View Full Version : Please recommend a compact scope for .308 carbine bolt gun...
I don't know where to begin, as there are so many different available options and I don't know very much about scopes.
What I want is a compact, moderate-price, rifle scope for defense and possibly hunting use on this Ruger Gunsight Scout .308:
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp59/zmonki/Rugers/P5250014.jpg (http://s397.photobucket.com/user/zmonki/media/Rugers/P5250014.jpg.html)
(I will be moving the RDS off the Scout and over to an AR)
I don't expect to be shooting this at long ranges, just close- to moderate-range distances.
Features I'm wondering about: llumination? Zoom range? Aperture? What brand/model offers excellent quality without spending a LOT of cash?
Thanks, in advance, for your suggestions.
What are the targets, and what ranges? And do you plan on running it in the scout position, or over the receiver?
Leupy mk6 3-18
Nightforce 2.5-10
Leupy mk6 3-18
Nightforce 2.5-10
Won't work unless he puts another mount on it. With the scout mount he needs a LER scope.
I would run a MK6 1-6 with TMR-D. Put it in a LaRue SPR extended mount, with the mount backwards if you can't mount it on the receiver.
Boba Fett v2
11-30-15, 18:23
Won't work unless he puts another mount on it. With the scout mount he needs a LER scope.
Um... not quite.
The Ruger GSR comes with 1" scope rings, so he can either run an optic with a 1" tube or spring for a larger set of rings. That said, if the OP decides against a LER scope, I'd recommend taking a look at the Vortex 1-6x Strike Eagle mounted in the traditional way. I used it on my Ruger GSR and it worked great. The Redfield Revolution 2-7x33 Accu-Range is a good cost effective solution as well, made in the USA and backed by Leupold's lifetime warranty as an added bonus. Additionally, the OP could opt for the XS Sight Systems (https://www.xssights.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=993608) extended rail if he wants to retain the use of back-up iron sights. Personally, I think the GSR is a great host for either an RDS or an LPV optic.
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/9172/awneW8.jpg
What are the targets, and what ranges? And do you plan on running it in the scout position, or over the receiver?
Inebriated... I'm thinking that the Ruger Gunsight Scout .308 will be, for me, a SHTF DEFENSE rifle in addition to my AR-15s. Something with harder hitting rounds that might be used at somewhat longer ranges than the AR. But nothing significantly LONG-range. I'm thinking a good defense rifle at, perhaps, 75-150 yards?
Won't work unless he puts another mount on it. With the scout mount he needs a LER scope.
What is an LER scope? Sorry, I don't know some of these acronyms.
Boba Fett v2
11-30-15, 21:46
What is an LER scope? Sorry, I don't know some of these acronyms.
Long Eye Relief
I would run a MK6 1-6 with TMR-D. Put it in a LaRue SPR extended mount, with the mount backwards if you can't mount it on the receiver.
NongShim... thank you, but... what is a TMR-D? I'm trying to catch up with you guys and your acronyms! :)
You guys are so far beyond me when it comes to rifle scopes.... please bear with me as I try to catch up!
Boba Fett v2
11-30-15, 21:54
NongShim... thank you, but... what is a TMR-D? I'm trying to catch up with you guys and your acronyms! :)
Leupold TMR-D (Tactical Milling Reticle - Delta):
https://www.leupold.com/wp-content/uploads/reticle/reticle-131-large.png
Um... not quite.
The Ruger GSR comes with 1" scope rings, so he can either run an optic with a 1" tube or spring for a larger set of rings. That said, if the OP decides against a LER scope, I'd recommend taking a look at the Vortex 1-6x Strike Eagle mounted in the traditional way. I used it on my Ruger GSR and it worked great. The Redfield Revolution 2-7x33 Accu-Range is a good cost effective solution as well, made in the USA and backed by Leupold's lifetime warranty as an added bonus. Additionally, the OP could opt for the XS Sight Systems (https://www.xssights.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=993608) extended rail if he wants to retain the use of back-up iron sights. Personally, I think the GSR is a great host for either an RDS or an LPV optic.
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/9172/awneW8.jpg
Beautiful set-up, Boba Fett. I think that perhaps the RDS might be a good way to go, with my application, for this rifle. What is an LPV?
Boba Fett v2
11-30-15, 22:01
Beautiful set-up, Boba Fett. I think that perhaps the RDS might be a good way to go, with my application, for this rifle. What is an LPV?
LPV or LPVO is a Low Power Variable Optic.
ETA: Typical LPVOs range from 1-4x thru 1-10x, 2-7x, 3-9x, 2.5-10x... typically not exceeding 10x power at the high end.
Yep. I concur, MK6 1-6 TMR-D, not that you needed my reassurance. The best part is the light weight, however, even at such low weight, it is solid as a rock.
http://hkguns.zenfolio.com/img/s9/v17/p227719468-5.jpg
I saw it in the picture, but nobody has specifically mentioned the XS extended rail. I bought one for my scout rifle, and it has worked very well! It has an integrated rear sight so you still have irons, and extends the pic rail back over the receiver to allow a traditional scope to be mounted. I think you will be out 80 bucks or so for the rail, and it is worth it.
Steiner Tactical 1-5 with 308 BDC reticle.
While I am generally not a fan of BDC type reticles for precision work/long range use this is a great scope.
We are running the 1-5 5.56 on a few rifles and put a 308 version on my buddies 16" SOCOM
He wanted something he could run CQB out to say 600
Thanks for the input, guys. I've got a good start now in considering the options.
the_1iviper
12-01-15, 21:58
NongShim... thank you, but... what is a TMR-D? I'm trying to catch up with you guys and your acronyms! :)
edit : late to the party :o
As this Ruger is a carbine, not exactly a long-range 'sniper' rifle, I'm inclined to keep the RDS with it.
I've not much experience at longer ranges, would the Aimpoint H-1 on the Ruger GSR be a good combination for defense shooting up to 100 yds. or so?
Boba Fett v2
12-01-15, 22:30
As this Ruger is a carbine, not exactly a long-range 'sniper' rifle, I'm inclined to keep the RDS with it.
I've not much experience at longer ranges, would the Aimpoint H-1 on the Ruger GSR be a good combination for defense shooting up to 100 yds. or so?
Yes, and I have tried a H1 on my GSR in the past with very positive results. However, you say that you intend this to be a SHTF type set-up. The GSR is purpose built to be a survival and self-defense rifle. In other words it'll put meat on your table and is fully capable of putting down potential threats. In that regard, I'd seriously consider something that has at least a little bit of magnification and a reticle. If your RDS takes a shit (yes, it can happen even with a proven optic like an Aimpoint), at least you'll have a reticle to work with. I would also strongly advise you to consider adding the XS Sightsystem rail I mentioned. It features a built-in rear sight aperture that you can use in the event your optics fail altogether. LPVOs are not regarded as "sniper" optics. Just my recommendation. Your gun, your choice.
Yes, and I have tried a H1 on my GSR in the past with very positive results. However, you say that you intend this to be a SHTF type set-up. The GSR is purpose built to be a survival and self-defense rifle. In other words it'll put meat on your table and is fully capable of putting down potential threats. In that regard, I'd seriously consider something that has at least a little bit of magnification and a reticle. If your RDS takes a shit (yes, it can happen even with a proven optic like an Aimpoint), at least you'll have a reticle to work with. I would also strongly advise you to consider adding the XS Sightsystem rail I mentioned. It features a built-in rear sight aperture that you can use in the event your optics fail altogether. LPVOs are not regarded as "sniper" optics. Just my recommendation. Your gun, your choice.
Makes good sense. It would be easy to leave the H1 that's on it, on it. But a LPVO sounds like a nice step up from the H1. I do need to look into them.
Bushnell LRHS
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If your RDS takes a shit (yes, it can happen even with a proven optic like an Aimpoint), at least you'll have a reticle to work with. I would also strongly advise you to consider adding the XS Sightsystem rail I mentioned. It features a built-in rear sight aperture that you can use in the event your optics fail altogether. LPVOs are not regarded as "sniper" optics. Just my recommendation. Your gun, your choice.
Revisiting this good sense comment.
I'm beginning to think that something with a small amount of magnification (2x perhaps?) that combines a red dot, along with a reticle that is useable if the red dot fails, makes the most sense.
I've been scanning online retailers looking at RDS optics and there are a bazillion options out there. What would be some of the top choices with this capability, but sold at moderate prices ($200-$300)?
Leupold FXII 2.5x20 scout scope, or Burris 2.75x scout scope.
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