View Full Version : New CZ P-07 and P-09 pics and impressions and surprises
My CZ P-07 and P-09 arrived Saturday and will act as replacements for a Glock 19 and Glock 22. This was a decision that literally took years to decide. I don't change pistols often and Glock has been my mainstay for over a decade. The P-07 was exactly what I was looking for in a G19 replacement in terms of size/weight/capacity.
Then P-07 is the Gen 2 model and was manufactured February 2014; the P-09 is the Suppresor Ready version made March 2015. Surprisingly both came with lanyard loops on the mainspring plug, which I thought was retired with the P-07 Duty.
The P-07 came with two magazine extending floor plates which was a nice, unexpected addition.
Both pistols came nicely packaged with quality cases and padding. The amount of information and literature booklets they come with was hefty and the test targets were impressive with lots of info even down to the ammo type used.
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The P-09 has two 19 round magazine and P-07 has 15 rounders. The P-07 will take mags from P-09 but stick out the bottom obviously. I picked up two additional magazines at the time of purchase at approximately $42 each, which is NOT cheap by Glock standards.
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The thread protector is interesting looking. Not sure if the design serves a purpose, but it's appealing to the eye.
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There are 3 back straps with nice stippling patterns. The small is on the P-07 while I have the medium on the P-09. The grip is exquisite and locks up into my grip perfectly. The grip is part of the reason I like Glocks, but the CZ grips are more ergonomic. Most pistols just don't give that positive lockup in my hand. M&P's for example just drift around no matter what backstrap is installed.
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The P-07 is a unapologetic full size pistol and makes no attempt to ride the line like, say, the VP9. It's a big gun, but light with a touch of nose heaviness.
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Controls are well placed and mostly flush. The melonite finish is deep and flawless. It's much better than the old phosphate finish CZ used on the 07 Duty model. I have decockers installed, but the Omega trigger can be swapped to a cocked and locked safety. All the parts come in the box for the switch.
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The sights are good and low profile, and the hammer design is easy to use. They are luminescent sights like the HK VP9. They pick up ambient light quickly and hold a charge for about 30 minutes. There is no sharp angle present on the rear site to aide in one-handed manipulation drills.
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In terms of the superficial these are good looking pistols that resemble something like a SIG 320 mixed with a VP9 and CZ SP-01. Machining is clean with no noticiable tool marks. The finish is flawless and the polymer feels rigid and robust. The trigger is mostly straight and easy to reach. There is some take-up in both double and single action. The single action is a real joy with nice shortish, tactile reset, and light pull weight.
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More impressions soon and range report soon.
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The Dumb Gun Collector
07-26-15, 22:01
Nice pick ups! CZs are guns that I ignored for decades for no reason I can determine. I picked up one recently and I have been thoroughly impressed. The only flaw with CZ is they have too many products and need to focus on a narrower line (these guns might be the place to start). My Sp-01 is a phenomenal, fast shooter.
Keep us updated.
Quick thoughts after tinkering with the CZ P-09 around the house.
I switched out the decocker for the safety. It took about 5 minutes with the help of Youtube Mrgunsngear Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUpzl2lpaYs
The safety lever is clicky, tactile and has enough surface area to engage easily, while still being fairly low profile. It also cleans up the single action trigger pull just a little so that it breaks a little lighter and cleaner.
More importantly, the safety cannot be engaged hammer down. It has to be cocked and locked. Meaning you can keep the simple point and click hammer down, double action first shot and still benefit from the nicer single action trigger pull.
joedirt199
07-27-15, 08:18
Bought the older p07 in .40 cal for the wife as a ccw and would have access to plenty of my duty ammo but is was a little thick for her frame to iwb carry. She traded out my glock 23 for purse carry instead. I went with the p07 so she could carry hammer down and have double strike capabilities as she is a new shooter and not as trained for malfunction drills. I have since purchased the p07 9mm used upper half that cz sels separate and she is liking it more in the 9mm configuration. I liked the p07 so much I purchased the p09 in 9mm for me as a gaming gun. Mags are expensive but can be found at gregcote.com for resonable price. CZ sometimes offers sales in quantity of 3 mags for $100 if you get there in time. Both pistols have the CGW upgrades and are great shooters. Very happy with cz and most owners say they multiply.
KalashniKEV
07-27-15, 09:24
Very nice.
I looked hard at the P-07 v2.0 with a manual safety, but the gun I really want is the P-02/ "Compact Model L."
I'm going to keep waiting and see if they will ever do another round of those...
Gary1911A1
07-27-15, 09:35
David at Cajun Gun Works makes competition parts for both the 07 and 09. One fellow on another forum posted pictures of his 07 barrel with rust on it and claimed CZ left their barrels in bare steel, but I've had no rusting on mine.
Good luck with yours.. I'd caution you to keep an eye on which one you use as a CCW.. The one I had the chamber would start rusting, pitting, if I carried it for more that a couple days. After I removed the rust in my chambers, I found that it was now pitted. CZUSA told me over the phone that the chambers on the P09,07 series are left in the white..(the barrel's interior forward of the chamber appear to be melonited) I would've kept mine if it wasn't for this issue. CZUSA was also unresponsive when called about it.. They're suggestion was to keep the barrel oiled. I had pics up over at www.pistol-forum.com on Pg 2 in the "autoloaders' forum under the title "CZ P-07 rusting issues" also in my ad in the EE if anyone doesn't believe me. All I could suggest is to keep a close eye on it if you carry it when it's warm, humid.. other than this issue, The P-07 is a excellent pistol...
David at Cajun Gun Works makes competition parts for both the 07 and 09. One fellow on another forum posted pictures of his 07 barrel with rust on it and claimed CZ left their barrels in bare steel, but I've had no rusting on mine.
That would be ralph. :)
ralph:
If you still have the 07, I'll buy it from you for $200 :)
Seriously, if it was my gun, I'd send the slide and barrel to Wilson Combat for some of their great Armor Tuff finish for the win. I have the 07 Duty, love it.
ralph:
If you still have the 07, I'll buy it from you for $200 :)
Seriously, if it was my gun, I'd send the slide and barrel to Wilson Combat for some of their great Armor Tuff finish for the win. I have the 07 Duty, love it.
Pistol was sold with full disclosure... I was up front with the rust/pit issue in the chamber, as I put pics of it in my ad in the EE, I was honest about it. I made the buyer a pretty good package deal. As far as having someone else refinish the barrel, The better question is, why doesn't CZ fully melonite the barrels in the first place, instead of leaving the chambers in the white? In this day and age, with all the wonderful highly rust resistant coatings available, there's really no reason to leave a chamber in the white..
Threads like this make me wonder why H&Ks aren't more popular.
I went out and handled the P09 and it was sharp, blocky, and thick.
A P2000 is a better alternative to a G19.
agreed........or the VP9 compact when it comes out.
Psalms144.1
07-27-15, 15:10
Threads like this make me wonder why H&Ks aren't more popular.
A P2000 is a better alternative to a G19.I love the P2000, but it's not popular because the trigger sucks. You either get a crappy DA/SA with a long, heavy, gritty DA a "meh" reset and a "meh" SA - OR you get the LEM, which, frankly, most people aren't willing to dedicate enough time to in order to make it work. In order to improve either trigger appreciably, you have to drop big bucks at Gray Guns or the Sig Armorer to have them worked - and then you're carrying a "modified" action...
I don't own a CZ, and probably never will, but, from all reports, the DA/SA is at least workable, if not better, out of the box.
Now, if/when HK produces a P2000 sized VP9C, I'll have one - and it will likely take my G19's place in my primary carry holster.
Good luck with yours.. I'd caution you to keep an eye on which one you use as a CCW.. The one I had the chamber would start rusting, pitting, if I carried it for more that a couple days. After I removed the rust in my chambers, I found that it was now pitted. CZUSA told me over the phone that the chambers on the P09,07 series are left in the white..(the barrel's interior forward of the chamber appear to be melonited) I would've kept mine if it wasn't for this issue. CZUSA was also unresponsive when called about it.. They're suggestion was to keep the barrel oiled. I had pics up over at www.pistol-forum.com on Pg 2 in the "autoloaders' forum under the title "CZ P-07 rusting issues" also in my ad in the EE if anyone doesn't believe me. All I could suggest is to keep a close eye on it if you carry it when it's warm, humid.. other than this issue, The P-07 is a excellent pistol...
Ralph thanks for your feedback.
As it turns out, prior to purchasing, I came across your your posts/threads on rust located here:
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?16543-CZ-P-07-rusting-issue
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?171631-CZ-P-07-9mm-pistol-has-been-SOLD&p=2152094&highlight=#post2152094
I look for patterns and consensus when it comes to weapon feedback and researching purchases, and I think you might be the only person to ever report encountering rust with the P07, so I chalked up to an anomaly that will be rare to replicate. Doubly so since I basically live in the desert midwest. Thanks for the feedback though. I'll keep an eye on the chamber and feed ramps.
double tap. Please delete.
friendlyfireisnt
07-27-15, 15:52
I love the P2000, but it's not popular because the trigger sucks. You either get a crappy DA/SA with a long, heavy, gritty DA a "meh" reset and a "meh" SA - OR you get the LEM, which, frankly, most people aren't willing to dedicate enough time to in order to make it work. In order to improve either trigger appreciably, you have to drop big bucks at Gray Guns or the Sig Armorer to have them worked - and then you're carrying a "modified" action...
I don't own a CZ, and probably never will, but, from all reports, the DA/SA is at least workable, if not better, out of the box.
Now, if/when HK produces a P2000 sized VP9C, I'll have one - and it will likely take my G19's place in my primary carry holster.
The other issue is cost. No matter what, HK's command a premium, even more so for a pistol with a crappy trigger, and poor customer support.
The CZ P-07 comes with a good trigger that gets better quickly, and is fantastically accurate and reliable.
Mine was one of the Duty versions that was a contract overrun, with Tritium sights, an extended barrel and came sans decocker. Most accurate pistol I have, and is my primary CCW pistol. I have often thought of ditching my M&P9's that serve as my HD pistols in favor of a P-09, but the Crimson trace laser grip interface is something that I can't ignore for the M&P's.
Magazines aren't cheap, but deals can be had through CZ that bring the cost down.
Ralph thanks for your feedback.
As it turns out, prior to purchasing, I came across your your posts/threads on rust located here:
https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?16543-CZ-P-07-rusting-issue
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?171631-CZ-P-07-9mm-pistol-has-been-SOLD&p=2152094&highlight=#post2152094
I look for patterns and consensus when it comes to weapon feedback and researching purchases, and I think you might be the only person to ever report encountering rust with the P07, so I chalked up to an anomaly that will be rare to replicate. Doubly so since I basically live in the desert midwest. Thanks for the feedback though. I'll keep an eye on the chamber and feed ramps.
As much as I hate to admit it, I think I'm the Bermuda Triangle for handguns.. strange things happen.. I've had so-so luck with Glocks for example, Having at present a Gen 4 G17 police trade in, that runs like a swiss watch, and my recently acquired Grey Gen 4 G19 which appears is going to get a Apex extractor, and it that doesn't work a trip back to Smyrna.. This is the second G19 I've had.. The first was a Gen 3 G19 that while the Apex extractor stopped BTF, (this after two glock factory extractor replacements, and a Lone wolf extractor all of which failed) it caused other problems.. I sent it down the road.. The only pistols I can honestly say I've had NO issues with are Beretta's and HK's... They've always worked for me, right out of the box..Hmmm, maybe the Good Lord is trying to tell me something...
It's strange how that happens! My last Glock (the straw that broke the camel's back) was a new G17 gen 4 that blasted my face with brass like a porn star getting facials in a gang bang. I sold it a month later and have never looked back. In the meantime I own and have purchased an M&P 40C, M&P 9 VTAC, HK VP9, Walther PPQ M2 5" and FNX 45 Tactical and all have run flawlessly. It's unfair because Glocks all around are solid pistols, I just can't go back.
It's strange how that happens! My last Glock (the straw that broke the camel's back) was a new G17 gen 4 that blasted my face with brass like a porn star getting facials in a gang bang. I sold it a month later and have never looked back. In the meantime I own and have purchased an M&P 40C, M&P 9 VTAC, HK VP9, Walther PPQ M2 5" and FNX 45 Tactical and all have run flawlessly. It's unfair because Glocks all around are solid pistols, I just can't go back.
I have to admit, the G19's size is just about perfect.. There's no getting around that. I'm going to give this one a fair shake. I'm hoping the Apex extractor cures it. I've already replaced the mag springs with Wolfe +10% springs, and that DID help a lot. I'm still getting BTF at about 1-2 per mag, with over 700rnds ran through it, I'd say it's "broke in". If the Apex extractor works, the only other thing I'm going to do is replace the sights, and after that, leave it the hell alone..
The other issue is cost. No matter what, HK's command a premium, even more so for a pistol with a crappy trigger, and poor customer support.
The CZ P-07 comes with a good trigger that gets better quickly, and is fantastically accurate and reliable.
Mine was one of the Duty versions that was a contract overrun, with Tritium sights, an extended barrel and came sans decocker. Most accurate pistol I have, and is my primary CCW pistol. I have often thought of ditching my M&P9's that serve as my HD pistols in favor of a P-09, but the Crimson trace laser grip interface is something that I can't ignore for the M&P's.
Magazines aren't cheap, but deals can be had through CZ that bring the cost down.
The price of P2000s have come down a LOT this year. As far as the DA/SA trigger? I've used 'em all, with quite a bit of time on an M9 and a P226 & 228, and the H&K DA/SA in no worse than any of 'em. A little heavier because they use a stout mainspring, but I've not had any problems running the three I have. The DA is smooth and stacks just a little, the SA is a little mushy with a limp reset.
I say it has a P225 DA and an XD SA.
The price of P2000s have come down a LOT this year. As far as the DA/SA trigger? I've used 'em all, with quite a bit of time on an M9 and a P226 & 228, and the H&K DA/SA in no worse than any of 'em. A little heavier because they use a stout mainspring, but I've not had any problems running the three I have. The DA is smooth and stacks just a little, the SA is a little mushy with a limp reset.
I say it has a P225 DA and an XD SA.
Not a fan of typical HK staple gun trigger pull or the ergos except for the VP9 and HK45. I've owned several HK's through the years, and the grotesque double action pull and long single action reset leave me cold.
HK's aren't for me on a whole. The only pistols that have really left a positive impression on me in terms of ergos, and "joy of shooting" through the years is 9mm Glocks, 1911's and CZ's.
SpecWired - your timing was terrible in posting this.
I was just about ready to snag a P-07 but my fuel pump just died.
Thanks for the informative post :cool:
I got the P07 out today. I wanted to give it a spin first since it will be my CCW.
As a control, I brought along an HK VP9.
I fed the P07 a mix and match of random loose ammo; JHP and plinking stuff. No issues to report in terms of reliability.
Accuracy was similar VP9 in my hands.
Where the CZ P07 stood out was ergonomics and recoil. The lauded CZ recoil mitigating design is alive and well on the polymer P07. The low bore axis and grip angle make for a phenomenal smooth shooter. The VP9 had much more tangible recoil and felt snappier.
In terms of CCW, the P07 didn't feel any different than my old G19.
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TimeOnTarget
07-30-15, 08:24
I have two P-09s with all the Cajun Gun Works upgrades. They are the softest shooting pistols I have ever fired. They feel almost like a pellet gun. Simply a joy to shoot.
If you want a DA/SA gun, the CZ is a nice blend of old and new school technology.
Psalms144.1
07-30-15, 12:15
SpecWired - congrats on your CZ's - they look great. Couple of questions:
1. You take great photos, can you take some size comparison pics with your G19, for reference?
2. Not judging or picking, just curious - what does the P07 do that the G19 doesn't, or what does it do significantly better?
Thanks!
SpecWired - congrats on your CZ's - they look great. Couple of questions:
2. Not judging or picking, just curious - what does the P07 do that the G19 doesn't, or what does it do significantly better?
Thanks!
I'm not the original poster, but I used to own both the 19 and 07. Now I'm known as a "hater". The 07 stays with me and the 19 is gone.
What the 07 does that the 19 doesn't is the trigger pull. The single action pull of the 07 is night and day better than the 19. My old 19 was well broken in, being the original gen 2 that I bought in 1989, with over 10,000 rounds down the barrel. Still the trigger of the 19 was crunchy compared to the 07. The 07 has longer reset but that doesn't bother me at all. The long first shot DA pull doesn't bother me either as I've shot probably as many rounds through my several Beretta pistols as the 19. The DA first shot on the 07 is smooth and light, with the reduced power hammer spring from Cajun Gun Works.
Recoil, to me they're about the same.
Hand fit, the 07 wins, the 19 is blocky.
Accuracy, they're about the same, I'll give a slight edge to the 07.
The 07 is 2 ounce heavier than the 19, negligible.
I like the 07 so much that I also sold my Walther PPQ.
birdkiller
07-30-15, 13:16
Out of curiosity Sam, does the ability to thumb the hammer while re-holstering make any significant difference to you, or is that negligible? I've got two gadgets bought from the indigogo funding for my glocks, but I like what seems like added safety in the P-07 for re-holstering.
Secondly, what holsters are you running for the P-07?
Thanks,
BK
Out of curiosity Sam, does the ability to thumb the hammer while re-holstering make any significant difference to you, or is that negligible? I've got two gadgets bought from the indigogo funding for my glocks, but I like what seems like added safety in the P-07 for re-holstering.
Secondly, what holsters are you running for the P-07?
Thanks,
BK
The ability to put the thumb on the hammer to secure is a nice option, I don't always do it, maybe I should. But I don't carry the gun in AIWB, only on the strong side, I'm always careful to mind my trigger finger, cover garment and everything else that might come in contact with the trigger. Even when I carried the 19, PPQ and my M&P (which I still have, great gun too), I never felt that I was going to blow a hole in any part of my body.
I use a Winthrop leather IWB, for OWB I use a Blade Tech Eclipse and another Winthrop pancake style leather. You can see the leather owb in the picture below.
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IWB:
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Blade Tech Eclipse OWB:
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Sorry SpecWired man if I intruded in your post.
SpecWired - congrats on your CZ's - they look great. Couple of questions:
1. You take great photos, can you take some size comparison pics with your G19, for reference?
The G19 is gone, but I'll see if I can get some comparo pics. All the photos are taken with a Galaxy S6 so it's good they are turning out okay.
2. Not judging or picking, just curious - what does the P07 do that the G19 doesn't, or what does it do significantly better?
Don't know if I would put it in that context. The P07 is closer to what I want in a tool. My reasons won't match other people's needs. If the Glock works for you, I'd stick with it. I stayed with Glock close to a decade, but prefer the CZ design, handling characteristics, ergonomics, external hammer, Omega trigger system and overall feel when shooting. Every CZ I've ever shot is just a real smile inducer.
About the only thing I will miss about the Glock is cheap mags.
Worth noting the only pistol that ever really lured me away from the G19 in the past was the CZ P01. It was lacking in a few areas, so I went back to the G19. The P07 rectifies those areas of concern, and the Glock was retired. If the P07 Gen 2 existed 10 years ago, I probably would never have bothered with Glock to begin with.
Sorry SpecWired man if I intruded in your post.
You contributions are appreciated. Good info for me as well.
The G19 is gone, but I'll see if I can get some comparo pics. All the photos are taken with a Galaxy S6 so it's good they are turning out okay.
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Thanks buddy.
Interesting, you let your 19 go too.
My pics were taken with a Samsung Galaxy S2 , old school :) I tend to use a phone until it dies, then only upgrade to whatever the "almost" obsolete model, it's cheaper that way
Is anyone bothered by the shape of the trigger on the P-07?I'm very tempted to buy one.
Is anyone bothered by the shape of the trigger on the P-07?I'm very tempted to buy one.
The older generation of 07 known as the Duty, like mine, has a more curved trigger. The current production, like SpecWired's, has a straighter trigger, less curve. I can't speak for him or others that have the current generation trigger, but mine doesn't bother me at all. I never really given it much thought, just pull the trigger and it goes bang.
colt191145lover
07-31-15, 14:13
I like the current generations trigger shape very much! YMMV
I love my FDE p-09, it's like a plastic duplicate of my now beloved 75. I really would like to pick up a 07 sometime...
Dustin Cantrell
07-31-15, 21:41
I think you'll be really pleased with both of them. The triggers are decent and really improve with a little bit of work to them. Have done a little trigger work to both my P-07 and P-09, less so on the P-07. Just a little lighter hammer spring at 15lbs and some polishing on the action. P-09 has a short reset kit with extended firing pin and 13lb hammer spring. Have run lots different kinds of ammo through it with no light strikes, even Tula. P-09 sits in a bedside pistol safe and P-07 on my hip. They're so easy to shoot and shoot well.
Worth noting the only pistol that ever really lured me away from the G19 in the past was the CZ P01. It was lacking in a few areas, so I went back to the G19. The P07 rectifies those areas of concern, and the Glock was retired. If the P07 Gen 2 existed 10 years ago, I probably would never have bothered with Glock to begin with.
You contributions are appreciated. Good info for me as well.
What does the P07 do for you that the P01 did not? I have a CZC Protek based off the P01. It is my primary CCW but I am awfully tempted to considering selling the Protek and replacing it with the P07 plus a P09 for the house. $$$$ should break even or better. This is not the first time I have heard this but heard anybody clarify what they thought the P07 brought that the P01 didn't.
Thanks
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The P09 got a function test today. No issues to report after a couple of boxes of ammo, and accuracy overall was above average in my hands.
Though, if I had to use a word to describe the shooting experience: smooth.
You see videos of men like Jerry Miculek and Todd Jarrett, where only the slide moves while everything else is perfectly still. That's how I felt shooting the P09. It's super smooth, low recoil even by 9mm standards and generally handles cycling with perfect poise. You do feel confident behind the trigger.
The single action with the safety levers installed is very clean. Being well acclimated to Glocks, I had concerns about speed but to my surprise the P09 trigger was quick and smooth and kept double taps center mass on silhouette targets.
While not true apples to apples, I have no regrets over replacing the Glock 22 with CZ P09.
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SpecWired - congrats on your CZ's - they look great. Couple of questions:
1. You take great photos, can you take some size comparison pics with your G19, for reference?
2. Not judging or picking, just curious - what does the P07 do that the G19 doesn't, or what does it do significantly better?
Thanks!
Hope this helps.
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They are really close in size. I picked up an 07 and just put the first 50 rounds through it. I don't see my G19 going anywhere. Honestly I prefer the Walther P99 in a DA/SA role. The CZ seems like a fine option, but it does not particularly stand out to me. Maybe with time.
They are really close in size. I picked up an 07 and just put the first 50 rounds through it. I don't see my G19 going anywhere. Honestly I prefer the Walther P99 in a DA/SA role. The CZ seems like a fine option, but it does not particularly stand out to me. Maybe with time.
I see your Gen2 P07 shipped with a lanyard loop as well. I just replaced mine quick fast. I could have just cut it off, but it was a test of CZ's support. I ordered the flat mainspring plug from the CZ's web store and it was at my door in 4 days. I would say that is a positive support experience in the event I need parts in the future.
P07 vs G19 size comparison
Grip length is very close
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Not much difference in slide length
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Grip length
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/06/fa04323bcd267cc27ea61ea947b6d8ad.jpg
Mags are the same size and capacity.
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/06/e5c50672223c4769e819ecee9d10259e.jpg
Profile shot
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/06/76939a01321b5781220e974b89463ff7.jpg
With the Sig 320
http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/06/8f9c9ffb592bebf94a9e3aa4a715826e.jpg
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using Tapatalk
Man, that Sig looks like a chunky monkey next to the other two!
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