Arisaka or Arson Machine?

[6920_enthusiast]

I recently took the plunge into M lok with a Midwest Industries rail. I'm now looking at M lok light mounts and ran into these 2 mounts. Has anyone used these mounts before? Also how will do they fit on the 45 degree sections at the 11-1 o'clock with the Pic rail at the 12 o'clock?

[masenomics]

I would contact Slippers on this forum as he's the owner of Arisaka Defense and could probably help you out, also I would do a search on this forum for both Arisaka and Arson Machine to find more info. on both.

[nova3930]

I haven't used Arson but I've got a few pieces of Arisaka kit and it's very well designed and made. The offset ring mount I have probably wouldn't work at an 11 slot but their inline would probably work perfectly.

[Uprange41]

I recently took the plunge into M lok with a Midwest Industries rail. I'm now looking at M lok light mounts and ran into these 2 mounts. Has anyone used these mounts before? Also how will do they fit on the 45 degree sections at the 11-1 o'clock with the Pic rail at the 12 o'clock?

Directly from Arisaka's site;
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0659/4513/products/arisaka-6_854ac7c2-0921-4b56-8d11-b756522a8475.JPG?v=1443021651
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0659/4513/products/arisaka-6_baff4a02-819a-4940-99ef-9063695b8ac6.JPG?v=1442976252

[TexasAggie2005]

I used the Arson mount, until the Arisaka 1" inline mount came out. The Arson is a sturdier mount overall, but it did not tuck the light close enough to the top picatinny rail to my liking.

Here are a couple pics of the Arson mount, then one of the Arisaka. But nothing real telling. (http://imgur.com/a/ZsYXl)

[Airhasz]

Slippers gives M4C members a discount I believe.:)

[6920_enthusiast]

Does the Arisaka use the same allen wrench on all three screws?

[sadmin]

^Negative

[6920_enthusiast]

That sucks, I was hoping to be able to carry just one allen wrench to add/remove the mount, and light from the mount.

[Uprange41]

Then get a QD light or mount?


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[sadmin]

I think OP wishes to remove the light from the mount as well...I dont think any large knob to do so will allow the light to be run at 11
I have both Arisaka and Arson and both are well made and low pro. In the end though, I went back to Gear Sectors offset.

[6920_enthusiast]

Yeah, I was looking for something where I could easily take the light off the mount such as surefires and the like. Since they can be expensive I was looking at being able to use the same light as my edc as well as attach the light if I decide to use my rifle for hd. If course I will end up eventually buying another light in the future. But at least it will square me away in the sort term.

[themonk]

Yeah, I was looking for something where I could easily take the light off the mount such as surefires and the like. Since they can be expensive I was looking at being able to use the same light as my edc as well as attach the light if I decide to use my rifle for hd. If course I will end up eventually buying another light in the future. But at least it will square me away in the sort term.

I could see moving the mount from rifle to rifle but I don't understand removing the light. When would the rifle wear the light? When you hear a bump in the night you're going to bust out an allen wrench and affix your EDC light to the rifle?

You may want to looking into less expensive lights either for EDC or as a weapon light.

[6920_enthusiast]

I would attach before bed.

[themonk]

I would attach before bed.

No offence, but after having a bunch of light mounts from Arisaka, IWC, magpul, Elzetta I think its going to a be a pain in the ass and you will stop doing it very quickly.

What light are you looking to do this with?

[6920_enthusiast]

I haven't decided that yet, I thought I would do my homework before throwing money around. Currently I only own a Olight m20. But I was going to try to buy a surefire + mount for my next purchase.

[themonk]

IMO I think you are better to split them up. Look at a WML new or used. You should be able to get one around $100.

Another option is the SureFire G2X is a great cheap light that you can definitely run as weapon light. I run one on my AK and can't seem to kill it. Mrgunsngear just posted a review on them:

https://youtu.be/qvDgN9a5NyM

[Uprange41]

I haven't decided that yet, I thought I would do my homework before throwing money around. Currently I only own a Olight m20. But I was going to try to buy a surefire + mount for my next purchase.
Do you have anything specifically against running the light at 12:00, and when you say EDC, do you mean for a gun or as a pocket light?

[6920_enthusiast]

Do you have anything specifically against running the light at 12:00, and when you say EDC, do you mean for a gun or as a pocket light?
A pocket light.

[themonk]

A pocket light.

I am in love with this pelican light - http://amzn.to/1Qb1Xqb

Super small and light. Only 72 lumens though.

[HCM]

Yeah, I was looking for something where I could easily take the light off the mount such as surefires and the like. Since they can be expensive I was looking at being able to use the same light as my edc as well as attach the light if I decide to use my rifle for hd. If course I will end up eventually buying another light in the future. But at least it will square me away in the sort term.

It's possible but highly impractical.

A G2x dedicated to the gun with mount or a Streamlight TLR-1 pistol light at 12 o'clock are both affordable options..

[nova3930]

IMO I think you are better to split them up. Look at a WML new or used. You should be able to get one around $100.

Another option is the SureFire G2X is a great cheap light that you can definitely run as weapon light. I run one on my AK and can't seem to kill it. Mrgunsngear just posted a review on them:

https://youtu.be/qvDgN9a5NyM

I think the g2x will be the better option of the 2. I had a WMLX I wanted to run in an offset at 11. It was way too tight for my liking. The base of the things is just so wide it was too close to the rail.

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[Kenneth]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160212/a2f573d8226ae5bf04a2f5c7b5a0b346.jpg

Mine is ran in the 12 o'clock position and I like it BUT I'll eventually change to a scout type light that is pushed forward in a thorn tail type mount. Use a pressure switch on the hand guard.


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[JoshNC]

Arisaka. No contest.

[6920_enthusiast]

Looking at using my support side thumb for activation. My front sight is all the way to the front of rail. And my support hand is about 3-4 inches from front of rail. I use a vfg for a hand stop, that's why I'm looking for a 9-11 o'clock position to use my thumb to activate.

[Uprange41]

Looking at using my support side thumb for activation. My front sight is all the way to the front of rail. And my support hand is about 3-4 inches from front of rail. I use a vfg for a hand stop, that's why I'm looking for a 9-11 o'clock position to use my thumb to activate.

I've used an Inforce WML at 11 (https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1686/24875671456_c2ffb9afbf_o.jpg), using an HSP Offset, as well as a Surefire G2X (https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1629/24901971135_393d528f2f_o.jpg) in an Arisaka inline ring at the 45 slot on my KMR. (links are to photos of my setup).

No complaints with either, though the Surefire setup was a bit cheaper, and I preferred it to the Inforce setup. Looking at $55 light + $45 mount vs. $120 light and $50 mount, for a light that's as reliable, arguably more durable, and with a better (IMO, it's subjective) beam. Still love the WML, but it is what it is.

So if I were you, I would honestly pick up two Surefire G2X Tacticals, and an Arisaka mount. Mount one Surefire, carry the other. You'll be out $155 for two perfectly serviceable lights.

[EO3]

Arisaka. No contest.

I would have to agree. And, if they do offer a discount to forum members here... I'd be all over that if I were you!

[Brahmzy]

Sorry if already mentioned, but has anybody used their MLOK QD Sling Mount? Is it a quality piece?