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austinN4
04-21-16, 05:12
The Magnificent Seven 2016 due in September
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2404435/

Looks pretty good!

SkiDevil
04-21-16, 05:45
The Magnificent Seven 2016 due in September
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2404435/

Looks pretty good!

Link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=deSRpSn8Pyk

The original was a great movie. I hope the remake is well done. This is the same Director from Training Day and Tears of the Sun.

austinN4
04-21-16, 06:01
This is the same Director from Training Day and Tears of the Sun.

He also did Shooter, Olympus Has Fallen, The Equalizer and Southpaw. Here is the whole list: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0298807/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

FromMyColdDeadHand
04-21-16, 06:41
Interesting, they aren't going south to save Mexican peasants.

I'm in for pretty much any Denzel movie.

He is painting his masterpiece.

austinN4
04-21-16, 08:00
I'm in for pretty much any Denzel movie.

Likewise. My favorite is Man On Fire.

jwfuhrman
04-21-16, 08:16
Likewise. My favorite is Man On Fire.

Man on Fire is one of the greatest films ever made in the last 20 if not 30 years.

gunrunner505
04-21-16, 08:20
Just watched the trailer for this last night. Looks really good. And it's got Vinnie Jones.

Denzel is an excellent actor, I like most of his films.


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chuckman
04-21-16, 09:24
This looks like a great movie. I'm in. I hated Man on Fire. I slept through it, twice. I have liked most everything else he has been in, though.

austinN4
04-21-16, 09:34
I slept through it, twice.

How could you hate it? You haven't seen it, LOL!

chuckman
04-21-16, 09:37
How could you hate it? You haven't seen it, LOL!

It could not keep my attention. Tried as I might, to me it was boring, I got distracted, I slept. The book was good, though.

Vandal
04-21-16, 09:59
Yeah, I'll go see that in the theater. I love a Denzel movie, the day he retires from acting will be a sad one.

Singlestack Wonder
04-21-16, 11:08
hollywood is indeed out of creative ideas and writers. They continue to re-do old classics with the results most of the time less than spectacular.

HCrum87hc
04-21-16, 11:32
I like a good Denzel movie, but I'm also a huge fan of Chris Pratt. He's one of the few conservative, pro-gun, Christian actors in Hollywood.

Alex V
04-21-16, 11:41
The original was one of the few American movies my dad got to see back in the Motherland. He was obsessed with it. The new one seems like it could be awesome.

Seems like the director is using a lot of the same actors he has used in previous films.

Averageman
04-21-16, 12:02
hollywood is indeed out of creative ideas and writers. They continue to re-do old classics with the results most of the time less than spectacular.

You do know that The Magnificent Seven was a remake of the Seven Samurai, right?

soulezoo
04-21-16, 12:06
You do know that The Magnificent Seven was a remake of the Seven Samurai, right?

^^^^ This is true.

titsonritz
04-21-16, 12:13
You do know that The Magnificent Seven was a remake of the Seven Samurai, right?

Several flick are remakes of films by Akira Kurosawa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remakes_of_films_by_Akira_Kurosawa), including The Magnificent Seven, Star War IV: A New Hope, A Fist Full or Dollars, Last Man Standing...

mkmckinley
04-21-16, 12:19
Which one was Star Wars based on?

Big A
04-21-16, 12:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pU6B2zEFeg


Which one was Star Wars based on?

TAZ
04-21-16, 13:00
You do know that The Magnificent Seven was a remake of the Seven Samurai, right?

Exactly. No original thought. Just a redo of some other persons work and then re-do it again after the first generation is too senile and the next don't know the past.

Firefly
04-21-16, 13:18
I liked it the first time I saw it.

Plus, I hate to be "that guy" but a black dude and a Chinese guy traipsing about post civil war West as hired guns probably wouldn't have happened or been as easily welcomed.

Think Blazing Saddles only more grim.

Unforgiven gets a pass because Morgan Freeman.

Plus there's no Charles Bronson.

Big A
04-21-16, 13:24
I liked it the first time I saw it.

Plus, I hate to be "that guy" but a black dude and a Chinese guy traipsing about post civil war West as hired guns probably wouldn't have happened or been as easily welcomed.

Think Blazing Saddles only more grim.

Unforgiven gets a pass because Morgan Freeman.

Plus there's no Charles Bronson.

I'm right there with ya. Certainly wouldn't be the lead gun hand. Not for very long anyway.

Digital_Damage
04-21-16, 15:33
Westerns are dumb...

titsonritz
04-21-16, 16:34
Which one was Star Wars based on?

The Hidden Fortress (http://www.openculture.com/2014/05/how-star-wars-borrowed-from-akira-kurosawas-great-samurai-films.html)

FromMyColdDeadHand
04-21-16, 16:39
Likewise. My favorite is Man On Fire.


Man on Fire is one of the greatest films ever made in the last 20 if not 30 years.


This looks like a great movie. I'm in. I hated Man on Fire. I slept through it, twice. I have liked most everything else he has been in, though.

I can understand that. It is just a good movie. It has great action, plot, characters and their development, some morals and message, all with a twist. There are no real weak spots in the movie. All movies that cost millions of dollars should be like that- what make 'Man on Fire' special is that so few are. Even the 'Equalizer' falls short, though it has most of those elements.

On stealing from Kurosawa, there is no doubt about the influence, homage or just straight theft- but Kurosawa was influenced and borrowed from Shakespeare. Forbidden Castle, seen as the source material for ANH, was influenced and takes parts from SHakespeare.

Singlestack Wonder
04-21-16, 19:41
You do know that The Magnificent Seven was a remake of the Seven Samurai, right?

Yes but the original hollywood version was cowboys, not sword swinging gut spillers...

Quiet
04-21-16, 20:03
The Japanese have remade/adapted "Unforgiven".
They made it into a samurai movie, instead of a western.
I'm okay with it, due to how many westerns were made from samurai films.

titsonritz
04-21-16, 23:12
On stealing from Kurosawa, there is no doubt about the influence, homage or just straight theft- but Kurosawa was influenced and borrowed from Shakespeare. Forbidden Castle, seen as the source material for ANH, was influenced and takes parts from SHakespeare.

Absolutely. Kurosawa's Ran is very much Shakespeare's King Lear

It has been said there are only about a dozen story plots, Shakespeare wrote about them all of them and pretty much stole every one.

jpmuscle
04-21-16, 23:57
Westerns are dumb...
You shut your mouth. Lol

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Endur
04-22-16, 00:23
I am looking forward to it.

It is believed that Shakespeare didn't even write most of his "own" literature, that he was not educated enough to do so. It is believed it was his friend Edward de Vere, and because of his position he gave them to Shakespeare as much of the writing had undertones of political/religious criticism.

nml
04-22-16, 01:10
It is believed that Shakespeare didn't even write most of his "own" literature, that he was not educated enough to do so.King Edward VI School

Moose-Knuckle
04-22-16, 02:48
The Magnificent Seven 2016 due in September
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2404435/

Looks pretty good!

Now isn't that cute?

Someone made a documentary of the Village People . . .

Moose-Knuckle
04-22-16, 02:56
Man on Fire is one of the greatest films ever made in the last 20 if not 30 years.

That too was a remake, one of the few IMHO that was better than the original.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093489/?ref_=nv_sr_2



NOTHING is going to top the original cast of Yul Brynner, Eli Wallach, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, James Coburn, etc.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezC9Z5QrlYM

Moose-Knuckle
04-22-16, 02:59
And if you haven't seen Seven Samurai in which these American films are based upon go slap yourself . . .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mw6LyyoeGE

austinN4
04-22-16, 06:51
That too was a remake, one of the few IMHO that was better than the original.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093489/?ref_=nv_sr_2

Didn't know that, thanks!


NOTHING is going to top the original cast of Yul Brynner, Eli Wallach, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, James Coburn, etc.

Tend to agree, but I am going to watch the new one with an open mind.

jwinch2
04-22-16, 07:08
They'll either go dark with it, or try to make it more funny than they need to. I'm not optimistic about this. They're already making it political by having it about "industrialists" instead of outlaws. Heaven forbid they show Mexicans in a bad light in Hollywood. And yes, I know the "original" is an homage to The Seven Samurai, but I can't see how this new version lives up to either.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=214&v=yulmgTcGLZw

Seriously, Yul Brynner, Eli Wallach, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, James Coburn, etc.? I like some of the actors in the new version, but give me a break.

chuckman
04-22-16, 07:42
NOTHING is going to top the original cast of Yul Brynner, Eli Wallach, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, James Coburn, etc.



The original was awesome. Not true of all old westerns, but very true in this case.

Dienekes
04-22-16, 15:08
"If God had not wanted them to be sheared, He would not have made them sheep."--Calvera.

A hidden message in there, no doubt.