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https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=47656d58010071ec1296534c1d5ef691&tab=core&_cview=0
Presumably the above mags are Colt-approved third party mags? I didn't think Colt manufactured their own.
Paladin4415
07-29-08, 23:47
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=47656d58010071ec1296534c1d5ef691&tab=core&_cview=0
Presumably the above mags are Colt-approved third party mags? I didn't think Colt manufactured their own.
Current "Colt" mags are Okay mags with Colt floor plates.
The U.S. Department of State Office of Acquisition Management
Who is that? what do they do?
I that the Colt mags were made by NHMTG in Hartsford, CT. Hmmm...
dwhitehorne
07-30-08, 08:54
The U.S. Department of State Office of Acquisition Management
Who is that? what do they do?
I use to be a security guard for DOS in 1993 after I got out of the Corps. I worked out in the State Department warehouses in Newington, VA. When you think about all of the 140 or so embassies and consulates we have around the world. That is a lot of security cameras, office supplies, vehicles, and weapons they buy. State also supplies the weapons for Marines on Embassy Duty. It use to be S&W model 19's, 870's and a few UZI's and mini 14's. The Marines were prohibited from using military weapons. I'm sure the 1500 or so DS agents use M4's now. David
I that the Colt mags were made by NHMTG in Hartsford, CT. Hmmm...
Yes. Okay/NHMTG have the same Cage code. I don't know why they make mags under both names.
Yes. Okay/NHMTG have the same Cage code. I don't know why they make mags under both names.
They make them under different names because the US Govt says that if you supply them with mags, you cannot sell the same mag to the public. So companies create other name into which they can sell the same mag.
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They make them under different names because the US Govt says that if you supply them with mags, you cannot sell the same mag to the public. So companies create other name into which they can sell the same mag.
I've heard that too. It makes sense. You hardly see many New Okay mags anymore.
I received my DoS Armorer certification from the facility in Springfield, VA. They have a shit load of weapons in that place. They also do all the vehicle up-armoring as well.
State also supplies the weapons for Marines on Embassy Duty. It use to be S&W model 19's, 870's and a few UZI's and mini 14's. The Marines were prohibited from using military weapons.
Not my experience, M16s, M249s and M9s were common embassies I was attached to in the 80s/90s. Did see some 870s and Smith revolvers though. never an Uzi or Mini-14. Not saying it did not happen.
Getting back on subject, this procurement might also be for all of the sub-contractors also, not just DOS employees or Marines.
Not mine either and I know several former Marine MSG personnel. These mags are more than likely for all the weapons in use by the DSS and all the sub-contractors. The State Dept. owns a crap load of weapons. I am really curious at to why this is generating some much interest? Just another typical contract.
Not my experience, M16s, M249s and M9s were common embassies I was attached to in the 80s/90s. Did see some 870s and Smith revolvers though. never an Uzi or Mini-14. Not saying it did not happen.
Getting back on subject, this procurement might also be for all of the sub-contractors also, not just DOS employees or Marines.
Sidewinder6
07-30-08, 18:45
I received my DoS Armorer certification from the facility in Springfield, VA. They have a shit load of weapons in that place. They also do all the vehicle up-armoring as well.
L.O.C. ? :cool:
What is L.O.C?
L.O.C. ? :cool:
sundance435
07-30-08, 20:04
I use to be a security guard for DOS in 1993 after I got out of the Corps. I worked out in the State Department warehouses in Newington, VA. When you think about all of the 140 or so embassies and consulates we have around the world. That is a lot of security cameras, office supplies, vehicles, and weapons they buy. State also supplies the weapons for Marines on Embassy Duty. It use to be S&W model 19's, 870's and a few UZI's and mini 14's. The Marines were prohibited from using military weapons. I'm sure the 1500 or so DS agents use M4's now. David
My buddy who just got out of the Corps after doing MSG for 3 years told me they were issued M16's and M9's, with 870's in the armory as well.
dwhitehorne
07-31-08, 11:40
My buddy who just got out of the Corps after doing MSG for 3 years told me they were issued M16's and M9's, with 870's in the armory as well.
I was curious when this would happen. When I left Ottawa Canada in July 93 the DOS was in the process of transitioning to Sigs from the 2 inch Model 19's. There was a debate then if the Marine Security Guards would ever switch to the State issued Sigs or try and go to the Beretta 92's we were use to. When I was in Kenya in 96 the MSG on post was using a model 19. I worked in Dushanbe, Tajikistan in the fall of 97 and State's Mobile Security Division was issuing out 4 inch barrel 19's and the top folding stock 870's that looked like MSG weapons to the Ambassador local guard force. To my knowledge the full auto mini 14's were just used in Columbia, Peru and Salvador. I think we had one uzi in the safe when I was assigned to Frankfurt in July 90 and I was given an uzi on post during Bush's visit to Kiev in July 91. David
Sidewinder6
07-31-08, 15:18
What is L.O.C?
Logistics Operations Center in Springfield. Right off 95.
I only knew it as SA-7. Nice little collection of red brick buildings.
Logistics Operations Center in Springfield. Right off 95.
All of the Gov contract mags will have a "33710" stamped on them, and they are available if you look for them.
Sidewinder6
07-31-08, 20:08
I only knew it as SA-7. Nice little collection of red brick buildings.
I think I was thinking about a different place.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=6808+Loisdale+Road+Springfield+,+VA+22150&sll=38.768397,-77.179792&sspn=0.005814,0.01369&ie=UTF8&ll=38.767084,-77.178419&spn=0.011628,0.02738&t=h&z=16
dwhitehorne
08-01-08, 06:31
I think I was thinking about a different place.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=6808+Loisdale+Road+Springfield+,+VA+22150&sll=38.768397,-77.179792&sspn=0.005814,0.01369&ie=UTF8&ll=38.767084,-77.178419&spn=0.011628,0.02738&t=h&z=16
Same type of facility, different agency. David
Sidewinder6
08-02-08, 14:43
That's GSA.
Ah, you are right.
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