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A_shizzle
08-15-08, 01:51
Has anybody had any experience with privi partizan 75gr HPBT Match Ammo ? Its selling for about 8 bucks a box. Thought it might be good to train with for defense ammo instead of shootin up TAP 75gr. My rifle is a carbine 16 in BCM with 1/7 twist.

Warrior
08-15-08, 02:31
It's pretty decent. It's not TAP 5.56 or mk262 or any other premium ammo but it's a notch below, cheap and for combat its comparable to TAP or 262. At 50yds holding the same POA, POI is about the same for all three.

crossgun
08-15-08, 07:56
I think it's really good stuff. In most cases I find that it shoots paper more accurate than TAP out of my SPR and 3 Gunner.

Definetly worth the cost savings IMHO

markm
08-15-08, 08:30
I'd like to grab a few boxes to see the POI shift on my 55 grain zeroed SBR.

Warrior
08-15-08, 17:49
I'd like to grab a few boxes to see the POI shift on my 55 grain zeroed SBR.

I'm curious to this as well. Recoil definatly feel lighter so at longer distances there should be a larger difference, I didn't chrono it but I'm sure it's slower. I'd like to compare it with TAP 5.56 or 262 at longer ranges and would like to see if anyone has done terminal effects testing on it as well.

Parabellum9x19mm
08-18-08, 20:28
next time i go to the range i can shoot some PRVI M193, TAP 55 and PRVI 75 from the same rifle and see if there is a POI shift worth mentioning at 100 yards

also, as others have said, the PRVI 75 is good stuff. on my SPR I was getting 3 inch groups at 300 yards with it. slightly smaller groups with 75 TAP and 77 SMK tho

Parabellum9x19mm
08-31-08, 23:46
ok. so i tried shooting PRVI M193 and PRVI Match .223 75gr out of the same rifle - a 16" Noveske middy

@ 100 yards the POI of the 75 grain was roughly one and a half to two inches higher than the POI of the 55 grain.

not exactly what I was expecting, to be honest. I figured if anything, the heavier stuff would group at either the same, or a lower POI, but that's not the results I got.

Then again, I'm the first to admit that I don't have a sophisticated theoretical understanding of ballistics, so what I expected to see doesn't mean too much. I wonder what the POI shift would be like from different barrel lengths. I could try with 14.5, 18 and 20....I don't have any access to any SBRs tho :(

markm
09-02-08, 08:47
That is interesting. Higher at 100 eh? You tested this with irons right?

I'll have to think about that for a bit.

Parabellum9x19mm
09-02-08, 09:05
Accupoint TR21...there's a tiny possibility it could have been loose, because i had to tighten the Torx screws at one point earlier in the day because they shot loose.

but i shot those test groups after i was sure it was screwed down tight. unless i'm remembering things wrong and getting early onset Alzheimer's

want to try it again next time i hit the range...just to be sure. i'll use irons to eliminate any other variables.

Failure2Stop
09-02-08, 10:38
I haven't done any real accuracy testing with it, but here is my preliminary experience-

Out of my 14.5 LMT it was shooting a little over 1" at 50 yards (outside edge to inside edge, 10 shots with one called flyer 1/2" left of group) from a seated/improvised bag rest through an Aimpoint M3. I changed the position of the M3 just before I tried it out, so it needed to be rezeroed, but it was hitting about 1" low and 1" left from my 50 yd M193 zero, which means pretty much nothing due to the number of variables.

The ammo cycled well (LMT BGC, H buffer, PMags, Weapon Shield), no issues in 100 rounds.

Picked it up from VA Arms for around $9/20 IIRC.
I will use this ammo for tactical-style competitions.

markm
09-02-08, 11:12
Accupoint TR21...there's a tiny possibility it could have been loose, because i had to tighten the Torx screws at one point earlier in the day because they shot loose.

but i shot those test groups after i was sure it was screwed down tight. unless i'm remembering things wrong and getting early onset Alzheimer's

want to try it again next time i hit the range...just to be sure. i'll use irons to eliminate any other variables.

I don't know what that optic is (i'm not much of an optics guru).... but you could definitely cross check your results with irons.

Henchman
09-02-08, 12:48
ok. so i tried shooting PRVI M193 and PRVI Match .223 75gr out of the same rifle - a 16" Noveske middy

@ 100 yards the POI of the 75 grain was roughly one and a half to two inches higher than the POI of the 55 grain.

not exactly what I was expecting, to be honest. I figured if anything, the heavier stuff would group at either the same, or a lower POI, but that's not the results I got.

Then again, I'm the first to admit that I don't have a sophisticated theoretical understanding of ballistics, so what I expected to see doesn't mean too much. I wonder what the POI shift would be like from different barrel lengths. I could try with 14.5, 18 and 20....I don't have any access to any SBRs tho :(

I have had the same results with the PRVI shooting high at 50 yards when the rifle is sighted in for 62 gr ammo. If I remember correctly heavier bullet weights will generally shoot high and lighter weight bullets will shoot low. This would be due to the bullets lower velocity, time in the barrel, and increased recoil for the given cartridge. This is just my opinion as to why the POI is different.