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MJDGator
10-03-15, 12:00
Here is a build that I just completed today. This will be a range and HD gun:

http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp83232%3Euqcshlukaxroqdfv3%3B547%3Enu%3D325%3B%3E763%3E756%3EWSNRCG%3D3%3B3364595732%3Cnu0mrj

Details:
Hogan OD Green anodized lower w/ambi bolt release
BCM Blem upper
BCM KMR 7"
Ballistic Advantage 8.3" 300blk Hanson profile barrel
Precision Armament EFAB muzzle brake, attached with accuwasher system which worked great.
BCM Intermediate buffer tube (A5) w/ Sprinco green spring and A5H1 buffer may go heavier depending on how it shoots. Also BCM QD end plate
Magpul STR stock and K2+ grip
BAD ambi safety
Seekins bolt catch
Wilson Combat NP3 BCG - not wildly impressed. Has some tool marks. Not a big deal but probably could have found a cheaper option for the same quality (like Sionics or Robar).
BCM Gunfighter Charging handle Mod 4
Troy fixed sights - not in the pic

Future plans:
Geissele SDC trigger or may just go with ALG ACT depending on funds
Aimpoint Micro
BCM KAG

Rhino8541
10-06-15, 00:02
Nice!! How do you like the .300? I've only shot it once, but would love to do another upper build. .300 seems like a good candidate. I was thinking of going with an 11" barrel, any thoughts?

elephant
10-06-15, 01:14
Looks Good!! I like the contrast of black/green. Great Job!!

MJDGator
10-06-15, 12:44
Nice!! How do you like the .300? I've only shot it once, but would love to do another upper build. .300 seems like a good candidate. I was thinking of going with an 11" barrel, any thoughts?

I will let you know when I get it up and running properly...lol. Having failure to extract (spent casing left in chamber) on every round. Spent brass has some unusual markings at the base of the neck near the top of the shoulder. I am working with the barrel maker to figure out the issue. So far though in single shot mode I like it a lot.

Rhino8541
10-06-15, 14:07
Ahh, that's terrible. I went with a Noveske barrel on my .223 build. It was pricey, but I've never had one issue with it. Good luck figuring your issue out. Keep us updated.

MJDGator
10-06-15, 14:51
Thanks will keep you posted. I already spoke with Clint from BA and he gave me some things to try before we take the next step. It may be a weak extractor. There are no marks on the rims of the cases and there are no brass shavings or pieces on the bolt face. I am going to try another bolt.

Pic of the brass. 3 on the Left is the Remington and 3 on the Right is Fiocchi. The Fiocchi were a little hot. They had flattened primers while the Remington stuff did not have any pressure signs. You can see a ring around the brass on the neck just above the shoulder. That is what concerned me.

Pics of fired brass (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UqamPyUmtM8_czRzBEt9l6JGhMYseQ1Png/view?usp=sharing)

Rhino8541
10-07-15, 22:19
Thanks will keep you posted. I already spoke with Clint from BA and he gave me some things to try before we take the next step. It may be a weak extractor. There are no marks on the rims of the cases and there are no brass shavings or pieces on the bolt face. I am going to try another bolt.

Pic of the brass. 3 on the Left is the Remington and 3 on the Right is Fiocchi. The Fiocchi were a little hot. They had flattened primers while the Remington stuff did not have any pressure signs. You can see a ring around the brass on the neck just above the shoulder. That is what concerned me.

Pics of fired brass (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UqamPyUmtM8_czRzBEt9l6JGhMYseQ1Png/view?usp=sharing)

Yea, the rings are pretty clear.

ShooterM4
10-08-15, 01:30
Very nice!!! Thanks for sharing.

KingCobra
10-08-15, 07:24
I can't wait to have a .300 sbr.. Whenever bcm finally starts selling their blackout uppers. Hopefully early next year.

SonOfAGunn
10-08-15, 09:50
Future plans:
Geissele SDC trigger or may just go with ALG ACT depending on funds
Aimpoint Micro
BCM KAG

You forgot to add "Suppressor" to the list. :smile:



For the trigger choices I would go ACT and use the 200 that I saved on a tax stamp. I already had an SD-E in my V5 and really liked that trigger so I figured it would be great in my DD MK18 and sure enough, I liked it in there as well. When I built my 11.5 SBR I decided to get the ALG ACT since I went over budget on my rail. The ACT is fantastic and I have no thoughts of switching it to an SD-E, or any two stage trigger in the future. I usually shoot my SBR's at close distances and the ACT fits the bill nicely. When I start building an 18 or 20 inch rifle I plan on taking the trigger from my MK18 and getting an ACT to put in its place.

The rifle looks good!

MJDGator
10-09-15, 15:33
You forgot to add "Suppressor" to the list. :smile:



For the trigger choices I would go ACT and use the 200 that I saved on a tax stamp. I already had an SD-E in my V5 and really liked that trigger so I figured it would be great in my DD MK18 and sure enough, I liked it in there as well. When I built my 11.5 SBR I decided to get the ALG ACT since I went over budget on my rail. The ACT is fantastic and I have no thoughts of switching it to an SD-E, or any two stage trigger in the future. I usually shoot my SBR's at close distances and the ACT fits the bill nicely. When I start building an 18 or 20 inch rifle I plan on taking the trigger from my MK18 and getting an ACT to put in its place.

The rifle looks good!

Thanks for the input. For guns intended purpose I think you are 100% right. The ALG ACT is the way to go. I am not planning on trying to get .5" groups at 100 yards. Forgot the suppressor lol. That will come at some point I think. A guy I used to work with was giving me a hard time about going with a 300blk SBR without a suppressor. Granted he is a suppressor nut. I think he has a suppressor for every gun he owns lol.

MJDGator
10-09-15, 15:43
Here are some updated photos:

http://i.imgur.com/wN70ODu.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/sAKK3yx.jpg?1

MJDGator
10-28-15, 15:06
Ballistic Advantage tested my barrel and did not have any issues but sent me a new barrel anyways. I got it out to the range today and it ran like a top. Just needs the o-ring on the extractor spring. Since BCM's site states that they recommend the o-ring on their 300blk rifes I am considering this a non-issue (AAC also has an o-ring installed on their bolts). I do think something was a little funky on the first barrel. Not sure what but now without the o-ring I get failure to eject with the case laying loosely on top of the magazine instead of a being stuck in the chamber and no odd scratches/rings on the spent cases.

Benito
10-28-15, 22:29
Ballistic Advantage tested my barrel and did not have any issues but sent me a new barrel anyways. I got it out to the range today and it ran like a top. Just needs the o-ring on the extractor spring. Since BCM's site states that they recommend the o-ring on their 300blk rifes I am considering this a non-issue (AAC also has an o-ring installed on their bolts). I do think something was a little funky on the first barrel. Not sure what but now without the o-ring I get failure to eject with the case laying loosely on top of the magazine instead of a being stuck in the chamber and no odd scratches/rings on the spent cases.

I've never read anything about BCM recommending the extractor spring O-ring on .300 BLK rifles. Why would this be any different than with a 5.56?
If anything, the higher chamber pressure and presumably faster bolt carrier speed would require less extractor tension. I could very well be mistaken.

MJDGator
10-29-15, 04:19
I've never read anything about BCM recommending the extractor spring O-ring on .300 BLK rifles. Why would this be any different than with a 5.56?
If anything, the higher chamber pressure and presumably faster bolt carrier speed would require less extractor tension. I could very well be mistaken.

Copied directly from their website. If you go to their 300blk barrels listed on their site and click on a barrel to read the description. It is the last sentence right above the bullet points giving the barrel specs: "BCM also recommends running the Crane O-ring (provided with all BCM Bolt Carrier Groups) over the extractor with 300 Blackout."

I thought 300 blk had the same chamber pressure as .223 which is less than 5.56?

Clint
10-29-15, 08:57
I've never read anything about BCM recommending the extractor spring O-ring on .300 BLK rifles.
Why would this be any different than with a 5.56?
If anything, the higher chamber pressure and presumably faster bolt carrier speed would require less extractor tension.
I could very well be mistaken.



I thought 300 blk had the same chamber pressure as .223 which is less than 5.56?

Peak chamber pressure has very little to do with extraction effort or carrier velocity.

Those are primarily determined by the shape of the cartridge's pressure curve and it's interaction with the gas system length, barrel length and the reciprocating mass.

BC98
10-29-15, 09:07
I thought 300 blk had the same chamber pressure as .223 which is less than 5.56?

You're correct. Per SAAMI guidelines, max average pressure for 300 BLK and .223 are both 55,000 psi. Of course, this would only be for supersonic loads. Subs would be lower.

Benito
10-29-15, 09:33
Hmm, I did not know that.

GazillionUSMC
12-13-15, 18:40
Nice .300 blackout. I like that lower!

Stengun
01-01-16, 09:06
Howdy MJDGator,

Nice build!

I'm a huge fan of the .300Blk and I like your build.

Your original barrel had a screwed up chamber in the shoulder/neck area. BA should have been honest about the barrel instead of claiming they didn't have an issue.

Paul