hassled.
And I've only been to South Carolina a few times, to me I think I could best describe most of the people I met as "the most polite people I've ever encountered" and that is regardless of race. Somehow I must have missed all of the idiots when I was there.
Repainting the General Lee!!!!!! WTF! I knew I shouldn't have asked!
Does this mean my autographed model will be worth more money someday? :confused:
Repainting the General Lee!!!!!! WTF! I knew I shouldn't have asked!
Does this mean my autographed model will be worth more money someday? :confused:
Model as in model car or actual autographed charger? If it's the latter I hate you.
Model as in model car or actual autographed charger? If it's the latter I hate you.
Lol! I wish! It's a model I waited in line for hours at a World Of Wheels car show in Chicago for "Bo's" autograph. I've always wanted to build a replica though!
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Those were great memories from my childhood, now they're f**king it all up over dumb sh*t!
KalashniKEV
07-04-15, 16:27
I say bring on the ban...
http://picture-cdn.wheretoget.it/56ufvk-l-330.jpg
They'll still be available black market, only now it'll be all hot and taboo when chicks wear them.
Plus as a Yankee, I can demand removal of the colors and payment of reparations...
Lol! I wish! It's a model I waited in line for hours at a World Of Wheels car show in Chicago for "Bo's" autograph. I've always wanted to build a replica though!
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Those were great memories from my childhood, now they're f**king it all up over dumb sh*t!
Yes, I fondly remember that show and how Bo and Luke were always hating black people and saying fags should die...oh wait...that never happened.
Yes, I fondly remember that show and how Bo and Luke were always hating black people and saying fags should die...oh wait...that never happened.
Guess I never took that from the show, was more jumping cars, and arrows tipped with explosives to me. I do remember some of the "bad guys" were often black, but what shows didn't? The fags... Definitely don't remember any of that.
Lol, see post below :) I gotcha
Whiskey_Bravo
07-04-15, 16:44
Guess I never took that from the show, was more jumping cars, and arrows tipped with explosives to me. I do remember some of the "bad guys" were often black, but what shows didn't? The fag's... Definitely don't remember any of that.
You need to actually read his post.
You need to actually read his post.
Gotcha lol, sarcasm
Yes, I fondly remember that show and how Bo and Luke were always hating black people and saying fags should die...oh wait...that never happened.
My bad Steyr, I've had a few...
"Just two good ole boys, never meanin' no harm"
morbidbattlecry
07-04-15, 16:55
I think they are trying to help us out. Now when i see a hottie in a Flag Bikini i'll tell her i'm offended and she needs to take it off right now. I really don't see how she can say no because i'm offended....:D
Another pic for reference so we all know the hatred were up against......
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/04/5f1676065ace8a8a89d116b3b46df5f3.jpg
PatrioticDisorder
07-04-15, 18:06
Reminds me of Nazi Germany, only left and not right wing banning and burning. Being a Northerner, who lived in Charleston for many years, I think I'm going to start buying up Confederate merchandise just to piss them off.
This is the worst kind of "me too" crap.
Despite the revisionist historians the Nazis (national SOCIALIST party) were leftists, it's actually the reason Stalin was literally SHOCKED when Hitler attacker Russia after signing a non aggression pact, Stalin saw Hitler as cut from the same cloth and looking West not East.
Despite the revisionist historians the Nazis (national SOCIALIST party) were leftists, it's actually the reason Stalin was literally SHOCKED when Hitler attacker Russia after signing a non aggression pact, Stalin saw Hitler as cut from the same cloth and looking West not East.
Uh, no.
Hitler wasn't a big fan of Marx.
Stalin was shocked because he thought he had a few more years.
morbidbattlecry
07-04-15, 19:31
Another pic for reference so we all know the hatred were up against......
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/04/5f1676065ace8a8a89d116b3b46df5f3.jpg
That's awful.Here is another so we know for sure.
http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx14/Morbidbattlecry/flag_bikini1_zpsmbwfcwlj.jpg (http://s737.photobucket.com/user/Morbidbattlecry/media/flag_bikini1_zpsmbwfcwlj.jpg.html)
PatrioticDisorder
07-04-15, 19:34
Uh, no.
Hitler wasn't a big fan of Marx.
Stalin was shocked because he thought he had a few more years.
Yes there were clearly differences, but both are forms of statism. What Hitler viewed Marxism as was of little importance, what Stalin viewed Nazism as was of significant importance. Stalin viewed Nazism as another form of statism and felt deeply betrayed when Hitler attacked the USSR.
If you can't see that, perhaps you should take a critical look at what propaganda you were taught in the public screwels, Hitler was most definitely a statist (leftist).
Uh, no.
Hitler wasn't a big fan of Marx.
Stalin was shocked because he thought he had a few more years.
Hitler was not a fan of communism, however the "National Socialist German Workers Party" was left wing. Ironically it was patterned after Mussolini's fascist government which was right wing. Ernst Rohm was the most ardent "socialist" of the NSDAP and saw commonality with the USSR. For this and other reasons he was disposed of when the time came.
There is a lot of confusion because at the two extremes, statist governments have more in common with each other than anything in the middle. The NSDAP roots in the Freikorp is what put it at odds with Marxist communism as they were the two competing factions for power in Germany.
From wiki:
The party was created as a means to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism. Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric, although such aspects were later downplayed in order to gain the support of industrial entities, and in the 1930s the party's focus shifted to anti-Semitic and anti-Marxist themes.
PatrioticDisorder
07-04-15, 19:48
Hitler was not a fan of communism, however the "National Socialist German Workers Party" was left wing. Ironically it was patterned after Mussolini's fascist government which was right wing. Ernst Rohm was the most ardent "socialist" of the NSDAP and saw commonality with the USSR. For this and other reasons he was disposed of when the time came.
There is a lot of confusion because at the two extremes, statist governments have more in common with each other than anything in the middle. The NSDAP roots in the Freikorp is what put it at odds with Marxist communism as they were the two competing factions for power in Germany.
From wiki:
The party was created as a means to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism. Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric, although such aspects were later downplayed in order to gain the support of industrial entities, and in the 1930s the party's focus shifted to anti-Semitic and anti-Marxist themes.
Yep and what's sad as you see all rhe commie scum trying to hang that nazi bullshit around the necks of libertarians when nothing further can be from the truth.
Yes there were clearly differences, but both are forms of statism. What Hitler viewed Marxism as was of little importance, what Stalin viewed Nazism as was of significant importance. Stalin viewed Nazism as another form of statism and felt deeply betrayed when Hitler attacked the USSR.
If you can't see that, perhaps you should take a critical look at what propaganda you were taught in the public screwels, Hitler was most definitely a statist (leftist).
Stalin talked openly to his inner circle that the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact had bought them a few years to get their war industry up to support a war with Germany.
Traditional left-right "wings" have Communism and Socialism on the far left, with conservatism and fascism on the far right. I have seen others with Stalinism on the left, and total anarchy on the right, but these are recent spectrums.
While I do think these political spectrums have validity, they do not work well when dealing with syncretic parties, such as the NSDAP.
Hitler was not a fan of communism, however the "National Socialist German Workers Party" was left wing. Ironically it was patterned after Mussolini's fascist government which was right wing. Ernst Rohm was the most ardent "socialist" of the NSDAP and saw commonality with the USSR. For this and other reasons he was disposed of when the time came.
There is a lot of confusion because at the two extremes, statist governments have more in common with each other than anything in the middle.
We both know that people put names in their parties or states that have no reflection whatsoever on reality. ex. "Republic", "Democratic", etc.
You pretty much answer it in your first paragraph. Rohm and his "Second Revolution" led to his liquidation. That, and his comments about incorporating the Reichsheer into the SA.
Yes, the far right and the far left are essentially the same thing, but for different reasons.
The NSDAP roots in the Freikorp is what put it at odds with Marxist communism as they were the two competing factions for power in Germany. Source?
Yep and what's sad as you see all rhe commie scum trying to hang that nazi bullshit around the necks of libertarians when nothing further can be from the truth.
Facts don't matter anymore.
If I had a dollar for every time somebody said "Maybe that's what it used to mean..." in a discussion, I'd be a very rich man. Words, and to a greater extent symbols, no longer have meaning because they are what an uniformed majority of the population decides they are.
"Thug" is no longer a word coined by the black community to show adherence and / or support of it's criminal elements. Now it is a word used by racists as a "code slur", except of course for those times when it is used by the black community to show adherence and / or support of it's criminal elements.
The rebel flag has now been equated to a hate symbol on par with the Nazi swastika, however communist symbols are still acceptable expression of rejection of American Imperialism (whatever the hell that actually is, I can't think of a single American colony in our empire). Never mind that millions died under the hammer and sickle, it's still just a symbol of rebellion and nothing more. But the CSA flag is about slavery and nothing more.
I think I'm going to just start flying this to confuse idiots.
http://www.classicalvalues.com/RebelRainbow.JPG
You knew the current owner of the original General Lee is painting over the rebel flag on the roof and replacing it with a US flag didn't you?
I'm not especially sympathetic to the redneck south, shitty music
Now don't you go hating on Molly Hatchet and Skynrd on me.
I've only been to South Carolina a few times, to me I think I could best describe most of the people I met as "the most polite people I've ever encountered" and that is regardless of race. Somehow I must have missed all of the idiots when I was there.
Some of the most likable folks in the Country and I'm sure their embarrassment and politeness is behind their allowance for this baloney to continue.
Source?
Basic history of the Wiemar Republic and the NSDAP. If you really want to get into it, probably nothing better than Shrier's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich."
http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Third-Reich-ebook/dp/B005Z57E18/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1436060173&sr=1-1&keywords=rise+and+fall+of+the+third+reich
Basic history of the Wiemar Republic and the NSDAP. If you really want to get into it, probably nothing better than Shrier's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich."
http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fall-Third-Reich-ebook/dp/B005Z57E18/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1436060173&sr=1-1&keywords=rise+and+fall+of+the+third+reich
Source as in the only reason the NSDAP was anti-Marxist is because of Freikorp members.
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, as much as I enjoyed this book being one of the first I read on the subject, is academically unsound. The NSDAP was not the logical culmination of German history.
morbidbattlecry
07-04-15, 20:57
Facts don't matter anymore.
If I had a dollar for every time somebody said "Maybe that's what it used to mean..." in a discussion, I'd be a very rich man. Words, and to a greater extent symbols, no longer have meaning because they are what an uniformed majority of the population decides they are.
"Thug" is no longer a word coined by the black community to show adherence and / or support of it's criminal elements. Now it is a word used by racists as a "code slur", except of course for those times when it is used by the black community to show adherence and / or support of it's criminal elements.
The rebel flag has now been equated to a hate symbol on par with the Nazi swastika, however communist symbols are still acceptable expression of rejection of American Imperialism (whatever the hell that actually is, I can't think of a single American colony in our empire). Never mind that millions died under the hammer and sickle, it's still just a symbol of rebellion and nothing more. But the CSA flag is about slavery and nothing more.
I think I'm going to just start flying this to confuse idiots.
http://www.classicalvalues.com/RebelRainbow.JPG
Is that like for gay confederates? I always sorta wondered about those Dukes boys...
Source as in the only reason the NSDAP was anti-Marxist is because of Freikorp members.
The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, as much as I enjoyed this book being one of the first I read on the subject, is academically unsound. The NSDAP was not the logical culmination of German history.
I think you read a bit more into my sentence than intended.
I didn't intend to suggest anything was a "sole contributor" to the creation of the NSDAP. As with many political movements it had many origins and often formed in ways unintended by the creators (just ask Trotsky how he felt about Stalinism).
If you have already read "Rise and Fall" then I'm assuming you are well versed on the subject so I'll see if I can get us on the same page.
1. The NSDAP was created out of the Freikorp movemnent as they served as the founding members of the German Workers Party which then became the National Socialists German Workers Party.
2. Key members of the founding group, such as Joseph Goebbels and Ernst Rohm were true socialists and supported a socialist revolution based upon anti capitalist ideas.
3. In the struggle for power in the Wiemar Republic and Reichstag, the German Communist Party was the only other political party that posed a genuine threat to the NSDAP. This contest for power is the primary reason the NSDAP had an anti communist agenda. The fact that the two groups had several political similarities was irrelevant as each was seeking political power.
As for Shrier's book, I don't recall him writing or even suggesting that the NSDAP was a logical culmination or inevitability. He simply cited the events that led to that outcome. Certainly the Wiemar Republic would not survive the dual blow of the Economic Depression and the death of Hindenburg, but history still could have gone a few different ways. But as Hitler was Chancellor of a coalition government at the time of Hindenburgs death he was in a favorable position to take control of everything, and that is what happened starting with the "enabling act."
Franz von Papen was intended to be the "power check" that kept Hitler in place, but he was politically outmaneuvered by Nazi party members. Von Papen did challenge Hitler and the Nazi's with the Marburg Speech but following the Night of the Long Knives he resigned with no successor. With the death of Hindenburg, Papen's primary source of political power, there was no one else with the power to threaten Hitler.
Is that like for gay confederates? I always sorta wondered about those Dukes boys...
Rebel Pride is what I'm gonna call it.
Mauser KAR98K
07-04-15, 21:34
Facts don't matter anymore.
If I had a dollar for every time somebody said "Maybe that's what it used to mean..." in a discussion, I'd be a very rich man. Words, and to a greater extent symbols, no longer have meaning because they are what an uniformed majority of the population decides they are.
"Thug" is no longer a word coined by the black community to show adherence and / or support of it's criminal elements. Now it is a word used by racists as a "code slur", except of course for those times when it is used by the black community to show adherence and / or support of it's criminal elements.
The rebel flag has now been equated to a hate symbol on par with the Nazi swastika, however communist symbols are still acceptable expression of rejection of American Imperialism (whatever the hell that actually is, I can't think of a single American colony in our empire). Never mind that millions died under the hammer and sickle, it's still just a symbol of rebellion and nothing more. But the CSA flag is about slavery and nothing more.
I think I'm going to just start flying this to confuse idiots.
http://www.classicalvalues.com/RebelRainbow.JPG
Monrovia.
Monrovia.
A country, Liberia, that was largely settled by American's, is no more an American colony than we are still a British colony. Liberia is an independent Republic with their own government, which functions independently of the United States.
I'm not aware of any taxes or tributes paid by Liberia to the United States.
Now it "was" a colony up until 1847, and we recognized it's independence in 1862, but that was some time ago. About as old as the flag on the bikini we were talking about.
Might as well ban "Daisy Dukes" while they're at it...after all they came from the now forbidden show Dukes of Hazard with the Confederate Flag painted on the General Lee.. Geeze! Dare I ask what's next!?!
I have daughters, I have banned them. My daughters are lucky I don't make them wear Ropers, Levis, and Tee-shirts to school everyday. Fvcking boys.
Another pic for reference so we all know the hatred were up against......
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/04/5f1676065ace8a8a89d116b3b46df5f3.jpg
Good Lord, somebody get a doctor, that girls has a bottom jig stuck in her belly-button and a cancerous mole on her cheek!
Uh, no.
Hitler wasn't a big fan of Marx.
Stalin was shocked because he thought he had a few more years.
One would have to be a "big fan" of Marx to be, well, a Marxist, not a socialist leftist.
National socialism (the Nazis) and international socialism, (the Communists) were simply rival competing leftist ideologies, with one being more left than the other.
The reasons the Nazis are erroneously labeled "right wing" are because it is in fact the left that is doing the labeling, trying to distance themselves from their discredited ideological kin, and because while the Nazis were not right wing, it can certainly be argued that they were ideologically to the "right" of marxism.
I have daughters, I have banned them. My daughters are lucky I don't make them wear Ropers, Levis, and Tee-shirts to school everyday. Fvcking boys.
Man I hear you loud and clear there, I have a daughter myself, I dread the teenage days!
Moose-Knuckle
07-05-15, 03:38
So do all those folks that have a Stars & Bars tattoo go on a DOJ domestic terror watch list?
Oh and thanks Steyr for the inspiration for a new avatar.
Business_Casual
07-05-15, 07:04
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One would have to be a "big fan" of Marx to be, well, a Marxist, not a socialist leftist.
National socialism (the Nazis) and international socialism, (the Communists) were simply rival competing leftist ideologies, with one being more left than the other.
The reasons the Nazis are erroneously labeled "right wing" are because it is in fact the left that is doing the labeling, trying to distance themselves from their discredited ideological kin, and because while the Nazis were not right wing, it can certainly be argued that they were ideologically to the "right" of marxism.
This is accurate - the other analyses of left and right were colored by media propaganda. My BA is in modern European history...
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This is accurate - the other analyses of left and right were colored by media propaganda. My BA is in modern European history...
Thanks for the correction guys.....I always think of the Nazi's as being right of the communists. Fair point that they are indeed not right wing.
It makes you wonder how far we are away from a Left wing revolution? Kalifornia is already there as a State, most of the large urban areas are there also. (NY - Boston - Chicago - SF - LA - Seattle)
Business_Casual
07-05-15, 08:31
Thanks for the correction guys.....I always think of the Nazi's as being right of the communists. Fair point that they are indeed not right wing.
It makes you wonder how far we are away from a Left wing revolution? Kalifornia is already there as a State, most of the large urban areas are there also. (NY - Boston - Chicago - SF - LA - Seattle)
The left's strategy is clear - they are following a debt load collapse stratagem, bringing the entire system down. The problem is they won't necessarily control what comes after the collapse. A dictatorship, no doubt, but will we get Lenin or Ceasar?
Oh dude, you're killin' me! :lol:
Moose-Knuckle
07-05-15, 08:48
The left's strategy is clear - they are following a debt load collapse stratagem, bringing the entire system down. The problem is they won't necessarily control what comes after the collapse. A dictatorship, no doubt, but will we get Lenin or Ceasar?
After Balkanization, those of us lucky enough to live through that will have the privilege of being serfs under "The Council of Governors".
Uh, no.
Hitler wasn't a big fan of Marx.
Stalin was shocked because he thought he had a few more years.
It isn't as simple as leftcvsxright. There's also the north and south on the compass to include authoritarian and libertarian. All Europe has is socialists so its easier to put them in a left-right paradigm.
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Thanks for the correction guys.....I always think of the Nazi's as being right of the communists.
Again, one can certainly very legitimately consider the Nazis as being "to the right" of the Communists, just like one can consider the presidency of Bill Clinton to the right of Obama's presidency, but both are still without question diehard leftists.
It makes you wonder how far we are away from a Left wing revolution? Kalifornia is already there as a State, most of the large urban areas are there also. (NY - Boston - Chicago - SF - LA - Seattle)
Posted before, but worth the read.
No Truce With the Left
http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.at/2015/06/no-truce-with-left.html
"The left will destroy the things you care about, because you care about them. It will destroy them because that gives them power over you. It will destroy them because these things stand in the way of its power. It will destroy them because a good deal of its militant activists need things to destroy and if they can't attack you, they'll turn on the left in a frenzy of ideologically incestuous purges."
Again, one can certainly very legitimately consider the Nazis as being "to the right" of the Communists, just like one can consider the presidency of Bill Clinton to the right of Obama's presidency, but both are still without question diehard leftists.
Posted before, but worth the read.
Let it go....I thanked you for the correction, now you're just being pedantic.
Let it go....I thanked you for the correction, now you're just being pedantic.
Perhaps you're right. Still, better than being petulant.
Can't we atleast all agree that this sh*t is stupid?
You knew the current owner of the original General Lee is painting over the rebel flag on the roof and replacing it with a US flag didn't you?
This is all so bizarre to me, it's amazing how easy it is to declare something a "symbol of hate" and have it enforced and supported. From time to time I wear a shirt with a Buddhist swastika. It's yellow on black with chinese characters under it so it doesn't immediately invoke the nazi symbol. I've had some looks, even a few questions from elderly people most of whom I presume to be jewish and who are content with the explanation, but as it stands right now, I think wearing a rebel flag patch is being declared the equivalent of wearing a NSDAP armband.
I'm not especially sympathetic to the redneck south, generally they drive me crazy with their stupid ass oversize pickup tricks, shitty music and willingness to rev anything with an engine in their driveway for up to 4 hours. But in places where those stupid trucks with their rebel flag plates and paint schemes are predominant, I've never seen anyone hassle anyone for being black and I've seen more than a few instances of people coming to the defense of black people attending the "chili cookoff" or whatever is going on when it looked like somebody was being hassled.
And I've only been to South Carolina a few times, to me I think I could best describe most of the people I met as "the most polite people I've ever encountered" and that is regardless of race. Somehow I must have missed all of the idiots when I was there.
Thanks Steyr for the kind words. I too believe that we are a polite and gentile people for the most part.
I’d also like to give a hand to our black South Carolinians for their restraint in not inciting any type of violence in the wake of the shooting of Walter Scott and the Emanuel 9 and the forethought to tell Al Sharpton to stay home. It’s quite possible that if these incidents had happened in any of the larger urban areas in the south such as Atlanta, Jacksonville or Birmingham, the reaction to these crimes could have been much different.
What really disappoints me though is the political pandering of our governor Nikki Haley by calling for the removal of the battle flag from the state house grounds because a deranged young man decided to take the lives of nine innocent black people and a photograph surfaced showing him having the flag patch on his jacket. How ridiculous. There are multitudes more people that wear that symbol that don’t commit crimes of any type than there are that do.
Her actions started a wave of political correctness from politicians and corporations in regard to the battle flag.
Shame on you Nikki for pandering to a group of people in order to garner their vote. You are doing nothing but helping to perpetuate political correctness across this country and one of the causes of the divisive environment that we are experiencing today.
I am so damn sick of all the continuously offended people in this country.
I think you read a bit more into my sentence than intended.
I didn't intend to suggest anything was a "sole contributor" to the creation of the NSDAP. As with many political movements it had many origins and often formed in ways unintended by the creators (just ask Trotsky how he felt about Stalinism).
That was a difference in ideology. World revolution vs Socialism in one state. Trotskites or Revisionist Marxists are the true Marxists in my eyes.
1. The NSDAP was created out of the Freikorp movemnent as they served as the founding members of the German Workers Party which then became the National Socialists German Workers Party.
Created out of that environment, and many of its members joined the NSDAP and the SA, yes. The NSDAP is not, however, a continuation of the Freikorp.
2. Key members of the founding group, such as Joseph Goebbels and Ernst Rohm were true socialists and supported a socialist revolution based upon anti capitalist ideas. One can be anti-Capitalist and Anti-Socialist. "The Third Way". Also remember that Goebbels almost left the party after Hitler remarked that socialism was a "Jewish system of exploitation".
3. In the struggle for power in the Wiemar Republic and Reichstag, the German Communist Party was the only other political party that posed a genuine threat to the NSDAP. This contest for power is the primary reason the NSDAP had an anti communist agenda. The fact that the two groups had several political similarities was irrelevant as each was seeking political power.Nope. The Social Democrats were.
One would have to be a "big fan" of Marx to be, well, a Marxist, not a socialist leftist.
National socialism (the Nazis) and international socialism, (the Communists) were simply rival competing leftist ideologies, with one being more left than the other.
The reasons the Nazis are erroneously labeled "right wing" are because it is in fact the left that is doing the labeling, trying to distance themselves from their discredited ideological kin, and because while the Nazis were not right wing, it can certainly be argued that they were ideologically to the "right" of marxism.
"Socialist leftist"? lol
T
This is accurate - the other analyses of left and right were colored by media propaganda. My BA is in modern European history...
Where did you get your degree from? Surely you know that anyone who doesn't support the Monarchy, church, and aristocracy is a "leftist", like our Founding Fathers.
But things change....
The left's strategy is clear - they are following a debt load collapse stratagem, bringing the entire system down. The problem is they won't necessarily control what comes after the collapse. A dictatorship, no doubt, but will we get Lenin or Ceasar?
And you don't even understand basic Marxism.
It isn't as simple as leftcvsxright. There's also the north and south on the compass to include authoritarian and libertarian.
http://i47.tinypic.com/fm6ff7.gif
While I support these more modern political paradigms starting with Eysenck, there is no set standard like the old traditional left-right.
My only issue here is that the derpinternetandfacebookeducated-libertarians ignore reality and since they identify with the right, anything and everything they don't like is left wing or "leftist".
All Europe has is socialists so its easier to put them in a left-right paradigm.
Well that's enough GD for me today.
Business_Casual
07-05-15, 12:01
I think you are just trying to stir things up. Just posting "you're wrong, na na na" isn't very helpful.
My only issue here is that the derpinternetandfacebookeducated-libertarians ignore reality and since they identify with the right, anything and everything they don't like is left wing or "leftist".
Such the wordsmith.
Most of the Libertarians I know pretty much agree with Rand Paul, who can be at times far from "right-wing."
But I understand it is easy for the left to confuse conservative with right-wing.
I think you are just trying to stir things up.
That's now pretty obvious.
Just posting "you're wrong, na na na" isn't very helpful.
But it is revealing.
Can't we atleast all agree that this sh*t is stupid?
Absolutely!
For the record, quit thinking of the political spectrum as being linear, as in a left-to-right line. Think of it as being a circle, with true moderates being at 12 o'clock. Dems are to the left of that (maybe 9 or 10) and Republicans to the right of that (maybe 2 or 3 o'clock). When you get to the extremes of "far right" like Nazi's and "far left" like communists they actually sit right next to each other.....anywhere from 5 to 7 o'clock respectively. They are both totalitarian in nature and economic policies are controlled by the state in both.
What about Stone Mountain?
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&hl=en&site=webhp&tbm=isch&source=hp&ei=O3-ZVY-7F8KfgwS50Zj4BA&q=stone+mountain&oq=stone&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.1.3.19j0l4.3509.7178.0.9350.6.6.0.2.2.0.272.945.0j5j1.6.0....0...1c.1.64.mobile-gws-hp..1.5.668.0.TXaCIqjw9Ag#imgrc=OomUhrHXkXuPoM%3A
Wow, you're right. I was there 2 years ago and there were all kinds on Rebel flags in front of shops in surrounding towns.
So are these cakes not ok now either? Just ISIS ones right?
34021
:jester:
My gf said she'll be rocking a rebel flag bikini when she goes to Jekyll island GA end of the month. I tried my hardest to convince her it'd be racist..... She told me to stfu and she'd send me pics. I didn't argue further.
Actually if you guys want some fun I'm sure this gal (different one) would love some enlightenment. The definition of radical lunatic feminist. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/05/5664b664a1d975a1b1471da8f46443fc.jpg
brickboy240
07-06-15, 12:31
Funny thing about that flag.
At our 4th of July Parade out in Round Top, TX, there was a replica of the General Lee Charger in the parade.
People were cheering it on and racing out into the street to take photos with the car as it passed by. It was a huge hit.
There were tons of other really nice classic cars in the parade but nothing got the responses like the General Lee did!
..had to laugh at that...
As a personal observation, I've only ever known two out and out racists that you might loosely categorize as white supremacists. One was really stupid and could only ever hope to achieve anything in life by following someone else to it. He had to work side by side with black guys and made it work. He was generally nice to everyone unless they made fun of him, which was a fairly regular occurrence. I always felt sorry for him.
The other one was fairly intelligent, but lacked any sort of drive. He was what I'd call "cunning" and I never trusted him, ever. He wound up having a FTF meeting with the Secret Service and it either drove him underground or put the kibosh on his little revolution.
I've known several hard core liberals that you could categorize on the left, the way you could categorize the aforementioned on the right. To a person, they were some of the most hateful people I've ever experienced in my life. It will never be enough for them to see their causes succeed. I'd go so far as to say their defining trait is a desire to see anyone who has a different world view defeated. Simply put, they're nasty pieces of work.
I'm a fiscal conservative, but fairly libertarian on most accounts and even have a few socially liberal views. I could never stand with them on their causes, even if I agree with them, simply because they would never stand with anyone else for theirs.
Eurodriver
07-07-15, 07:20
SC Senate has voted to remove the flag. Now it goes to the house.
SC Senate has voted to remove the flag. Now it goes to the house.
And rightfully so, heathens!!
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/07/4712b6c3bd3809a924443847ae7eed8c.jpg
As a personal observation, I've only ever known two out and out racists that you might loosely categorize as white supremacists. One was really stupid and could only ever hope to achieve anything in life by following someone else to it. He had to work side by side with black guys and made it work. He was generally nice to everyone unless they made fun of him, which was a fairly regular occurrence. I always felt sorry for him.
The other one was fairly intelligent, but lacked any sort of drive. He was what I'd call "cunning" and I never trusted him, ever. He wound up having a FTF meeting with the Secret Service and it either drove him underground or put the kibosh on his little revolution.
I've known several hard core liberals that you could categorize on the left, the way you could categorize the aforementioned on the right. To a person, they were some of the most hateful people I've ever experienced in my life. It will never be enough for them to see their causes succeed. I'd go so far as to say their defining trait is a desire to see anyone who has a different world view defeated. Simply put, they're nasty pieces of work.
I'm a fiscal conservative, but fairly libertarian on most accounts and even have a few socially liberal views. I could never stand with them on their causes, even if I agree with them, simply because they would never stand with anyone else for theirs.
I think you provided a fairly accurate delineation of the left/right dumbass. I once met some "Nazis" in the late 1980s - dude was clueless to history and very ignorant. He was bragging about his stint in prison - robbery from a Frozen Yogurt store... B.A.D.A.S.S.
I'll mirror your comment - both right and left extremes - display many traits of learned behavior or outright forms of neuroses/psychosis. Most have very deep emotional issues and combined with a persona of victimhood, leads to a deep hatred of those they deem in opposition.
As with your experience with "hateful" folks, it has also been my experience that those extremist on the left, seem to be very bitter and would go to any extreme to achieve their goal. Niccolò Machiavelli if you will.
Oh yeah - snark, snark. If we wait just a lil' bit longer CIA sponsored ISIS will take care of it for the progressives.
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/38cal/IMG_0172_zpsat76wnpx.jpg
Ha, that's pretty good. I lol'd.
Oh yeah - snark, snark. If we wait just a lil' bit longer CIA sponsored ISIS will take care of it for the progressives.
http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac186/38cal/IMG_0172_zpsat76wnpx.jpg
I'm sure if given the opportunity, ISIS would turn them into dust.
Eurodriver
07-07-15, 18:27
I'm sure if given the opportunity, ISIS would turn them into dust.
Given the opportunity?
Check out their philosophy
It's farther than what your eyes can see.
We all think it's about theology,
But it's all about the money, G.
Given the opportunity?
Check out their philosophy
It's farther than what your eyes can see.
We all think it's about theology,
But it's all about the money, G.
I only know how wahabbi feels about pagan religious artifacts and what ISIS has done with similar historical artifacts.
Still remember the Taliban destroying the three Buddhas.
http://southronthunder.blog.com/files/2010/05/flag-bikini-1.jpg
I agree with this. I think that woman should remove that confederate flag bikini immediately!
You guys see the new Dukes of Hazard?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHO1PprfmkY
You guys see the new Dukes of Hazard?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHO1PprfmkY
Ha, ha, ha. Thank you, that was hilarious! So much "gold" in that skit. Scary how accurate a representation it is of where we are at this time.
You know if people cared this much about shit that actually ****ing mattered we would have colonized Mars by now.
All this!!!!!
wildcard600
07-08-15, 07:49
Oh yeah - snark, snark. If we wait just a lil' bit longer CIA sponsored ISIS will take care of it for the progressives.
The evidence points to the pyramids not being built using slave labor.
but i get the point trying to be made.
Moose-Knuckle
07-08-15, 15:35
You guys see the new Dukes of Hazard?
Gawd that is scary how accurate that was . . .
Walmart, Amazon, Sears, eBay to stop selling Confederate flag merchandise
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/22/politics/confederate-flag-walmart-south-carolina/
You guys see the new Dukes of Hazard?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHO1PprfmkY
LOL! LOL! :lol:
Love me some Blue Collar Comedy! Good find!
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