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Molon
05-15-16, 20:34
Hornady 5.56mm 75 Grain TAP SBR


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Hornady’s latest edition to their line-up of 5.56mm ammunition is their 75 grain TAP SBR load (#81295.) The “SBR” abbreviation stands for short-barreled rifle; the intended platform for the usage of this ammunition.




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This ammunition is loaded with a 75 grain flat-base, soft point bullet. This bullet is not a bonded projectile; it does however utilize an array of cannelures intended to lock the lead core of the bullet to the gilding metal jacket. The cartridge is sealed and crimped at the case-mouth.





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Here’s some pics comparing the 75 grain TAP SBR projectile to some other modern heavy .22 caliber projectiles.




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This ammunition is loaded in brass cases with a head-stamp that reads: “Hornady 5.56 NATO”. The primer-pockets are crimped and sealed.



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Contrary to erroneous information that has been posted on the Internet claiming that this ammunition “contains a propellant closer to gel than powder”, the form of the powder that this ammunition is actually charged with resembles that of a number of modern “ball” powders.



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Accuracy


I conducted an accuracy (technically, precision) evaluation of the Hornady 5.56mm 75 grain TAP SBR ammunition following my usual protocol. This accuracy evaluation used statistically significant shot-group sizes and every single shot in a fired group was included in the measurements. There was absolutely no use of any group-reduction techniques (e.g. fliers, target movement, butterfly shots).

The shooting set-up will be described in detail below. As many of the significant variables as was practicable were controlled for. Also, a control group was fired from the test-rifle used in the evaluation using match-grade, hand-loaded ammunition; in order to demonstrate the capability of the barrel. Pictures of shot-groups are posted for documentation.

All shooting was conducted from a concrete bench-rest from a distance of 100 yards (confirmed with a laser rangefinder.) The barrel used in the evaluation was free-floated. The free-float handguards of the rifle rested in a Sinclair Windage Benchrest, while the stock of the rifle rested in a Protektor bunny-ear rear bag. Sighting was accomplished via a Leupold VAR-X III set at a magnification of 25X and adjusted to be parallax-free at 100 yards. A mirage shield was attached to the objective-bell of the scope. Wind conditions on the shooting range were continuously monitored using a Wind Probe. The set-up was very similar to that pictured below.



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The Wind Probe.

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The test vehicle for this evaluation was one of my semi-automatic precision AR-15s with a 20” stainless-steel Lothar Walther barrel. The barrel has a 223 Wylde chamber with a 1:8” twist.




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Prior to firing the Hornady 5.56mm 75 grain TAP SBR ammunition, I fired a 10-shot control group using a hand-load topped with the Sierra 55 grain BlitzKing. That group had an extreme spread of 0.88”.





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Three 10-shot groups of the Hornady 5.56mm 75 grain TAP SBR ammunition were fired in a row with the resulting extreme spreads:

1.28”
1.41”
0.93”

for a 10-shot group average extreme spread of 1.21”. The three 10-shot groups were over-layed on each other using RSI Shooting Lab to form a 30-shot composite group. The mean radius for the 30-shot composite group was 0.44”.

All fired cases ejected briskly from the rifle in a 4:30 direction. The spent cases were gathered approximately 12 feet from the rifle.



The smallest 10-shot group . . .


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The 30-shot composite group . . .


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Lastly, for the Internet Commandos in our viewing audience, I fired a 3-shot group of the 75 grain TAP SBR ammunition from 100 yards. That group had an extreme spread of 0.36”.https://app.box.com/shared/static/i8p8r1qyf5w3v2pqspbhc6n8w00ru5tw.gif



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Velocity



Since the Hornady 5.56mm 75 grain TAP SBR ammunition is intended for use in short-barreled rifles, I chronographed the ammunition from the shortest barrel that I had on hand; a Noveske 14.5” N4 barrel. This barrel is chrome-lined and has a 5.56mm NATO chamber with a 1:7” twist.




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Chronographing was conducted using an Oehler 35-P chronograph with “proof screen” technology. The Oehler 35P chronograph is actually two chronographs in one package that takes two separate chronograph readings for each shot and then has its onboard computer analyze the data to determine if there is any statistically significant difference between the two readings. If there is a difference, the chronograph “flags” the shot to let you know that the data is invalid. There was no invalid data flagged during this testing.

The velocity stated below is the muzzle velocity as calculated from the instrumental velocity using Oehler’s Ballistic Explorer software program. The string of fire consisted of 10 rounds over the chronograph.




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Each round was single-loaded and cycled into the chamber from a magazine fitted with a single-load follower. The bolt locked-back after each shot allowing the chamber to cool in between each shot. This technique was used to mitigate the possible influence of “chamber-soak” on velocity data. Each new shot was fired in a consistent manner after hitting the bolt release. Atmospheric conditions were monitored and recorded using a Kestrel 4000 Pocket Weather Tracker.




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Atmospheric conditions

Temperature: 77 degrees F
Humidity: 33%
Barometric pressure: 30.05 inches of Hg
Elevation: 950 feet above sea level


The muzzle velocity for the 10-shot string of the Hornady 5.56mm 75 grain TAP SBR ammunition fired from the Noveske 14.5” N4 barrel was 2460 FPS with a standard deviation of 12 FPS and a coefficient of variation of 0.49%.

For comparison, I also chronographed Hornady’s 5.56mm 75 grain TAP T2 ammunition back-to-back from the same barrel. The muzzle velocity for this load was 2649 FPS with a standard deviation of 11 FPS and a coefficient of variation of 0.42%.

For additional comparison, I chronographed the Speer LE 223 Remington 75 grain Gold Dot ammunition from the same 14.5” Noveske N4 barrel. The muzzle velocity for the 75 grain Gold Dot ammunition was 2463 FPS with a standard deviation of 12 FPS and a coefficient of variation of 0.49%.




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SeriousStudent
05-15-16, 20:58
Interesting. I'll have to pick some up and see how it works for me.

Thanks for the post.

Molon
06-10-16, 21:59
Chronograph data added to the original post.

Eurodriver
06-10-16, 22:03
I am very surprised that even at 5.56mm pressures the velocity is essentially the same as the 75gr GD. I want to like the TAP SBR load, but the 75gr Gold Dots are $10/20, and I'm not seeing the cost/benefit ratio being tilted in favor of it.

Thanks Molon

markm
06-11-16, 10:04
I'd love to see some gel tests out of a 10.5 or something.

bfoosh006
06-11-16, 11:09
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Schmalkald
06-11-16, 11:18
I would have preferred you had conducted the tests out of a true SBR, 11.5" barrel max.

As it is, you have demonstrated what the ammo does from a 20" match grade barrel, which is nice, but rather useless.

The ammo was designed specifically for use in a Short Barreled Rifle and a 20" rifle barrel ain't it, and frankly, neither really is a 14.5" barrel.

Eurodriver
06-11-16, 11:45
Where, pray tell, are you finding 75gr GD's ?

Palmetto State Armory. They are out of stock as of now, but 4 days ago when I made a thread about it (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?184896-75gr-Gold-Dot-out-of-SBR-and-hunting-use) they had a daily deal for $10 a box.

Cheapest I've seen TAP SBR is $16/20 and that wasn't even in stock.

Molon
06-11-16, 12:04
I would have preferred you had conducted the tests out of a true SBR, 11.5" barrel max.

As it is, you have demonstrated what the ammo does from a 20" match grade barrel, which is nice, but rather useless.

The ammo was designed specifically for use in a Short Barreled Rifle and a 20" rifle barrel ain't it, and frankly, neither really is a 14.5" barrel.




Don't just sit there typing on your keyboard Sparky. Let's see you spend some of your money, your time, your equipment and your energy and actually contribute something of value to this site and show us how things should be done since you claim that my data is "rather useless."


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Schmalkald
06-11-16, 12:13
Just the facts, guy, sorry.

The ammo was specifically manufactured and designed for SBRs.

Your tests did not show what it can do out of a SBR.

I'm sorry you wasted your time and money on it.

Molon
06-11-16, 12:20
Just the facts, guy, sorry.

The ammo was specifically manufactured and designed for SBRs.

Your tests did not show what it can do out of a SBR.

I'm sorry you wasted your time and money on it.




So you don't have anything of value to contribute to this site. Got it.


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Gunnar da Wolf
06-11-16, 13:25
Molon,
Thanks for posting this info. My agency has several 14.5" SBRs and one of the LE distributers has been pushing TAP. It will be nice to know a bit about what he's selling the next time he comes around.

Really hoping to see some gel tests in the future.

Iraqgunz
06-11-16, 14:42
Word to the wise. Stop your nonsense.


Just the facts, guy, sorry.

The ammo was specifically manufactured and designed for SBRs.

Your tests did not show what it can do out of a SBR.

I'm sorry you wasted your time and money on it.

Bimmer
06-12-16, 05:37
First, thank you Molon, for another excellent post... I'm a fan.


I'd love to see some gel tests out of a 10.5 or something.


Let's see you spend some of your money, your time, your equipment and your energy...

Schmalkald is a troll, but I'm also curious as to how this would do out of a shorter barrel (14.5"?). My ARs are both 14.5", and my vague sense is that much of the powder charge is just burning as muzzle flash. If Hornady is loading faster burning powder for shorter barrels, then maybe that pays off in more velocity and less flash.

So, I can get some of it, then I'll compare this to the other 75/77gr loads that I have on hand, and I'll run them all over a chronograph...

Flankenstein
06-24-16, 13:06
Does anyone know who has this in stock?

markm
06-24-16, 20:42
I'm kinda weird about the somewhat "flat" tip on these rounds. I remember getting a bunch of the surplus LE soft point bullets from Wideners a few years back... and they choked up a few of our guns... and created a mess when the powder puked all over the barrel extension and chamber, etc.

I'm sure that these hornaday rounds don't do that, but ever since that experience, I'm nervous about any bullet that lacks a "ball" shape at the meplat.

Lee Indy
02-05-17, 15:46
Trying to figure out what powder they are using. Any ideas?

MQ105
02-07-17, 19:45
Lot# 3162028

2210fps Griffin 11.5, 2.1" 10 shot group @ 100 w/ Micro T-1, prone on mag

2244fps Sionics 11.5, 2.3" 10 shot... same ^^


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vicious_cb
02-13-17, 05:20
Lot# 3162028

2210fps Griffin 11.5, 2.1" 10 shot group @ 100 w/ Micro T-1, prone on mag

2244fps Sionics 11.5, 2.3" 10 shot... same ^^


Competition Electronics Pro @ 10ft, 69deg, 138ft asl

Interesting, Andrew was getting higher velocity out his 11.5" SBR with 75gr Gold Dot. You would think an SBR specific load would yield higher velocity than its competitor out of, well, an SBR. Speer 75 gr Gold Dot isn't even advertised as an SBR specific load.

Speer 75 gr Gold Dot

https://youtu.be/2lkI36eUoy4

11.5" SBR:
Velocity: 2,370 fps
Penetration: 19.5"
Retained weight: 73.0 gr
Max expansion: 0.563"
Min expansion: 0.305"



20" Rifle:
Velocity: 2,774 fps
Penetration: 15.2"
Retained weight: 66.2 gr
Max expansion: 0.686"
Min expansion: 0.382"


SBR Windshield:
Velocity: 2,328 fps
Penetration: 22" (approx.)
Retained weight: 60.9 gr
Max expansion: 0.426"
Min expansion: 0.246"

Rayrevolver
02-17-17, 07:58
Interesting, Andrew was getting higher velocity out his 11.5" SBR with 75gr Gold Dot. You would think an SBR specific load would yield higher velocity than its competitor out of, well, an SBR. Speer 75 gr Gold Dot isn't even advertised as an SBR specific load.


Devils Advocate: I am hoping the SBR load bullet is specifically designed to expand at lower working velocities. And maybe they chose the powder so that blast and concussion would be less with this load. Dunno.

If you look at their "Black" SBR ammo, they claim 2321 fps with an 11.5" barrel. I wonder if during development of the above SBR load, they realized they can market it to suppressor folks since it was less blasty.

I kinda want to try the Black SBR suppressed 5.56 and see if I can notice a difference in sound. Probably not.

MQ105
02-17-17, 11:09
It looks to me like the "black" ammo is the same stuff, just packaged differently. It shows the exact same velocity from the 11.5 inch test barrel. I would like to know what Hornady says about that.

MQ105
02-17-17, 11:57
I just spoke to a tech at Hornady who confirmed that the TAP SBR 75 gr load it is identical to the 75 gr Black load. Only the packaging is different.

C4IGrant
02-17-17, 12:24
Devils Advocate: I am hoping the SBR load bullet is specifically designed to expand at lower working velocities. And maybe they chose the powder so that blast and concussion would be less with this load. Dunno.

If you look at their "Black" SBR ammo, they claim 2321 fps with an 11.5" barrel. I wonder if during development of the above SBR load, they realized they can market it to suppressor folks since it was less blast.

I kinda want to try the Black SBR suppressed 5.56 and see if I can notice a difference in sound. Probably not.


I don't think it will. For that, you need a copper bullet (TSX/GMX). These bullets turn a 10.5 into 150yds gun.


C4

VARIABLE9
02-17-17, 14:49
Thanks for the review!

MQ105
02-18-17, 17:25
More data:

DD 10.75" (chopped) 2226fps, 1.7" 10-shot @ 100 yds, T-1

This ammo does seem quiet (suppressed) compared to BH or IMI 77 OTM, although it gives up 150-220fps depending on the particular barrel. (10.5-11.5" that I tested)

MQ105
02-23-17, 11:26
For comparison (all velocities are with M4SDII):

DD 10.75" --- 75 TAP SBR 2226, 75 Gold Dot 2183, 77 IMI 2391 64 Gold Dot 2287 62 Mk318 2604

Sionics 11.5" -75 TAP SBR 2244, 75 Gold Dot 2273, 77 IMI 2456 64 Gold Dot 2479 62 Mk318 2741


So, yes, the 75 GDs are a bit faster in my tests than the 75 TAP SBR. Still almost 100fps slower than the referenced test.







Interesting, Andrew was getting higher velocity out his 11.5" SBR with 75gr Gold Dot. You would think an SBR specific load would yield higher velocity than its competitor out of, well, an SBR. Speer 75 gr Gold Dot isn't even advertised as an SBR specific load.

Speer 75 gr Gold Dot

https://youtu.be/2lkI36eUoy4

11.5" SBR:
Velocity: 2,370 fps
Penetration: 19.5"
Retained weight: 73.0 gr
Max expansion: 0.563"
Min expansion: 0.305"



20" Rifle:
Velocity: 2,774 fps
Penetration: 15.2"
Retained weight: 66.2 gr
Max expansion: 0.686"
Min expansion: 0.382"


SBR Windshield:
Velocity: 2,328 fps
Penetration: 22" (approx.)
Retained weight: 60.9 gr
Max expansion: 0.426"
Min expansion: 0.246"

w3453l
02-24-17, 16:55
For comparison (all velocities are with M4SDII):

DD 10.75" --- 75 TAP SBR 2226, 75 Gold Dot 2183, 77 IMI 2391 64 Gold Dot 2287 62 Mk318 2604

Sionics 11.5" -75 TAP SBR 2244, 75 Gold Dot 2273, 77 IMI 2456 64 Gold Dot 2479 62 Mk318 2741


So, yes, the 75 GDs are a bit faster in my tests than the 75 TAP SBR. Still almost 100fps slower than the referenced test.

I'm assuming you have the standard Sionics 11.5" barrel, and not the reduced gas port one correct?

Thanks

MQ105
02-24-17, 18:10
I'm assuming you have the standard Sionics 11.5" barrel, and not the reduced gas port one correct?

Thanks

I have the reduced port barrel, and have also installed a homemade gas block port reduction insert that is .0630". It's pretty good with the M4SDII and will cycle Wolf Gold.
Without the suppressor:
it locks back 100% when clean and/or freshly lubed. When dirty and without recent lube it cycles 100% but won't reliably lock back. With M193, M855, Mk262, Mk 318 it is 100% whether dirty, clean, whatever, and locks back.

w3453l
02-24-17, 18:38
I have the reduced port barrel, and have also installed a homemade gas block port reduction insert that is .0630". It's pretty good with the M4SDII and will cycle Wolf Gold.
Without the suppressor:
it locks back 100% when clean and/or freshly lubed. When dirty and without recent lube it cycles 100% but won't reliably lock back. With M193, M855, Mk262, Mk 318 it is 100% whether dirty, clean, whatever, and locks back.

Thanks!

I have been contemplating on buying the RGP barrel, but I will not be running suppressed. I wasn't sure if that's still a good idea.

MQ105
02-24-17, 18:43
The .070 port in the reduced port barrel runs very well non suppressed.

Sensei
02-24-17, 19:31
For comparison (all velocities are with M4SDII):

DD 10.75" --- 75 TAP SBR 2226, 75 Gold Dot 2183, 77 IMI 2391 64 Gold Dot 2287 62 Mk318 2604

Sionics 11.5" -75 TAP SBR 2244, 75 Gold Dot 2273, 77 IMI 2456 64 Gold Dot 2479 62 Mk318 2741


So, yes, the 75 GDs are a bit faster in my tests than the 75 TAP SBR. Still almost 100fps slower than the referenced test.

Your numbers are very similar to mine. I got an average of 2170 out of a 10" SCAR and 2280 out of an 11.5" BCM with the TAP SBR. Those measurements are at the barrel using a magnetospeed. While that is on average 25-50 fps slower than most other 75 grain loads through those guns, the TAP SBR is noticeably quieter and softer shooting through a SF 556 RC2. It is also very accurate. I'll take those trade offs in a gun that will be used to engage targets at less than 100 yards; I bet they won't notice the difference after a center mass or head shot.

MQ105
03-10-17, 15:43
More data:

Lot# 3162028

2214fps Scar 16, 10.5" barrel, suppressed. 2.5" 10 shot group @ 100 w/ Micro T-1, prone on mag



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Sensei
04-29-17, 20:55
More data points. This time with a 10.5" LMT MRP SBR (1:7 twist) with and without a Surefire SOCOM RC-2 suppressor. 5 rounds unsuppressed was 2169 +/- 7 fps. Suppressed produced 2165 +/- 8 fps. I also shot 5 rounds of 75 grain TAP T2 unsuppressed and got 2423 +/- 19 fps. Recoil and flash was MAYBE a little less with the TAP T2. I'm not sure how I feel about giving up 250 fps to other 75 grain 5.56 loads assuming that most will expand down to 1800 fps or so. That means that the TAP 75 grain SBR expands out to 100 yards, but an extra 250 fps would give you another 85 yards to play with assuming a BC of 0.230. This load is clearly designed for very close encounters.