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Playboy covers up and will no longer publish nudity.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/10/13/playboy-covers-up/
Starting in March, Playboy will no longer feature full nudity. The change — which might seem minor to those unfamiliar with the magazine but is the adult entertainment equivalent of Bob Dylan going electric — is part of a broader redesign of the publication, Playboy said in a statement.
Playboy called it a “a top-to-bottom redesign,” a “reimagined Playboy magazine [that] will include a completely modern editorial and design approach, and, for the first time in its history, will no longer feature nudity in its pages.” It promised to “continue to publish sexy, seductive pictorials of the world’s most beautiful women, including its iconic Playmates, all shot by some of today’s most renowned photographers.”
Any wagers on the impact this will have on subscription sales?
wildcard600
10-13-15, 07:51
shocked they are still around honestly.
Straight Shooter
10-13-15, 07:53
Anyone STILL even look at or read that lib pos mag?
This is kind of coinkadental :) - a couple of us were discussing this type of thing yesterday - I believe that if you had two attractive women of equal proportion in a room, one nude and the other dressed in a tight sweater with no brassiere, most men would be more attentive to the nipples concealed by the sweater than the bare ones. I think the hidden fruit has a greater draw.
Honestly, I've only thumbed through but a handful of their magazines and that was years ago; never once reading an article. It's just surprising to me that what is their bread & butter and what Hugh has built an empire on, they have decided to do away with. It's akin to MotorTrend or CycleWorld not publishing reviews on automobiles or motorcycles.
There are other rags out there that have much better or specific content out there that also have models in them.
Apparently they feel it's a smart marketing move but it sure seems like they're scuttling their own ship.
Honestly, I've only thumbed through but a handful of their magazines and that was years ago; never once reading an article. It's just surprising to me that what is their bread & butter and what Hugh has built an empire on, they have decided to do away with. It's akin to MotorTrend or CycleWorld not publishing reviews on automobiles or motorcycles.
There are other rags out there that have much better or specific content out there that also have models in them.
Apparently they feel it's a smart marketing move but it sure seems like they're scuttling their own ship.
Well magazines like Maxim can be bought by minors where as Playboy in it's current state can not. Maybe they're trying to cash in on that market.
Plus with the internet in the palm of your hand...
Well magazines like Maxim can be bought by minors where as Playboy in it's current state can not. Maybe they're trying to cash in on that market.
That's what I mean. I would think they're entering a much tougher market now. Unless they really up their game elsewhere, I don't see them staying afloat.
Plus with the internet in the palm of your hand...
Nice choice of words. ;)
"Keep calm & Chive on"
Averageman
10-13-15, 09:04
They are actually returning to their roots, if you have a chance take a look at a few issues from the 60's; they're more cheesecake than porn.
They had better literature (Ian Flemming comes to mind) and they were a little less political.
Perhaps if the moderate the progressive tripe and go back to finding good articles they can save themselves.
I doubt it will happen though. At their height they were selling 5.5 million issues a month, now they are down to 800K.
Also just read that their Publication circulation is at 800k, down from 5.6M in 1975. Big drop. Maybe they are desperate for a change but doing it the wrong way.
Nothing is forever and we are simply witnessing an empire in decay, if not in its death throes.
Airbrushed/Photoshopped pictures of nude women haven't interested me since I was like 10 years old anyway.
I had enough wild sexual encounters in my 20s to effectively desensitize me to anything that isn't directly in front of me, 18-30 years of age, sexy as hell, and rubbing directly on my penis.
Doc Safari
10-13-15, 09:42
Anyone STILL even look at or read that lib pos mag?
LOL. Took the words right out of my mouth. I hadn't read one in years and I was shocked when I picked one up at a friend's house and it was nothing but a cover-to-cover promotion of anti-Christian liberalism.
May it go down the tubes faster than a swirling turd.
Airbrushed/Photoshopped pictures of nude women haven't interested me since I was like 10 years old anyway.
I had enough wild sexual encounters in my 20s to effectively desensitize me to anything that isn't directly in front of me, 18-30 years of age, sexy as hell, and rubbing directly on my penis.
TMI dude, TMI...
TMI dude, TMI...
Yeah, thought about that after I posted it. Didn't mean to offend.
Straight Shooter
10-13-15, 10:14
LOL. Took the words right out of my mouth. I hadn't read one in years and I was shocked when I picked one up at a friend's house and it was nothing but a cover-to-cover promotion of anti-Christian liberalism.
May it go down the tubes faster than a swirling turd.
A-MEN!
brickboy240
10-13-15, 11:18
Is anyone really going to miss overly Photo-Shopped images of women with fake boobs and faker tans?
Nobody ever read for the articles.
They didn't have enough brunettes anyways.
titsonritz
10-13-15, 11:48
A skin mag showing less skin. Not impressed.
At least Hustler and Penthouse never compromised their journalistic integrity
We're so de-sensitized, on account of the rot of our culture, we require more stimuli.
We're so de-sensitized, on account of the rot of our culture, we require more stimuli.
Not really. We were born naked and if you subscribe to the Garden of Eden; we were meant to be naked. Why is the beauty of a human body offensive?
Lust is a sin, I guess. But people can handle someone's head being split open open with a .308, but a healthy adult nude woman is offensive?
I dunno man....
Moose-Knuckle
10-13-15, 13:57
Chock up a win against "The War on Women".
Hugh Hefner's daughter pretty much runs the show anyways and has for some time. With the advent of the internet nobody buys skin mags anymore. And as Egon proclaimed, "Print is dead."
As a connoissuer I always found Playboy to be a bore, I mean it's artistic nude photos of women with fake tans, fake breasts, fake hair, fake etc.
No thanks, give me a HUSTLER anyday.
Now classic Playboy magazine from the 50's-70's are a-okay.
Edit to add:
Don't kid yourself guys, Playboy didn't come to this decision due to the Moral Right, they are pandering to the feminazi's and slump in sales.
Doc Safari
10-13-15, 14:01
The question is whether there will be a backlash like "New Coke" or if the porn world will reply with a collective yawn.
Well I suppose I now have to eventually pick up the last 10 years so I have the complete canon.
I actually went the other direction and have been collecting high quality titles from the 50s and 60s.
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2wgyag2.jpg
We're so de-sensitized, on account of the rot of our culture, we require more stimuli.
Speak for yourself. As soon as most adult magazines went hardcore about 10 years ago I got pretty bored by it. I prefer classic pictorials myself.
Doc Safari
10-13-15, 15:02
Speak for yourself. As soon as most adult magazines went hardcore about 10 years ago I got pretty bored by it. I prefer classic pictorials myself.
I second that. I still get nostalgic when I run across a vintage '70's CLUB at a yard sale or something.
The only ones I would buy were the special celebrity ones like Brooke Burke.
Also:
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I too miss the burlesque era.
Enough skin to be titillated and enough mystery to be captivated.
Plus they looked like women. Not barbies.
ETA while I respect vintage porn um......do you ever worry when you buy it? It is used after all. Not trying to be gross. Serious question
I too miss the burlesque era.
Enough skin to be titillated and enough mystery to be captivated.
Plus they looked like women. Not barbies.
ETA while I respect vintage porn um......do you ever worry when you buy it? It is used after all. Not trying to be gross. Serious question
Yeah, you have to be very specific about conditions and grading. Even the slightest mention of "stain" means I have zero interest. That said, issues from the 50s, 60s and early 70s tend not to be "abused." But you have to be very careful about buying anything from the 80s or forward, entire issues can be found glued shut.
Thankfully most titles of interest for me were purchased new at the time. But there have been a handful of incident on ebay where I had to return an issue with "very questionable staining." I wonder what some people are thinking when they sell something like that.
So with vintage magazine I tend to deal with the same reputable sellers and they know I'm only interested in "near mint" or better.
ColtSeavers
10-13-15, 17:47
I guess I'm weird, I get more turned on by a chick in a bikini or form fitting if not skin tight bathing suit or chemise than straight up nude.
I guess I'm weird, I get more turned on by a chick in a bikini or form fitting if not skin tight bathing suit or chemise than straight up nude.
Yep, there is a reason thongs, stockings, garter belts and push up bras sell. Of course sometimes a simple pair of spike heels is all that is necessary.
This thread reminds me of an old deck of cards that belonged to my father when he was in the Army in the 80's. It was half nude & full nude pin up style girls. Too bad I am missing cards in the deck and they are old and beat up. They would be some kick-ass playing cards.
Poker anyone? HA
I'm trying to relate to some of these comments and failing.
Fake ones, real ones, big ones, small ones, fake tan, no tan, tight sweater, no sweater, bikini, nude, brunette, blond, ginger…
Man, ALL of that sound frickin' fantastic to me. I have appreciated and lusted after the female form since I was just a wee lad. I don't care what she's wearing or not wearing. If she's hot she's hot. I especially like the current trend of "yoga pants". I have said thank you to more than one woman on the street who had no idea what she was being thanked for.
I guess I didn't realize that I was so much less discriminating than my peers.
Playboy not publishing nude photos? That's just stupid. I actually did read the articles from time to time, but the main purpose of looking at that magazine was to see hot naked chicks. Oh well. I haven't bought it in a very long time anyway, so this really won't have any effect on my life one way or the other.
I'm trying to relate to some of these comments and failing.
Fake ones, real ones, big ones, small ones, fake tan, no tan, tight sweater, no sweater, bikini, nude, brunette, blond, ginger…
Man, ALL of that sound frickin' fantastic to me. I have appreciated and lusted after the female form since I was just a wee lad. I don't care what she's wearing or not wearing. If she's hot she's hot. I especially like the current trend of "yoga pants". I have said thank you to more than one woman on the street who had no idea what she was being thanked for.
I guess I didn't realize that I was so much less discriminating than my peers.
Playboy not publishing nude photos? That's just stupid. I actually did read the articles from time to time, but the main purpose of looking at that magazine was to see hot naked chicks. Oh well. I haven't bought it in a very long time anyway, so this really won't have any effect on my life one way or the other.
Apparently magazine sales are way down, amazing huh. And more importantly the website did four times the traffic when they went from nude pictorials to non nude pictorials. This is a no brainer since it suddenly became a "non adult" website and was available to a larger audience.
The "thinking" is that by trying to become more like Maxim magazine, sales of the magazine will increase for the same reasons. But honestly I don't think that is going to happen. Maxim as a magazine has far more interesting content than Playboy ever had when it came to articles of interest. I also don't think there is enough "cool factor" remaining for Playboy to be a successful version of the virgin drink with no alcohol.
Kids in high school would probably get laughed at for having a neutered Playboy and no adult I know would be interested. I'm pretty much a fan of the female form, but I let all my magazine subscriptions lapse over 10 years ago.
I now just collect the very vintage stuff, especially original Betty Page content.
BETTY PAGE
She had this look like she could torture you in a German sex dungeon or back you a cake and sincerely wish to hear about your day.
In short the perfect woman
...but I let all my magazine subscriptions lapse over 10 years ago.
Same here. The only magazine I get anymore is American Rifleman from the NRA. I do like the "Armed Citizen" column.
There's a LOT of virgins in here talking about how 'grody' nude chicks are. lol
No, please... go on about how the women in Playboy don't meet your standards. ROFL
I don't want to sound coarse or blue but I like real women. With curves, hair, flaws, moles, and other humanizing things.
Real women, you know? I know TOS has a bunch of virgins but like one of the best movies of the 80s was The Sure Thing.
To this day, I've got a thing for Silvia Kristal because of Private Tutor
ETA I googled her and she's dead......that's sad
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There's a LOT of virgins in here talking about how 'grody' nude chicks are. lol
No, please... go on about how the women in Playboy don't meet your standards. ROFL
I think only one person commented about implants and such, the rest of us aren't saying we don't like completely nude females, we just appreciate a little adornment.
I don't want to sound coarse or blue but I like real women. With curves, hair, flaws, moles, and other humanizing things.
Real women, you know? I know TOS has a bunch of virgins but like one of the best movies of the 80s was The Sure Thing.
To this day, I've got a thing for Silvia Kristal because of Private Tutor
ETA I googled her and she's dead......that's sad
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Damn. I grew up watching the same movie, only it was "Private Lessons" (1981). You are possibly confusing it with "My Tutor" (1983).
Sad about Kristel, she contributed a lot to the early days of softcore cable.
Interestingly enough, you can no longer obtain an original edit copy of "Private Lessons." Reagan passed a law saying that you couldn't depict adult nudity in a scene with a minor. So when Philly get's his first look at bush, the DVD shows a big blue spot.
Of course there is no problem with naked children in a scene with adults so a nude 12 year old Brooke Shields in a scene with grown men is still available on DVD.
I think only one person commented about implants and such, the rest of us aren't saying we don't like completely nude females, we just appreciate a little adornment.
Oh, I think I get it now. How long have you known you were gay? :p
I saw Lessons and Tutor. Sorry for the mix up.
I think I still have the VHS recording somewhere. It gave many a you g lad hope at scoring with grown woman.
Censorship sucks.
Late night skinemax was a big deal back then. It was classy yet raunchy.
A Gory B movie then hardcore nudity. It was a beautiful time to be alive.
ColtSeavers
10-14-15, 01:17
Meh, it's called a challenge. They wear a mini-mini skirt with bright thong that makes cameo appearances and your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to get her out of those things immediately. Straight up immediately naked is still the goal, and still perfectly acceptable, just not quite as.....
Now, for the reality version. Wife wears workout clothing to gym, comes back home looking hot and bothered, you find some way to distract/get rid of kids, and pray you can convince her of having a quickie before the kids hunt you both down. Bonus points if you can time it just right as she's already taken off her workout clothes but has yet to hop in the shower. Failure means foreplay.... the kids finding you.... and then later on her going to bed early while you stay up for a bit, enjoying an hour of being left the hell alone to watch Rick and Morty on DVR and post random crap on a gun forum.
Moose-Knuckle
10-14-15, 02:06
There's a LOT of virgins in here talking about how 'grody' nude chicks are. lol
No, please... go on about how the women in Playboy don't meet your standards. ROFL
You joke, but the founder and CEO of Perfect 10 magazine created it due to Playboy rejecting his natural beauty wife. They rejected her do to not having implants, and her breasts are natural DDs.
Again, the girls in Playboys from the 50's to the 70's are spot on. No, I don't like fake breasts on women or fake anything so why would I pay money to see something I don't like.
As for the whole nude vs. scantly clad thing, that is a personal choice. As my wife put it; "Lingerie is pointless, it only gets in the way". There is a reason why I'm happily married. :cool:
Oh, I think I get it now. How long have you known you were gay? :p
Google Dita Von Teese. If liking that means I'm gay, well I'm gay I guess.
You joke, but the founder and CEO of Perfect 10 magazine created it due to Playboy rejecting his natural beauty wife. They rejected her do to not having implants, and her breasts are natural DDs.
Again, the girls in Playboys from the 50's to the 70's are spot on. No, I don't like fake breasts on women or fake anything so why would I pay money to see something I don't like.
As for the whole nude vs. scantly clad thing, that is a personal choice. As my wife put it; "Lingerie is pointless, it only gets in the way". There is a reason why I'm happily married. :cool:
Well, Playboy didn't reject my wife so maybe that's why I have no complaints. :cool:
Google Dita Von Teese. If liking that means I'm gay, well I'm gay I guess.
While I also find that attractive I fear a magazine with one woman in it may be boring pretty quickly.
Variety... the spice of life!
BoringGuy45
10-14-15, 13:26
The internet has made Playboy obsolete in terms of its original attraction. Artistic and glamour nudes are done by many photographers for many websites, and the number of models and actresses that do that vastly outnumbers the ones that don't. If you want something more, well, just Google or Bing it.
The internet has made Playboy obsolete in terms of its original attraction. Artistic and glamour nudes are done by many photographers for many websites, and the number of models and actresses that do that vastly outnumbers the ones that don't. If you want something more, well, just Google or Bing it.
You could say that about any magazine really. Anything in Recoil, MotorTrend, CycleWorld, HotRod, etc. can be found on the internet. I know people say "print is dead" but there's a reason why newspapers & magazines are still in business. Maybe not in the numbers they were years ago but...
I know I can't wait till that next issue of Recoil shows up in my mailbox.
While I also find that attractive I fear a magazine with one woman in it may be boring pretty quickly.
Variety... the spice of life!
We were talking about the merits of completely nude vs. lingerie, etc. I wouldn't mind a Christina Aguilera combo.
We were talking about the merits of completely nude vs. lingerie, etc. I wouldn't mind a Christina Aguilera combo.
To accurately debate the merits of nude vs lingerie on Christina Aguilera we need sample pics.
To accurately debate the merits of nude vs lingerie on Christina Aguilera we need sample pics.
Before anyone gets any ideas, there needn't be any exemplar skin, softcore, etc pics in this thread.
Actually, I kinda hope this kills Playboy.
It was a rite of passage to acquire a Playboy. To see what girls, or women rather, really looked like. At first it's kinda gross, but different. An arcane new continent, almost alien. Then you got more curious about girls and wanted to know more. Then you started being nicer to them instead of being mean.
It's like your dad taking you shooting for the first time or, even if he wasn't a drinker, giving you a first sip of beer or letting you try a cigarette. Letting you swear a little without a swat on the backside.
For the most part you were just curious and you got taught life lessons. Things you learn fishing, shooting, or simply a long truck drive.
And turning it into Maxim or FHM or some other metrosexual magazine is purpose defeating.
Because emasculated men are easier to control. But a real man
...a real man does cry. Over the death of a beloved comrade, over the health of his child, or because the world broke him. He's lost it all. But then he regains himself and soldiers on.
And yes, men ogle women. Not because they are objects but because they are something they want. To feel whole or complete. Or just admire.
The way we admire our talented and gifted. Our strong and our intelligent.
But.....a magazine of Daily Worker talking points is just such an effing waste of time.
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