View Full Version : Want a Streamlight TLR-6 for your S&W Shield? You might be able to get one soon...
So I was searching around ye ol interwebz to see if Streamlight had plans to make a TLR-6 for the S&W Shield when I stumbled across this:
http://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-69273-Shield-Lithium-Batteries/dp/B0188YF8KQ
A little Google Fu of "Streamlight 69273" led to this:
http://www.billhicksco.com/storefrontCommerce/search.do?searchType=keyword&keyword=streamlight&emailAddress=
From that website it looks like Streamlight is making a TLR-6 for the S&W Shield, Glock 26/27/33, Khars, Sig 238 & 938 and Kimber Micro 1911's.
And they are also listing a STREAM PROTAC RAILMOUNT 1L & STREAM PROTAC RAILMOUNT 2L which could be interesting.
I have been wondering since the TLR-6 came out why Streamlight completely ignored the Sheild and other models and introduced it only for the new kids on the block in the G42 & 43. Now it looks like they may have remedied that situation.
Just thought some of my fellow M4cer's would like to know that they now have options to mount a light on some of the most popular single stack carry guns on the market. :cool:
Awesome sauce. Thanks Big A!
Awesome sauce. Thanks Big A!
http://www.streamlight.com/en-us/product/product.html?pid=328
So I guess it's official. Can't wait to get one for my Shield.
And then get a G43 to get one for too!
Found these from Crimson Trace.
Shield:
http://www.crimsontrace.com/products/manufacturer/smith-wesson/01-5600
G42/3:
http://www.crimsontrace.com/products/manufacturer/glock/01-5280
I'm Still waiting for Streamlight to release the damn TLR-6 for other models though.
Nice, another option! Can't wait to see these out in the wild.
Surprised it's taking so long for this stuff to come to market for the Shield.
Does anyone make a Kydex IWB holster for a Glock 19 or 26 with the TLR-6 attached?
I don't know why both companies insisting on having a laser rather than making it optional.
Having an onboard flashlight is a huge plus- I'll probably get the Crimson trace version since it's advertised at 150 lumens vs. Streamlights 100 lumen model.
civiliansheepdog
03-11-16, 20:06
I agree the laser should be optional.
A laser is a huge help in light conditions where iron sighs, even with tritium, are difficult to see. They can help for shooting from different, awkward positions, while moving, etc. if one needs glasses or contact lenses to see iron sights, the laser provides additional help if the corrective lenses are not there.
I see a lot of value in the laser.
I would really like to see the laser controlled independently of the light, so that the laser could be kept on while the light is used intermittently.
I would also like to see some holstet companies offer some holsters for guns so equipped. Kydex IWB holsters, pocket holsters (leather or nylon), as well as others would really enhance the usefulness of putting one of these on a gun.
the CT version looks like a pressure pad under the trigger guard, and a button on the side. My guess is laser with the pressure pad, light on the side, but in reading the description, that may just be a mode button. But it reads like you can set it to activate whatever you choose, not just both.
It looks like the Crimson Trace version has 4 modes: laser only, light only, laser + light, and laser + strobe. All are activated by the button under the middle finger on the grip once the mode is selected.
I have Crimson Trace lasers on four guns (3 tiny pocket guns and 1 1911), and like them a lot. On the really tiny .380 pocket pistols, they are very serious accuracy enhancers. On guns at least the size of a Glock 26 or larger, under light conditions when both the laser and iron sights can be seen, the laser's accuracy advantage is much smaller, but it can still be nice to have.
I don't know why both companies insisting on having a laser rather than making it optional.
Having an onboard flashlight is a huge plus- I'll probably get the Crimson trace version since it's advertised at 150 lumens vs. Streamlights 100 lumen model.
Both models have the abilities to turn the laser off and run the light only.
Does anyone make a Kydex IWB holster for a Glock 19 or 26 with the TLR-6 attached?
The TLR-6 69272 only fits the Glock 26/27/33. It will not fit the 19. These just came out so it may be a month before we see holsters.
For anyone interested, the models for the Shield(69273) and SC Glocks(69272) are now available on amazon from a 3rd party seller, not amazon themselves, for $107.40 & free shipping.
Midway USA now has the TLR-6 for the Shield (69273) for $109.99:
http://ads.midwayusa.com/product/316159/streamlight-tlr-6-s-and-w-m-and-p-shield-weaponlight-led-and-laser-polymer-black?cm_mmc=pf_ci_google-_-Self-Defense+-+Lights+-+Weapons+Mounted+Lights-_-Streamlight-_-316159&gclid=COeOwJXE48sCFUM8gQodIR8BXg
Does anyone make a Kydex IWB holster for a Glock 19 or 26 with the TLR-6 attached?
First company I've found offering holsters for all Streamlight TLR-6 models:
http://www.daraholsters.com/blog/streamlight-tlr6-holsters/
I have not used this company before so I don't know anything about them.
ETA: Here is another one:
http://trholsters.com/m-p-shield-iwb-kydex-holster/
HardToHandle
04-21-16, 20:00
First company I've found offering holsters for all Streamlight TLR-6 models:
http://www.daraholsters.com/blog/streamlight-tlr6-holsters/
I have not used this company before so I don't know anything about them.
ETA: Here is another one:
http://trholsters.com/m-p-shield-iwb-kydex-holster/
Well... I have had a Warrior Concealment G26/TLR-6 combo for a few weeks now. Impressive speed of delivery, quality Kydex rig, amazingly easy to wear with almost no impact from the audiotape size from the TLR.
i'm a little confused with these products. the glock 43 has a magazine capacity of less than a 1911 (as if that were possible). it would appear the primary use for this gun is immediate defense, a gut buster if you will (although revolvers are better for actual gut insertion and discharge without possibility of jamming).
that being the case, why does this type of gun need a light or laser? i would never go hunting or searching for trouble if all i had was a g43.
I think having a light/laser on any SD weapon for positive target ID & aiming assist is a positive and can think of many scenarios where it would serve useful.
I think having a light/laser on any SD weapon for positive target ID & aiming assist is a positive and can think of many scenarios where it would serve useful.
elaborate. i'm curious for the specific application of this tiny gun.
elaborate. i'm curious for the specific application of this tiny gun.
I don't think I need to elaborate. It's a concealed carry gun & the environments in which it's carried & scenarios where it can used are endless.
titsonritz
04-28-16, 21:57
Here is another option: http://www.viridiangreenlaser.com/reactors.php and they have holsters.
Has anyone run this yet?
I'd love a light on my 26, but I've yet to see anyone mention running one the same way they would an X300 or XC1. I'm mainly curious about how the switch actually lends itself to frequent, predominantly momentary-only use.
HardToHandle
04-28-16, 23:30
elaborate. i'm curious for the specific application of this tiny gun.
I will bite. These are reasons for me to have a light on concealed carry handgun, even if not for Glock 43.
Putting a deer down after customizing the front end of my truck at night- like when your headlights are vaporized into 1000 pieces.
It is dark or at least low light 8-12 hours a day.
Sometimes the lights go off, like the 2013 blackout that shutoff those lights for a third of the US population.
Light on my gun means I also have a light for the most serious crisis I hope I will never face.
And for the record, I haven't gone looking for trouble since I was paid to do so by the government. That was 15 years ago for me, but I have also seen all kinds of trouble come to people who were not seeking it. My Grandma had a Walther .25. Would that be my first choice for me? Nope. Does a pocket .25 beat strong words? Yes.
If facing a life and death situation, I see all sorts of reasons to have options when trouble finds me.
Maybe the line of questioning about how many rounds are necessary for self protection deserves its own thread.
HardToHandle
04-28-16, 23:49
I'd love a light on my 26, but I've yet to see anyone mention running one the same way they would an X300 or XC1. I'm mainly curious about how the switch actually lends itself to frequent, predominantly momentary-only use.
Long reach to the switch, but the switch is ambidextrous.
It is a click on-off switch. Momentary is sort of doable by depressing and holding. I wish it had momentary, but I assume the ambo switch element prevents that.
The secret sauce is the trigger guard mounting without a rail, coupled with an impressively small size.
The TLR6 is a compromise, but the assessment for my situation is that it offers an enhanced series of options with limited trade offs. My guess is the TLR6 will spur additional more refined products but this is a pretty useful innovation nonetheless.
I wish Glock would add an accessory rail to G26 dust cover... Not holding my breath for that.
Long reach to the switch, but the switch is ambidextrous.
It is a click on-off switch. Momentary is sort of doable by depressing and holding. I wish it had momentary, but I assume the ambo switch element prevents that.
The secret sauce is the trigger guard mounting without a rail, coupled with an impressively small size.
The TLR6 is a compromise, but the assessment for my situation is that it offers an enhanced series of options with limited trade offs. My guess is the TLR6 will spur additional more refined products but this is a pretty useful innovation nonetheless.
I wish Glock would add an accessory rail to G26 dust cover... Not holding my breath for that.
Thanks for the input.
Yeah, the UI itself seems usable to me, with the quick press being constant and a longer press being momentary, I just have been curious about the positioning of the button and all that. I'm definitely onboard with the attachment method and overall form, and I do agree, it offers options without any real negatives. I'll probably pull the trigger tomorrow and see how I like it.
I will bite. These are reasons for me to have a light on concealed carry handgun, even if not for Glock 43.
Putting a deer down after customizing the front end of my truck at night- like when your headlights are vaporized into 1000 pieces.
It is dark or at least low light 8-12 hours a day.
Sometimes the lights go off, like the 2013 blackout that shutoff those lights for a third of the US population.
Light on my gun means I also have a light for the most serious crisis I hope I will never face.
And for the record, I haven't gone looking for trouble since I was paid to do so by the government. That was 15 years ago for me, but I have also seen all kinds of trouble come to people who were not seeking it. My Grandma had a Walther .25. Would that be my first choice for me? Nope. Does a pocket .25 beat strong words? Yes.
If facing a life and death situation, I see all sorts of reasons to have options when trouble finds me.
Maybe the line of questioning about how many rounds are necessary for self protection deserves its own thread.
i'm not saying that the gun is not worthy of being carried. i'm comparing it to a snub nose revolver, which has to be the market the g43 is in. there isn't a huge market for lights on snub nose revolvers is there? the case for gut busters and boot guns is that you use them as the last ditch. if you're already being attacked, you shoot. there's no need for target identification because it's clear and close. if you have it as a backup gun and your primary went down or was taken from you, the threat is close and identified.
i wouldn't use this gun to go looking for trouble. if there were a dark place with unknowns, i wouldn't go in with the g43, i also don't think that's what this gun was made for.
for your specific scenario of putting down a deer in the dark, does the light really have to be on your gun? that's a non emergent situation. you could accomplish that with a headlamp and the gun and every car should have a head lamp in it.
my argument is for all the emergent situations that this gun would legitimately be the most useful tool, lighting is a smaller factor.
for real work, this gun can't be a primary use choice. this gun is the other option.
i'm not saying that the gun is not worthy of being carried. i'm comparing it to a snub nose revolver, which has to be the market the g43 is in. there isn't a huge market for lights on snub nose revolvers is there? the case for gut busters and boot guns is that you use them as the last ditch. if you're already being attacked, you shoot. there's no need for target identification because it's clear and close. if you have it as a backup gun and your primary went down or was taken from you, the threat is close and identified.
i wouldn't use this gun to go looking for trouble. if there were a dark place with unknowns, i wouldn't go in with the g43, i also don't think that's what this gun was made for.
for your specific scenario of putting down a deer in the dark, does the light really have to be on your gun? that's a non emergent situation. you could accomplish that with a headlamp and the gun and every car should have a head lamp in it.
my argument is for all the emergent situations that this gun would legitimately be the most useful tool, lighting is a smaller factor.
for real work, this gun can't be a primary use choice. this gun is the other option.
The 43 is accurate at distances beyond contact distances, simple as that.
You're only limiting yourself by relegating it to being a "gut buster".
i'm not saying that the gun is not worthy of being carried. i'm comparing it to a snub nose revolver, which has to be the market the g43 is in. there isn't a huge market for lights on snub nose revolvers is there? the case for gut busters and boot guns is that you use them as the last ditch. if you're already being attacked, you shoot. there's no need for target identification because it's clear and close. if you have it as a backup gun and your primary went down or was taken from you, the threat is close and identified.
This is where you fail (in addition to your continuous lack capitalization). Your viewpoint of this gun is so extremely narrow that it's skewing any practical & rational thought. You're acting like this is some sort of 25ACP Derringer or something. It's a single stack 9mm & it's capable doing what other 9mm pistols are capable of. Some things even better, like concealment. Some things like mag capacity, not so much. It's a trade off.
If it's not for you, don't get one. There's obviously a large enough market out there that disagrees with your viewpoint on it.
If you need a painted picture, how about an active shooter situation in a movie theater? Dark, crowded, chaotic. Any gun would come in pretty handy right now to stop the BG. It'd be even handier equipped with a laser/light, including a G43 with a TLR6 mounted.
The 43 is accurate at distances beyond contact distances, simple as that.
You're only limiting yourself by relegating it to being a "gut buster".
i'm not saying it's not accurate. that was not at all my point with all the factors i cited. it is similar to a snub nosed revolver (also not inaccurate at extended distances). what i'm saying is the primary use of such a gun precludes the use of a light. there's very few scenarios where a light and laser would be necessary for the primary use of this weapon.
This is where you fail (in addition to your continuous lack capitalization). Your viewpoint of this gun is so extremely narrow that it's skewing any practical & rational thought. You're acting like this is some sort of 25ACP Derringer or something. It's a single stack 9mm & it's capable doing what other 9mm pistols are capable of. Some things even better, like concealment. Some things like mag capacity, not so much. It's a trade off.
If it's not for you, don't get one. There's obviously a large enough market out there that disagrees with your viewpoint on it.
If you need a painted picture, how about an active shooter situation in a movie theater? Dark, crowded, chaotic. Any gun would come in pretty handy right now to stop the BG. It'd be even handier equipped with a laser/light, including a G43 with a TLR6 mounted.
my viewpoint is as narrow as i defined it and you have actually not yet presented anything that suggests the g43 is not in the snub nosed revolver category of use. this is not a derringer in 25 acp, that's not a snub nosed revolver. this is not about me getting one of these. if i had a use for such a weapon i would already have one. if i had one, i would not be getting a light for it.
let me paint you a picture. in a theater shooting scenario, you would not want to use a light. the threat has already identified himself. there is no need to light him for identification. all lighting does it identify you as his problem that deserves all his attention. yes, there will be muzzle flashes when you pop off at him, but that's a lot more subtle than 150 lumens before you start engaging.
i'm not saying it's not accurate. that was not at all my point with all the factors i cited. it is similar to a snub nosed revolver (also not inaccurate at extended distances). what i'm saying is the primary use of such a gun precludes the use of a light. there's very few scenarios where a light and laser would be necessary for the primary use of this weapon.
For many people, this is the only gun they'll have on them. Being able to run it the same way they would a full-sized duty gun is a benefit, especially considering that there's no bulk added for the capability.
I can think of a number of situations where the light is beneficial on a 43, and I'm sure you can think of a number of rebuttals. Point is, it's a tool in the toolbox with zero downsides.
i'm not saying it's not accurate. that was not at all my point with all the factors i cited. it is similar to a snub nosed revolver (also not inaccurate at extended distances). what i'm saying is the primary use of such a gun precludes the use of a light. there's very few scenarios where a light and laser would be necessary for the primary use of this weapon.
my viewpoint is as narrow as i defined it and you have actually not yet presented anything that suggests the g43 is not in the snub nosed revolver category of use. this is not a derringer in 25 acp, that's not a snub nosed revolver. this is not about me getting one of these. if i had a use for such a weapon i would already have one. if i had one, i would not be getting a light for it.
let me paint you a picture. in a theater shooting scenario, you would not want to use a light. the threat has already identified himself. there is no need to light him for identification. all lighting does it identify you as his problem that deserves all his attention. yes, there will be muzzle flashes when you pop off at him, but that's a lot more subtle than 150 lumens before you start engaging.
You are the one stating that its "primary use would be for immediate defense, a gut buster if you will". You are the one stating that as fact, not me. You have failed to prove your statement that suggests the 43 is nothing BUT a "gut buster". The onus is on you, not us. A Derringer is more of a "gut buster" or "boot gun" than a 43 is. You saying that a Derringer is not a "snub nose revolver", well, neither is a 43. In fact, I don't consider them competing in the same market at all. One being a revolver, the other being SA & having a barrel that's almost twice is long than an average snub nose. Sharing a similar round capacity doesn't mean they share the same market.
You're already back pedaling about it being used at distances. And if it can be used at distances, a light and/or laser is justifiable.
The 43 is no different than any other other 9mm Glock, other than it being more compact. These are carry guns, if a light/laser can be used on a G19 or G26 or M&P Shield, or anything else for that matter, it can be used on the 43.
BTW, your reasoning for saying why there isn't a huge market for lights on "snub noses" is ridiculous. There's grip lasers for many models, which kills your "gut buster" only theory. The design isn't exactly conducive for mounting WMLs, which is why people who carry "snub nose revolvers" have been known to use handheld lights.
i'm not saying that the gun is not worthy of being carried. i'm comparing it to a snub nose revolver, which has to be the market the g43 is in. there isn't a huge market for lights on snub nose revolvers is there? the case for gut busters and boot guns is that you use them as the last ditch. if you're already being attacked, you shoot. there's no need for target identification because it's clear and close. if you have it as a backup gun and your primary went down or was taken from you, the threat is close and identified.
i wouldn't use this gun to go looking for trouble. if there were a dark place with unknowns, i wouldn't go in with the g43, i also don't think that's what this gun was made for.
for your specific scenario of putting down a deer in the dark, does the light really have to be on your gun? that's a non emergent situation. you could accomplish that with a headlamp and the gun and every car should have a head lamp in it.
my argument is for all the emergent situations that this gun would legitimately be the most useful tool, lighting is a smaller factor.
for real work, this gun can't be a primary use choice. this gun is the other option.
i'm a little confused with these products. the glock 43 has a magazine capacity of less than a 1911 (as if that were possible). it would appear the primary use for this gun is immediate defense, a gut buster if you will (although revolvers are better for actual gut insertion and discharge without possibility of jamming).
that being the case, why does this type of gun need a light or laser? i would never go hunting or searching for trouble if all i had was a g43.
i'm not saying that the gun is not worthy of being carried. i'm comparing it to a snub nose revolver, which has to be the market the g43 is in. there isn't a huge market for lights on snub nose revolvers is there? the case for gut busters and boot guns is that you use them as the last ditch. if you're already being attacked, you shoot. there's no need for target identification because it's clear and close. if you have it as a backup gun and your primary went down or was taken from you, the threat is close and identified.
i wouldn't use this gun to go looking for trouble. if there were a dark place with unknowns, i wouldn't go in with the g43, i also don't think that's what this gun was made for.
for your specific scenario of putting down a deer in the dark, does the light really have to be on your gun? that's a non emergent situation. you could accomplish that with a headlamp and the gun and every car should have a head lamp in it.
my argument is for all the emergent situations that this gun would legitimately be the most useful tool, lighting is a smaller factor.
for real work, this gun can't be a primary use choice. this gun is the other option.
i'm not saying it's not accurate. that was not at all my point with all the factors i cited. it is similar to a snub nosed revolver (also not inaccurate at extended distances). what i'm saying is the primary use of such a gun precludes the use of a light. there's very few scenarios where a light and laser would be necessary for the primary use of this weapon.
my viewpoint is as narrow as i defined it and you have actually not yet presented anything that suggests the g43 is not in the snub nosed revolver category of use. this is not a derringer in 25 acp, that's not a snub nosed revolver. this is not about me getting one of these. if i had a use for such a weapon i would already have one. if i had one, i would not be getting a light for it.
let me paint you a picture. in a theater shooting scenario, you would not want to use a light. the threat has already identified himself. there is no need to light him for identification. all lighting does it identify you as his problem that deserves all his attention. yes, there will be muzzle flashes when you pop off at him, but that's a lot more subtle than 150 lumens before you start engaging.
First, there are lights available for J-frames,
Hyskore grip light:
http://www.amazon.com/Hyskore-J-Frame-Tactical-Light-Black/dp/B00V72R52G
Lasermax:
http://www.amazon.com/LaserMax-CenterFire-Weapon-J-Frame-Models/dp/B00U6AM6LA/ref=pd_sbs_200_10?ie=UTF8&dpID=41XCOpz8%2BEL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR94%2C160_&refRID=0P9XM6T68982DGJ61ZHT
Here is a thread on the Lasermax:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?170329-VERY-interesting-J-frame-development-Lasermax-integral-flashlight
Believe it or not there are situations where a full size pistol with a WML like a G19 w/Surefire X300 for example, aren't going to be carry options. It just depends on where you're going and how you are dressed that dictate what you can get away with carrying and how you can carry it.
The primary use of these weapons is self defense, they are not meant to, as you say, "go looking for trouble". You never know what situation life might put you in but you'll have to play the hand you're dealt. Nothing wrong with having a few cards up your sleeves to try and cheat your way out though, no?
If you can't understand the benefits of a WML for a self defense pistol, especially one that doesn't take up excess space on the end of the gun, then we merry band of gents can't help you. For ~ $100 you get a 100 lumen white light with a laser all in a package that doesn't stick out past the muzzle nor is it wider than the pistol and it fits in a space that already has to be accounted for in the mold of your holster.
However for me the biggest benefit of these lights will come if I am ever told to raise my right hand and then asked "Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?"
Now since you've stated you have no interest in these WMLs or the guns they go on and can't see the benefits they have to offer you have saved yourself ~ $600, congratulations. Now please find a different thread to take a shit in because you've already filled this one up.
Got the TLR-6 for my Shield last week and I'm waiting on a holster for it from Dara Holsters (lead time 3-5 weeks). I must say the throw and spill are impressive for such a small light.
Dvor has them on sale right now. I've also got $20 credit coming so I was thinking of picking one up. The holster was my hang up. I'll have to check yours out.
I sighted one in on a G43 awhile back. They're nice units.
HardToHandle
06-07-16, 22:29
Got the TLR-6 for my Shield last week and I'm waiting on a holster for it from Dara Holsters (lead time 3-5 weeks). I must say the throw and spill are impressive for such a small light.
I ordered from Warrior Concealment and recieved a TLR6 holster in 10 days. I was impressed with the holster quality at the price point. Very concealable.
Dvor has them on sale right now. I've also got $20 credit coming so I was thinking of picking one up. The holster was my hang up. I'll have to check yours out.
I sighted one in on a G43 awhile back. They're nice units.
I got a $50 gift card to Amazon for test driving a Camaro so I used that towards it. Win-Win, right?
I got it from these guys on Amazon for $98.99 w/free shipping and no tax. I got it pretty quick for not being on Prime (I think it came in 2 days)
https://www.amazon.com/Streamlight-69273-Shield-Lithium-Batteries/dp/B0188YF8KQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1465389477&sr=8-3&keywords=Streamlight+TLR6
I ordered from Warrior Concealment and recieved a TLR6 holster in 10 days. I was impressed with the holster quality at the price point. Very concealable.
$50 is not bad at all. Wish I had seen them before I ordered. The one from Dara Holsters with shipping and an extra J-hook was $82.98
Got the TLR-6 for my Shield last week and I'm waiting on a holster for it from Dara Holsters (lead time 3-5 weeks). I must say the throw and spill are impressive for such a small light.
Dvor has them on sale right now. I've also got $20 credit coming so I was thinking of picking one up. The holster was my hang up. I'll have to check yours out.
I sighted one in on a G43 awhile back. They're nice units.
So I've had my holster and have been carrying my Shield with TLR-6 for about a month now. The holster is a nice piece. It seemed too tight at first but when I put it on my belt I had no problems drawing my gun. My only gripe is the body shield part of the holster could stand some trimming near the grip because it feels like it throws off my hand placement from time to time.
If you haven't taken the plunge yet Ryno I recommend you do.
If you haven't taken the plunge yet Ryno I recommend you do.
I haven't yet but yes, I need to get one.
I've been looking at getting this light /laser combo for my Glock 43 mainly for the benefit of a light. Only thing that has held me back is I'll need to get more holsters to accommodate the TLR6.
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