Surefire SOCOM 300 SPS

[JPB]

So I bought one of these cans. Looking at the manual, which is a SOCOM 556/762 manual (not 300 SPS), the only mention I see of barrel length limitations is a non caliber specific reference to the cans only being warrantied on guns with 10" barrels or greater. While I understand this limitation on 5.56 and 7.62x51 guns, the .300 BO, which the can is designed around and for, is ideally suited for 8-9" barrel! Does this limitation only apply the the cans that this specific manual is addressing (SOCOM 556/762)? Does this mean that if I use this can on my Noveske 8.5" 300 BO SBR I'll void my warranty? Every other manufacturer seems to list barrel restrictions per caliber and I thought I had seen a similar data set for this can. Can't find it now. It would seem silly to release a can for this round that isn't rated for the most prolific barrel length.

[domestique]

I'm sure Kudu (Garin from SF) will step in, but I'm willing to bet that is referring to 5.56.

I believe the 300 SPS is rated to 8", maybe 7". The SF promo video has Barry shooting the Genesis (direct thread version of the 300 SPS) on either a 7" or 8" barrel under a not in production LMT handguard.


ETA: I really hope LMT releases that handguard at Shot Show 2016. It would serve excellent for a dual purpose SPR length rail, and a 300blk SBR with the suppressor tucked under.


Http://www.recoilweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/SureFire-Genesis-2.jpg

[Sensei]

I just got off the phone with Steve at Surefire. He said that it is best to use barrels no less than 10" but acknowledged that barrels as low as 8" will probably be fine in 300 blk. This only applies to 300 blk and not any other caliber. He also acknowledged that Surefire has done no durability testing in 300 blk using sub-10" barrels, nor is Surefire going to confront this question on a more public basis. The concern is an increased number of baffle strikes from people send barrels off for after-market chop jobs to lengths less than 8". He said there should be no warranty issues should you go down to 8" in 300 blk.

[domestique]

I just got off the phone with Steve at Surefire. He said that it is best to use barrels no less than 10" but acknowledged that barrels as low as 8" will probably be fine in 300 blk. This only applies to 300 blk and not any other caliber. He also acknowledged that Surefire has done no durability testing in 300 blk using sub-10" barrels, nor is Surefire going to confront this question on a more public basis. The concern is an increased number of baffle strikes from people send barrels off for after-market chop jobs to lengths less than 8". He said there should be no warranty issues should you go down to 8" in 300 blk.

I have no fears using my factory AAC 9", especially since they tested the 300 SPS on a16" 300 win mag.





Here is the data you guys were wanting.

SOCOM300-SPS
20.3 oz
8.0"
1.5" dia
MSRP $1075

5.56 16" Mk262 134dB
300 10" 208gr 120dB
.308 24" 175gr SMK 129dB
300 WM 16" Mk248 137dB...Yep a 16" 300WM

[JPB]

Thanks guys. Not really happy with what I'm hearing. It's a poorly written constraint. I guess they're saying that the 300 SPS is .300 WM rated and the barrel length limitation in the manual is 10", I suppose I'm well within my warrantee rights to put it on a 10" .300 WM. Maybe I'll skip the 13" SCAR 17 barrel all together and get the 10" one! This is one tough can, I won't worry about 8.5"/300 BO subs at all.

My Saker762 is only rated down to 12"/7.62 and it's full stellite! Seems to me it would be in SF's best interest to flesh out the "corner of the envelope" cases rather than just throwing a blanket 10" limit out there (though that limit might be adequate for the military). Especially on a can catering to this specialized of an application.

Barrel induced instabilities causing baffle strikes shouldn't be a warrantee issue at all. That's a bad barrel. It may be that the can imparts some instabilities due to the asymmetry of the baffle orifices.

[domestique]

I won't speak for Sensei, but I don't think they were taking about 10" 308 and 300 win mag barrel lengths.

I'll send Kudu22 a PM and hopefully he can shed some light on this thread. I would be shocked if SF warrantees 300 win mag at 10".

[JPB]

I won't speak for Sensei, but I don't think they were taking about 10" 308 and 300 win mag barrel lengths.

I'll send Kudu22 a PM and hopefully he can shed some light on this thread. I would be shocked if SF warrantees 300 win mag at 10".

I would be shocked too. Little bit of sarcasm in my post, but that's kinda my point.

A can that's rated for multiple calibers should have min barrel lengths for each caliber, not just a blanket rating regardless of caliber.

[Sensei]

Just to be clear, I only discussed 300 blk in the context of sub-10" barrels. I never asked Steve about 300 win mag. In addition, Steve did say that we should be fine going down to 8" in 300 blk.

[Kudu22]

On the SPS and Genesis you can use it as short as you want on 300 BO, 10" on 5.56, 18" on .308 and 22" on 300 WM. FA with 300 BO is no issue but it is not designed for mag after mag after mag dumps with 5.56 or .308.

[domestique]

On the SPS and Genesis you can use it as short as you want on 300 BO, 10" on 5.56, 18" on .308 and 22" on 300 WM. FA with 300 BO is no issue but it is not designed for mag after mag after mag dumps with 5.56 or .308.

Thanks Garin. I'm a little surprised it's only rated to 18" with 7.62x51, I was hoping for 16". That makes me question my buddies AAC Cyclone that he uses on a 16" AR10.



Thanks again Garin. I appreciate the industry presence.

[DreadPirateMoyer]

Thanks Garin. I'm a little surprised it's only rated to 18" with 7.62x51, I was hoping for 16". That makes me question my buddies AAC Cyclone that he uses on a 16" AR10.



Thanks again Garin. I appreciate the industry presence.

Dang, me too on the 16" .308! Was hoping to use this on a .300BLK SBR and an SR-25 ACC.

[JPB]

On the SPS and Genesis you can use it as short as you want on 300 BO, 10" on 5.56, 18" on .308 and 22" on 300 WM. FA with 300 BO is no issue but it is not designed for mag after mag after mag dumps with 5.56 or .308.

Thanks for the response.

[CRNA]

I wish Surefire was more clear about this information from the start and not so secretive all the time. I'm also surprised by the 18 inch barrel for 308. I guess I assumed they would have built this product to almost the same standards as their other models. I was hoping to throw this on my 308 since it seems to be quieter than my socom rc.

[CRNA]

Also why were decible numbers posted for 300 win mag on a 16 inch barrel if this were the case

[domestique]

On the SPS and Genesis you can use it as short as you want on 300 BO, 10" on 5.56, 18" on .308 and 22" on 300 WM. FA with 300 BO is no issue but it is not designed for mag after mag after mag dumps with 5.56 or .308.




From 2/9/2015

www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?164970-Any-info-on-Surefire-Socom-300/page2

Here is the data you guys were wanting.

SOCOM300-SPS
20.3 oz
8.0"
1.5" dia
MSRP $1075

5.56 16" Mk262 134dB
300 10" 208gr 120dB
.308 24" 175gr SMK 129dB
300 WM 16" Mk248 137dB...Yep a 16" 300WM



Personally, I would rather have paid 400 dollars more for the full inconel suppressor. I already have a SOCOM762-RC for use on my 16" 308, and plan on dedicating the 300 SPS to my 9" 300blk SBR. But from Kudu's post back in February, I assumed that it was rated to 16" 308, since he put test data for a 16" 300WM.

Not upset, just find it odd.

[JPB]

I wish Surefire was more clear about this information from the start and not so secretive all the time. I'm also surprised by the 18 inch barrel for 308. I guess I assumed they would have built this product to almost the same standards as their other models. I was hoping to throw this on my 308 since it seems to be quieter than my socom rc.

Yeah, SF probably shouldn't have marketed it as a multi-cal can. They have that ad stating that it is the "quietest .30 cal can in the world". Once you announce it as a .30 cal can capable all the way to 300 WM, you place it squarely in the market place with Omega, Sandman, Saker, Razor, Surge, and a host of other cans that are far more capable and feature rich, at either the same or a lower price (with muzzle device).

I too had intended on also putting it on a SCAR 17 with both 16" and 13" barrels. Seems like this day and age, you can't throw a rock without hitting a 16" 7.62mm. I guess the Saker has a permanent home on that.

I am relieved that it can go down to 8" on 300 BLK. The name (SOCOM 300 SPS) would seem to suggest that they intended it to be a 300 BLK can primarily. I can live with it if I tell myself that I bought the world's most advanced badass 300 BLK can. I'll regret my purchase if I view it as a multi cal .30 can. I choose to think of it as the latter and believe that it would lend to more realistic market place expectations management if it were marketed as such.

[CRNA]

Only good thing for me is that I have a Larue predatobr with an 18 inch and 16 inch barrel so I can try it out.

[CRNA]

I got my stamp in for this can however I havnt tried it out yet. I called Surefire. Spoke to a guy named Chris. He asked somebody there and he said the minimal barrel lengths are 8.5 for 300. 10.5 for 556 and 12 inch for 308. I recommended to them that they need to put more specifics out abouth this particular can since its been such a mystery all this time. He agreed but we will see. He did say to avoid a lot of rapid fire with 556 and 308.

[domestique]

I got my stamp in for this can however I havnt tried it out yet. I called Surefire. Spoke to a guy named Chris. He asked somebody there and he said the minimal barrel lengths are 8.5 for 300. 10.5 for 556 and 12 inch for 308. I recommended to them that they need to put more specifics out abouth this particular can since its been such a mystery all this time. He agreed but we will see. He did say to avoid a lot of rapid fire with 556 and 308.

That's interesting, as Kudu22 (Garin from Surefire) stated it was only rated to 18" on 308.


ETA: do you have a 300 blackout to test it on. My 300SPS is still in ATF purgatory for another 3+ months and would love to get a review on how it sounds with subs.

[CRNA]

I'm going to try it out Sunday hopefully. I have a 10.5 inch blackout. I need to change the muzzle device because I have a sdn6 on there currently. I'll make sure to report back. I'm going to call again in the morning because I really want to know for sure. The guy I spoke with had to go ask somebody.

[CRNA]

Took me 3 days to get somebody back on the phone at Surefire but he reconfirmed the 12 inch minimum barrel length for 308. I didn't get his name but he said he was the technical supervisor.

[CRNA]

I shot the sps today on my 10.5 inch blackout and 10.5 inch 556. I am comparing the sound to my AAC sdn6. I thought it was definitely quieter with subsonic and super. It was not unpleasant to shoot it with supers. I found it was slightly unpleasant for me to shoot my AAC with supers.

I placed it on my 556. It was definitely quieter than my socom rc 762 on the 556. However I'm not sure I would want to shoot it all the time without hearing protection with 556. Sorry I don't have any video.

I havnt been around an omega or other cans so can't compare it to those. I think it's definately impressive though

[domestique]

Thank your for the review. I still have a couple months for my 300 SPS to escape purgatory.

[Randall]

I wish I had one in purgatory. All the LGS around me are all backordered for the 300 SPS with no idea on the wait time.

[domestique]

I wish I had one in purgatory. All the LGS around me are all backordered for the 300 SPS with no idea on the wait time.

Check with silencer shop. I was able to backorder one, and it still took 1.5 months for it to come in. All the backorders were all accounted for. They will also submit your form 4 two weeks after your form 3 is submitted. That will save you some time, and give you until June to still make it within the 41F ruling.

[Blackhalo]

Mine is in jail as well for another few months. It will be going on my precision bolts gun(.308 and 6.5 creed) with some 5.56 AR use, seems to be a solid all around can.

Thanks for the quick review.

[Pinmonkey05]

Anyone else have first hand experience with this can?

[JPB]

Nah, kinda like the Ryder 9Ti, everyone is in "hurry up and wait" mode

[domestique]

I'm a good 2 to 3 months yet to go until mine clears. I've heard nothing but good things from people, but I don't think there are many out in the wild. I check youtube every week for videos, and haven't seen anything new in a couple months.

[JPB]

I can shoot mine in the in-door range at the dealer that I bought it from. I'm not sure how beneficial that would be though. I'll probably just wait. I've got a few months too. Same story with the Ryder 9Ti.

[Pinmonkey05]

Is there any new info on this can?

[domestique]

Nothing new that I've found. I troll youtube every week looking for new user videos.

I should have mine in less then 2 months, and will compare it to a SOCOM762-RC, Saker 7.62, and an Omega 30.

[Trunkmonkey4]

I don't have any videos of mine but I've got atleast 500 rounds on the books thus far. Ive shot it on 10.5 556 MG, 11.5in 556, 18in bolt 308, 16in gas 308, and 10.5 300blk. It has proven to be a good choice for a do it all can.

Ive shot it next to one of dead-airs suppressors on matching 556 uppers and the surefire was noticeably better sounding. As will all cans I doubt you can pick up on true decibels but it has a better tone. Blows a SDN6 out of the water in all sorts of ways.

[VelveteenMole]

Do you know how's the felt recoil and gas blowback on the 5.56 and 308 gassers compared to SOCOM RC cans? What about the Dead-Air in those regards?


I don't have any videos of mine but I've got atleast 500 rounds on the books thus far. Ive shot it on 10.5 556 MG, 11.5in 556, 18in bolt 308, 16in gas 308, and 10.5 300blk. It has proven to be a good choice for a do it all can.

Ive shot it next to one of dead-airs suppressors on matching 556 uppers and the surefire was noticeably better sounding. As will all cans I doubt you can pick up on true decibels but it has a better tone. Blows a SDN6 out of the water in all sorts of ways.

[Trunkmonkey4]

Ive shot it along with a 7.62 mini, 556 mini and a 556 rc. Cant speak on recoil, lots of variables, the length and weight of each suppressor and then each rifle. My 11.5 it has the same recoil as any other suppressor its had mounted. The 308 we've shot it on is a LMT MWS so that heavy pig eats most of the recoil, although unsuppressed it does kick. Gas blow back is not too bad, on our MG it is rough, especially if the gun is freshly lubed. I would still prefer a dedicated 556 can for my 11.5 but for one suppressor to fill multiple rolls I think it will do just fine.

I did not shoot the dead air, I just shot next to it.

Not much help, sorry.

[VelveteenMole]

Ive shot it along with a 7.62 mini, 556 mini and a 556 rc. Cant speak on recoil, lots of variables, the length and weight of each suppressor and then each rifle. My 11.5 it has the same recoil as any other suppressor its had mounted. The 308 we've shot it on is a LMT MWS so that heavy pig eats most of the recoil, although unsuppressed it does kick. Gas blow back is not too bad, on our MG it is rough, especially if the gun is freshly lubed. I would still prefer a dedicated 556 can for my 11.5 but for one suppressor to fill multiple rolls I think it will do just fine.

I did not shoot the dead air, I just shot next to it.

Not much help, sorry.

If you shot both the 7.62 mini and 300SPS on the LMT, disregarding the reasons why, did you notice any or much difference in blowback? Just trying to get a reference point. Did the SPS sound any quieter (or louder) to the shooter?

[Blackhalo]

Ive shot it along with a 7.62 mini, 556 mini and a 556 rc. Cant speak on recoil, lots of variables, the length and weight of each suppressor and then each rifle. My 11.5 it has the same recoil as any other suppressor its had mounted. The 308 we've shot it on is a LMT MWS so that heavy pig eats most of the recoil, although unsuppressed it does kick. Gas blow back is not too bad, on our MG it is rough, especially if the gun is freshly lubed. I would still prefer a dedicated 556 can for my 11.5 but for one suppressor to fill multiple rolls I think it will do just fine.

I did not shoot the dead air, I just shot next to it.

Not much help, sorry.

Thanks for the help, I've got one in jail. I also have a 7.62 mini that has been my do it all can, mainly used on my 11.5" AR. Though I have a specwar K coming for that. Bought my 300 sps mainly for my bolt guns .308/6.5, but it'll be nice to try it out on the AR's that still have the mounts on them.

[Trunkmonkey4]

If you shot both the 7.62 mini and 300SPS on the LMT, disregarding the reasons why, did you notice any or much difference in blowback? Just trying to get a reference point. Did the SPS sound any quieter (or louder) to the shooter?
Just shot the mws with the 300sps. The 300sps is quieter than the mini, shouldn't be much of a surprise though the can is bigger.

blackhalo, you should do well with those two guns, Ive heard that the 6.5 can be alittle picky with the newer socom style suppressors(something with the mount, there's a slight gap that causes the pressure to slap the bullet alittle)

[Co-gnARR]

Just shot the mws with the 300sps. The 300sps is quieter than the mini, shouldn't be much of a surprise though the can is bigger.

blackhalo, you should do well with those two guns, Ive heard that the 6.5 can be alittle picky with the newer socom style suppressors(something with the mount, there's a slight gap that causes the pressure to slap the bullet alittle)

Regarding the slap...is that dependent the muzzle velocity of the round as it passes through the can? Does this affect accuracy at all?
Just wondering if the 6.8 mounts and/or 6.8 suppressor would be a better choice for the 6.5 rounds.

[Trunkmonkey4]

I am not sure of the specifics behind it, but that info was passed down to me from a VERY reputable bolt gun builder in the area. Next time I see him I will ask for some further explanation.

[MegademiC]

Am I the only one hoping they make a 300 sps mini? I'd like a do-it all socom can, but the sps is too long and the 762 mini performance reports are pushing me to buy 2 different cans (556 mini and something for 308/300blk.)

[domestique]

Am I the only one hoping they make a 300 sps mini? I'd like a do-it all socom can, but the sps is too long and the 762 mini performance reports are pushing me to buy 2 different cans (556 mini and something for 308/300blk.)



I've been saying that since they announced the 300 SPS. A 6" can that meters around 27 decibels with 300blk subs, but still has all of Surefire's benefits (bombproof mount, low flash, minimal blowback) would be awesome. I would want it to be rated to the same level of durability as the SOCOM762-RC however (all inconel baffle stack). It would be prefect for 308 SBRs, 300blk, and 5.56 SBRs.

Since SF will never make this.... I bought a SiCo Omega, and will run it direct thread and with the flat endcap.

A Saker 762 Mini would also fit my requirements.

[domestique]

Just shot the mws with the 300sps. The 300sps is quieter than the mini, shouldn't be much of a surprise though the can is bigger.

blackhalo, you should do well with those two guns, Ive heard that the 6.5 can be alittle picky with the newer socom style suppressors(something with the mount, there's a slight gap that causes the pressure to slap the bullet alittle)


Regarding the slap...is that dependent the muzzle velocity of the round as it passes through the can? Does this affect accuracy at all?
Just wondering if the 6.8 mounts and/or 6.8 suppressor would be a better choice for the 6.5 rounds.

I have no issuses with my SOCOM762-RC and my 6.5CM on my LMT LM8MWS. It shoots sub MOA with my handloads, and has gone out past 1,100 yards.

[Blackhalo]

Honestly I would have bought a rugged razor instead of the sps if I could do it again. I bought the SF since I already had the socom mounts. But, still think I'm going to grab a razor.

And yeah, I've shot my 7.62 mini on my 6.5CM with no change, except a small repeatable shift.

[plinkerr]

Received the stamp for mine this afternoon. Looks like I'll have to wait until the weekend to give it a whirl. Unfortunately no 300blk this weekend though, just a 20" .308 and a few 5.56 AR's with a variety of barrel lengths. I'll let you know what I think, maybe a video if my friend brings his uber camera.

[Boba Fett v2]

Might have already been discussed, but for those who have this can, what POI shifts are we seeing running .300 BLK subs and supers through it?

[Pinmonkey05]

Received the stamp for mine this afternoon. Looks like I'll have to wait until the weekend to give it a whirl. Unfortunately no 300blk this weekend though, just a 20" .308 and a few 5.56 AR's with a variety of barrel lengths. I'll let you know what I think, maybe a video if my friend brings his uber camera.

Surely he will deliver...

[plinkerr]

Surely he will deliver...

Haha I always do ;) Unfortunately I had to wait an extra week because of work but I got out there this past weekend for a couple hours to give it a whirl. First impressions are that it sounds amazing on my 20" .308 bolt gun with all the ammo I tried, not uncomfortable at all to shoot without hearing protection even though I typically still wear it anyways. Because the weekend that I was planning on shooting changed so did the guns that would be available and the only 5.56 that I got to try it out on was a 10.3" DD upper. It was loud as crap on that upper with the .223 55gr Wolf Gold that I had with me, I shot it once without hearing protection just to see and that was a mistake, lost hearing for a sec then some bells ringing. Very loud, much louder than the other ~10.5" AR's that I've shot with 5.56 RC's attached. On that note, my 5.56 RC2 should get approved any day now, I'll post back after I shoot it just to compare the two on the same exact setup/day etc.

[Sensei]

Ok, took mine out to the range with a 556-RC2. The rifle was a 10" SCAR 16S CQC. Muzzle device was a Warcomp. Ammo was a mix of LC M193 ball and Hornady 75 grain TAP SBR.

I was not impressed with its 5.56mm performance. GTF was VERY pronounced. It was like going to the optometrist and having your ocular pressures check with that machine that blows in your eye. Eye pro helps a little but I had to fight the blink reflex. This was much worse than what I experienced with the 556-RC2 on a 10.5" LMT MRP upper. It was also much worse than my KAC QDC on a 14.5" SCAR 16S that I shot that day. Unfortunately, I did not get a chance to put the 556-RC2 on the 10" SCAR to see if the GTF would improve; the cans were too hot to change because I left my oven mitt at home.

Sound suppression was indistinguishable from the 556-RC2; your ears will ring a little if you shoot without ear pro. No failures. Bolt locked back on every round. I did not get a chance to test POI shift because the suppressor was too hot to remove.

Lock-up was just like my RC2 and every other RC that I've handled.

I have an Omega and a 762-RC2 in jail. I'm curious to see how they compare. I will also head back to the range next weekend and see if the 556-RC2 is an improvement. I'll also try the 300SPS on my 16" SCAR 17s and 16" LMT MWS to see if the GTF is better on a longer barrel or DI gun.

I have a 9" BCM 300blk built and a 9" MCX 300blk Kit on order. So far, I'm not sure if I'll go with the 300SPS or wait for the Omega to clear the ATF. If the 300SPS continues to suck I'll just stick with the Omega and use the 300SPS as a back-up for the 762-RC2 that is in jail.

[JPB]

I'm still waiting for mine, so keep that in mind here. I really think that SF might have gotten in front of themselves by marketing the 300 SPS as a "multi cal" .30 cal can. Based on what I've read/heard its a "Special Purpose Suppressor" optimized for 300 Blk. I think it should have been marketed more strongly in that regard rather than as a multi cal can.

[VelveteenMole]

Ok, took mine out to the range with a 556-RC2. The rifle was a 10" SCAR 16S CQC. Muzzle device was a Warcomp. Ammo was a mix of LC M193 ball and Hornady 75 grain TAP SBR.

I was not impressed with its 5.56mm performance. GTF was VERY pronounced. It was like going to the optometrist and having your ocular pressures check with that machine that blows in your eye. Eye pro helps a little but I had to fight the blink reflex. This was much worse than what I experienced with the 556-RC2 on a 10.5" LMT MRP upper. It was also much worse than my KAC QDC on a 14.5" SCAR 16S that I shot that day. Unfortunately, I did not get a chance to put the 556-RC2 on the 10" SCAR to see if the GTF would improve; the cans were too hot to change because I left my oven mitt at home.

Sound suppression was indistinguishable from the 556-RC2; your ears will ring a little if you shoot without ear pro. No failures. Bolt locked back on every round. I did not get a chance to test POI shift because the suppressor was too hot to remove.

Lock-up was just like my RC2 and every other RC that I've handled.

I have an Omega and a 762-RC2 in jail. I'm curious to see how they compare. I will also head back to the range next weekend and see if the 556-RC2 is an improvement. I'll also try the 300SPS on my 16" SCAR 17s and 16" LMT MWS to see if the GTF is better on a longer barrel or DI gun.

I have a 9" BCM 300blk built and a 9" MCX 300blk Kit on order. So far, I'm not sure if I'll go with the 300SPS or wait for the Omega to clear the ATF. If the 300SPS continues to suck I'll just stick with the Omega and use the 300SPS as a back-up for the 762-RC2 that is in jail.

Thanks, good info!

[domestique]

Ok, took mine out to the range with a 556-RC2. The rifle was a 10" SCAR 16S CQC. Muzzle device was a Warcomp. Ammo was a mix of LC M193 ball and Hornady 75 grain TAP SBR.

I was not impressed with its 5.56mm performance. GTF was VERY pronounced. It was like going to the optometrist and having your ocular pressures check with that machine that blows in your eye. Eye pro helps a little but I had to fight the blink reflex. This was much worse than what I experienced with the 556-RC2 on a 10.5" LMT MRP upper. It was also much worse than my KAC QDC on a 14.5" SCAR 16S that I shot that day. Unfortunately, I did not get a chance to put the 556-RC2 on the 10" SCAR to see if the GTF would improve; the cans were too hot to change because I left my oven mitt at home.

Sound suppression was indistinguishable from the 556-RC2; your ears will ring a little if you shoot without ear pro. No failures. Bolt locked back on every round. I did not get a chance to test POI shift because the suppressor was too hot to remove.

Lock-up was just like my RC2 and every other RC that I've handled.

I have an Omega and a 762-RC2 in jail. I'm curious to see how they compare. I will also head back to the range next weekend and see if the 556-RC2 is an improvement. I'll also try the 300SPS on my 16" SCAR 17s and 16" LMT MWS to see if the GTF is better on a longer barrel or DI gun.

I have a 9" BCM 300blk built and a 9" MCX 300blk Kit on order. So far, I'm not sure if I'll go with the 300SPS or wait for the Omega to clear the ATF. If the 300SPS continues to suck I'll just stick with the Omega and use the 300SPS as a back-up for the 762-RC2 that is in jail.

Has SF ever officially came out and said the 300sps was GTG on a 16" 308? Kudu22 (Garin) said 18". But then another member called SF and was told 16".

Another month and I'll be able to compare my 300 SPS to my 5.56-RC, 762-RC, Omega and Saker. The 300 SPS will live 95% of the time on a 9" AAC 300blk upper, so I'm not too worried about how it sounds with other calibers.

[Sensei]

Has SF ever officially came out and said the 300sps was GTG on a 16" 308? Kudu22 (Garin) said 18". But then another member called SF and was told 16".

Another month and I'll be able to compare my 300 SPS to my 5.56-RC, 762-RC, Omega and Saker. The 300 SPS will live 95% of the time on a 9" AAC 300blk upper, so I'm not too worried about how it sounds with other calibers.

Officially, I'm not aware of any announcements. The instruction pamphlet that can with my can is the generic "SOCOM" mounting instructions. The warranty one the back page specifies that barrel lengths down to 10" will be covered with no distinction for caliber. Thus, I'm more than comfortable shooting it on a 16" 308.

[english kanigit]

I saw a report elsewhere that the SPS was noticeably more quiet than the 762 RC on a 16" 308 platforms but that it also exhibited greater flash under NV. Has anyone here had similar experiences that they can expound upon?

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[domestique]

I saw a report elsewhere that the SPS was noticeably more quiet than the 762 RC on a 16" 308 platforms but that it also exhibited greater flash under NV. Has anyone here had similar experiences that they can expound upon?

Ek


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Still waiting on my 300 SPS. But will be able to compare both of them pretty soon (I have a Gen 1 SOCOM762-RC).


Those results are what I would expect. The 762-RC was designed for military use with low flash under NV taking a higher priority to db reduction. The SPS is for the civilian market, and is the quietest 30 caliber supressor SF has ever made.

[Jwknutson17]

Still waiting on my 300 SPS. But will be able to compare both of them pretty soon (I have a Gen 1 SOCOM762-RC).


Those results are what I would expect. The 762-RC was designed for military use with low flash under NV taking a higher priority to db reduction. The SPS is for the civilian market, and is the quietest 30 caliber supressor SF has ever made.

Did you ever get your SPS? I was debating one, or RC-2, but the 16 inch 308 SPS thing that I don't have an answer too still bothers me..

[VelveteenMole]

Has anyone run a 762 mini or mini 2 on a 6.5 creedmoor and/or grendel, I'd be curious about the RC as well?

[domestique]

Did you ever get your SPS? I was debating one, or RC-2, but the 16 inch 308 SPS thing that I don't have an answer too still bothers me..

No, but I'm expecting the call from my dealer any day now (I'm reaching that 150 day mark that my last 2 suppressors took to be approved). IIRC, Garin "kudu22" no longer works for SF... if SF says they will warrant 26", then that's good enough for me.


Has anyone run a 762 mini or mini 2 on a 6.5 creedmoor and/or grendel, I'd be curious about the RC as well?

I have the original 762-rc, and it sounds really good with 6.5CM. I use it on a LMT MWS. it sounds identical to an AAC Cyclone when shot back to back. The Cyclone is an older design, but an inch longer, and is a great sounding suppressor for what it is. The 762-RC just sucks when shot with low pressure subsonic rounds like 300blk.

[Jwknutson17]

No, but I'm expecting the call from my dealer any day now (I'm reaching that 150 day mark that my last 2 suppressors took to be approved). IIRC, Garin "kudu22" no longer works for SF... if SF says they will warrant 26", then that's good enough for me.



Just went ahead and ordered a SPS on SilencerShop. Figured I would give it a go. If anything, Ill just toss it on one of my 300 wm bolt rifle if it disappoints on others.

[JPB]

So my paperwork came back last week and I was able to get the can out to the range on Friday. I will say that sound reduction was very impressive through my 300 Blackout. No noticeable GTF. I don't have anything other than a subjective feel for what I'm hearing, but it did seem quieter than my Saker 762 that did sit on this gun previously. I am shooting an 8.5" Noveske barreled upper that I built utilizing the SF tuning fork FH. Ammo was Rem UMC 220gr OT FB. Zero regrets in buying this can. I haven't tried it on anything other than the 300 Blk and I probably won't. I've got other 30 cal cans for the bigger rounds.

If you bought this can for 300 Blackout, you won't be disappointed.

[MegademiC]

Sorry to bump, but didn't want to start a new thread.

Anyone know if these would work on an ak or is the clearance too tight?

I'm buying a mini556, and want a 2ND can for my 300blk with occasional use on another 556 or ak, and possibly a 308 bolt down the road.

[interfan]

It fits. On the AK muzzle device mounts (I have a Warcomp on a standard AKM) the base protrudes enough from the front sight so there is no clearance problems. On the AK74/AK100 style front end, there is even more clearance with the flash hider mounts. From the sampling of Surefire SOCOM muzzle devices I have, and the others I have seen, the engineering is done right to allow sufficient clearance for whatever host they designed it to fit. AKs aren't the best silencer hosts, but it does work fairly well. I have a 762 mini in jail now, and that was designed around the AK, so I am excited to see how it works in comparison.

[MegademiC]

Thanks, I'm getting a 556mini, and a 308 can eventually, trying to figure out if I should stay with socom or go with a different brand for 308. I was also going to make a 30pblk, but now thinkng just thread the ak.

[PatrioticDisorder]

Thanks, I'm getting a 556mini, and a 308 can eventually, trying to figure out if I should stay with socom or go with a different brand for 308. I was also going to make a 30pblk, but now thinkng just thread the ak.

I think going with 1 mounting system is always a better solution.

[MegademiC]

I think going with 1 mounting system is always a better solution.

After thinking about it, I agree. Hopefully they come out with a short version before I buy.

[MSparks909]

I'm going to assume the 300 SPS is good to go on a 16" .308? Plan to run it on my 9" 300 BLK and on a 16" AR10 and a 16" Ruger GSR. Predominantly on the 300 BLK but it will also see use on both of those .308s.

[A5scott]

I'm going to assume the 300 SPS is good to go on a 16" .308? Plan to run it on my 9" 300 BLK and on a 16" AR10 and a 16" Ruger GSR. Predominantly on the 300 BLK but it will also see use on both of those .308s.

100% gtg on 16" 308. I was told by Gary at silencershop that it's gtg on 12.5" 308.

scott

[MSparks909]

100% gtg on 16" 308. I was told by Gary at silencershop that it's gtg on 12.5" 308.

scott

Awesome!

[Cane55]

Does the 300 SPS have a full inconel baffle stack?

[JPB]

Nope. Blast baffle is Inconel, the rest are SS.

[Jwknutson17]

Finally had a chance to get some time behind the SPS on my 26 inch 300 win mag. It does a great job and is fairly comfortable without ears in a wide open outdoor setting. Probably because of the distance the muzzle is away from me. Couldn't tell much of a difference in sound between the 300 SPS and the TB ultra 7. But I can sure feel the weight. The TB is about half the weight of the SPS. POI was about 1.5 inches low with the SPS and about half inch right. TB was no POI shift.. And for the sake of comparing apples to oranges.. the KAC QDC on my SR25 does need about half an inch of windage and no elevation. Different platform but worth noting. This SPS was going to live on the MWS 308 with 14 inch barrel, but sold the rifle off. Here is a pic of what its on for the time being. Shot about 40 rounds through it from 100 to 726 yards. Forgot to get my suppressor cover on there and after about 6 consecutive rounds the heat mirage was a little rough. Overall it did very well and I am happy with the purchase. If I get a chance to run it on a 300blk I will post some feedback. Ran a few mags of 5.56 though it also.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4321/36255069226_f324a08077_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/XeJGYs)

[Singlestack Wonder]

I received my SOCOM 300 SPS last week. Took it out to the range on the 10.5" sbr and ran both super and sub 300's thru it. With the subs, only a small "poof" (about like an old Daisy BB gun) and the rifle action could be heard. With the supers, the noise level was also very impressive. I too am pleased with this purchase...