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C4IGrant
09-25-15, 08:35
Saw this article by Forbes come up on FB and thought it was interesting. Stats are from the Bureau of Labor.


1. Assemble, install, repair, or maintain electric or hydraulic freight or passenger elevators, escalators, or dumbwaiters.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $109,450
Mean annual income: $76,490
Total employed: 20,590
Top-paying state: Oregon

2. Teach courses in childcare, family relations, finance, nutrition, and related subjects pertaining to home management. Includes both teachers primarily engaged in teaching and those who do a combination of teaching and research.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $114,150
Mean annual income: $68,030
Total employed: 3,620
Top-paying state: Michigan

3. Inspect equipment or goods in connection with the safe transport of cargo or people. Includes rail transportation inspectors, such as freight inspectors; rail inspectors; and other inspectors of transportation vehicles, not elsewhere classified.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $114,360
Mean annual income: $70,820
Total employed: 24,350
Top-paying state: Washington, D.C.

4. Originate and prepare written material, such as scripts, stories, advertisements, and other material.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $114,820
Mean annual income: $67,870
Total employed: 43,500
Top-paying state: Washington, D.C.

5. Apply makeup to performers to reflect period, setting, and situation of their role.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $115,030
Mean annual income: $60,830
Total employed: 2,610
Top-paying state: New York

6. Research the distribution, circulation, and physical properties of underground and surface waters; and study the form and intensity of precipitation, its rate of infiltration into the soil, movement through the earth, and its return to the ocean and atmosphere.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $117,190
Mean annual income: $81,930
Total employed: 6,580
Top-paying state: California

7. Plan, direct, or coordinate gaming operations in a casino. May formulate house rules.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $119,950
Mean annual income: $75,590
Total employed: 3,870
Top-paying state: Nevada

8. Plan, direct, or coordinate the management or operation of farms, ranches, greenhouses, aquacultural operations, nurseries, timber tracts, or other agricultural establishments. May hire, train, and supervise farm workers or contract for services to carry out the day-to-day activities of the managed operation. May engage in or supervise planting, cultivating, harvesting, and financial and marketing activities.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $121,690
Mean annual income: $72,570
Total employed: 4,300
Top-paying state: California

9. Conduct investigations related to suspected violations of Federal, State, or local laws to prevent or solve crimes.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $127,400
Mean annual income: $80,540
Total employed: 108,720
Top-paying state: Washington, D.C.

10. Command or supervise operations of ships and water vessels, such as tugboats and ferryboats. Required to hold license issued by U.S. Coast Guard.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $128,330
Mean annual income: $79,180
Total employed: 30,690
Top-paying state: Texas

11. Teach courses in drama, music, and the arts including fine and applied art, such as painting and sculpture, or design and crafts. Includes both teachers primarily engaged in teaching and those who do a combination of teaching and research.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $128,330
Mean annual income: $75,350
Total employed: 97,500
Top-paying state: New York

12. Plan, direct, or coordinate the services or resources of funeral homes. Includes activities such as determining prices for services or merchandise and managing the facilities of funeral homes.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $137,410
Mean annual income: $81,080Total employed: 8,330
Top-paying state: New York

13. Conduct research in fundamental mathematics or in application of mathematical techniques to science, management, and other fields. Solve problems in various fields using mathematical methods.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $157,090
Mean annual income: $104,350
Total employed: 3,130
Top-paying state: New Jersey

14. Observe, research, and interpret astronomical phenomena to increase basic knowledge or apply such information to practical problems.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $162,630
Mean annual income: $107,140
Total employed: 1,660
Top-paying state: California

15. Analyze, interpret, and broadcast news received from various sources.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $182,470
Mean annual income: $84,380
Total employed: 4,310
Top-paying state: Oklahoma



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4DAIVI PAI2K5
09-25-15, 08:50
I see Jailing in Ohio is not on that list... Some reason i'm not surprised by this

Alex V
09-25-15, 09:18
Designing buildings isn't there either. This sucks...

brickboy240
09-25-15, 10:42
I have several owner-operator big rig drivers that work for our company and they earn well over 6 figures...driving an 18 wheeler.

That is another job you really would not expect it but many (especially if you haul hazmat or oversized loads) make big bank.

7.62NATO
09-25-15, 10:49
I have several owner-operator big rig drivers that work for our company and they earn well over 6 figures...driving an 18 wheeler.

That is another job you really would not expect it but many (especially if you haul hazmat or oversized loads) make big bank.

That's pretty good, unless you have a wife and kids.

C4IGrant
09-25-15, 10:49
I have several owner-operator big rig drivers that work for our company and they earn well over 6 figures...driving an 18 wheeler.

That is another job you really would not expect it but many (especially if you haul hazmat or oversized loads) make big bank.

Yeah, I have a friend that does this and made over $100k in his FIRST year.


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C4IGrant
09-25-15, 10:49
That's pretty good, unless you have a wife and kids.

Same as being in the Military AND you can be in constant contact, etc.



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chuckman
09-25-15, 10:50
I had to read that a couple times. How do I get a gig teaching childcare for a hundred grand??

7.62NATO
09-25-15, 10:51
Same as being in the Military AND you can be in constant contact, etc.



C4

Active duty military have it worse. I don't think either profession is healthy for a family.

TXBK
09-25-15, 11:24
I imagine that most of the top paying jobs require one to travel, and travel often. On one hand, it allows members of a family to enjoy experiences that they otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity to experience. On the other, it limits face time...except for Facetime, thanks to Apple. Some families cannot handle the distance and extended absence, and some families might not survive without it.

There are certainly a few occupations on that list that I find surprising, and a few that I am not the least bit surprised to see.

26 Inf
09-25-15, 12:42
I would guess that in several of those jobs wages are also driven by unions or trade associations to some extent.

In my mind numbers 1, 3, 4, 5, 10 probably have some of those relationships. I hesitated on number 9, but I would be hard pressed to say it doesn't either.

I though railroad engineer or airline pilot might be in the overall list, surprised they weren't.

BIGUGLY
09-25-15, 12:45
If your lucky you get a job driving radioactive material around. Those guys can work that gig for about 15 years and then retire. Or one of the drivers of some of the most dangerous hazmat loads, they have some great equipment, one heck of a paycheck. Always fun when escorting a disguised trailer that when you talk to the security team with the driver inform you that if it leaks your dead and if it leaks in a large city most of that city is dead. Kind of makes you second guess volunteering for some of those escorts.

MegademiC
09-25-15, 13:17
Keep in mind, some of those have a lot of hours involved. My friend made 6 figures doing signal maintenence for a railroad. He worked 70 hour per week minimum, on call most of the time.

Also, is this including benefits?

SilverBullet432
09-25-15, 13:23
I have several owner-operator big rig drivers that work for our company and they earn well over 6 figures...driving an 18 wheeler.

That is another job you really would not expect it but many (especially if you haul hazmat or oversized loads) make big bank.



The way the oilfield is right now, not many truckers making 100k plus still... Maybe in 2013 yeah the oil haulers still are as far as i know. But what ive seen they've got a 300k debt on their truck and trailer...

Eurodriver
09-25-15, 14:07
The list is most surprising six figure jobs.

That's why many things are not on that list.

FromMyColdDeadHand
09-25-15, 14:14
4. Originate and prepare written material, such as scripts, stories, advertisements, and other material.

Top 10% annual income, on average: $114,820
Mean annual income: $67,870
Total employed: 43,500
Top-paying state: Washington, D.C.

Writing govt propaganda.

Moose-Knuckle
09-27-15, 01:59
Most people have no concept of life work balance. Looking at the data the US is worst at this. Living beyond their means, keeping up the with Jones', getting a new car every two years, buying the latest iPhone/electronic widget every other month, etc.

The department I just left we had guys making six figures, they worked massive overtime on top of part times. Chose to work night shift so they could moonlight during the day. Never saw their families and never got any sleep but damn they sure payed mortgages on huge homes and had the latest greatest automobiles.

That is a good way to get divorced and die at an early age leaving someone else to raise your children.


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Dave_M
09-27-15, 02:09
Writing govt propaganda.

My wife, formerly being involved in work like that, would say "products, not propaganda". :D

wilson1911
09-27-15, 02:36
The way the oilfield is right now, not many truckers making 100k plus still... Maybe in 2013 yeah the oil haulers still are as far as i know. But what ive seen they've got a 300k debt on their truck and trailer...

The oilfield is still ok, but not great. What I do pays 200-300k a year. When its slow like now I would say about 160-210k.

SilverBullet432
09-27-15, 02:56
I work everyday but we are stuck to 40 hours unless something blows up or takes a lightning hit..

Jer
09-27-15, 12:25
The oilfield is still ok, but not great. What I do pays 200-300k a year. When its slow like now I would say about 160-210k.

Engineer?

SilverBullet432
09-27-15, 13:12
Engineer?


Probably consultant engineer. I imagine a company engineer has a fixed salary.

Turnkey11
09-27-15, 20:06
I see Jailing in Ohio is not on that list... Some reason i'm not surprised by this

Being a CO for the state of California gets you pretty close to this list.

wilson1911
09-27-15, 21:47
Engineer?

Cased hole engineer. I perforate horizontal wells. I work with a salary +commission. So it can vary quite a bit. When we are busy I do about 20k a month in bonus. It all sounds great until you figure out taxes. My bonus is considered a Luxury, which gets hit at a flat 45% tax rate. All said and done, I get about 50% of my gross monthly.

Most consultants on frac jobs make a flat 25k a month, but that makes you have your own business. Or 800-1500 per day. Depends on where you are at.

SilverBullet432
09-27-15, 21:50
According to halliburton data, field, cased hole engineer makes 63k a year? Id love to work where you are lol. Then again, if you're your own firm, and have your own customers, everything is gravy. Although when times get rough, the consultants are usually the first to go.

26 Inf
09-27-15, 21:59
Cased hole engineer. I perforate horizontal wells. I work with a salary +commission. So it can vary quite a bit. When we are busy I do about 20k a month in bonus. It all sounds great until you figure out taxes. My bonus is considered a Luxury, which gets hit at a flat 45% tax rate. All said and done, I get about 50% of my gross monthly.

My uncle does that, of course he raises horses as a hobby, so he's pretty much broke all the time.

BoringGuy45
09-27-15, 23:53
If you want an almost guaranteed six figure job, move to Williston, North Dakota and get a job with an oil company. Yeah, you'll be working 80+ hour weeks in temperatures that dip below zero regularly in the winter. You'll probably living in a camp with a bunch of other guys or paying New York City prices for rent if you have a family. But, if you can tough it out for awhile, you could leave with a shit ton of money. If you live in one of the camps, after taxes and a couple fees, you'll be taking home pretty much everything you make. I'm thinking for anyone who has been in the military and been deployed this wouldn't be so bad, especially if you're single.

AKDoug
09-28-15, 00:22
If you want an almost guaranteed six figure job, move to Williston, North Dakota and get a job with an oil company. Yeah, you'll be working 80+ hour weeks in temperatures that dip below zero regularly in the winter. You'll probably living in a camp with a bunch of other guys or paying New York City prices for rent if you have a family. But, if you can tough it out for awhile, you could leave with a shit ton of money. If you live in one of the camps, after taxes and a couple fees, you'll be taking home pretty much everything you make. I'm thinking for anyone who has been in the military and been deployed this wouldn't be so bad, especially if you're single.

I guess you missed the huge downturn the entire oil industry faced this summer? 185 rigs down to 76 rigs in less than a year drilling in the Bakken fields. Low oil prices are gutting all of the marginal operations, including those in Alaska.

brickboy240
09-28-15, 11:13
This won't last forever. The Saudis and Russians cannot keep this up for years.

Besides, the electric or solar powered car is also not coming.

The oil patch WILL come back...it always does.

wilson1911
09-28-15, 12:41
Williston is one of those places that work on rotations. Most do 21 on a with 9 off. The major downside to my profession is work hours as you said. 70-120 hours per week is the norm. It works out with 12 hr shifts with 2.5 hours of drive time where I live. They have what are called man camps. Kind of like a dorm, cafeteria, weight room, movies room etc all rolled into one complex. Some are nicer than others. It's not my cup of tea to work up there tho. Way too cold.

Silver, what Halliburton is stating is salary only. And its actually quite low. Depending on what market you are in it can be anywhere from 6-9k a month. This sounds really stupid, but we engineers do not count our salary when we look at what we make. When it is discussed, it's the bonus only. So if I tell you I made 15k, it's actually 15(bonus)+8(salary)=23k for the month. I was working for one of the bigger company's as an employee. I am on vacation atm, I quit March 12. Been sailing in the Caribbean etc since I quit.

In the DFW area they only frac 1 maybe 2 stages a day so you make 3-5k a month in bonus. That's not a great deal of money, but still ok. I work in Ok, in the mississippi here, so we have shorter frac times. This lets us do about 4-6 stages per shift. The record at my old shop was held by Caleb. He pumped 16 guns down and was rigged down in 24 hrs. That's very fast. All done by one crew.

The oilfield is in a slump atm, but not too bad. The prices being down is what hurts the most. Our stage price is half of what it was a year ago. So company's are working from cash reserves until things pick up. And while the market consolidates a bit. Allocations(drilling budget) for big company's like Chesapeake and EOG, etc will be made in the next 2 months. This is what will give the outlook for the next year. If they are low, we will remain in a slow period for another year.

Boringguy45, yes you can make a lot of money, but the convenience store and bs can eat it up very fast. The younger guys have a hard time managing their money....well actually many do. It's not how much you make, but how much you do NOT spend.

AKdoug do not believe everything you hear in the news, it's 1% truth and the rest is propaganda. Yes its slow and prices are down, but some companys are still doing ok. It's more about taking market share for when the prices go back up. Weakening other company's position.
And to give you an example, I was sailing with a doctor that made around 300k Teaching academics in NYC. His statement was"I need to make more money". I told him he needed to change his view. Spend less and you will achieve your goal. He lives in a 1 bedroom apt, is single, and he has a doorman and a grocery store in his building for 4k a month. I live on a 1/3 of that monthly, only because I am single also. He did say that he may cut his cable TV off tho......lol???:(
To be honest, I can live off my salary alone. This lets me put into savings all my bonus if I decide to. I have been thru highs and lows. I hope I am a bit wiser than I once was. Living below your means takes dedication for the long haul. It's guns that is killing my budget always.

alvincullumyork
09-28-15, 12:52
Wilson1911, what kind of degree do you have? Civil? Petro? Mech? Chem?


I may ride a little fast and someday it may catch up and bite me in the ass but maybe not if I give it just a little more gas.

fallenromeo
09-28-15, 13:02
I know a high school spanish teacher making just under 110K. She is 34, been doing it for 12 years.

KalashniKEV
09-28-15, 13:03
This won't last forever. The Saudis and Russians cannot keep this up for years.

They can absolutely keep it up as long as they need to- which will be until the last highly-leveraged US competitor goes bankrupt because they can't pay their notes.

wilson1911
09-28-15, 13:08
[QUOTE=alvincullumyork;2185716]Wilson1911, what kind of degree do you have? Civil? Petro? Mech? Chem?

I do not have a degree, although most in my profession do now days. I have OJT. Started in 1994. I was an openhole enj before crossing over to casedhole. Wanted more money. I have been to school tho. The young ones have no exp, but lots of book power. EXP requires you to know what to do when you set down or get hung up in the well. Not getting pumped off is key. Pumping down guns is an art. A good Eng will not have any failures and be able to adapt to well conditions instantly. I work with explosives and electronic tools.