View Full Version : New Ruger Precision Rifle .308/6.5 Creedmoor/.243
Looks interesting. Says it can take Magpul 308, AICS, and some M14 magazines. Uses AR-15 free float handguards and has an AR style safety.
.308 is 20"
6.5 Creedmoor is 24"
.243 is 26"
http://www.ruger.com/micros/rpr/models.html
http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/7/17/ruger-precision-rifle/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAimarSpHJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15YkjtV_ud0
There's always something different, dang it! It looks great, good to see a company being innovative, hope to see more like this. Guess I'll add this to the list.
The rifle is pretty genius on a lot of levels.
It looks like if you have an AR15 armorer's wrench, vise blocks, and headspace gauges, you will be able to swap barrels with just a few minutes' work. Hopefully Ruger sells enough of these to spawn a number of choices for prefit aftermarket barrels.
The way the handguard mounts is also pretty cool. The barrel threads into the receiver until your bolt reacts properly to the go/nogo gauges. Then, you tighten down the barrel nut to keep the barrel in place. THEN, you thread a "handguard nut" over the actual barrel nut, and the handguard nut is what you mount your handguard onto. As far as I can tell, the handguard nut is for all intents and purposes a standard AR15 barrel nut. Hopefully you'll be able to swap the handguard nut for one of proprietary barrel nuts that ship with BCM KMRs, Geissele rails, etc.
I should stop buying guns for the year, but I'm very seriously eyeing one of these rifles in 6.5 Creedmoor.
lightestfighter
07-17-15, 23:45
I noticed the "lower receiver" is two pieces, left half and right half, that screw together.
Looks interesting. Says it can take Magpul 308, AICS, and some M14 magazines. Uses AR-15 free float handguards and has an AR style safety.
.308 is 20"
6.5 Creedmoor is 24"
.243 is 26"
http://www.ruger.com/micros/rpr/models.html
http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/7/17/ruger-precision-rifle/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAimarSpHJY
Wow, blast from the past. I know that shooting range very well, probably been there over two dozen times and dropped a lot of cash there. One of the best indoor ranges/stores in the country in my opinion, far better than anything Las Vegas has, that's for sure.
I've actually been wondering when someone would create essentially a bolt action AR308, but I'm surprised it was Ruger.
Country DeVil
07-18-15, 00:22
Anyone know the price?
Anyone know the price?
MSRP is $1399 but turners.com is currently selling them for $999.98.
You will see a few bolt guns for sale now, folks wanting the latest. This is well thought out, I see other caliber offerings in the future. This is what happens when a company is responsive to the market. As I understand the Ruger engineer is a shooter, glad they listen to him.
Dist. Expert 26
07-18-15, 09:08
If this shoots anywhere near as well as they say it does I'm definitely going to be in the market for one in 6.5. Not really in the budget, but oh well...
Not really in the budget, but oh well...
The movie "The Way of the Gun" should have been about this exact statement... LOL.
I'm in the same boat but went ahead and ordered one in 6.5 Creedmoor anyway. This, to me, is like getting a high-end chassis system with the action/trigger/barrel thrown in for free. But better.
Dist. Expert 26
07-18-15, 10:45
The movie "The Way of the Gun" should have been about this exact statement... LOL.
I'm in the same boat but went ahead and ordered one in 6.5 Creedmoor anyway. This, to me, is like getting a high-end chassis system with the action/trigger/barrel thrown in for free. But better.
Where did you order it from?
Where did you order it from?
I ordered from turners.com, but it looks like they're now OOS.
Here's a review and video Frank did for SH.
I am going to have to grab a 6.5 perhaps.
http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/story/1564384-ruger-precision-rifle-65-cm
Another good write-up with details on the barrel nut, etc.
http://www.realguns.com/articles/726.htm
"It feeds flawlessly and here is the kicker, from just about any mag out there. You can use an SR25 mag, AICS, M1A, M14, they all work and feed without any modification to the mag well. "
That is cool.
Ohhhhhh buddy, I like that. Wow, 1000 bucks? Hmmmm, maybe.
BAH! This is tempting. I wonder how much weight could be dropped from the rifle by exchanging some components.
EzGoingKev
07-19-15, 16:14
I know that Ruger has not enjoyed the greatest reputation in recent years, especially with their newer semi-auto pistols. Supposedly they have made some changes and turned this around.
What is the reputation on their bolt guns been like?
I know that Ruger has not enjoyed the greatest reputation in recent years, especially with their newer semi-auto pistols. Supposedly they have made some changes and turned this around.
What is the reputation on their bolt guns been like?
Pretty good. The M77 series is solid, and their American series is doing well.
Another good write-up with details on the barrel nut, etc.
http://www.realguns.com/articles/726.htm
I thought that was a good article. It is tempting to add it to the stable.
If this had a wrong-handed variant I would not hesitate to order! Curse this evil trait!
If this had a wrong-handed variant I would not hesitate to order! Curse this evil trait!
And in 260 Regular w/ a 26" tube, .825-.875" @ the threaded Muzzle.
Very nice. I think I'm going to have to order one in a few months. I might have to try the 6.5 and see how it shoots.
Another good write-up with details on the barrel nut, etc.
http://www.realguns.com/articles/726.htm
That's a nice overview. I'll probably be picking one of these up later this fall.
Here's a nice cutaway showing the barrel/action/bolt interface. It definitely looks like pretty much any AR15 barrel nut will work.
http://personal.visualitymedia.com/personal/boltguns/rpr_cutaway.png
Here's a nice cutaway showing the barrel/action/bolt interface. It definitely looks like pretty much any AR15 barrel nut will work.
http://personal.visualitymedia.com/personal/boltguns/rpr_cutaway.png
Nice find, I guess I had better make room in the safe for one of these.
Digital_Damage
07-20-15, 17:48
awww man, this looks great! But I just built up a 700... damnit...
I'm getting one of these in 6.5C. Any leads on one in stock?
And in 260 Regular w/ a 26" tube, .825-.875" @ the threaded Muzzle.
I also want 260. I will be putting mine together before years end I hope. Still will be interested in seeing this as a lefty gun.
260 would be great. 6.5x47 lapua would be better ;)
One of these in 260 would likely do bad things to my bank account.
Everything that makes the Savage so compelling (barrel nut) in a chassis. I'm hoping the action is smooth.
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joedirt199
07-21-15, 07:08
Figure more barrel options will come up as popularity for this platform grows. Very nice features for the price tag. Will deffinately be watching its progress.
If I wasn't already halfway into my 700 build I'd be grabbing one of these immediately. It looks like a superb value.
fallenromeo
07-21-15, 13:04
This thread answered my questions. I was curious if it taking AR15 rails was a typo as opposed to AR10. But it appears it is actually an AR15 rail, which is good because there are so many more options.
260 would be great. 6.5x47 lapua would be better ;)
Have you seen Zak Smith's article about the different 6mms? I was interested in 6.5x47 as well but the article made me lean back to 260rem. I am all ears about other points of view on the subject though.
Have you seen Zak Smith's article about the different 6mms? I was interested in 6.5x47 as well but the article made me lean back to 260rem. I am all ears about other points of view on the subject though.
I have not seen the article, but the main takeaways I've found in my research between 6.5cm, .260, and 6.5x47 Lapua are that:
6.5x47 Lapua uses small rifle primers, has great brass available, good but relatively rare factory ammo, but less case capacity than the other two.
6.5cm has good factory ammo at better availability than 6.5x47 Lapua, has pretty good brass available.
.260 has the most common ammo but not match grade off-the-shelf, brass can be relatively easily made from .308/7.62x51.
Overall, it's more about convenience than actual down range performance, from what I've read. I personally chose 6.5 Creedmoor because there are actually LGSs in the area that sell Hornady match ammo at $25-$30 a box of 20, which is frankly an unbelievable price. I always shoot sub-MOA with the factory ammo, usually hovering around 0.85 ES. There are little cartons full of factory new 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady brass at more than one store if I ever need more, so forming my own brass isn't a concern.
None of the advantages that 6.5x47 Lapua and .260 Rem have outweigh the availability of cheap match grade factory ammo, to me at least.
hotrodder636
07-22-15, 02:11
I am very interested to see how the bolt and trigger reviews come out. Looks like a pretty good package here.
This just popped up on my radar today and from what I've been reading it will likely be my new .308 deer gun. Pretty ingenious on a number of levels. For years I've been wanting someone to build a bolt gun that would accept AR rail systems so nice to see it's finally happened.
I figure it will give me an excuse to buy a geissle mk8 rail then chop the barrel down to 16".
Coal Dragger
07-22-15, 13:48
This may be my next rifle in either 6.5 or .243 to start with.
If it shoots as well as claimed this may put a serious hurt on a lot of over priced botique tactical rifle manufacturers/gun smiths.
Will be interesting to see how barrel changes are accomplished.
I just bought one in 6.5 at a LGS. I paid a little more than what some have got them for ($1050 plus tax), but a hell of a lot less than what they are going for on GB. I really just feel lucky to have found one in stock. Unfortunately it is in "4473 delay jail" until fedguv grants my privilege to bear arms. :mad:
I did get to finger**** it a bunch, and it is a really fantastic design. It has everything I want in a precision rifle. Chassis style, free floated, stock in line with barrel, forward rail, fully adjustable folding stock, excellent trigger (think red accutrigger), medium profile barrel, built-in provision for QD sling swivels, low bolt rotation angle, easy to reach thumb safety, barrels easy to swap at home, threaded muzzle, takes cheap and readily available mags, and it's light enough to take hunting.
I am actually pretty excited about it. I've never gone out and bought a rifle the week it's released before. I honestly find this to be the most exciting new gun to be released since I've been shooting.
This just popped up on my radar today and from what I've been reading it will likely be my new .308 deer gun.
Agreed, looks like an amazing and innovative build. I want one. Though, at 9.6 pounds unscoped and unloaded, even the lightest model (the .308) is probably going to run somewhere around 12 pounds when you're lugging it for hunting. For me, this would be too heavy for a hunting rifle but it'd sure be a great range toy.
If it shoots as well as claimed this may put a serious hurt on a lot of over priced botique tactical rifle manufacturers/gun smiths.
Good point, and I thought the same thing. If you're going to get a large, heavy, precision Rem700 rifle built custom, you're talking typically $3000 to $5000 at most builders I've seen. Heck, I spent nearly $1900 total to take a factory R700, and semi-customize it with a Manners stock, Timney trigger, Badger bottom metal, etc. And the list price on this rifle is roughly $500 less than that! Street prices will certainly be lower still. If what you want is a big heavy precision rifle that's less "gunsmith dependent" and a lower initial cost, this seems like a really interesting offering.
If this had a wrong-handed variant I would not hesitate to order! Curse this evil trait!
Indeed. Fellow lefty, eagerly awaiting wrong-handed goodness. I'm equally frustrated that they won't offer the new Gunsite Scout with the composite stock in a LH version (I already emailed them, they said they're not doing it).
I guess with a rifle this heavy though and running it off a bipod at the range (which is the only way I'd use it), RH would be perfectly ok and you could probably run it faster after you adapt. I can't see shooting this rifle offhand anyway.
Dist. Expert 26
07-23-15, 06:01
I saw on SH that Ruger has no plans to introduce a left handed model at this time. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
I saw on SH that Ruger has no plans to introduce a left handed model at this time. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
good.
I have not seen the article, but the main takeaways I've found in my research between 6.5cm, .260, and 6.5x47 Lapua are that:
6.5x47 Lapua uses small rifle primers, has great brass available, good but relatively rare factory ammo, but less case capacity than the other two.
6.5cm has good factory ammo at better availability than 6.5x47 Lapua, has pretty good brass available.
.260 has the most common ammo but not match grade off-the-shelf, brass can be relatively easily made from .308/7.62x51.
Overall, it's more about convenience than actual down range performance, from what I've read. I personally chose 6.5 Creedmoor because there are actually LGSs in the area that sell Hornady match ammo at $25-$30 a box of 20, which is frankly an unbelievable price. I always shoot sub-MOA with the factory ammo, usually hovering around 0.85 ES. There are little cartons full of factory new 6.5 Creedmoor Hornady brass at more than one store if I ever need more, so forming my own brass isn't a concern.
None of the advantages that 6.5x47 Lapua and .260 Rem have outweigh the availability of cheap match grade factory ammo, to me at least.
Many of the same thoughts I have had on the three rounds.
The prospect of buying commercial ammo is moot for me though because I am too cheap to buy in large quantities and dont want to deal with lot variances from my small batch purchaces. I would rather press a bunch, plus reloading is fun.
This has made me review some info on the subject and I might actually go for the 6.5x47 instead of the x51. They both have a lot going for them. You reminded me about the small primers which is cool.
I saw on SH that Ruger has no plans to introduce a left handed model at this time. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
This is a bummer man.
Agreed, looks like an amazing and innovative build. I want one. Though, at 9.6 pounds unscoped and unloaded, even the lightest model (the .308) is probably going to run somewhere around 12 pounds when you're lugging it for hunting. For me, this would be too heavy for a hunting rifle but it'd sure be a great range toy.
Good point. I usually just go out with my 30/30 and track but there are plenty of days where I'd rather find a decent ridge off an established trail and just prone out for an afternoon. As such, for my atleast, the weight is less of a factor. Ymmv.
Toxicodendron
07-24-15, 19:33
I have one, in .308, on order. $949 plus tax.
Dist. Expert 26
07-24-15, 21:39
There are some preliminary range reports starting to come in and it looks like the rifles are performing just as advertised.
And as a result my desire to own one has only become stronger. Damn.
EzGoingKev
07-24-15, 21:55
I have one on order in 6.5.
I went to my local range today and they had one in .243 up on the wall for sale. The salesgirl (who was hot as hell) asked me all kinds of questions about it - she said it was getting A LOT of attention.
It is heavy. I was in a busy shop so I did not shoulder it. The action seemed to be good - not tight but not loose. I do not know what the trigger was set at but it was fairly light and had a nice break to it. While overall it seemed to be well built but I did find an "issue".
The safety in it fit EXTREMELY loose and rattled around like crazy. Loose like someone grabbed the wrong drill bit loose. I hope this is an isolated thing.
Got lucky enough to grab one in .243 today at my local LGS...only one on the shelf :^)
.243 was my last choice since I don't reload at the moment, but I've got some Copper Creek .243 105gr Berger VLD on the way so we'll see if she's gonna be a shooter or not. Sorry, worry be able to get range reports up til about 9 days from now... kinda stinks but it'll teach me some much needed patience! :D
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m119/HD1911/Mobile%20Uploads/D131203D-9514-4F90-A3DB-FF097D8BE203_zps25l3idd7.jpg
Wow... I think I'm in love... nicely done Ruger.
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Jealous! Dang, I need to try one as well, 6.5CM for me. Would like some hands on to see the loose safety reports, seems to be more than one. EZGoingKev, maybe you can go back there and attempt some more hands on?-:lol:
Well my 6.5 shoots... this is my first group with the Hornady 140 grain A-max. 100 yards, prone with a bipod.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/henschman/guns/210E3571-1809-4E48-9871-6C4CD0FD54F2_zpsdmxtqtzj.jpg
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Oh my goodness! I just put a deposit on a 6.5C at the local gun shop. They are selling them for $999.89 and are about 2 to 3 months out. I cant wait.
2 to 3 months!? Holy sh!+ am I sick and tired of waiting months for gun stuff. I'm about 4.5 months on a vortex razor, ~ 3 months on an Omega (nothing to be done about form 4's but still sucks), I waited about 3 for my manners stock but luckily I got it. Now I'll probably have to wait for one of these too? (And not pay full price that is, just don't have it to pay)
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Oh my goodness! I just put a deposit on a 6.5C at the local gun shop. They are selling them for $999.89 and are about 2 to 3 months out. I cant wait.
MSRP's are around 1,299, but bet they will sell for a bit cheaper.
Well my 6.5 shoots... this is my first group with the Hornady 140 grain A-max. 100 yards, prone with a bipod.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk201/henschman/guns/210E3571-1809-4E48-9871-6C4CD0FD54F2_zpsdmxtqtzj.jpg
Wow, that's a 0.478 MOA group. Good shooting!
http://i.imgur.com/GneGTWY.png
BAH! This is tempting. I wonder how much weight could be dropped from the rifle by exchanging some components.
I got to handle one at my LGS a few days ago and thought it weighed 15 pounds. I think it was just under 10. It was very front heavy. I wanted to like it but didn't.
Just noticed members looking for one in stock. My LGS Parro's had at least one.
EzGoingKev
07-27-15, 22:35
What would be a good optic to pair up with one of these in 6.5?
I'm probably getting this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B2_RFmfcws
elephantrider
07-29-15, 23:31
I'm probably getting this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B2_RFmfcws
Exactly what I was going to say. Probably impossible to beat that scope at that price point. Excellent reticle, excellent tracking turrets, and great glass. The everything you need, nothing you don't feature set.
If you shop around they can be had for about $1,100.
joedirt199
07-30-15, 07:14
Keep an eye on natchezss.com as they had demo sales on these that were well under a grand.
This ruger rifle reminds me of the remington 700 tactical chassis that remington came out with a few years ago. It looks like the ruger is the better choice due to cheaper price, hand guard versatility and better design on folding stock. I can't wait to find a ruger in stock.
How's the ruger stock? Is it solid? It looks kinda cheap but I won't judge until I shoot it.
Damn, I cant think of a reason not to pick this up in 6.5CM. The HDMR would be a perfect scope, and the package would be unbeatable for the money.
SeriousStudent
07-30-15, 19:56
Damn, I cant think of a reason not to pick this up in 6.5CM. The HDMR would be a perfect scope, and the package would be unbeatable for the money.
Great minds think alike. I already have a Bushnell Tactical 3.5-21, and was thinking about the same rifle and caliber.
Great minds think alike. I already have a Bushnell Tactical 3.5-21, and was thinking about the same rifle and caliber.
I have an HDMR on my 18" OBR, and I think I will take it off, reinstall my CQBSS on the OBR, and put the HDMR on this Precision Rifle. I shot my OBR easily out to 750 with the CQBSS, so Ill just use the big glass to really try long range shooting on the 6.5CM.
I'm waiting to get one of these too. Finally, finally, finally, a manufactured gives me what I want a modular bolt action system that doesn't cost $2500, require smithing, and is user customizable with readily available parts.
I can already picture mine with an moe + grip, prs, kmr, and painted fde.
Wait until somebody starts building different barrels for it.
Doc. Holiday
07-31-15, 11:04
I've actually been wondering when someone would create essentially a bolt action AR308, but I'm surprised it was Ruger.
POF has had their bolt action AR out for awhile now.
POF has had their bolt action AR out for awhile now.
Kind of... The POF ReVolt is essentially a straight-pull AR that uses all AR components, but replaces the gas system with a modified charging handle that allows the shooter to chamber a round manually after every trigger pull. You could shut off the gas system on a LWRCi REPR and use the side charging handle in the same way as on the ReVolt.
Doc. Holiday
07-31-15, 14:05
I understand that. You can shut the gas off on a normal POF and us it like a bolt gun as well. Koshinn just mentioned who would create a bolt action AR308 and the Revolt is not a gas gun, but is an AR platform that was designed strictly for manual manipulation.
LMT has had a "bolt action" MWS, called the LM308SP, for a while too, but not drilling a gas port and omitting a carrier key isn't quite what I meant by bolt action.
natchomamma
08-06-15, 12:40
I do not own a long range riffle and would like to get one in 308. Can someone PM where to pre-order one at a great price.
Thanks
I got to handle one at my LGS a few days ago and thought it weighed 15 pounds. I think it was just under 10. It was very front heavy. I wanted to like it but didn't.
Just noticed members looking for one in stock. My LGS Parro's had at least one.
He apparently had quite a few of them. You guys cleaned him out. =)
I played with one at a local place. It was a 6.5 Creedmoor. Liked it.
FromMyColdDeadHand
08-12-15, 23:35
I wonder if they'll sell them with out the stock and forend? It might not save that much and the current ones look interesting.
I guess some people might cross shop custom or AI rifles with this one, but my thought is that it might bring more people into shooting PSR matches.
Why can't Remington do this based on the 700 action? Barreled action is what, $450? You can't come up with a chassis using an AR buttstock and forend for $600?
The rifle isn't for gear heads to finger fiddle and accessorize. Bipod and scope and go shooting.
The PRS blog website had analysis of the contributing factors to hits using a Monte Carlo simulation. Gun caliber and wind reading were primarily driving hit ratios. The difference between using a .2 and a .5 MOA gun wasn't a major driver, and I think the difference would decrease more with a new shooter behind the rifle.
That multi mag thing is pretty sweet. I haven't seen the details on that yet.
alvincullumyork
08-20-15, 21:06
Will it take already on the shelf aftermarket triggers?
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Will it take already on the shelf aftermarket triggers?
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Not from what I understand but the one that comes with isn't bad at all.
Maybe A LITTLE BIT of creep out of the box (I've fired 5 rounds thru mine and dry fired it prob 5x more) but with a little more wear-in, it may improve. It's a fine trigger though and should not impede your ability to get good hits. To me it's a non issue.
Having said that I got a trigger from Triggertech for my rem 700 (if i remember correctly for $89.00) that blows the best factory trigger I've ever encountered out of the water.
I doubt triggertech has any plans on one for the ruger precision rifle, but perhaps we should write em and encourage them to do so?
Have you seen Zak Smith's article about the different 6mms? I was interested in 6.5x47 as well but the article made me lean back to 260rem. I am all ears about other points of view on the subject though.
This is so much cheaper than any 260Rem builds I was contemplating that I'll just pony up for every flavor of 6.5CM match ammunition until I find one it likes.
This also makes an LMT MWS-MLOK more attractive, as I could get a 6.5CM barrel for that (principal advantage being that Creedmoor plays nicer in SA guns).
I just need to look into practical non-target loads before I totally commit; and sort out if it would really be worth putting a MI SS-MLOK 15" Rail on there, mostly for aesthetic reasons.
For me, being able to try buttloads of factory match loadings, then start to replicate and optimize would be attractive enough - the limitations in brass availbility I think still applies to a limited degree, but I'd be looking into cleaning/trimming/reloading from a pile of spent factory stuff for the first couple rounds of that until I've settled on a bullet/powder/primer combination that is working for me.
Tehl,
I have several friends who reload for both the 6.5 x 284 and the 6.5 CM and they think the CM is a very easy ctg to reload for. The Hornady manual is neither conservative or optomistic, and their G1 BC's are fairly realistic. I always use G7 or G7 (Litz) if it is available. The only downside to the 6.5 and other small bores with alot of slow burning powder is barrel life but a $400 barrel divided over 2,500 shots is only 16 cents a pop. Cheap fun if you ask me. the 123's cross over with the 140's at about 700 yards for velocity, but have definate advantage in windage according to my buddies. they compete against 6mm Tubb's so are trying to beat the wind as much as possible. Way better shots than me who is glad to ring steel at 1,000 yards with my .308 and a fast 175. they are using as little as 28 MOA elevation at 1,000 while I am 34-36 depending on ammo.
Unquestionably, this is cheap fun compared to what I had been budgeting for slightly better performance - starting with a R700 action and bolting on basically everything aftermarket makes this look cheap - I figured that between the 123/139 Scenars, 140AMax, and Berger VLD's I should be set up perfectly out to a range where my shooting ability is garbage anyway... and trying to talk Proof or Christansen out of making a carbon wrapped SS barrel would be well within my budget by the time I've actually burnt out a barrel.
At this point, I'm trying to see if I can get a complete BASR kit lined up (Can, Rifle, Bipod, Scope Mount) starting with my NXS 3.5-15x for now to be reasonably precise, and all of that fits in what I had budgeted for just the rifle (with the intent of reaching an optimistic 1200yd in good wind at ~6000ft altitude).
REBARREL INFO
http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/forums/5519-gunsmithing/14002765-anyone-planning-on-doing-a-ruger-rpr-barrel
FromMyColdDeadHand
08-26-15, 18:31
To me the beauty of this rifle is that it is complete out the door. Nothing on it is great, but nothing is bad. As soon as you start swapping out stuff it gets expensive.
Get it, shoot it, and leave the GAS pains behind.
TacticalSledgehammer
08-26-15, 22:55
I've said for a long time that an ARish (this is the closest I've yet seen) bolt rifle would be a hit. People love customizing things to suit their needs. I'd love to see it offered in .300 win mag later on.
alvincullumyork
09-09-15, 14:23
Just curios if anyone knows how easy it is to remove the stock at the hinge point?
I may ride a little fast and someday it may catch up and bite me in the ass but maybe not if I give it just a little more gas.
The more I think about this setup, the more I like the idea of running a clip on NVD in front of a scope on the ruger. I'm still waiting for one at a reasonable price if I can find it in stock. It should run perfect with a PVS-27
I'm strongly considering getting one. The two-piece lower receiver has got me slightly skeptical though. The left and right halves are held together with screws. I don't baby my rifles. Thoughts on this?
I'm strongly considering getting one. The two-piece lower receiver has got me slightly skeptical though. The left and right halves are held together with screws. I don't baby my rifles. Thoughts on this?
You're back! When did you come back to m4c?
One of the guys local here in Vegas has one and loves it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2ytDpbhs4s
also painting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCePdHgi7BE
You're back! When did you come back to m4c?
'bout 45 minutes ago when I was Googling the Ruger and found this thread. :D I'm about two seconds away from ordering one in 6.5CM if I can't find a downside. No obvious ones yet (if the lower halves really are sturdy enough).
'bout 45 minutes ago when I was Googling the Ruger and found this thread. :D I'm about two seconds away from ordering one in 6.5CM if I can't find a downside. No obvious ones yet (if the lower halves really are sturdy enough).
Welcome back! I hope you stay!
I found one locally in .243, but I'm not too interested. I'd rather have one in .308 since I don't really want two sources of 6.5cm brass - the lee collet die has me spoiled and I don't want to keep track of which gun the brass came out of.
I haven't seen any negative reviews of the Ruger yet, and I've been watching it on various websites for a while.
I saw earlier in the thread that you had looked into the 6.5's a bit. I haven't to be honest -- been pretty out of the loop. It looks like somehow the 6.5CM factory offerings are a tiny bit cheaper than 175gr FGMM. I wouldn't have guessed that to be the case but I like it. Think there's any reason that might change? I'm too busy to reload these days so the fact that there are cheap match-grade 6.5CM cartridges from Hornady is a big selling point. Any idea if that's a temporary price point or if it's going to be stable?
Failure2Stop
09-17-15, 21:18
Dude in a match I shot was using one. Lots to like. I'm sort of thinking about violating my ".300 WM and up only" rule for bolt guns with the 6.5 Creed version...
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I saw earlier in the thread that you had looked into the 6.5's a bit. I haven't to be honest -- been pretty out of the loop. It looks like somehow the 6.5CM factory offerings are a tiny bit cheaper than 175gr FGMM. I wouldn't have guessed that to be the case but I like it. Think there's any reason that might change? I'm too busy to reload these days so the fact that there are cheap match-grade 6.5CM cartridges from Hornady is a big selling point. Any idea if that's a temporary price point or if it's going to be stable?
I honestly don't know why 6.5 is cheaper than .308 FGMM, but it generally is and shoots better. I don't know if it'll stay like that or not - if anything, they should be the same price or even 6.5 should be just a bit more expensive because less volume of sales. But as long as I've been looking at the prices, 6.5 has always been cheaper.
I'm sort of thinking about violating my ".300 WM and up only" rule for bolt guns with the 6.5 Creed version...
6.5cm is a great round in a bolt action!
Dude in a match I shot was using one. Lots to like. I'm sort of thinking about violating my ".300 WM and up only" rule for bolt guns with the 6.5 Creed version...
Get it in .243 Win? Just so it's a zippy little laser; burning out the stock barrel probably wouldn't be a tragedy either.
To me 6.5 anything is just the recoil wuss/poor man's 300WM, at least out to 1200m. Which is exactly why I want one.
I too have been scouring the internet for the 'don't get the RPR if...' type reviews and they're just not there. Lots of folks insisting that a Savage is just as good in .308 performance wise, or plenty pointing out that an AIX in .260Rem or 6.5x47L is nicer.
Stupidly, I'm holding out to see how cost-effectively I could put a 15" MLOK rail on it, just because it would look marginally prettier... and save up enough to pick up an SAS or TBAC Ti can.
wilson1911
09-17-15, 22:30
Jack I'm sure you have looked at the ballistics for the 6.5cm > 300wm. It's quite the gun to shoot. A local guy here bought the one our shop had.
Mine is a custom, but this rifle is hands down a good purchase. There were not any offerings last year when I had mine being put together. This fits in the "best bang" for the buck category. Just put a Vortex on it and go.
It kicks just a little more than an AR. Which translates into less shooter fatigue at the end of a range session. Box ammo is great out of one. I will have to find the guy and see how many rounds he has out of his atm. I should run into him at the range in a week or so.The barrel is a bit skinny for my taste. So that means shorter strings of fire. This is only draw back I have seen so far. I shoot 10 rounds, then let cool, while he was shooting 5. All he could say was my trigger was better. I kind of got depressed seeing it get the accuracy it did for less than half what I have in mine. It was a good break-in day. He was a happy shooter.
For you guys on the fence. Don't miss out on this gun in 6.5cm. I specifically bought a 6.5 gun for shooting box ammo and not reloading. Laser beam accurate 1000 yard gun. Even shooting 500 yards is a joke.
SeriousStudent
09-17-15, 23:14
'bout 45 minutes ago when I was Googling the Ruger and found this thread. :D I'm about two seconds away from ordering one in 6.5CM if I can't find a downside. No obvious ones yet (if the lower halves really are sturdy enough).
Indeed, welcome back. If you pick up the 6.5, please let me know your thoughts. I am pondering one as well.
Failure2Stop
09-17-15, 23:37
Jack I'm sure you have looked at the ballistics for the 6.5cm > 300wm. It's quite the gun to shoot. A local guy here bought the one our shop had.
Mine is a custom, but this rifle is hands down a good purchase. There were not any offerings last year when I had mine being put together. This fits in the "best bang" for the buck category. Just put a Vortex on it and go.
It kicks just a little more than an AR. Which translates into less shooter fatigue at the end of a range session. Box ammo is great out of one. I will have to find the guy and see how many rounds he has out of his atm. I should run into him at the range in a week or so.The barrel is a bit skinny for my taste. So that means shorter strings of fire. This is only draw back I have seen so far. I shoot 10 rounds, then let cool, while he was shooting 5. All he could say was my trigger was better. I kind of got depressed seeing it get the accuracy it did for less than half what I have in mine. It was a good break-in day. He was a happy shooter.
For you guys on the fence. Don't miss out on this gun in 6.5cm. I specifically bought a 6.5 gun for shooting box ammo and not reloading. Laser beam accurate 1000 yard gun. Even shooting 500 yards is a joke.
This is how divorces happen.
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So, I slogged through a 50+ page thread devoted to this rifle over at Sniper's Hide. Unfortunately I'm going to hold off on the gun, at least for now. While there are many happy users, there are an unfortunate number of complaints cropping up on a few issues -- namely, bad crowns leading to poor accuracy, handguards that won't stay straight, the plastic bolt shroud breaking, and finally good initially accuracy followed by rapid fouling (repeatable after cleaning). Some people are also complaining about the safety feeling sloppy, but I personally don't care about that as long as it works. A few of the people pointing out problems seem particularly savvy, so it's hard to pass it off as people who can't shoot blaming the rifle. One guy who is in close contact with Ruger engineers reports that they are literally "losing sleep" over the issues.
This is good and bad. It's bad because it confirms that buying a rifle will be hit or miss at this point in time, and good because it means the current issues are likely to be solved in the future. The formula they have is a winner -- properly executed, it seems unbeatable for the price. I'm sure people who are getting rifles made on fresh tooling are extremely happy. I just don't want to play the hit or miss game right now. Obviously I have no first hand experience and am just summarizing a thread on another forum, so what I'm saying isn't infallible. And even if it were, you can of course buy one of these guns, and if it happens to not shoot well, I'm sure Ruger will check it out and replace your barrel if necessary (or you can get it re-crowned if that's the problem). If that process seems acceptable to you, don't let this discourage you.
So, I slogged through a 50+ page thread devoted to this rifle over at Sniper's Hide. Unfortunately I'm going to hold off on the gun, at least for now. While there are many happy users, there are an unfortunate number of complaints cropping up on a few issues -- namely, bad crowns leading to poor accuracy, handguards that won't stay straight, the plastic bolt shroud breaking, and finally good initially accuracy followed by rapid fouling (repeatable after cleaning). Some people are also complaining about the safety feeling sloppy, but I personally don't care about that as long as it works. A few of the people pointing out problems seem particularly savvy, so it's hard to pass it off as people who can't shoot blaming the rifle. One guy who is in close contact with Ruger engineers reports that they are literally "losing sleep" over the issues.
This is good and bad. It's bad because it confirms that buying a rifle will be hit or miss at this point in time, and good because it means the current issues are likely to be solved in the future. The formula they have is a winner -- properly executed, it seems unbeatable for the price. I'm sure people who are getting rifles made on fresh tooling are extremely happy. I just don't want to play the hit or miss game right now. Obviously I have no first hand experience and am just summarizing a thread on another forum, so what I'm saying isn't infallible. And even if it were, you can of course buy one of these guns, and if it happens to not shoot well, I'm sure Ruger will check it out and replace your barrel if necessary (or you can get it re-crowned if that's the problem). If that process seems acceptable to you, don't let this discourage you.
Seems like a normal amount of problems for a first gen firearm. Thanks for the research!
I held one in .308 the other day. Would love to have on in 6.5 cm eventually, but I've learned the hard way not to be an early adopter. It makes you wonder why Remington hasn't done something like this at this price point.
So, I slogged through a 50+ page thread devoted to this rifle over at Sniper's Hide. Unfortunately I'm going to hold off on the gun, at least for now. While there are many happy users, there are an unfortunate number of complaints cropping up on a few issues -- namely, bad crowns leading to poor accuracy, handguards that won't stay straight, the plastic bolt shroud breaking, and finally good initially accuracy followed by rapid fouling (repeatable after cleaning). Some people are also complaining about the safety feeling sloppy, but I personally don't care about that as long as it works. A few of the people pointing out problems seem particularly savvy, so it's hard to pass it off as people who can't shoot blaming the rifle. One guy who is in close contact with Ruger engineers reports that they are literally "losing sleep" over the issues.
This is good and bad. It's bad because it confirms that buying a rifle will be hit or miss at this point in time, and good because it means the current issues are likely to be solved in the future. The formula they have is a winner -- properly executed, it seems unbeatable for the price. I'm sure people who are getting rifles made on fresh tooling are extremely happy. I just don't want to play the hit or miss game right now. Obviously I have no first hand experience and am just summarizing a thread on another forum, so what I'm saying isn't infallible. And even if it were, you can of course buy one of these guns, and if it happens to not shoot well, I'm sure Ruger will check it out and replace your barrel if necessary (or you can get it re-crowned if that's the problem). If that process seems acceptable to you, don't let this discourage you.
Thanks for the info. Like others here, I also would like one in 6.5CM, but I have a strict policy of not purchasing a new gun within the first year or so. Hopefully the issues will be ironed out by then.
wilson1911
09-18-15, 16:25
If you want a 6.5 CM, you can always just buy a used rem bolt gun and re-barrel. The price point of this gun on par with that. It's the 6.5CM round that is worth the most.
SOne guy who is in close contact with Ruger engineers reports that they are literally "losing sleep" over the issues.
This is good and bad. It's bad because it confirms that buying a rifle will be hit or miss at this point in time, and good because it means the current issues are likely to be solved in the future. The formula they have is a winner -- properly executed, it seems unbeatable for the price. I'm sure people who are getting rifles made on fresh tooling are extremely happy. I just don't want to play the hit or miss game right now.
Without a comparable bolt gun, I think it still makes sense for me to hop into the hit/miss game, as even if I get a total miss I wouldn't be adverse to throwing a custom barrel and handguard at it, and if need be machining my own aluminum bolt shroud... but that's the angle where I'm coming at it from - to me it's a $4000 weapon system after optics/mount/bipod/sling/Ti-Can so I wouldn't really blink at having to spent that kind of money to sort it out, but for somebody having to save to put together this as a $2000 system and having either of those problems, it's a deal-breaker.
The tooling age thing really sounds likely, as it probably was engineered around lower likelihood of tolerance stacking that what the production demands have been - but that should be as simple as spending a bit more per rifle on QA/Metrology after figuring out which are the really key dimensions and they'll have a real winner.
I also really want this to succeed because a scaled up long action version of this would also be awesome, but for that to really work they'd need to sort out these kinds of issues mentioned - the peaches among these sound really impressive, and if they were all that good nobody would care if the street price floated up $50/rifle, which is probably what it would take to get pickier about tooling and a few key dimensional variance points.
LRI making drop in barrels...
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