First SBR - Complete AR or just a lower?

[S1dewinder]

I'd like some opinions and suggestions for my first SBR (though a trust). I'm torn between purchasing a complete AR (e.g. DD Mk 18) or purchasing a BCM lower and having it engraved.

If buying a complete rifle, must BATFE be notified if the upper is changed and the resulting overall length changes?

[Lee Indy]

Just buy and engrave a lower. can still shoot it with a 16 while you are waiting. there is a plethora of kick ass uppers available and you could put your own together while you wait.

[S1dewinder]

Just buy and engrave a lower. can still shoot it with a 16 while you are waiting. there is a plethora of kick ass uppers available and you could put your own together while you wait.

So do you have to notify the BATFE each time you switch uppers if the overall length has changed?

[punkey71]

So do you have to notify the BATFE each time you switch uppers if the overall length has changed?

No. Not at all. Put uppers of your choice on it, at will, after approval.


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[Lee Indy]

with mine i gave them the smallest length I could ever assemble. 7in barrel and an overall of 20in. swap to your heart's content.

[S1dewinder]

Thanks for the suggestions.

I was looking at lowers. A thread from 2010 listed Colt, DD, BCM, and Noveske specifically. DD doesn't sell lowers anymore (that I can find at least) and Noveske gen 3 lowers are cerakoted with a different shade of black, so that basically leaves BCM and Colt unless I find a previous Noveske generation...

[Lee Indy]

why not get a psa blem or a anderson on the cheap. there is a thread on here to verify the pin holes when you buy it and SBR that. youll never sell the lower once its SBRd so resale value is moot.

[Eurodriver]

why not get a psa blem or a anderson on the cheap. there is a thread on here to verify the pin holes when you buy it and SBR that. youll never sell the lower once its SBRd so resale value is moot.

If you're going to make an SBR that you can't resell and be pretty much stuck with forever you should probably get something that has higher probability of being in spec than an Anderson or blem PSA.

I have both PSA and Anderson lowers, but I'd never SBR one.

OP, you can find stripped Gen1/2 Noveske chainsaw lowers at Rainier for <$200 delivered.

[Lee Indy]

if its in spec who cares. measure one before you fork over the cash. and verify it runs before you form 1 it. At that point its all roll mark preference. My SBR is on a billet lower that has sentimental value so it wasnt leaving anyway. when i do another one it will be on a less expensive lower.

[A5scott]

You can put just about any upper you want on your SBR lower, but I believe it's important to keep the upper with the length you used on your form 1, otherwise you may need to notify the atf that your SBR is a different length.

for now, I engraved an lwrc 556 lower and a christensen arms 308 lower. I felt that was best for me, though i really wanted an LWRC 10.5" IC, just too heavy, and a bit pricey.

scott

[Lee Indy]

Only reguired to notify of "PERMANENT" change. Since no change to an ar is permanent.....

[MistWolf]

If you're going to make an SBR that you can't resell and be pretty much stuck with forever...
You can sell a lower that's been engraved and registered as an SBR. It's just that it's likely it won't sell for what you've got in it

[S1dewinder]

Thanks, everyone.