bolt gun that has a major problem

[ttf909]

savage axis 308 , shot ok for a super cheap rifle.
had barrel cut to 16.25 and threaded.
installed suppressor and had a terrible time getting it on paper. ran out of time at range.
went back to range and got a group with the gun without suppressor ,installed suppressor and it shoots 6 foot to the right.

yhm says barrel, silencershop says barrel. machine shop does not know yet but told me the barrel and bore were not concentric to begin with. worst part is the baffle strikes so the can is in route back to yhm.

[T2C]

If a gunsmith measures a bore and determines it is not concentric with the barrel, the barrel is not suitable for attachments or long range shooting. Without having access to a lot of standard barrels to sort through, getting one that will work well is a crapshoot.

[Hwikek]

savage axis 308 , shot ok for a super cheap rifle.
had barrel cut to 16.25 and threaded.
installed suppressor and had a terrible time getting it on paper. ran out of time at range.
went back to range and got a group with the gun without suppressor ,installed suppressor and it shoots 6 foot to the right.

yhm says barrel, silencershop says barrel. machine shop does not know yet but told me the barrel and bore were not concentric to begin with. worst part is the baffle strikes so the can is in route back to yhm.

Who cut your barrel, I'd ask them for a refund.

[Pilgrim]

I had a Savage Scout with a bad barrel when they first came out, you would be lucky to get 4 MOA, and the groups were too low to get a zero. A designer for Savage was shooting on the bench beside me, and verified that the factory gave me a dud barrel. Traded it for a Savage M10 with a 20" heavy barrel, and it's the most accurate rifle I've ever owned.

Can you simply swap out barrels on the Axis like you can on the other Savage models?

[renegade99]

If the barrel was cut and threaded properly even thought the bore was not concentric with the OD of the barrel the can should be in alignment with the bore even if it is not in alignment with exterior of the barrel. If how ever the barrel was cut and then threaded with a die instead of between centers the threads could very easily be at an angle to the bore causing baffle strikes. If that is the case the person that threaded the barrel is not competent to do the job, and owes you a new barrel, or at least a refund of costs including having a good gunsmith redo the job properly.

[daddyusmaximus]

Wanting to do this to my Axis. Never thought a modern rifle would have the bore not centered. A Mosin yeah, but a new Savage? Something to check first.

[Turnkey11]

No bore is perfectly centered, which is why Adco aligns the threads off of the bore, not the outside of the barrel.

[waveslayer]

I would venture to say it was the guy threading your barrel after he cut it. if it's off just a tad then you get baffle strikes. get your money back. I doubt he will buy you a new barrel. had this happen too last year. luckily the baffle strike was just a skid mark

[ace4059]

The barrel is not threaded correctly. Sounds like the machine shop threaded it off the OD of the barrel. Send it to someone that knows what they are doing.

I bought a savage that was threaded from the factory and the threads were off giving me baffel strikes. Savage would not rethread it and had sorry costumer service. I ended up having a professional thread my barrel and the gun now shoots great. The thread is posted on m4 if you want to read about it. Sadly I will not buy another savage firearm due to their customer service.

[ttf909]

Savage confirmed the barrel was off and are replacing with new barrel. The guy that threaded it offered to thread the new barrel at no charge. Still have to send the can back to yhm for rebuild.
So here's the short list of my last few manufacturers that have terrible quality control :savage , remington , h and r , mossberg . That does not leave many options for purchasing a workable firearm.

[williejc]

My guess is that among rifle manufacturers few if any c.s. workers ever heard of "threads being off", and when their supervisors learned that the problem pertained to suppressor baffle strikes, then they quickly lost interest. About Mossberg quality control, I have had to put up with defective new shotguns and then fix them myself after convincing customer service to send me the parts. For this reason, I would never buy a Mossberg center fire rifle, which I could not fix.

[elephantrider]

Savage confirmed the barrel was off and are replacing with new barrel. The guy that threaded it offered to thread the new barrel at no charge. Still have to send the can back to yhm for rebuild.
So here's the short list of my last few manufacturers that have terrible quality control :savage , remington , h and r , mossberg . That does not leave many options for purchasing a workable firearm.

DO NOT let the same shop/guy thread the new barrel. If he did not know, or care enough to do it correctly the first time, then he likely does not have the skill/knowledge/tooling to get it done correctly at all. The bore being not concentric to the barrel O.D. should not have been a problem in the first place. Even the BEST, and most consistently manufactured barrels will be off center at least a small amount. Lower quality barrels will be off significantly, but are still workable. Gunsmiths that do muzzle threading correctly know this, and do NOT use the O.D. of the barrel as a reference point for chambering, crowning, or threading. Some smiths might ask and charge more for threads that are for suppressors, but I feel that this guy owes you whatever you paid him for the first go round, plus the cost of any additional parts and hassle.

[Lost River]

"Customizing" a Savage Axis is the epitome of putting lipstick on a pig. It would be hard to find a more cheaply made POS, unless you went with a Rem 783.

This makes absolutely NO sense to me. You can buy a substantially higher quality rifle that is used for close to the same money, if budget is an issue. That said, if I am going through hassle and expense of paying someone to thread a barrel, buy an NFA item, deal with tax stamps, etc, I certainly would spend a few more dollars on the base platform. There are racks full of old Rem 700s, Mausers, Ruger 77s, various Winchesters, etc, in most used gun stores.

I would suggest using the Axis as a tomato stake and grabbing an old 700, and then having a shop experienced with cutting and threading barrels do the work. Personally, my .30 can is attached to a T3 Varmint .308 that was properly cut to 20"s.

There are times and places to go cheap. Center fire suppressor hosts are not one of those (in my opinion).

[williejc]

I recently bought two Axis rifles, .223 and .308, and agree with Lost that there are indeed more higher class rifles for class 3 doings. My purchases were mission specific. The .223 will be used for shooting coyotes and hogs at cow pasture distance and plinking. The .308 will be a cast bullet rifle. After tinkering with barrel and bullet, I hope to be putting 170-200 grain lead slugs in the same hole at 50 yards and will accept 2inch groups at 100. That's the best that I can shoot these days. I know not to waste money on these little pigs, each of which wears a fine vintage scope worth more than the rifle. The rifles cost $207 each after rebate. They are bad ugly and have zero cool and no soul like that found in a classic firearm. If I'm able to get them to shoot well, I will be content. If not, I will curse them and regret wasting my money.