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Eurodriver
03-19-16, 08:18
There's an air show this weekend and these flew by. Really neat sight. Felt like I was at Tarawa or something.
http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w521/6234987u02/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsncwpxjgp.jpeg (http://s1328.photobucket.com/user/6234987u02/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsncwpxjgp.jpeg.html)
http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/w521/6234987u02/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps12f6looo.jpeg (http://s1328.photobucket.com/user/6234987u02/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps12f6looo.jpeg.html)
What planes?
Zeroes maybe? hard to tell. Where was this taken? Tell us more about your lady friend/significant other. Just kidding, I'm a pig.
What planes?
Zeroes maybe? hard to tell. Where was this taken? Tell us more about your lady friend/significant other. Just kidding, I'm a pig.
My thoughts exactly.
SomeOtherGuy
03-19-16, 09:10
I can't really see much in the photos, but my guess would be a AT-6 Texan, a WW2 era trainer plane that has remained in use for WW2-like flying experiences. Here's some info:
http://historyflight.com/nw/aircraft_at6texan.php
What I can see in the photos:
-these appear to have round cowlings for a radial engine, but the engine/cowling isn't huge like it would be on a P47 or many other radial-engine combat aircraft of WW2
-they appear to have main landing gear that retracts but isn't fully faired. Most of the combat planes had fully faired landing gear for speed.
-at first I was thinking P51 but I don't see the distinctive bottom scoop or bubble canopy of a P51
-there are three in formation with the same paint style. Most of the remaining WW2 combat aircraft are valuable to the point that you aren't likely to see three at the same time very often, and if you do they will probably have different owners and paint schemes. This is an inference here.
-the shape of the vertical stabilizer seems consistent with a AT-6
-there also appears to be a little bump on the underside of the fuselage at the tail, which would be consistent with the tailwheel of an AT-6 (although also some other planes)
I tried to download and enlarge the photos but my program isn't recognizing their file format for some reason. If you have any more photos you want to post, it might help.
WWII planes are cool I guess...
But hueys in Cav markings blaring Jefferson Airplane with a dude hanging out the side with a 60 flipping people off would've been more cool
lethal dose
03-19-16, 09:56
Looks like a triplet of C5 Galaxys.
I can't really see much in the photos, but my guess would be a AT-6 Texan, a WW2 era trainer plane that has remained in use for WW2-like flying experiences. Here's some info:
http://historyflight.com/nw/aircraft_at6texan.php
What I can see in the photos:
-these appear to have round cowlings for a radial engine, but the engine/cowling isn't huge like it would be on a P47 or many other radial-engine combat aircraft of WW2
-they appear to have main landing gear that retracts but isn't fully faired. Most of the combat planes had fully faired landing gear for speed.
-at first I was thinking P51 but I don't see the distinctive bottom scoop or bubble canopy of a P51
-there are three in formation with the same paint style. Most of the remaining WW2 combat aircraft are valuable to the point that you aren't likely to see three at the same time very often, and if you do they will probably have different owners and paint schemes. This is an inference here.
-the shape of the vertical stabilizer seems consistent with a AT-6
-there also appears to be a little bump on the underside of the fuselage at the tail, which would be consistent with the tailwheel of an AT-6 (although also some other planes)
I tried to download and enlarge the photos but my program isn't recognizing their file format for some reason. If you have any more photos you want to post, it might help.
Agreed, those are Texans. There was a company out of St. Augustine that would let you fly them down the coast. My uncle did it about 10 years ago. They have a camera in the cockpit and on the wings along with people on the ground filming your flight and give you a copy of it. You can't do any real maneuvers but the pilot will do some climbs, dives and rolls. I think it was like $300 for an hour flight.
I don't know if the same people are still doing it out of St. Augustine but I'm sure there are people offering flights in them as they are one of the most common privately owned vintage aircraft.
WWII planes are cool I guess...
But hueys in Cav markings blaring Jefferson Airplane with a dude hanging out the side with a 60 flipping people off would've been more cool
That was not Jefferson Airplane - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKaYOW9zMoY
This would be cooler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InRDF_0lfHk
And for a more somber view of today - a song of yesterday - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntLsElbW9Xo
WWII planes are cool I guess...
But hueys in Cav markings blaring Jefferson Airplane with a dude hanging out the side with a 60 flipping people off would've been more cool
Jimi Hendrix music would be better.
FromMyColdDeadHand
03-19-16, 10:58
At first glance my thought was "Tora, Tora, tora."
Yes, those are AT-6 Texans
I'm going to hell anyways...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw
Hey Euro, are you holding the hat on that girls head?
Averageman
03-19-16, 13:49
Hey Euro, are you holding the hat on that girls head?
I'm hoping so, either that or with Euro's posting history........?
She's got "Man Hands?"
Eurodriver
03-19-16, 16:09
You guys are brutal! She is a skinny girl and has skinny fingers. :ph34r:
After looking at the Texan aircraft, that's definitely what it was.
I always heard stories in WWII of pilots being so low guys on the ground could see them wave. I thought it was BS. But these guys were so low I could see the clothes they were wearing!
What planes?
Zeroes maybe? hard to tell. Where was this taken? Tell us more about your lady friend/significant other. Just kidding, I'm a pig.
I don't think any zeros still exist in flying condition.
I really couldn't care less about the planes.
Do you have any better pics of the foreground? I'd like to see more of the clothes that she was wearing.
Looks like a triplet of C5 Galaxys.
are you sure? I was thinking Antonov
WWII planes are cool I guess...
But hueys in Cav markings blaring Jefferson Airplane with a dude hanging out the side with a 60 flipping people off would've been more cool
That shit is too old school bro. Gotta have GAUs or it ain't cool.
I don't think any zeros still exist in flying condition.
sure there are, in Texas there is a group who maintains two original Kawasaki KI-61's and 2 Mitsubishi Zeros, along with a couple of US aircraft, Corsair, P-51, P-41 and a P-47, they re-enact Pearl Harbor every July 4th by our lake house
I'm hoping so, either that or with Euro's posting history........?
She's got "Man Hands?"
That's where I was going, but, you know, could be someone he was serious about, so I didn't want to be the one to break it to him.
And I think (could be wrong as I usually am) that the Texans are still manufactured.
SomeOtherGuy
03-19-16, 17:58
And I think (could be wrong as I usually am) that the Texans are still manufactured.
I'm not aware that the original radial-engine Texan is still being made, but a completely new and unrelated aircraft, for the same general role, is being made as the "Texan II":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_T-6_Texan_II
The real WWII aircraft buffs will get this:
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160319/cb95e68effcdc066395587e71fbe9c69.jpg
Rayrevolver
03-19-16, 18:33
Thunderbolts and Lightning!
Another easy way to spot Texans/Harvards is the leading edge of the wings are swept and the trailing edge has no sweep. We had a "Tora, Tora, Tora" Zero (which was a Harvard made to look like a Zero for the movie) at my airport.
SomeOtherGuy
03-19-16, 18:44
The real WWII aircraft buffs will get this:
ooo Galileo!!!
sure there are, in Texas there is a group who maintains two original Kawasaki KI-61's and 2 Mitsubishi Zeros, along with a couple of US aircraft, Corsair, P-51, P-41 and a P-47, they re-enact Pearl Harbor every July 4th by our lake house
Those might be the last two.
ooo Galileo!!!
Nicely done.
What planes?
Zeroes maybe? hard to tell. Where was this taken? Tell us more about your lady friend/significant other. Just kidding, I'm a pig.
My first though as well.
The real WWII aircraft buffs will get this:
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2011/12/waynesworldbohemianrhapsody1.jpg
sure there are, in Texas there is a group who maintains two original Kawasaki KI-61's and 2 Mitsubishi Zeros, along with a couple of US aircraft, Corsair, P-51, P-41 and a P-47, they re-enact Pearl Harbor every July 4th by our lake house
Those might be the last two.
Nope one more, the first one owned my a Japanese citizen just flew in Japan.
http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/a6m-flies-japan.html
titsonritz
03-19-16, 19:51
Nope one more, the first one owned my a Japanese citizen just flew in Japan.
http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/a6m-flies-japan.html
I was just going to post that event.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/01/27/zero-fighter-flies-over-japan-for-1st-time-since-wwii.html
I don't think any zeros still exist in flying condition. not accurate. In fact one was involved in an accident with a corsair recently and lost the vertical stabilizer. It will be repaired. The planes of fame operate a A6M5.
lethal dose
03-19-16, 21:50
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2011/12/waynesworldbohemianrhapsody1.jpg
SOOOO well played.
lethal dose
03-19-16, 21:51
are you sure? I was thinking Antonov
:cool:
not accurate. In fact one was involved in an accident with a corsair recently and lost the vertical stabilizer. It will be repaired. The planes of fame operate a A6M5.
Looks like there is only one all original A6M5 and it's in a museum. The rest seem to have American made engines sourced for rebuilds. I knew as early as Tora, Tora, Tora and Black Sheep Squadron they were using Texans as zeroes which led me to believe there were no longer any flying. Also looks like one of the flyers was discovered as recently as 1991. I obviously have not kept current.
Moose-Knuckle
03-20-16, 03:30
I always heard stories in WWII of pilots being so low guys on the ground could see them wave. I thought it was BS. But these guys were so low I could see the clothes they were wearing!
Dieter Dengler (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dieter_Dengler) grew up in Germany during WWII, he said in a documentary he decided he wanted to be a fighter pilot the day his family home was strafed by a US fighter plane. During the attack with things exploding all around him he remembers seeing the white of the eyes of the US pilot.
Moose-Knuckle
03-20-16, 03:38
I don't think any zeros still exist in flying condition.
The CAF's Ghost Squadron (SoCal Wing) has an airworthy Mitsubishi A6M3 ZERO . . .
(be sure to check out the link below to geek out over these planes)
Our Zero was delivered to the Imperial Japanese Navy Air Group #3. The aircraft was recovered from Babo in New Guinea in 1991, partially restored from several A6M3s in Russia, then brought to the United States for completion of restoral. In 1998 the aircraft was re-registered and displayed at the Santa Monica Museum of Flying. Currently, this aircraft has a Pratt & Whitney R1830 engine (compared to the original Sakai engine in the Planes of Fame Museum’s flyable A6M5 Zero). There is, nevertheless, the fact that Japan had a contract with Pratt & Whitney before WWII in which P&W provided engines for fighter planes and other aircraft. It is, therefore, conceivable that some of the planes participating in the Pearl Harbor attack could have been powered by American engines.
This Zero is currently one of only five flyable Zeros in the world.
https://www.cafsocal.com/our-aircrafts/our-aircraft-and-history/mitsubishi-a6m3-zero/
Rayrevolver
03-20-16, 07:05
The CAF's Ghost Squadron (SoCal Wing) has an airworthy Mitsubishi A6M3 ZERO . . .
I worked at KCMA for a bit in the late 90's and thought the CAF was restoring a Zero, but it was a long time ago (CAF stood for Confederate Air Force back then).
The CAF F8F Bearcat is a beast but standing near the runway when the B-25 took off was always fun. Lots of great warbirds at Camarillo, including some kickass Yaks.
The school house here brings in random aircraft every year. Not uncommon to see Migs and other WWII aircraft around for the students to try and figure out.
Looks like there is only one all original A6M5 and it's in a museum. The rest seem to have American made engines sourced for rebuilds. I knew as early as Tora, Tora, Tora and Black Sheep Squadron they were using Texans as zeroes which led me to believe there were no longer any flying. Also looks like one of the flyers was discovered as recently as 1991. I obviously have not kept current.
That museum is the planes of fame to which I referred. It is an all original A6M5 with original Sakai engine and they do still fly it. I have some connections to the museum.
What planes?
Zeroes maybe? hard to tell. Where was this taken? Tell us more about your lady friend/significant other. Just kidding, I'm a pig.
You beat me too it!
That museum is the planes of fame to which I referred. It is an all original A6M5 with original Sakai engine and they do still fly it. I have some connections to the museum.
That's cool and insane at the same time. Kinda like taking a .45 Luger to the range.
titsonritz
03-21-16, 01:19
That's cool and insane at the same time. Kinda like taking a .45 Luger to the range.
I have to do it, just couldn't help myself.
Moose-Knuckle
03-21-16, 03:55
I worked at KCMA for a bit in the late 90's and thought the CAF was restoring a Zero, but it was a long time ago (CAF stood for Confederate Air Force back then).
The CAF F8F Bearcat is a beast but standing near the runway when the B-25 took off was always fun. Lots of great warbirds at Camarillo, including some kickass Yaks.
The school house here brings in random aircraft every year. Not uncommon to see Migs and other WWII aircraft around for the students to try and figure out.
Yes sir, I remember when they were the Confederate Air Force, based out of Lancaster, TX. . . :cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlFD0Zyl_f0
Crow Hunter
03-21-16, 07:38
You guys are brutal! She is a skinny girl and has skinny fingers. :ph34r:
After looking at the Texan aircraft, that's definitely what it was.
I always heard stories in WWII of pilots being so low guys on the ground could see them wave. I thought it was BS. But these guys were so low I could see the clothes they were wearing!
I can vouch for the fact that you can see an amazing amount of detail in the cockpit of a P51. I actually made that comment to my pilot. I had always wondered how on earth you could tell what to strafe/bomb while in the air. Even at the "safe" altitude that we were flying you could tell the basic clothes people were wearing and the made and model of cars and this is with 40 year old eyes with glasses, not 20 yr old fighter pilots eyes. If we had really gotten down on the deck, we probably could have seen facial expressions. When we did the flyby of the airfield I could definitely see my wife standing there with the camera. Man, I wish that damn GoPro had fraking worked.:mad:
Yes sir, I remember when they were the Confederate Air Force, based out of Lancaster, TX. . . :cool:
I remember when they were the Confederate Airforce and they were headquartered in Harlingen, Texas. I used to work parking there when I was in highschool during the annual big air shows. Seeing a flying B29 doing a simulated drop on Hiroshima will bring a chill down your back.
Holy shit, how do I join the Texas Confederate Air Force....
Holy shit, how do I join the Texas Confederate Air Force....
There is a Dixie branch in Peachtree City. I believe they are flying next weekend. You can fly in a Cobra or a huey. Just bring dollars.
There is a Dixie branch in Peachtree City. I believe they are flying next weekend. You can fly in a Cobra or a huey. Just bring dollars.
Relevant to my interests...especially if Cobras are involved.
There is a Dixie branch in Peachtree City. I believe they are flying next weekend. You can fly in a Cobra or a huey. Just bring dollars.
Relevant to my interests...especially if Cobras are involved.
No, you can't strafe downtown Atlanta...
Crow Hunter
03-21-16, 13:56
I have done the Huey. It was AWESOME!!!! Best $150 I have ever spent (me and my wife both).
I want to do it again and sit in the gunner's seat and I already have money set aside for the Cobra ride ($1,500 IIRC) if they come back to our local airshow.
The P51 I flew in was from the Dixie Wing. They also have a Corsair and a Dauntless. They will probably fly both if it is a local show. If you get a chance to fly in the P51, ask for Major Ray Fowler. He is an awesome pilot and a really great guy just to talk to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S83cYOxIw0Q
By the way, that was an actual gun run on an enemy position, not a training run.
I'm not seeing the chopper rides on the website, but I'm pretty sure I saw an ad or flyer recently.
http://www.dixiewing.org/
1500 for a 10 minute ride?
And no strafe runs?
Too rich for my blood. That could go into a lot of 308
Cool thread. Glad to hear there are still some Zeros flying. I am glad they fly, as just sitting in a museum doesn't do them justice. Nothing like the sound of a radial.
Rayrevolver
04-14-16, 11:51
Since this is our de-facto airplane thread... No kidding, in the pattern today was a "Fagot" followed by a "Queer."
I am big WWII guy and loved that these were being built:
http://www.flugwerk.de/html/index.php
If I win the lottery I will buy one of these.
^^^^^^Cool website. The FW-190 is one of my favorite planes, along with the ME-109 (BF-109), and ME-262. I like the German planes because you just don't see them as much, and I think they have a menacing, Teutonic look to them.
sevenhelmet
04-14-16, 16:21
Since this is our de-facto airplane thread... No kidding, in the pattern today was a "Fagot" followed by a "Queer."
I am big WWII guy and loved that these were being built:
http://www.flugwerk.de/html/index.php
If I win the lottery I will buy one of these.
Was it the red fagot? He was talking about getting out of the flying business a couple of years ago, just curious.
Rayrevolver
04-14-16, 21:46
Was it the red fagot? He was talking about getting out of the flying business a couple of years ago, just curious.
Yes. I want to say he shows up every 2 or 3 years. I think last year was a B-25.
sevenhelmet
04-14-16, 22:02
Yes. I want to say he shows up every 2 or 3 years. I think last year was a B-25.
Yep, it's twice a year, or used to be. He's got another Fagot, and a MiG-17 Farmer out at Edwards AFB. The B-25 is flown by the DE aviation museum, a different outfit.
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