View Full Version : Any Section 8/Vandalism horror stories?
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 03:53
Anyone have any?
Here is mine
Long story short my friend asked for my help doing some work on a rental property he own. I figured 100$, dinner and a movie just to get some exercise, hang out with my friend so I figured "hey why not, what is the worse that it could be?". Well I was about to learn the inhumanity of the section 8er first hand.
He tells me he got rid of some section 8ers and total me it would be kind of "weird", he was understating it to say the least.
We walk up to the 2nd story of this apartment and I can smell just the worse smell ever...I walk in the door and I am met with pure horror. This "family" had stolen the washer, dryer, dishwasher out of the apartment (how they got them down and out without anyone seeing anything is beyond me), they had smashed all the mirrors/lightbulbs in the apartment, smashed the toilets with baseball bats.
What made it insane was the fact they bashed holes in the walls, and poured in liquefied poop into the walls.
I could not believe what I was seeing, the only thing I have seen this messed up was when some kid at a house party in high school took a massive shit in the bathroom, put it into a cup (mixed with urine) and put into the Microwave in the kitten (set for 90 mins). It was a model that the door automatically opened after the timer went off so the smell cleared out the house, totally killed the party.
I mean this is insane but then after thought to myself after about 5 min "This is bad, but their is even worse".
So I have to ask do you guys have any stories about Section 8ers or Vandalism?
Outlander Systems
11-16-15, 05:03
A buddy of mine and his wife tried to talk us into buying the house across the street from them awhile back...
Long and short, the house had been rented by...section 8rs. The couple figured the owner would unload it for cheap, so we went to check it out...holy hell. The walls in the house were painted black, the fixtures were either destroyed or gone, there was, and I shit you not, a human-shaped hole in the wall, like a cartoon or the Kool-Aide man paid a visit. It was absolutely trashed.
The owner was big time upside-down on the mortgage and the asking price was at or above other homes in the neighborhood. Needless to say, we passed on it.
I have the unfortunate situation of living near an entire neighborhood of S8'ers.
It's an absolute hellhole. Last time I counted there were 10 grocery baskets scattered about the place, with one being used as a community trash can. A good bit of the windows have boards over them, and high-end luxury cars make house calls often, if you catch my drift.
We own rural acreage we intend to build on next year, and I can not tell you how much I want out of the ghetto. I've been fortunate in general, regarding crime, other than the time some shitbird meth-head pulled a knife on me.
The area wasn't utopian, but it has gotten progressively worse since the economic unraveling began in '08-'09. For some reason, around '11-'12 it was like someone opened the scumbag flood gates around my part of town...
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 05:25
A buddy of mine and his wife tried to talk us into buying the house across the street from them awhile back...
Long and short, the house had been rented by...section 8rs. The couple figured the owner would unload it for cheap, so we went to check it out...holy hell. The walls in the house were painted black, the fixtures were either destroyed or gone, there was, and I shit you not, a human-shaped hole in the wall, like a cartoon or the Kool-Aide man paid a visit. It was absolutely trashed.
The owner was big time upside-down on the mortgage and the asking price was at or above other homes in the neighborhood. Needless to say, we passed on it.
I have the unfortunate situation of living near an entire neighborhood of S8'ers.
It's an absolute hellhole. Last time I counted there were 10 grocery baskets scattered about the place, with one being used as a community trash can. A good bit of the windows have boards over them, and high-end luxury cars make house calls often, if you catch my drift.
We own rural acreage we intend to build on next year, and I can not tell you how much I want out of the ghetto. I've been fortunate in general, regarding crime, other than the time some shitbird meth-head pulled a knife on me.
The area wasn't utopian, but it has gotten progressively worse since the economic unraveling began in '08-'09. For some reason, around '11-'12 it was like someone opened the scumbag flood gates around my part of town...
This is why I oppose Section 8 Housing, Welfare offices in middle class areas, bussing etc. I am a big fan of NIMBY. If these leftist self hating scum bags want these programs so much they can pay for them and deal with them.
Yeah for about a year and half I was one of only 3 homes on the block that had people living in it, miss those days.
The philosopher Sartre once said 'hell is other people'. He was right.
Outlander Systems
11-16-15, 05:35
I grew up in the boonies, so, needless to say, I am definitely living Sartre's axiom.
I can't get out to the country fast enough. After discussing the commute/vs living around assholes, we'll suck it up and commute.
Several of my wife's coworkers live in a worse area than us, and have had to contend with burglaries, car thefts, etc.
This is why I oppose Section 8 Housing, Welfare offices in middle class areas, bussing etc. I am a big fan of NIMBY. If these leftist self hating scum bags want these programs so much they can pay for them and deal with them.
Yeah for about a year and half I was one of only 3 homes on the block that had people living in it, miss those days.
The philosopher Sartre once said 'hell is other people'. He was right.
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 06:00
I grew up in the boonies, so, needless to say, I am definitely living Sartre's axiom.
I can't get out to the country fast enough. After discussing the commute/vs living around assholes, we'll suck it up and commute.
Several of my wife's coworkers live in a worse area than us, and have had to contend with burglaries, car thefts, etc.
Remember its never a bad thing to be isolated from morons, if this how they act now with the lights on, the trucks running, the stores stocked, the EBT cards loaded, and all the other goodies available and "free" think of how they will react when the music stops?
Are they planning on moving out?
Could be worse, people who have container homes are having them stolen.
So anymore stories?
Dist. Expert 26
11-16-15, 07:12
I have one to the contrary.
A friend of mine lived in Pontiac, Mi near one of the old GM plants that shut down. His parents bought the house when the plant was still operational and the area was nice. Since it closed, it's about as ghetto as you can get. I've seen nicer places in third world countries.
Through a combination of physical violence, threats and the habit of shooting large caliber revolvers in his backyard my buddy was able to live without fear. The neighbors wouldn't even walk on the sidewalk in front of his house. He left his truck unlocked. Everyone in the neighborhood knew he wasn't the guy to mess with.
Whiskey_Bravo
11-16-15, 07:41
I have one to the contrary.
A friend of mine lived in Pontiac, Mi near one of the old GM plants that shut down. His parents bought the house when the plant was still operational and the area was nice. Since it closed, it's about as ghetto as you can get. I've seen nicer places in third world countries.
Through a combination of physical violence, threats and the habit of shooting large caliber revolvers in his backyard my buddy was able to live without fear. The neighbors wouldn't even walk on the sidewalk in front of his house. He left his truck unlocked. Everyone in the neighborhood knew he wasn't the guy to mess with.
Good on him. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. All though I am pretty sure I would just abandon that shit hole and find a new place to live.
Outlander Systems
11-16-15, 09:45
Paging Firefly...
I'm pretty sure his entire career/beat is Section 8...
KalashniKEV
11-16-15, 10:09
Ughhh... I thought I blocked it all out.
My grandmother is a "Church Lady" and is always bringing in charity cases for her rental property.
One particular set of dirtbags moved out when I was about 13 and it was discovered that they had mostly destroyed the place.
We basically stripped the entire house to the external walls and rebuilt it. A good learning experience for me in working with my hands, but oh my ****ing god... the horror.
I don't even know how you can just so thoroughly... corrupt a place. I mean... all surfaces in the house were sticky and gross... how do you do that? Every single square centimeter was contaminated.
I remember finding panties stuffed all over the house in weird places (no idea what that was about), nudie magazines, sex toys, crack pipes hidden behind the baseboard, and more in a hole punched in the wall behind a bed...
They left TONS of prescription bottles with probably thousands of total assorted pills.
One funny thing too I remember was that there was loose change flung everywhere. All over the basement floor, in drawers, under the bed... I mean like, more than a five gallon bucket of loose change that all had to be collected from everywhere.
Perhaps the funniest part of the whole story- when we were done, the overhauled house was actually nicer than the places we all lived in. The next tenant was a super clean looking family, the polar opposite of the previous. None of us really inquired about their "story..." until the man of the house left to start his prison term for fraud, embezzlement, conspiracy, etc.
They took great care of the property though, so White Collar Criminals, FTW!
Straight Shooter
11-16-15, 10:12
ONE of the "after the SHTF" actions people need to take..is to BURN DOWN every single Section 8 housing complex's they can...or to make them utterly unlivable somehow. When you quit feeding and housing roaches, and put them out into the light, they go.....away.
This guys section 8 horror story is pretty sad and not terribly uncommon. I feel horrible for him and thank him for putting it out there, on video, so others can learn.
https://youtu.be/Puc1CLwWNms
I have rentals. Nice, suburban townhome rentals in private communities with tons of ammenities. I would sell them or leave them vacant before I ever put a section 8 tenant in them.
Its just not worth it.
Outlander threw up the bat signal. Can't resist.
There was this one squat house that was eventually condemned. It was pretty much a go to spot for anybody to lay up or get high.
At some point it was a pretty, 1920s era house. It was a nice size and if the scourge hadn't taken over decades ago; it would've been nice. Well...people were shitting in the closets as the toilet had been stolen long ago. There were old porn mags torn up and laying about. Stained. Know those little roses in those small glass bulbs you get at the ghetto mart? They were all littered about, burned. They had spraypainted little tags of pitch forks and six point stars.
At least twice, we'd found a corpse, but it normally stunk so bad that it wasn't noticeable. I think the grodiest thing I ever saw there were two of the oldest, ugliest homeless black couple screwing in an old sleeping bag. Like they were 50 and looked 70. Toothless and one had visible lesioning indicative of, well, something I didn't want.
I just said "Y'all just need to go". The neighbors weren't exactly upper crust, but were working class. Constant complaints of hang arounds and drug use. So it was a good idea to toss on a windbreaker and gloves before even going in. No amount of arrests or presence made a dent. Eventually, the deed owner was contacted but had died. At one point it was a Lawyers house but the last owner was an elderly man who had tried renting it, then got alzheimers and died in a rest home.
So they condemned it and people were STILL squatting in there. When it finally got leveled, folks had a barbecue and were trying to give us plates.
Then the Rescue Mission got SWARMED with an influx of more gutter trash. So they just laid their heads on the sidewalk of the mission.
It was one of the nastier things I seen (and smelled). Seriously, that's why folks carried aerosol and chain smoked to get it off.
Not EVEN a raunchy trailer was that bad. I mean when the cockroaches don't want to be there, that's bad.
It's sad because before it got a taste of diversity, it was a beautiful home. There are a lot of antebellum or antebellum inspired homes in Georgia's larger cities that are now plagued or FUBAR.
Then you see houses that look pretty during the day then you see the bars on the windows.
Good times
Outlander Systems
11-16-15, 11:40
Damn, homie.
That makes me wish the Red Dog Unit would come back.
I think you win the the thread. Close 2nd for KalashniKEV.
The snuggle bunnies...that's just lovely.
Outlander threw up the bat signal. Can't resist.
There was this one squat house that was eventually condemned. It was pretty much a go to spot for anybody to lay up or get high.
At some point it was a pretty, 1920s era house. It was a nice size and if the scourge hadn't taken over decades ago; it would've been nice. Well...people were shitting in the closets as the toilet had been stolen long ago. There were old porn mags torn up and laying about. Stained. Know those little roses in those small glass bulbs you get at the ghetto mart? They were all littered about, burned. They had spraypainted little tags of pitch forks and six point stars.
At least twice, we'd found a corpse, but it normally stunk so bad that it wasn't noticeable. I think the grodiest thing I ever saw there were two of the oldest, ugliest homeless black couple screwing in an old sleeping bag. Like they were 50 and looked 70. Toothless and one had visible lesioning indicative of, well, something I didn't want.
I just said "Y'all just need to go". The neighbors weren't exactly upper crust, but were working class. Constant complaints of hang arounds and drug use. So it was a good idea to toss on a windbreaker and gloves before even going in. No amount of arrests or presence made a dent. Eventually, the deed owner was contacted but had died. At one point it was a Lawyers house but the last owner was an elderly man who had tried renting it, then got alzheimers and died in a rest home.
So they condemned it and people were STILL squatting in there. When it finally got leveled, folks had a barbecue and were trying to give us plates.
Then the Rescue Mission got SWARMED with an influx of more gutter trash. So they just laid their heads on the sidewalk of the mission.
It was one of the nastier things I seen (and smelled). Seriously, that's why folks carried aerosol and chain smoked to get it off.
Not EVEN a raunchy trailer was that bad. I mean when the cockroaches don't want to be there, that's bad.
It's sad because before it got a taste of diversity, it was a beautiful home. There are a lot of antebellum or antebellum inspired homes in Georgia's larger cities that are now plagued or FUBAR.
Then you see houses that look pretty during the day then you see the bars on the windows.
Good times
Outlander Systems
11-16-15, 11:40
Damn, homie.
That makes me wish the Red Dog Unit would come back.
I think you win the the thread. Close 2nd for KalashniKEV.
The snuggle bunnies...that's just lovely.
Outlander threw up the bat signal. Can't resist.
There was this one squat house that was eventually condemned. It was pretty much a go to spot for anybody to lay up or get high.
At some point it was a pretty, 1920s era house. It was a nice size and if the scourge hadn't taken over decades ago; it would've been nice. Well...people were shitting in the closets as the toilet had been stolen long ago. There were old porn mags torn up and laying about. Stained. Know those little roses in those small glass bulbs you get at the ghetto mart? They were all littered about, burned. They had spraypainted little tags of pitch forks and six point stars.
At least twice, we'd found a corpse, but it normally stunk so bad that it wasn't noticeable. I think the grodiest thing I ever saw there were two of the oldest, ugliest homeless black couple screwing in an old sleeping bag. Like they were 50 and looked 70. Toothless and one had visible lesioning indicative of, well, something I didn't want.
I just said "Y'all just need to go". The neighbors weren't exactly upper crust, but were working class. Constant complaints of hang arounds and drug use. So it was a good idea to toss on a windbreaker and gloves before even going in. No amount of arrests or presence made a dent. Eventually, the deed owner was contacted but had died. At one point it was a Lawyers house but the last owner was an elderly man who had tried renting it, then got alzheimers and died in a rest home.
So they condemned it and people were STILL squatting in there. When it finally got leveled, folks had a barbecue and were trying to give us plates.
Then the Rescue Mission got SWARMED with an influx of more gutter trash. So they just laid their heads on the sidewalk of the mission.
It was one of the nastier things I seen (and smelled). Seriously, that's why folks carried aerosol and chain smoked to get it off.
Not EVEN a raunchy trailer was that bad. I mean when the cockroaches don't want to be there, that's bad.
It's sad because before it got a taste of diversity, it was a beautiful home. There are a lot of antebellum or antebellum inspired homes in Georgia's larger cities that are now plagued or FUBAR.
Then you see houses that look pretty during the day then you see the bars on the windows.
Good times
After seeing the nasty shit left behind in some of my dads rentals, I'm convinced some people just don't like cleaning and rent a place till it's too nasty to stand then they move. And these are normal renters. My dad doesn't do Section 8.
I remember one that was so infested with roaches and other vermin that they had to tear out the kitchen cabinets and some of the walls to fumigate and eliminate them.
I've seen fridges tossed because their power was cut off and they just let it sit for a month.
I've even seen dishwashers that couldn't be salvaged because there was so much filth growing in them.
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 12:31
I have one to the contrary.
A friend of mine lived in Pontiac, Mi near one of the old GM plants that shut down. His parents bought the house when the plant was still operational and the area was nice. Since it closed, it's about as ghetto as you can get. I've seen nicer places in third world countries.
Through a combination of physical violence, threats and the habit of shooting large caliber revolvers in his backyard my buddy was able to live without fear. The neighbors wouldn't even walk on the sidewalk in front of his house. He left his truck unlocked. Everyone in the neighborhood knew he wasn't the guy to mess with.
Kickass!
Averageman
11-16-15, 12:38
This guys section 8 horror story is pretty sad and not terribly uncommon. I feel horrible for him and thank him for putting it out there, on video, so others can learn.
https://youtu.be/Puc1CLwWNms
I have rentals. Nice, suburban townhome rentals in private communities with tons of ammenities. I would sell them or leave them vacant before I ever put a section 8 tenant in them.
Its just not worth it.
That should be criminal. Heartbreaking shit right there.
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 12:45
ONE of the "after the SHTF" actions people need to take..is to BURN DOWN every single Section 8 housing complex's they can...or to make them utterly unlivable somehow. When you quit feeding and housing roaches, and put them out into the light, they go.....away.
I once thought such things were a bad thing...Now, not so much.
You can make them into sewage filled portals to hell and they will still live in them.
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 12:47
This guys section 8 horror story is pretty sad and not terribly uncommon. I feel horrible for him and thank him for putting it out there, on video, so others can learn.
https://youtu.be/Puc1CLwWNms
I have rentals. Nice, suburban townhome rentals in private communities with tons of ammenities. I would sell them or leave them vacant before I ever put a section 8 tenant in them.
Its just not worth it.
We now have AirBnB, or or other subleting sites, or you can pick section 8ers who are veterans/old people. Why do people take in people most likely to cause trouble?
When was the last time you heard of veterans destroying a nice home or old people pouring poop into the walls.
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 12:53
Outlander threw up the bat signal. Can't resist.
There was this one squat house that was eventually condemned. It was pretty much a go to spot for anybody to lay up or get high.
At some point it was a pretty, 1920s era house. It was a nice size and if the scourge hadn't taken over decades ago; it would've been nice. Well...people were shitting in the closets as the toilet had been stolen long ago. There were old porn mags torn up and laying about. Stained. Know those little roses in those small glass bulbs you get at the ghetto mart? They were all littered about, burned. They had spraypainted little tags of pitch forks and six point stars.
At least twice, we'd found a corpse, but it normally stunk so bad that it wasn't noticeable. I think the grodiest thing I ever saw there were two of the oldest, ugliest homeless black couple screwing in an old sleeping bag. Like they were 50 and looked 70. Toothless and one had visible lesioning indicative of, well, something I didn't want.
I just said "Y'all just need to go". The neighbors weren't exactly upper crust, but were working class. Constant complaints of hang arounds and drug use. So it was a good idea to toss on a windbreaker and gloves before even going in. No amount of arrests or presence made a dent. Eventually, the deed owner was contacted but had died. At one point it was a Lawyers house but the last owner was an elderly man who had tried renting it, then got alzheimers and died in a rest home.
So they condemned it and people were STILL squatting in there. When it finally got leveled, folks had a barbecue and were trying to give us plates.
Then the Rescue Mission got SWARMED with an influx of more gutter trash. So they just laid their heads on the sidewalk of the mission.
It was one of the nastier things I seen (and smelled). Seriously, that's why folks carried aerosol and chain smoked to get it off.
Not EVEN a raunchy trailer was that bad. I mean when the cockroaches don't want to be there, that's bad.
It's sad because before it got a taste of diversity, it was a beautiful home. There are a lot of antebellum or antebellum inspired homes in Georgia's larger cities that are now plagued or FUBAR.
Then you see houses that look pretty during the day then you see the bars on the windows.
Good times
I know you have more stories, I have to hear them.
Did the home burn down? I hope it did..
I have seen more bathtubs literally full of shit than I can count. One place there were hundreds of full 40oz bottles literally placed anywhere you could set one. One room in particular seemed to be set up as a shrine of sorts. It was pretty quickly realized however, that beer was not the liquid in the bottles, the by-product was what filled them.
Had a partner fall through the stairs in one place, luckily he was not seriously injured and where he landed was not overly contaminated. Not to one up Firefly, but we went into one place looking for two crack whores who had just pulled a John robbery. We caught them "celebrating" their success. I think we probably could have shot them under the "infliction of serious mental harm/suffering" standard. Caught a few male on males as well. As standard practice we used to mace the "beds" in abandoned properties.
Never open the refrigerator. Never.
Animal carcasses, particularly in basements where they would lock them up and leave. Sometimes it literally would just be a dampish pile of fur and bone.
Found a crackhead stuck in the ventilation one time. He was in a unit he was not supposed to be in when we pulled up, so he tried hiding by sliding into the furnace ducting through one of the floor grates. He pulled the grate back over him, and I admit, we missed him hiding there. Had to go back a couple hours later when people heard screams from the place. Seems he got stuck. Fire had to take apart the ducting from the basement to get him out.
SWAT hit a place on a narcotics warrant, found a body wrapped up in plastic in the attic over one of the kid's rooms. Classy.
Here is to all my fellow men who stomp their feet on the way out and wish they could burn their clothing daily....
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 13:05
I have seen more bathtubs literally full of shit than I can count. One place there were hundreds of full 40oz bottles literally placed anywhere you could set one. One room in particular seemed to be set up as a shrine of sorts. It was pretty quickly realized however, that beer was not the liquid in the bottles, the by-product was what filled them.
Had a partner fall through the stairs in one place, luckily he was not seriously injured and where he landed was not overly contaminated. Not to one up Firefly, but we went into one place looking for two crack whores who had just pulled a John robbery. We caught them "celebrating" their success. I think we probably could have shot them under the "infliction of serious mental harm/suffering" standard. Caught a few male on males as well. As standard practice we used to mace the "beds" in abandoned properties.
Never open the refrigerator. Never.
Animal carcasses, particularly in basements where they would lock them up and leave. Sometimes it literally would just be a dampish pile of fur and bone.
Found a crackhead stuck in the ventilation one time. He was in a unit he was not supposed to be in when we pulled up, so he tried hiding by sliding into the furnace ducting through one of the floor grates. He pulled the grate back over him, and I admit, we missed him hiding there. Had to go back a couple hours later when people heard screams from the place. Seems he got stuck. Fire had to take apart the ducting from the basement to get him out.
SWAT hit a place on a narcotics warrant, found a body wrapped up in plastic in the attic over one of the kid's rooms. Classy.
Here is to all my fellow men who stomp their feet on the way out and wish they could burn their clothing daily....
Did the solve the case?
Were they filled to the brim with shit?
Never open the Microwave either..
Here is to all my fellow men who stomp their feet on the way out and wish they could burn their clothing daily....
YUP. Anything with blood gets torched. Plus a park bathroom after dark can be a nasty place. I don't know what's worse. 6 black dudes and one fat white chick pillaring out or two reasonably decent, fit guys begging not to let their wives find out.
City workers who do park maintenance, their favorite Christmas present is good whiskey for a reason.
Crackheads are always good for a laugh if you're a bit morbid and don't have to touch them.
I keep bleach, milkjugs of water, febreze, and a lot of hand sanitizer for a reason.
Also PDSgt, your whore stories, man, people actually pay for that to NOT use a rubber. And I would pay top dollar for that lot to leave the country. And some of the johns are married and have good looking women and paying for strange that is literally at that one CDC level where they put on spaceman suits. Ugh.
I have one to the contrary.
A friend of mine lived in Pontiac, Mi near one of the old GM plants that shut down. His parents bought the house when the plant was still operational and the area was nice. Since it closed, it's about as ghetto as you can get. I've seen nicer places in third world countries.
Through a combination of physical violence, threats and the habit of shooting large caliber revolvers in his backyard my buddy was able to live without fear. The neighbors wouldn't even walk on the sidewalk in front of his house. He left his truck unlocked. Everyone in the neighborhood knew he wasn't the guy to mess with.
You can only keep that up for so long. Sooner or later you will be deemed the bad guy and the police will come for you.
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 14:16
YUP. Anything with blood gets torched. Plus a park bathroom after dark can be a nasty place. I don't know what's worse. 6 black dudes and one fat white chick pillaring out or two reasonably decent, fit guys begging not to let their wives find out.
City workers who do park maintenance, their favorite Christmas present is good whiskey for a reason.
Crackheads are always good for a laugh if you're a bit morbid and don't have to touch them.
I keep bleach, milkjugs of water, febreze, and a lot of hand sanitizer for a reason.
Also PDSgt, your whore stories, man, people actually pay for that to NOT use a rubber. And I would pay top dollar for that lot to leave the country. And some of the johns are married and have good looking women and paying for strange that is literally at that one CDC level where they put on spaceman suits. Ugh.
Any more stories? I know you have them.
I would pay to have them run through a minefield.
Crackhead chases laser like a cat
(http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bf8_1271438357)
ONE of the "after the SHTF" actions people need to take..is to BURN DOWN every single Section 8 housing complex's they can...or to make them utterly unlivable somehow. When you quit feeding and housing roaches, and put them out into the light, they go.....away.
I don't think you understand Section 8 today.
It is no longer dedicated housing but a benefit. The benefit can be as high as $1,600 a month. A section 8 family can move in next to you if the rent is $1,600 a month or less.
Moose-Knuckle
11-16-15, 15:15
For some reason, around '11-'12 it was like someone opened the scumbag flood gates around my part of town...
That was about the time Barry from Honolulu's War on Suburbia got under way and the Section 8er's were "move'n on up" to the suburbs.
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 15:22
That was about the time Barry from Honolulu's War on Suburbia got under way and the Section 8er's were "move'n on up" to the suburbs.
Its not fair they have to live around "racist, gun owning whites" we need to send them a great place, like San Francisco, Martha Vineyard, Manhattan, and why not the White House?
Goes to show you leftist love "diversity" as long as they do not have to deal with, live with it, work around or have to send their kids to "those schools and around those people" but the moment you want the same thing they some how act like we are bad people.
Straight Shooter
11-16-15, 15:51
I don't think you understand Section 8 today.
It is no longer dedicated housing but a benefit. The benefit can be as high as $1,600 a month. A section 8 family can move in next to you if the rent is $1,600 a month or less.
Im SURE I don't understand it. NEVER HAVE. And I do know what you mean. But..there are dedicated places and buildings and "hoods" that are entirely or mostly Section 8..and that's what Im talking about.
Moose-Knuckle
11-16-15, 16:01
ONE of the "after the SHTF" actions people need to take..is to BURN DOWN every single Section 8 housing complex's they can...or to make them utterly unlivable somehow. When you quit feeding and housing roaches, and put them out into the light, they go.....away.
Orion road flares have multiple uses, and you can fit a bunch of them in a .30 cal USGI can.
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 16:08
Im SURE I don't understand it. NEVER HAVE. And I do know what you mean. But..there are dedicated places and buildings and "hoods" that are entirely or mostly Section 8..and that's what Im talking about.
Yeah, new housing laws from HUB are coming and soon these hoods/projects will be coming to your AO. Factor in the open border/mass immigration and things will look very "Brazil" here.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s189/Boru_album/a-slum-beside-a-suburb-Natacha-PisarenkoAP-640x480_zpsassthagb.jpg
The bare strip of ground between the slum and the nice houses is "interesting". My first though was, did they mine it?
La Caval slum and a gated suburban community in the suburbs of Buenos Aires. Photograph: Natacha Pisarenko/AP
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 16:10
Orion road flares have multiple uses, and you can fit a bunch of them in a .30 cal USGI can.
Drones with "things" on them, BOMBS AWAY!
Those flares are great with Potato guns, did some control burns, totally awesome.
Straight Shooter
11-16-15, 16:14
Orion road flares have multiple uses, and you can fit a bunch of them in a .30 cal USGI can.
I APPRECIATE that knowledge, sir. Knowledge is good.
Im SURE I don't understand it. NEVER HAVE. And I do know what you mean. But..there are dedicated places and buildings and "hoods" that are entirely or mostly Section 8..and that's what Im talking about.
Not anymore. That was considered racially biased, same as actual food stamps. Now, they get a housing allowance and can rent from any property they can afford. I have friends who are doctors and lawyers with Section 8 "renters" next door. Keep in mind I couldn't afford to live in these neighborhoods, but they can due to the number of kids they have and the amount of the benefit they receive.
The new model is to disperse Section 8 families to as many communities as possible. The belief is that they are getting them away from the criminal elements normally associated with Section 8. They don't seem to understand they are simply redistributing those "criminal elements" to every neighborhood.
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 17:21
Not anymore. That was considered racially biased, same as actual food stamps. Now, they get a housing allowance and can rent from any property they can afford. I have friends who are doctors and lawyers with Section 8 "renters" next door. Keep in mind I couldn't afford to live in these neighborhoods, but they can due to the number of kids they have and the amount of the benefit they receive.
The new model is to disperse Section 8 families to as many communities as possible. The belief is that they are getting them away from the criminal elements normally associated with Section 8. They don't seem to understand they are simply redistributing those "criminal elements" to every neighborhood.
Its the "magic dirty theory".
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"The core idea is that one’s physical surroundings—the bricks and mortar of the building you’re in, or the actual dirt you are standing on—emit invisible vapors that can change your personality, behavior, and intelligence."
Nothing more then 21st Century "Spontaneous Generation"
This will definitely will be pushing communities to resemble like urban areas, where Democrats typically have more political support
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/12/obama-administration-seeks-to-diversify-wealthier-communities-through-hud-provision/#ixzz3rhR9VPTk
Turn red and purple into blue areas.
These parasitic traitors never stop unless they stopped.
This is like school. You don't put a dumbass in with smart kids. It doesn't bring him up, it only drags everyone else down or makes them not want to show up.
Real talk. You can have a quiet, peaceful neighborhood that sees no police activity. Then some bottom feeders pop in and as if by Elfin Magic, thefts start happening, noise complaints start happening, and people complain of ghetto blasting cars driving by at 0300 while they are trying to sleep so they can go to work. Then the flight starts happening. Because nobody wants to live next to blasting stereos, loud profanity, barking pit bulls, and a litter of kids "visiting" you when you aren't home.
Some people sit down with their woman and have a well reasoned discussion or couples therapy.
And some people bust the door open screaming "What Ho you f--king now, you trifling bastard" and receive the riposte if "Bitch you better SHUT yo GOT DAYUM MOUTH".
Then the Ns and MFs start being hurled back and forth in front of God and everybody.
Nobody wants to raise a family around shenanigans like that
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 18:41
This is like school. You don't put a dumbass in with smart kids. It doesn't bring him up, it only drags everyone else down or makes them not want to show up.
Real talk. You can have a quiet, peaceful neighborhood that sees no police activity. Then some bottom feeders pop in and as if by Elfin Magic, thefts start happening, noise complaints start happening, and people complain of ghetto blasting cars driving by at 0300 while they are trying to sleep so they can go to work. Then the flight starts happening. Because nobody wants to live next to blasting stereos, loud profanity, barking pit bulls, and a litter of kids "visiting" you when you aren't home.
Some people sit down with their woman and have a well reasoned discussion or couples therapy.
And some people bust the door open screaming "What Ho you f--king now, you trifling bastard" and receive the riposte if "Bitch you better SHUT yo GOT DAYUM MOUTH".
Then the Ns and MFs start being hurled back and forth in front of God and everybody.
Nobody wants to raise a family around shenanigans like that
Nobody wants to pay to import shenanigans like to live around them either.
End Section 8, get rid of HUD. I am out of ****s to give.
KalashniKEV
11-16-15, 19:25
The new model is to disperse Section 8 families to as many communities as possible.
This is what they're doing in Arlington, and it's killing me.
I bought a brand new condo a few years back and since then the neighborhood has gone straight down the tubes.
The "Winter Homeless Shelter" was always a drain on quality of life, and now they just replaced it with a year round multi story Bum Mansion right up the block from me. We became completely invaded by DCs homeless schizophrenic drug users overnight... like somebody flipped a switch.
Then they opened a halfway house on the other side of me.
The "Affordable" housing folks are worse because they actually feel entitled to live where they do. The argument is made that they must be near a Metro stop for mass transit reasons- so they end up being given some of the most expensive real estate in the United States of America!
The adult children who live and vote here are really just transients passing through. They play on "Social Sports" leagues and vote far left, and some day they will just move away and leave property owners with the bill for all the BS. Unless they stay, which the County hopes they do to fund the nonsense along with guys like me.
In fact, they even held a free beer event at a bar entitled "Housing 4 Hipsters" which was designed to get young professional class people hooked on welfare.
Supposedly the speaker opened up with, "How many people here know you can make over 6 figures and still qualify for some type of housing assistance from the government?"
(apparently it was some kind of government backed free mortgage insurance)
AnthonyCumia
11-16-15, 22:34
This is what they're doing in Arlington, and it's killing me.
I bought a brand new condo a few years back and since then the neighborhood has gone straight down the tubes.
The "Winter Homeless Shelter" was always a drain on quality of life, and now they just replaced it with a year round multi story Bum Mansion right up the block from me. We became completely invaded by DCs homeless schizophrenic drug users overnight... like somebody flipped a switch.
Then they opened a halfway house on the other side of me.
The "Affordable" housing folks are worse because they actually feel entitled to live where they do. The argument is made that they must be near a Metro stop for mass transit reasons- so they end up being given some of the most expensive real estate in the United States of America!
The adult children who live and vote here are really just transients passing through. They play on "Social Sports" leagues and vote far left, and some day they will just move away and leave property owners with the bill for all the BS. Unless they stay, which the County hopes they do to fund the nonsense along with guys like me.
In fact, they even held a free beer event at a bar entitled "Housing 4 Hipsters" which was designed to get young professional class people hooked on welfare.
Supposedly the speaker opened up with, "How many people here know you can make over 6 figures and still qualify for some type of housing assistance from the government?"
(apparently it was some kind of government backed free mortgage insurance)
I am going to assume the area is very blue?
This is what they're doing in Arlington, and it's killing me.
Now imagine you busted your ass getting through and paying for medical school, took out even more loans to start a medical practice, bought a house for $280,000 back in 1996 when that was a lot of money for a house and due to the housing collapse, several properties on your street became rentals and the one right next to you had a Section 8 family move in.
I know the guy and he has been in the house for 20 years now and it went from an amazing neighborhood to "OMFG are you kidding me?!?" in a few short years. Everything you describe and more. Even worse, he's kind of trapped, his house still isn't worth what he paid for it 20 years ago so he'd take a loss on the sale, and there really isn't anyplace better to move to because he's not making enough to buy a $500,000 house due to unreal increases in insurance costs and a downturn in income.
He did everything right to have a good life. Busted his ass in school, put all his money into his business and home and bought a house in a safe neighborhood but not dramatically out of his income purchasing power. Now people who have done nothing more significant than have more kids than they can provide for live in the same great neighborhood.
It's offensive. He has literally caught there kids trying to break into his home and the parents threatened him because he "called the police on their kids." Now he comes home for lunch most days just to check on his house.
Moose-Knuckle
11-17-15, 01:09
The new model is to disperse Section 8 families to as many communities as possible. The belief is that they are getting them away from the criminal elements normally associated with Section 8. They don't seem to understand they are simply redistributing those "criminal elements" to every neighborhood.
Oh they understand alright.
It's no coincidence that all this started about the same time Barry, Holder, Jarret, the civil rights industry, etc. started their war on LE, neighborhood watchmen, and self-defense.
AnthonyCumia
11-17-15, 01:09
Now imagine you busted your ass getting through and paying for medical school, took out even more loans to start a medical practice, bought a house for $280,000 back in 1996 when that was a lot of money for a house and due to the housing collapse, several properties on your street became rentals and the one right next to you had a Section 8 family move in.
I know the guy and he has been in the house for 20 years now and it went from an amazing neighborhood to "OMFG are you kidding me?!?" in a few short years. Everything you describe and more. Even worse, he's kind of trapped, his house still isn't worth what he paid for it 20 years ago so he'd take a loss on the sale, and there really isn't anyplace better to move to because he's not making enough to buy a $500,000 house due to unreal increases in insurance costs and a downturn in income.
He did everything right to have a good life. Busted his ass in school, put all his money into his business and home and bought a house in a safe neighborhood but not dramatically out of his income purchasing power. Now people who have done nothing more significant than have more kids than they can provide for live in the same great neighborhood.
It's offensive. He has literally caught there kids trying to break into his home and the parents threatened him because he "called the police on their kids." Now he comes home for lunch most days just to check on his house.
This is why you fight this stuff, harder your hearts for if you do not all will be stolen from you.
I am assuming they do not have stand your ground/castle law?
This is why you fight this stuff, harder your hearts for if you do not all will be stolen from you.
I am assuming they do not have stand your ground/castle law?
This is FL, we invented Castle Law. But when a couple 12 year olds are trying to lift your sliding glass doors off the rails that's not exactly a deadly force qualifier. Also it's hard to fight the good fight when you are a doctor who works 70 hours a week. He actually told me some times he doesn't even want to come home because every day it's a new story of what they screwed up, vandalized or somehow negatively impacted his property.
As a "for example" he used to enjoy his sunday off on the back porch with a paper and coffee. Then he noticed the kids next door actually go outside to take a shit because the wait in the bathroom can be real long. He sat down one day and startled a 8 year old kid who was crapping next to his fence.
AnthonyCumia
11-17-15, 04:47
This is FL, we invented Castle Law. But when a couple 12 year olds are trying to lift your sliding glass doors off the rails that's not exactly a deadly force qualifier. Also it's hard to fight the good fight when you are a doctor who works 70 hours a week. He actually told me some times he doesn't even want to come home because every day it's a new story of what they screwed up, vandalized or somehow negatively impacted his property.
As a "for example" he used to enjoy his sunday off on the back porch with a paper and coffee. Then he noticed the kids next door actually go outside to take a shit because the wait in the bathroom can be real long. He sat down one day and startled a 8 year old kid who was crapping next to his fence.
...This is why I hate "diversity" "multiculturalism" "section 8" "feel good programs" "HUB" and generally everything the left produces.
They bring the greatest, hardest working, most moral, honest, and decent people down to the level of the most primitive scumbags in the name of "equality" and "fairness" and "insert lie or buzzword here".
I hate to ask but what political views does the man have?
AnthonyCumia
11-17-15, 04:55
Anyone else have any more horror stories?
...This is why I hate "diversity" "multiculturalism" "section 8" "feel good programs" "HUB" and generally everything the left produces.
They bring the greatest, hardest working, most moral, honest, and decent people down to the level of the most primitive scumbags in the name of "equality" and "fairness" and "insert lie or buzzword here".
I hate to ask but what political views does the man have?
Well let's put it this way, the only time he's ever asked a patient about guns is when he asked me what is involved to get a carry permit because he was thinking about it.
He's not really political and generally doesn't talk politics because he doesn't want any conflict with a patient.
KalashniKEV
11-17-15, 14:49
I am going to assume the area is very blue?
Yes.
Double whammy today...
Half of our $22M Budget Surplus will go to importing freeloaders via subsidized housing:
https://www.arlnow.com/2015/11/17/county-board-to-decide-how-to-spend-nearly-22-million-in-extra-funds/
Refugees are coming:
https://www.arlnow.com/2015/11/17/arlington-ready-to-welcome-syrian-refugees/
"Multiculturalism" and "diversity" suck.
Because the definitions changed somewhere.
Multiculturalism to me is taking a half black chick out to dinner at a Korean BBQ, then driving to the theater in an Asian designed car while listening to Led Zeppelin 4 side 2. With no problems
Because when you cone to America, you leave all your BS behind and get civilized.
"Diversity" isn't good because it's like a million different folks trying to get in everybody's way.
How about you show up, do what you're supposed to, and go home.
Not everyone trying to be all different.
I like stuff like it is. Speak English. If I went to live somewhere else, I'd speak their language. I also wouldn't pop a squat on someone else's lawn. That's just inappropriate.
AnthonyCumia
11-17-15, 16:00
"Multiculturalism" and "diversity" suck.
Because the definitions changed somewhere.
Multiculturalism to me is taking a half black chick out to dinner at a Korean BBQ, then driving to the theater in an Asian designed car while listening to Led Zeppelin 4 side 2. With no problems
Because when you cone to America, you leave all your BS behind and get civilized.
"Diversity" isn't good because it's like a million different folks trying to get in everybody's way.
How about you show up, do what you're supposed to, and go home.
Not everyone trying to be all different.
I like stuff like it is. Speak English. If I went to live somewhere else, I'd speak their language. I also wouldn't pop a squat on someone else's lawn. That's just inappropriate.
Yeah, its gone to far so we need to swing the pendulum back towards sanity.
Moose-Knuckle
11-17-15, 17:24
This is FL, we invented Castle Law. But when a couple 12 year olds are trying to lift your sliding glass doors off the rails that's not exactly a deadly force qualifier. Also it's hard to fight the good fight when you are a doctor who works 70 hours a week. He actually told me some times he doesn't even want to come home because every day it's a new story of what they screwed up, vandalized or somehow negatively impacted his property.
As a "for example" he used to enjoy his sunday off on the back porch with a paper and coffee. Then he noticed the kids next door actually go outside to take a shit because the wait in the bathroom can be real long. He sat down one day and startled a 8 year old kid who was crapping next to his fence.
This just reaffirms my personal belief that many people who were born here and are from multi-generational birth givers and sperm donors DO NOT deserve to live in the Shiny City on a Hill that so many toiled and died to create. They hate it anyway and aim to destroy it.
****'n savages, should be dropped off to a habitation more suiting to them such as the Sahara.
AnthonyCumia
11-17-15, 17:42
This just reaffirms my personal belief that many people who were born here and are from multi-generational birth givers and sperm donors DO NOT deserve to live in the Shiny City on a Hill that so many toiled and died to create. They hate it anyway and aim to destroy it.
****'n savages, should be dropped off to a habitation more suiting to them such as the Sahara.
Totally agree get rid of the ones we have and do not let and more in.
"Multiculturalism" and "diversity" suck.
Because the definitions changed somewhere.
Multiculturalism to me is taking a half black chick out to dinner at a Korean BBQ, then driving to the theater in an Asian designed car while listening to Led Zeppelin 4 side 2. With no problems
Because when you cone to America, you leave all your BS behind and get civilized.
Yeah....that.
Section 8 is a nightmare. My wife purchased a brand new home before we got together. Not a huge house, but a nice ranch in a brand new subdivision in a nice part of our city. Fast forward 5 years, we’re married and have a baby girl. Durning those 5 years folks start buying up properties around the corner and though-out the several blocks north of us. They of course turn the properties into rentals and in come the section 8 renters.
First they started breaking into cars in neighborhood. They made off with my Outkast CD and my satellite radio when I got hit. Then they started braking into houses. They broke in our house when we were home, but fortunately only got some cash out of my wallet which was by the door to the garage when they came in. My neighbor across the street was a Marine in WWII, when they tried to jimmy his sliding glass door he went after them armed with only his Ka-Bar.
Our plan to move was well under way by the time the shootings started. A great mid-western neighborhood right down the shitter thanks to Sec 8.
Fortunately, we were able to sell that house and move to a great rural setting with great schools. Our village (pop 1,800) doesn’t event have a police force. We have one County Sheriff’s Deputy that patrols our community as well as two other villages on our side of the county. You don’t even need to lock your door, though I still do. Sounds perfect right? No so fast.
The County Housing Authority wants to relocate the residents of the city’s main public housing development to a safer setting with better schools. Guess where they want to build the new public housing? My little village. Because we don’t currently have any section 8 renters and a limited number of multi-family rentals in general, the Housing Authority wants to take advantage of several million dollars in federal grant money (aka our tax dollars) under the Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing rule and build housing expressly for section 8 renters. According to the HA, our lack of section 8 housing has a dispirit impact on minorities and that of course must be remedied.
We've put together a big community email campaign in the effort to put up some resistance. Ultimately, there isn't a lot that we can can to prevent the HA move. The one thing that seems to be working in our favor is the fact that we have a volunteer fire department without ambulance service, so EMS response times might not be sufficient for the HA requirements. Of course if we don’t get it, some one else will. So wrong for so many reasons.
Spread the love baby.
I remember my second phase of FTO and I was with a TO who wasn't my normal training officer that week. We were in a pretty hood part of the county and after I made a bike stop that resulted in a nice warrant arrest he told me the truth about the area. When he first started working there it was a nice middle class area for people who wanted to live close to Spokane but not in the city limits. Then section 8 and low income housing was pushed out there, it went to hell within 2 years after that. Burglaries, car thefts, vandalism, mail theft, drug related crimes all went through the roof. I'll never forget that.
They had the projects in larger cities and low-income housing/ apartments in smaller cities. Then the housing authorities decided that they need to be able to live any where they want while still refusing to be productive members of society. It only leads to trouble.
By the way, I was wrong about the amount of the Section 8 benefit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_%28housing%29
The maximum allowed voucher is $2,000 a month.
Can somebody rent a house on your block for $2,000 a month? Is that higher than your mortgage payment? Can they live in a better neighborhood than you can afford?
Moose-Knuckle
11-18-15, 00:39
Section 8 is a nightmare. My wife purchased a brand new home before we got together. Not a huge house, but a nice ranch in a brand new subdivision in a nice part of our city. Fast forward 5 years, we’re married and have a baby girl. Durning those 5 years folks start buying up properties around the corner and though-out the several blocks north of us. They of course turn the properties into rentals and in come the section 8 renters.
First they started breaking into cars in neighborhood. They made off with my Outkast CD and my satellite radio when I got hit. Then they started braking into houses. They broke in our house when we were home, but fortunately only got some cash out of my wallet which was by the door to the garage when they came in. My neighbor across the street was a Marine in WWII, when they tried to jimmy his sliding glass door he went after them armed with only his Ka-Bar.
Our plan to move was well under way by the time the shootings started. A great mid-western neighborhood right down the shitter thanks to Sec 8.
Fortunately, we were able to sell that house and move to a great rural setting with great schools. Our village (pop 1,800) doesn’t event have a police force. We have one County Sheriff’s Deputy that patrols our community as well as two other villages on our side of the county. You don’t even need to lock your door, though I still do. Sounds perfect right? No so fast.
The County Housing Authority wants to relocate the residents of the city’s main public housing development to a safer setting with better schools. Guess where they want to build the new public housing? My little village. Because we don’t currently have any section 8 renters and a limited number of multi-family rentals in general, the Housing Authority wants to take advantage of several million dollars in federal grant money (aka our tax dollars) under the Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing rule and build housing expressly for section 8 renters. According to the HA, our lack of section 8 housing has a dispirit impact on minorities and that of course must be remedied.
We've put together a big community email campaign in the effort to put up some resistance. Ultimately, there isn't a lot that we can can to prevent the HA move. The one thing that seems to be working in our favor is the fact that we have a volunteer fire department without ambulance service, so EMS response times might not be sufficient for the HA requirements. Of course if we don’t get it, some one else will. So wrong for so many reasons.
This is how the Obama's of the world combat "white flight". They know shipping a bunch of hood rats to good schools is not going to make said hood rats grades go up or clean up their acts. Nope, they no the reverse is true and they want to export that culture from the urban population centers to the suburbs and now even rural communities. Combine this with MILLIONS of illegals from Mexico and Central America AND all the fugees from Africa and the Middle East and it's not hard to see what the agenda is. But hey, Barry's last year as POTUS he has stated that his focus is going to be on gun violence aka gun control aka disarmament.
Moose-Knuckle
11-18-15, 00:40
By the way, I was wrong about the amount of the Section 8 benefit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_%28housing%29
The maximum allowed voucher is $2,000 a month.
Can somebody rent a house on your block for $2,000 a month? Is that higher than your mortgage payment? Can they live in a better neighborhood than you can afford?
I was thinking it was $2,200 per month but yeah that sounds about right. More than my monthly mortgage. This is the sort of thing that eventually make people do things that snowballs . . .
Unbelievable. We need to put an end to section 8 benefits and all government housing for anyone but those with true disability.
This is how the Obama's of the world combat "white flight". They know shipping a bunch of hood rats to good schools is not going to make said hood rats grades go up or clean up their acts. Nope, they no the reverse is true and they want to export that culture from the urban population centers to the suburbs and now even rural communities. Combine this with MILLIONS of illegals from Mexico and Central America AND all the fugees from Africa and the Middle East and it's not hard to see what the agenda is. But hey, Barry's last year as POTUS he has stated that his focus is going to be on gun violence aka gun control aka disarmament.
You are 100% correct, the agenda of the current POTUS is blatantly obvious. We're not special, but my wife and I both worked hard to get where we are (put ourselves through school, served our country and saved our $) but now it feels like the gov't is standing against us at almost every turn. If we complain too loudly we are labeled racists.
One great thing is the legal immigrants in my neighborhood. They are professional types from China, India, South America etc and they are the loudest voices against this nonsense. One guy down the street is of African descent from Trinidad & Tobago and is leading the anti sec 8 charge. We had a town hall style meeting with the county board and the HA a few months ago and this guy respectfully tore them a new asshole. When they claimed that sec 8 housing had no adverse affects on crime he busted out the print outs of the local crime stats. Over the previous 90 days in a mile radius around the public housing 389 crimes reported. Bear in mind half of that area is river/lake where no crimes were committed. In a mile radius around our village over the same 90 days the was 1 crime (DUI & possession of MJ). The HA responded with, "next question please."
ramairthree
11-18-15, 10:31
Yeah,
This is the perfect example of,
WTF do we get our vote and say on this.
Or the refugees, etc.
It seems appointed an unelected officials and judges do what we don't want and their is no recourse.
Well, there is only one recourse,
Which is why the 2A must be abolished.
Anyone else have any more horror stories?
I'm living one currently. I moved into a new house 3 years ago and it's a developing neighborhood. My house was the first one on the street 3 years ago and the last few houses are being finished up on the street I live on. The street I'm on is the last one in the new neighborhood to be completed. This is nice homes in the 200,000 to 220,000 price range. Most neighbors are medical staff, LE, business owners, bankers, etc... Upper class people.
Well, I'll be damned. The house beside me was finished a few months ago And take a wild guess who moves in. The ghetto section 8 housing scum. They are black neighbors. I first started noticing a problem when the grass was never mowed. They never edge the grass on the sidewalks and keep it presentable. There is no up keep on the house. The water house is thrown out in the front yard and trash on the ground. I noticed the man is always home and asked where he works. His response was he is on unemployment and let's the government take care of him. They drive fairly nice cars but the ghetto comes to visit them when they throw late night parties. They own two pit bulls which they never clean up after. There back yard smells terrible and the smell blows over to our yard. Not to mention the fly infestation during the summer from them. I'm thankful we have a wooden privacy fence. Im sure it will only get worse.
Needless to say, the wife and I are looking for a new house.
Averageman
11-19-15, 06:45
I'm living one currently. I moved into a new house 3 years ago and it's a developing neighborhood. My house was the first one on the street 3 years ago and the last few houses are being finished up on the street I live on. The street I'm on is the last one in the new neighborhood to be completed. This is nice homes in the 200,000 to 220,000 price range. Most neighbors are medical staff, LE, business owners, bankers, etc... Upper class people.
Well, I'll be damned. The house beside me was finished a few months ago And take a wild guess who moves in. The ghetto section 8 housing scum. They are black neighbors. I first started noticing a problem when the grass was never mowed. They never edge the grass on the sidewalks and keep it presentable. There is no up keep on the house. The water house is thrown out in the front yard and trash on the ground. I noticed the man is always home and asked where he works. His response was he is on unemployment and let's the government take care of him. They drive fairly nice cars but the ghetto comes to visit them when they throw late night parties. They own two pit bulls which they never clean up after. There back yard smells terrible and the smell blows over to our yard. Not to mention the fly infestation during the summer from them. I'm thankful we have a wooden privacy fence. Im sure it will only get worse.
Needless to say, the wife and I are looking for a new house.
I would launch an Offence before I would move.
I heard a story about a guy who had a neighbor like that, he went to the bookstore and got about 150 of those order the magazine now and pay later cards from the rack. Even the postage is free, just drop them in a mail box.
Grass isn't cut, just call the local folks who issue tickets for that. Dogs being kept in terrible conditions, well there is a number for that too. Loud parties with the ghetto mobiles parked akimbo on the street, there's a number for that too. CPS, yep, don't forget CPS, those folks are always fun, fun, fun to deal with.
If your neighbors are willing and like minded they can play this game too.
This kind of malarky works both ways,...just saying, not that I would have any experience at this kind of stuff.
Now get off my grass kid.
I would launch an Offence before I would move.
I heard a story about a guy who had a neighbor like that, he went to the bookstore and got about 150 of those order the magazine now and pay later cards from the rack. Even the postage is free, just drop them in a mail box.
Grass isn't cut, just call the local folks who issue tickets for that. Dogs being kept in terrible conditions, well there is a number for that too. Loud parties with the ghetto mobiles parked akimbo on the street, there's a number for that too. CPS, yep, don't forget CPS, those folks are always fun, fun, fun to deal with.
If your neighbors are willing and like minded they can play this game too.
This kind of malarky works both ways,...just saying, not that I would have any experience at this kind of stuff.
Now get off my grass kid.
Yep, I had to put up with that crap for an entire year.
My contribution, motion detector spotlights pointed where they congregate. They generally don't like being lit up and it helps you keep track of them.
Steyr, I think you're a groovy guy but are you known as the "wish a MFer would" guy by the urchins in your hood?
You've referenced having like MP5K.
I only ask because A. You're doing a public service and B. The funniest call I ever got was by some track phone types about a guy who worked his junkyard with an old M1 Carbine slung on his back with two 30 rounders Ranger taped and a Ruger on his hip.
They no joke wanted to know if he could do that on his own property (he could) and if there was a way I could make him stop (there wasn't ). They said it made them feel scared. I said, Why would you be? Then came the uhhs and umms.
He'd been robbed/burglarized a LOT and had his fill. Mysteriously he stopped getting ripped off for a good while
Averageman
11-19-15, 14:20
After coming outside to see why there was a F250 parked in my yard, the guy who didn't give a shit about his yard, his house or pissing me off was selling restaurant equipment to someone out of his backyard.
Yeah, just back that up over the neighbors manicured lawn and in ground sprinkler system.
They moved later that summer.
I feel for you that have Section8 dirt bags as neighbors.
While not exactly the same, we had an influx of dirt bags move into rent property near us after Katrina.
We sold our house and moved into the country.
Problem solved.
So what is a section 8 renter?
I assume this isn't just regular welfare.
I have read all the stories here and wow, I don't know how I would handle it.
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The problem is, it is just regular welfare. That's how the FSA acts these days.
So what is a section 8 renter?
I assume this isn't just regular welfare.
I have read all the stories here and wow, I don't know how I would handle it.
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Section 8 is an additional benefit like welfare. Only where Welfare is an income benefit, Section 8 is an additional benefit for housing. This used to be designated housing blocks, projects and things like that but it was deemed "discriminatory."
Now they simply get a monthly benefit to use anywhere they wish to live and it reloads every month just like their EBT card. And while you'd think property owners would want nothing to do with them given the incredible damage they do to the property, the reality is in a dead market and hard economy Section 8 is a guaranteed monthly payment to the property owner from the government. No more "hard luck" stories or tenants who are short or behind on rent. Additionally, the amounts and generally more than the landlord could get from a "regular working family" tenant. There are also additional protections from section 8 to compensate property owners for most of the damage.
It's almost like the government program is providing incredible incentives to have Section 8 families distributed into working class and middle class neighborhoods so they can change the voting dynamic of those districts.
And people speak of gentrification as if it's a bad thing.
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