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HRC is meeting with EW today and there is speculation that EW will be picked to run on the ticket as VP.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/10/clinton-warren-to-huddle-after-endorsement-stoking-vp-speculation.html#
This would likely both lose and gain some votes for HRC.
What say you? Would this result in a net gain or loss, and why?
I am unsure.
It's a small net gain for Clinton because it solidifies her base which is her biggest threat. She beats Trump in a landslide if 90+% of democrats turn out for her.
Having said that, there are better choices for her like Julian Castro or Duval Patrick.
I think choosing Bernie would be her best guarantee to lock it up tomorrow.
If she chose Bernie it's game over for Trump. Warren won't change it that much, unless the pro-Bernie supporters decide to jump on the all-in bandwagon.
Choosing Warren might gain her some more women, but Warren has been so openly hostile to conservatives and even some independents that I can't see many indies running to them, and that's who they need to attract.
brickboy240
06-10-16, 10:27
Warren is as scary as Hillary.
She is also a huge fraud and would be dangerous as VP.
I think choosing Bernie would be her best guarantee to lock it up tomorrow.
Never happen. Hillary has a mean streak that's a mile wide and three miles deep. Bernie has caused her headaches and she won't forget or forgive it.
In before all the people talking crap about Hillary vote 3rd party which will lead to her being elected.
KalashniKEV
06-10-16, 11:21
Warren won't change it that much, unless the pro-Bernie supporters decide to jump on the all-in bandwagon.
Warren is huge with the Berners.
Picking her for VP gets Hillary a bundle of former Bernie supporters, and she doesn't have to do any favors for Bernie, who has damaged her and will not be forgiven.
Warren is huge with the Berners.
Picking her for VP gets Hillary a bundle of former Bernie supporters, and she doesn't have to do any favors for Bernie, who has damaged her and will not be forgiven.
Yeah, that would do the trick. I know some of them are still smarting and on a huge ant-HRC campaign now. I wonder when the dust settles if they will still note vote (as they are saying today out of anger), or climb aboard the Bitchmobile.
Eurodriver
06-10-16, 11:42
Yeah, that would do the trick. I know some of them are still smarting and on a huge ant-HRC campaign now. I wonder when the dust settles if they will still note vote (as they are saying today out of anger), or climb aboard the Bitchmobile.
The Democrats are not nearly as vain as conservatives. They will all vote for HRC.
Any loss of votes the Dems get will be because the black vote turn out will be less than it was for Zero.
KalashniKEV
06-10-16, 11:46
I know some of them are still smarting and on a huge ant-HRC campaign now...
Just like the drumpfers and the #nevertrump-ers still are.
They will be quick to forget though, and will soon climb on board.
The Right is all about fear, hate, and differences, so now that they can fight the new Republicans that's just a bonus- more persons/parties/groups to rant against.
GOP will not achieve unity before the election- or ever after, post-Trump.
The Right is all about fear, hate, and differences....
The left is the same. They just actually for-real coalesce and unite when the rubber meets the road, unlike the self-destructive GOP.
WickedWillis
06-10-16, 12:50
How does this keep getting more and more terrifying?
Outlander Systems
06-10-16, 12:51
Feel the Bern:
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/Camp-Bernie-DNC-Protesters-Booking-NJ-Campgrounds-382307881.html
God has a sense of humor.
You gotta appreciate how the socialist won the vote, but had his delegates "redistributed."
It's a sad cold day, when I'd sleep better at night if an out-and-out socialist was the pResident, rather than someone whose legacy is giving Cristina Elisabet Fernández de Kirchner a run for her money in the "Corrupt Politician" department...
Yeah, that would do the trick. I know some of them are still smarting and on a huge ant-HRC campaign now. I wonder when the dust settles if they will still note vote (as they are saying today out of anger), or climb aboard the Bitchmobile.
Elizabeth Warren was going to be the choice of the Soros Funded/MoveOn.org Progressives if Bernie hadn't run. Warren would secure the extreme Left for the Whore of Benghazi.
Outlander Systems
06-10-16, 13:05
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BoringGuy45
06-10-16, 14:17
The left was going to vote Hillary anyway. The moderates are stuck between riding out the status quo with Hillary for at least 4 years or seeing just what kind of shaking up of Washington Trump actually does. They're the deciding factor. I can't think of a single VP pick that has swayed any voters in the history of the elections. McCain tapping Palin in 2008 didn't sway the female vote, nor did it make conservatives come out in droves to vote for McCain. John Edwards didn't sway the southern voters and moderates to vote for Kerry in 2004. Hell, I wouldn't vote for Hillary if she tapped David Clarke or Rand Paul for her VP! Unless there was a way to impeach her and remove her from office the second she was sworn in, who cares who her back up is?
Pocahantas will move the ticket too far to the left, losing many independents.
The Bern vote is overrated, I bet 50% of them are not registered and do not vote.
eta
I meant the bern supporters, obviously those who voted for him in the primaries are registered and vote.
Outlander Systems
06-10-16, 14:27
But somehow, them, AND their long-deceased grandmothers still keep casting votes.
; )
Pocahantas will move the ticket too far to the left, losing many independents.
The Bern vote is overrated, I bet 50% of them are not registered and do not vote.
eta
I meant the bern supporters, obviously those who voted for him in the primaries are registered and vote.
We're not lucky enough for her to choose Pocahontas as VP.
Pocahantas will move the ticket too far to the left, losing many independents.
You mean Lie-awatha? :D
You mean Lie-awatha? :D
Damn, you beat me to it!
Just like the drumpfers and the #nevertrump-ers still are.
They will be quick to forget though, and will soon climb on board.
The Right is all about fear, hate, and differences, so now that they can fight the new Republicans that's just a bonus- more persons/parties/groups to rant against.
GOP will not achieve unity before the election- or ever after, post-Trump.
DNC talking points much Kev?
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-10-16, 21:58
Remember when the TEA Party guys rioted and tuned up some cops and blocked traffic? ;)
When people start to call BS on the completely looney stuff the Progressive wing of the DNC likes to pull, out comes the hate and racism charges.
Won't be Bernie. Two chicks on the ticket only plays in the Skinemax version. Who was the third guy that was running? He is a progressive's wet dream too.
I still think it will be a Latino, Castro from Texas or something. Then they get to play the race card the whole time. Of course, running that ticket will probably cost them Penn., Ohio, Wis., and maybe even Michigan. But if they Hilary takes FL, I think it is over anyways.
This is how truly f-ed we are.
She's got the woman thing nailed. She needs to, and will, play the race card.
She's got the woman thing nailed. She needs to, and will, play the race card.
I know quite a few women who detest Hillary. Maybe a little "catty-ness" plays into it?
I know quite a few women who detest Hillary. Maybe a little "catty-ness" plays into it?
I almost think it's more about men voting for a woman. Like white guilt, but gender guilt.
My wife doesn't even think a woman should be president, so it's certainly not getting her vote even if she did agree with hilaries politics, which she doesn't.
I think Obama and the race card capitalized on white guilt more than getting the black vote. Not that the black vote didn't make a difference, but you get what I'm saying.
Averageman
06-11-16, 13:16
It amazes me the the name "Redskins" is offensive to Native Americans, but Elizabeth Warren's shenanigans, hmmmmm? Not so much?
I hope Hillary gives her the nod for the VP position, really this should give Trump, every Late Night Show Host and SNL enough fodder to keep us in stitches for months.
I think choosing Bernie would be her best guarantee to lock it up tomorrow.
Bernie might be a wacka doo, but I think he has the integrity to not have any interest in that position. Bernie is many things not to my liking, but he's been laser consistent with who and what he is.
I know quite a few women who detest Hillary. Maybe a little "catty-ness" plays into it?
I don't know a single woman that supports Hillary. I also consider them all pretty damn smart. Oddly enough, now that I think about it, I don't know anyone that professes to be voting for Hillary, but I don't know a bunch of Bernie supporters. Every one I have spoken to says they'll be voting Johnson(?) if Bernie doesn't get the nomination (which he won't).
Averageman
06-11-16, 21:20
http://www.blacklistednews.com/Stunning_Emails_Reveal_How_Clinton_Foundation_Donor_Bought_Seat_As_Hillary%27s_Nuclear_Weapons_Advisor/51831/0/38/38/Y/M.html
It has been widely speculated, if not proven, that donors to the Clinton Foundation who over the years have transferred hundreds of millions of dollars to the "charitable organization", bought political favors with the Clintons in exchange for their generosity. That has now been confirmed thanks to a stunning ABC report which reveals how a major foundation donor - one who previously had practically no experience on intellgience matters - mysteriously ended up as a nuclear weapons advisor to Hillary during her tenure as Secretary of State.
Worse, the person in question Rajiv K. Fernando, had been the head of a high frequency trading company, Chopper Trading (recently acquired by HFT powerhouse DRW), which may explain the unprecedented pull of the HFT lobby throughout all ranks of the US political apparatus. In other words, Fernando bought a seat to not only have advance knowledge of all US foreign policy, but to directly shape it, something he could then parlay in the forms of massive policy frontrunning profits thanks to his trading company.
In other words, the appointment qualified Fernando, a trader in the public markets, for one of the highest levels of top secret access.
Look at the ABC source, makes wonder if they are feeling the Bern?
It amazes me the the name "Redskins" is offensive to Native Americans.
I know. I once told a lady at a petition table that I thought her petitioning to elinimate Indian names from high school athletic teams was idiotic, I believe it went something like 'Yeah, I know most parents want to name their kid's team for something they hate and choose a name the mocks their kids.'
Jeez.
I know. I once told a lady at a petition table that I thought her petitioning to elinimate Indian names from high school athletic teams was idiotic, I believe it went something like 'Yeah, I know most parents want to name their kid's team for something they hate and choose a name the mocks their kids.'
Jeez.
That's actually a good point.
On the other hand I can kind of sort of see how white folks could get all paternalistic and take offence on behalf of Indians for the Redskins name in particular. The other ones (e.g. Braves, Indians, etc.) not so much.
Back to the topic though, I hope the Dems do choose Warren as VP. A double female crook ticket will at least be very obvious for playing the gender card so hard.
Back to the topic though, I hope the Dems do choose Warren as VP. A double female crook ticket will at least be very obvious for playing the gender card so hard.
I'm gonna be careful what I wish for. After all Obama was able to get elected with a complete retard on his ticket.
It amazes me the the name "Redskins" is offensive to Native Americans, but Elizabeth Warren's shenanigans, hmmmmm? Not so much?
I hope Hillary gives her the nod for the VP position, really this should give Trump, every Late Night Show Host and SNL enough fodder to keep us in stitches for months.
It's my experience that most American Indians don't give two shits about the name of football teams. The pc crowd tried the same bs with the FSU Seminoles, until the tribe officially sanctioned the use of the name.
I grew up in former Indian Territory, where there is quite a large Indian contingent. One of our main sports rivals was and still is nicknamed the Redskins.
Nobody said shit, other than we were gonna kick their asses.
True, you can always find a squeaky wheel, but it's hardly a majority.
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Moose-Knuckle
06-12-16, 04:17
She's got the woman thing nailed. She needs to, and will, play the race card.
Well I see my post was deleted entirely lol.
The race card has been played out, this is why we don't have a Black candidate this time around or a Hispanic. The GOP had one female, TWO Hispanics, and one Black candidate and notta.
For the win she'll seal the deal with a VP who "identifies" as one flavor or another of the LGBTQIAPK "community" (yes there are that many letters now).
Personally I'd like to see her name a trans-racial otherkin, think Rachel Dolezal meets cat girl from Norway.
Averageman
06-12-16, 06:39
It's my experience that most American Indians don't give two shits about the name of football teams. The pc crowd tried the same bs with the FSU Seminoles, until the tribe officially sanctioned the use of the name.
I grew up in former Indian Territory, where there is quite a large Indian contingent. One of our main sports rivals was and still is nicknamed the Redskins.
Nobody said shit, other than we were gonna kick their asses.
True, you can always find a squeaky wheel, but it's hardly a majority.
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It wasn't so much about "Football", you see E. Warren filled out her applications for acceptance to various Universities and Educational programs claiming to be Native American.
I always wondered why if the Progressives thought such names for teams were offensive, why wasn't Elizabeth Warren's lie claiming to be Native American even more offensive? After all one might stretch that out a bit and say that She "Stole" her place in line for an Education from a real "Native American."
It wasn't so much about "Football", you see E. Warren filled out her applications for acceptance to various Universities and Educational programs claiming to be Native American.
I always wondered why if the Progressives thought such names for teams were offensive, why wasn't Elizabeth Warren's lie claiming to be Native American even more offensive? After all one might stretch that out a bit and say that She "Stole" her place in line for an Education from a real "Native American."
^^^^^This exactly. But it is OK for the left to steal, and lie as the end justifies their means. It is for a "good" cause so she can spread the Marxist word. The media gave her a pass so the general public will as well. Hypocrites.
It wasn't so much about "Football", you see E. Warren filled out her applications for acceptance to various Universities and Educational programs claiming to be Native American.
I always wondered why if the Progressives thought such names for teams were offensive, why wasn't Elizabeth Warren's lie claiming to be Native American even more offensive? After all one might stretch that out a bit and say that She "Stole" her place in line for an Education from a real "Native American."
Oh, I gotcha. Yeah I don't know. Same thing with that Rachel Dolezal chick and the BLM leader who turned out to be white. I guess it's because the end justifies the means....as long as the narrative is moved forward, it's all good.
F'ing weirdos
ETA^^^^^
I really need to start reading all the replies before I comment. What he said. LOL
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It wasn't so much about "Football", you see E. Warren filled out her applications for acceptance to various Universities and Educational programs claiming to be Native American.
I always wondered why if the Progressives thought such names for teams were offensive, why wasn't Elizabeth Warren's lie claiming to be Native American even more offensive? After all one might stretch that out a bit and say that She "Stole" her place in line for an Education from a real "Native American."
http://i1281.photobucket.com/albums/a501/Caeser001/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1465732513168_zpsaqj391em.jpg (http://s1281.photobucket.com/user/Caeser001/media/Mobile%20Uploads/FB_IMG_1465732513168_zpsaqj391em.jpg.html)
Averageman
06-12-16, 09:18
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The Trump crew probably have about 50,000 of these already printed up for billboards and yard signs.
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I knew about the NA thing but not about a 5.4 million mansion. Is that true? Links?
Spurholder
06-12-16, 09:52
The fact that a flake like her can spout crap like this:
There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody. ... You moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for; you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate; you were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did. Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea. God bless. Keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is, you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.
And seriously be considered for the 2nd highest office in the land is telling. We are hopelessly screwed. And it's not a newsflash, either.
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