View Full Version : going rate for Colt M16A4 upper?
i am looking at buying a new Colt M16A4 complete upper and wanted to know what the going rate is for this upper in new condition. the one i am looking at is priced at $975 and i thought that sounded a little high but i have not been paying attention to what these sell for lately.
if that is the going rate i might just suck it up and pay it but i though it should be closer to $750-$800. just want to know what others think about the price or find out what you paid for yours. thanks.
Rogueplayer
07-22-08, 18:41
The issue is the supply and they are scarce.
I just built an A4 upper for my Colt HBAR and during my research, when I found one, they were typically around 1k.
I found an FN barrel and purchased a Colt upper with rifles extensions and had $450 invested including the shipping of both.
I have seen them on the web for around 700 to 800 .900 seems high to me ,I would do some more looking
the original plan was to build one up with Colt parts. i figure i could do that for about $700 maybe a little more complete with bolt carrier group and charging handle but would prefer a factory built A4 upper if close in price.
I have seen them on the web for around 700 to 800 .900 seems high to me ,I would do some more looking
that's what i thought they should sell for. sounds like they may have gone up some since last time i looked. i might just have to wait for a better deal to pop up. if it had the M5 RAS instead of the standard hand guards on it i would probably do it.
geezerbutler
07-22-08, 21:03
I recently ran across a NIB 6920 upper with complete BCG and Charging handle for $860, which I consider to be a "Deal".
I've seen them NIB w/o the BCG for that price too.
I see now that your're talking about a rifle upper (M16A4) as opposed to a carbine upper (M4A1) I don't have much experience shopping for those lately :-)
BTW, where have you found the best selection? I would think one of the online auctions sites would turn up a few of them.
GEEZER
platypusREX
07-23-08, 00:10
that's what i thought they should sell for. sounds like they may have gone up some since last time i looked. i might just have to wait for a better deal to pop up. if it had the M5 RAS instead of the standard hand guards on it i would probably do it.
When it hits 900 it is mine.
There are only about 40 of these uppers in civilian hands.
well i could not stop thinking about this upper (actually kept me up all last night) and decided to pull the trigger. i ended up paying $925 shipped. more than i wanted to spend but it is the nicest one i have come across. i did get a NIB Knights M5 RAS to go with it for $110 so that will put me right at $1035 for the complete upper with the M5 RAS and carry handle. since i will install the M5 RAS it will leave me the stock hand guards to either sell or use on another project.
I recently ran across a NIB 6920 upper with complete BCG and Charging handle for $860, which I consider to be a "Deal".
I've seen them NIB w/o the BCG for that price too.
I see now that your're talking about a rifle upper (M16A4) as opposed to a carbine upper (M4A1) I don't have much experience shopping for those lately :-)
BTW, where have you found the best selection? I would think one of the online auctions sites would turn up a few of them.
GEEZER
online auction sites do have them from time to time but i have the best luck on the forums (ar15.com mostly) and private sales.
well i could not stop thinking about this upper (actually kept me up all last night) and decided to pull the trigger. i ended up paying $925 shipped. more than i wanted to spend but it is the nicest one i have come across.
That seems like a reasonable price for such a hard to come by upper. Now let's have some pics. :cool:
are these used upper? I thought Colt was only selling complete rifles?
are these used upper? I thought Colt was only selling complete rifles?
no this was a brand new upper off of a USGI Colt M16A4. i purchased it from a class three dealer. most likely came off of a non transferable dealer sample. might also have been shipped as an upper only from Colt as replacement parts, i am not sure but i hope to get this info from the seller if he knows.
i don't have a way of posting pictures (no camera) but if someone wants to cut and past pictures of the upper from the add on ar15.com that is cool with me. i would do it myself but i don't know how, i for the most part only know how to use the computer to spend lots of money on line buying things and doing research.
when i get it in hand i will see if a friend can take some pictures for me.
platypusREX
07-24-08, 18:24
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If it is factory assembled, new, and complete $975 is a good price.
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thanks!
If it is factory assembled, new, and complete $975 is a good price.
yes, it is a factory built Colt upper. ended up paying $925 shipped.
yes, it is a factory built Colt upper. ended up paying $925 shipped.
Ya done good.
platypusREX
07-24-08, 18:39
yes, it is a factory built Colt upper. ended up paying $925 shipped.
Maybe I should of added the extra 25 bucks.
Maybe I should of added the extra 25 bucks.
i am glad you didnt!:D
If it is factory assembled, new, and complete $975 is a good price.
how can one tell if a Colt upper is factory assembled?
platypusREX
07-24-08, 23:00
how can one tell if a Colt upper is factory assembled?
Proof Marks.
http://i33.tinypic.com/296deds.jpg
platypusREX
07-24-08, 23:47
i am glad you didnt!:D
I probably shouldn't of popped my mouth off and I would have been the owner.
Proof Marks.
http://i33.tinypic.com/296deds.jpg
what kind of proof mark is that?
My 6920 does not have that. Does that mean that it was assembled by someone other than Colt?
what kind of proof mark is that?
My 6920 does not have that. Does that mean that it was assembled by someone other than Colt?
my understanding is that these proof marks show that Colt produced this upper for the military. your 6920 is for law enforcement and civilian sales and wont have these marks.
my USGI M16A2 upper also has proof marks like those shown in the picture.
my understanding is that these proof marks show that Colt produced this upper for the military. your 6920 is for law enforcement and civilian sales and wont have these marks.
my USGI M16A2 upper also has proof marks like those shown in the picture.
my Match Target rifle has proof marks.
his 6920 should have them as well.
in some rifles/carbines could be hard to see but they are there.
my Match Target rifle has proof marks.
his 6920 should have them as well.
in some rifles/carbines could be hard to see but they are there.
not the standard proof marks all Colts have (such as the C or keyhole) but the ones circled in red on the picture above. i cant read the one in the picture above but they are located in the same place as the ones on my USGI M16A2 upper. the marks on my A2 upper are a C inside a square and what looks like an A or P in a triangle.
these proof marks are stamped into the receiver opposed to the raised proof marks that are made during the forging process.
not the standard proof marks all Colts have (such as the C or keyhole) but the ones circled in red on the picture above. i cant read the one in the picture above but they are located in the same place as the ones on my USGI M16A2 upper. the marks on my A2 upper are a C inside a square and what looks like an A or P in a triangle.
these proof marks are stamped into the receiver opposed to the raised proof marks that are made during the forging process.
I dont have pics with me at the moment but mine also have the triangle mark near the ejection port.
and so do other 2 Match Target Colts of a friend of mine.
platypusREX
07-25-08, 02:52
I dont have pics with me at the moment but mine also have the triangle mark near the ejection port.
and so do other 2 Match Target Colts of a friend of mine.
Exactly. I call it the little freaky triangle stamping.
It means it is tried and true.
Exactly. I call it the little freaky triangle stamping.
It means it is tried and true.
that's strange, maybe i am misinformed about the stamped marks but not one of my other Colts (6724, 6601, 6920, 6520) have these marks and all these rifles were bought brand new from authorized Colt dealers. the only uppers i have with these marks are the A4 upper i just purchased and the A2 USGI upper i own. i even have a striped 6520 upper A2 receiver and it also has no stamped proof marks by the ejection port.
i will call Colt and see if they can explain why some have it and some don't.
Proof marks denote a factory assembled gun prior to 2002.
They disappeared after this.
If it doesn't have proof marks, it can still be factory assembled.
Also, proof marks aren't a guarantee that an upper is factory assembled. It simply means that the receiver was part of a factory assembled upper at one time. If it's a concern, always buy from reputable sources.
wow thanks for the info!
Since Colt doesn't sell parts, so any Colt upper that was assembled by someone other than Colt must be done from used, stripped parts from different Colt rifles?
platypusREX
07-26-08, 00:23
wow thanks for the info!
Since Colt doesn't sell parts, so any Colt upper that was assembled by someone other than Colt must be done from used, stripped parts from different Colt rifles?
No no no. Not at all. You can have a SAW built weapon and there are a few specialist that can obtain rare parts.
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