View Full Version : "Firing an AR-15 is horrifying, menacing and very very loud"
Hadn't seen it posted yet...
Here's a recent news story from The New York Daily News
"...The recoil bruised my shoulder..."
"The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/firing-ar-15-horrifying-dangerous-loud-article-1.2673201
The comments on this are golden, but here's one I think we all can appreciate.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160617/77fbe1b450907d996c989bcba1bb05fc.jpg
"It felt like a bazooka"....as if some one capable of using such a weapon would actually squeal about firing an AR. This gun grabbing media blitz is out of hand. How long before we hear this bazooka death cannon rolled out as "fact"? These people are just playing into the weak minds of the wilfully ignorant.
That is pretty damn funny, but I will not click this and give these assclown cuck pansy coward traitors any page views.
KITTEN_FRENZY
06-16-16, 22:53
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13466133_10154355829538606_7557331527862695824_n.jpg?oh=7278281fe420975c6b00380e694a32e7&oe=57D066C3
ColtSeavers
06-16-16, 22:58
Love it.
Can't even call the guy a pussy, because it's an outright lie that it even bruised him.
"Loud like a bomb" though... Kinda poetic in a way, given how many guys have been subjected to firing those dangerous rifles, around actual bombs, and deal with actual PTSD for his right to own that.
Unappreciative prick.
A .50 could quite possibly kill him....
the journalist's last name is Kuntzman, i sh*t you not. LOL! this is too much :sarcastic:
That dude needs to take some estrogen inhibitors.
Moose-Knuckle
06-17-16, 03:51
It's not funny guys, the struggle is realz!
This beta cuck reminds me of Jimmy Swaggart when he asked for Jesus's forgiveness on the TV after he got popped with a hooker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSmMPhnnNo0&feature=youtu.be
Hahaha! The first thing I thought of was my young daughter shooting the Colt 6920 and Glocks. She begs me to take her to the range all the time. She's only shot 9mm handguns so far but wants to try the HK USPT 45 next. She is pretty damn good with the 6920 and Glocks. We are currently building her Noveske 16" Recon which should be complete soon.
http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/honkonthree/F0CD49EC-46DA-4900-888D-DEF549E8AF46_zpsjvsdkaay.jpg (http://s464.photobucket.com/user/honkonthree/media/F0CD49EC-46DA-4900-888D-DEF549E8AF46_zpsjvsdkaay.jpg.html)
http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/honkonthree/B7CCCBBC-1621-4484-B397-76AA846AD1F8_zpscnnijgsp.jpg (http://s464.photobucket.com/user/honkonthree/media/B7CCCBBC-1621-4484-B397-76AA846AD1F8_zpscnnijgsp.jpg.html)
Lol...posing with the Colt and still mugs the duck face.
Kids are awesome. :)
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Lol...posing with the Colt and still mugs the duck face.
Kids are awesome. :)
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LOL yeah, she has a great time when we go duck face and all. She field strips, cleans and assembles all on her own and knows the names of all the parts. She's assembling her Noveske also.
lawusmc0844
06-17-16, 10:46
Low T white liberal cuck, it's pansies like him that makes America weak. And he is an insult to my buddies who have legit PTSD and actually struggle through it, makes me sick.
As much as I despise my ex, even she could handle my Mossberg M590 SPX and Springfield MC Operator like a champ. Still an emotionally unstable cunt but I remember she laughed about the bruise on her shoulder afterwards.
Is this guy a psychiatrist?
Disoriented by brass? How do people even kill anyone with these things? They shouldn't be banned if they are so hard to shoot, right?
Low T white liberal cuck, it's pansies like him that makes America weak. And he is an insult to my buddies who have legit PTSD and actually struggle through it, makes me sick.
As much as I despise my ex, even she could handle my Mossberg M590 SPX and Springfield MC Operator like a champ. Still an emotionally unstable cunt but I remember she laughed about the bruise on her shoulder afterwards.
I really can't muster the words to describe this limp wristed DB. What an utter waste of oxygen. I haven't met a woman let alone a kid or man that didn't enjoy shooting my rifles. My daughter, sister and wife complain that we don't go to the range enough.
brickboy240
06-17-16, 11:14
I guess it is all relative.
I know a few 20-something guys that talk about the recoil of their 5.56 AR styled rifles. I just laugh.
I grew up in the 70s, shooting Dad's Model 94 Winchester 30-30 with a steel buttplate. Graduated to his hand me down sporterized 03 Springfield 30-06 when I hit high school. So maybe recoil of any 5.56 rifle is going to seem damned tame.
Again...it is all relative, but a 5.56 rifle's recoil is not violent or punishing in the least. My daughter was shooting my Colt AR and Mini-14 when she was 12 years old and not complaining at all. She is maybe 5ft 2in and 100 pounds soaking wet. LOL
WickedWillis
06-17-16, 11:16
I love the reply of "Did the recoil make your tampon fall out?" This guys is human shit. We have no need for him.
The fact he said he got PTSD from an AR is an absolute spit in the face to the soldiers, LEOs, rape victims, abuse victims, etc. that actually do have PTSD due to a traumatic event.
Unreal.
titsonritz
06-17-16, 12:23
"Screw you" (http://opinion.injo.com/2015/07/245635-gun-rights-advocates-have-a-devastating-new-argument-against-gun-control-here-it-is/)
WickedWillis
06-17-16, 12:25
The fact he said he got PTSD from an AR is an absolute spit in the face to the soldiers, LEOs, rape victims, abuse victims, etc. that actually do have PTSD due to a traumatic event.
Unreal.
I completely agree
The fact he said he got PTSD from an AR is an absolute spit in the face to the soldiers, LEOs, rape victims, abuse victims, etc. that actually do have PTSD due to a traumatic event.
Unreal.
Then there is that. Perhaps he will be actually raped one day so he might discover what an offensive, useless POS he actually is. But because we respect his views, if we see him being raped or assaulted in the future, we won't intervene with any noisy, scary guns because we know it disturbs him.
The guy must end up in ICU every fourth of July.
titsonritz
06-17-16, 12:39
https://www.facebook.com/doubletapshootingrange/posts/1146174612105699
"Screw you" (http://opinion.injo.com/2015/07/245635-gun-rights-advocates-have-a-devastating-new-argument-against-gun-control-here-it-is/)
Holy cow! That was fantastic.
It really does sum it all up. Still, because I am a bit sick and twisted, I enjoy backing libs into inescapable mental corners and watching them squirm and fuss. The reaction when they realize I have achieved the inevitable "check mate", is variable, sometimes surprising, and always entertaining. I'm not going to stop arguing, because I enjoy it. Its the equivalent of making them say "uncle".
In regards to our to our sensitive friend in the OP: I'll make a deal with him. If he stops trying to pass laws saying that I can't have and shoot my gun of choice, I won't try to make a law that says he must own and shoot any scary guns that offend his delicate sensibilities. He can cower under the table, while other people, like the little girls depicted in this thread and my own little girl, can do all the work of standing up for what is right.
LOL yeah, she has a great time when we go duck face and all. She field strips, cleans and assembles all on her own and knows the names of all the parts. She's assembling her Noveske also.
That's good stuff man. Great kid there.
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BuzzinSATX
06-17-16, 12:49
"Screw you" (http://opinion.injo.com/2015/07/245635-gun-rights-advocates-have-a-devastating-new-argument-against-gun-control-here-it-is/)
Thanks much for that link! Great opinion article!
Take Care,
Buzz
If that "gentleman" thinks firing an AR is horrific, I'll invite him to shoot my 1903 Springfield if he is ever in my AO. I'll supply the ammunition for free.
Digital_Damage
06-17-16, 13:36
Sweet...
This guy has shot a bazooka before.
He must have, since he would have had to in order to make the comparison.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
06-17-16, 13:42
My dainty wife shot mine:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f198/glockfire/Rifles/DSC_0238_zps37f9ea64.jpg (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/glockfire/media/Rifles/DSC_0238_zps37f9ea64.jpg.html)
Then decided she wanted one too:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f198/glockfire/Rifles/DSC_0357_zps595edb78.jpg (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/glockfire/media/Rifles/DSC_0357_zps595edb78.jpg.html)
She managed to not get PTSD from it.
..................
She didn't even shriek when she shot my "bazooka" the first time:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f198/glockfire/DSC_0181_zps906bf7e5.jpg (http://s47.photobucket.com/user/glockfire/media/DSC_0181_zps906bf7e5.jpg.html)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd4B77PkeaU&app=desktop
Meanwhile, we have Hit Girl(okay not really, but close) over here who is just going to town.
So if that Randy Shilts looking bagel eater can't hang, that's on him
Digital_Damage
06-17-16, 14:15
My dainty wife shot mine:
Then decided she wanted one too:
She managed to not get PTSD from it.
..................
She didn't even shriek when she shot my "bazooka" the first time:
Wife did not have a problem while shooting either. However, she did get PTSD in the bedroom later that night.
He has a follow up:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gun-lovers-opinion-assault-rifles-article-1.2674555
He has a follow up:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gun-lovers-opinion-assault-rifles-article-1.2674555
Heavenly God, that man's trying to get to China he's digging so deep.
had to make my first gif over this :)
http://i.giphy.com/9EPFzTxVAwt2M.gif
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-17-16, 15:12
He has a follow up:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gun-lovers-opinion-assault-rifles-article-1.2674555
By that definition, we need more real men in power taking on bullies like the NRA, which seeks to bolster the Second Amendment by shutting down opponents’ right to the First. We can’t even debate guns in this country, thanks to the gun lobby.
Really shutting down the 1st? You guys lie about everything gun and think that by requesting that you tell the truth is an attack on your rights. Stop lying about my rights.
I think that guy has gotten beat up so much in his life, he has become dependant on it. He seriously doesn't have a clue, and even touts that he is a 2A supporter.
And we click-baited to his article.
Can someone video their young daughter doing a mag dump and the turning to the camera and saying "Kuntzman! Girl up you little bitch."
Really shutting down the 1st? You guys lie about everything gun and think that by requesting that you tell the truth is an attack on your rights. Stop lying about my rights.
I think that guy has gotten beat up so much in his life, he has become dependant on it. He seriously doesn't have a clue, and even touts that he is a 2A supporter.
And we click-baited to his article.
Can someone video their young daughter doing a mag dump and the turning to the camera and saying "Kuntzman! Girl up you little bitch."
LOL actually my daughter and I will be at the range for Father's Day. Consider it done sir!
Edited: with exception to her saying bitch. I'm sure she will come up with another fitting adjective.
I'm dieing over here. I just showed the article to my daughter who is 14 to read. She asked me how it bruised his shoulder and how the heck he got PTSD from firing the rifle. She busted out laughing and said he must have soft bones. I'm friggin laughing so hard I can barely write this!
He has a follow up:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gun-lovers-opinion-assault-rifles-article-1.2674555
So it's ok when some journalist call for a repeal of the second amendment and threaten our civil rights, but when we criticize them for it (expressing our first amendment rights) and they feel their first amendment rights are being threatened then they suddenly understand all about rights, or at least the ones they care about.
Btw, his follow up opinion caused me a tremendous amount of stress and harm, reading it gave me temporary PTSD...and I think maybe AIDS. So be careful everyone, the NY Daily News might cause AIDS.
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-17-16, 15:50
LOL actually my daughter and I will be at the range for Father's Day. Consider it done sir!
Edited: with exception to her saying bitch. I'm sure she will come up with another fitting adjective.
I'm dieing over here. I just showed the article to my daughter who is 14 to read. She asked me how it bruised his shoulder and how the heck he got PTSD from firing the rifle. She busted out laughing and said he must have soft bones. I'm friggin laughing so hard I can barely write this!
I know on the B word. Just too much of a fan of the first Kick-ass movie... Hell, I'd be afraid to say his last name out loud, people would think that you are making it up. If you can have her ringing steel on the mag dump, that would be epic.
Epic trolling of Kuntzman. :D
http://monsterhunternation.com/2016/06/16/ask-kuntzman/
I know on the B word. Just too much of a fan of the first Kick-ass movie... Hell, I'd be afraid to say his last name out loud, people would think that you are making it up. If you can have her ringing steel on the mag dump, that would be epic.
She just finished up her 8th grade year at a middle school of the arts for theater and I'm sure she will come up with some good lines.
Firearms aside, he writes like a 7th grader and very, very recklessly tosses around words of meaning with total irresponsibility.
PTSD is a real, all too real, condition that meets certain medical criteria. People do struggle with it as a result of severely traumatic experiences. Usually where mortality or severe injury was a factor.
What Kuntzman meant to say was that he went shooting and didn't like it and probably wouldn't do it on his own time.
Weapons of Mass Destruction are weapons that are CBRN in nature. Chemical, Biological, Radioactive, Nuclear. Meant to incur the terminology of megadeath, which numbers at a minimum in the millions. Usually at the nuclear level. Other WMDs usually chemical incur death at a minimun of hundreds to thousands with the deployment of at least one vector/device.
WMDs were used in Europe, Japan, China, and against the Kurds. Only twice have anything atomic been used in anger. However during weapons testing many men, taking precautions were exposed to lethal radiation during the Cold War. All WMDs and munitions depots require Secret to Top Secret clearance just to guard.
A carbine is a Small Arm. Shoulder fired and carried by one man. Lethality is determined by target and user level of training. Individual lethality potential is usually in the tens under "ideal" circumstances.
What Kuntzman meant to say is that AR-15s are Small Arms which actions and efficacy are dictated by the user for evil or good. While he may not desire one of his very own, they fall well within the scope of reasonableness.
First Amendment infringement is when you are hauled off to jail or detained without trial or charge by a government body. Other individuals, without assistance from the government. cannot infringe upon another's First Amendment rights. At mininum they disagree and at worst they are committing an individual crime of assault; a crime divorced from anything to do with Amendments. The NRA does not "bully". The NRA lobbies on behalf of paying members who seek to preserve through court and legislation their individual rights, which can be and are acted upon by agency of government.
What Kuntzmam meant to say is that he published a public article, opened a means of being contacted, and other people advised him that they disagreed with him and found numerous flaws in his journalism. Furthermore the NRA does not represent his views and likely he will not join and get a free hat.
Kuntzman goes on to attempt to reverse psychology by declaring himself effeminate as means of taking the 'high road'. Ultimately, he just outs himself as being a wuss.
Epic trolling of Kuntzman. :D
http://monsterhunternation.com/2016/06/16/ask-kuntzman/
And now it's really, really funny.
Lol...... The writer should go shoot an MKA 1919 and then get back to us......lol....such pansies.....
Just remember folks, he votes. And there's more retards like him. Back before modern times he probably would have starved to death, or been eaten by something else. Lols.......
Such a joto (pronounced hO-tow).......
So hard to keep up with reporters....sometimes it is way to easy to shoot, and others it is way too powerful.
LOL yeah, she has a great time when we go duck face and all. She field strips, cleans and assembles all on her own and knows the names of all the parts. She's assembling her Noveske also.
I'm just ragging you man, but from the looks of the firing line, maybe she should teach you about spreading concrete. :D
Nice looking young lady, your going to be chasing boys off pretty soon!
I'm just ragging you man, but from the looks of the firing line, maybe she should teach you about spreading concrete. :D
Nice looking young lady, your going to be chasing boys off pretty soon!
Thanks, she's just starting to merge into the "boys" arena and it's not sitting well with me at all. The firing line is sand and I suggested going with concrete but the owner insisted against it and wanted sand. Oh well.
So if that Randy Shilts looking bagel eater can't hang, that's on him
Bagel eater?
Bagel eater?
What does a bagel look like from the topside?
What does a bagel look like from the topside?
I see what you did there.
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Moose-Knuckle
06-18-16, 03:45
I wished Ronnie Barrett would give this douche an open invite to try out some of his rifles . . .
Mauser KAR98K
06-18-16, 05:52
I'm sadden that my people let some escape during a pillaging on that man's ancestral home.
BrigandTwoFour
06-18-16, 09:57
This guy reminds me of just another New Yorker D-Bag who thinks that the rest of the country serves as entertainment for their NY-focused lifestyle. I have many friends and family that have succumbed to this disease. For the life of them, they cannot comprehend that people actually live, by their own volition, a different life with different values from New Yorkers.
And these types of responses (and the comments in the article) is why there will always be an "us" vs "them" attitude.
And these types of responses (and the comments in the article) is why there will always be an "us" vs "them" attitude.
Please. This wasn't an unbiased / inexperienced shooter who tried an AR-15 and didn't have a good time. This was a hit piece full of lies and exaggerations in an attempt to demonize a rifle and suggest it is too horrific to have a place in polite society.
Yellow journalism at it's finest.
St.Michael
06-18-16, 13:36
This is what happens when idiots have kids. They make morons that go into the world and just make it that much more dangerous. What amazes me the most, is how humility and education just kinda go hand in hand. It's always the loud mouths that are morons. -.-
This is what happens when idiots have kids. They make morons that go into the world and just make it that much more dangerous. What amazes me the most, is how humility and education just kinda go hand in hand. It's always the loud mouths that are morons. -.-
The greatest problem of our society is modern medicine, Darwinism and natural selection no longer apply. This is giving everybody a equal chance when the herd should've been thinned along time ago.
And these types of responses (and the comments in the article) is why there will always be an "us" vs "them" attitude.
Im fine with that. If there was less of them and more of us the world wouldn't suck so bad. Because liberty...
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FromMyColdDeadHand
06-18-16, 14:36
And these types of responses (and the comments in the article) is why there will always be an "us" vs "them" attitude.
Do you think that you are going to sit down with him and change his mind? He went into this with a set agenda, you are not going to bring him to the light. The real issue is people reading his column and the responses. There again, I'm sure that he picked the most irrational ones to win his strawman arguement.
Us versus them, and we are the problem? See what happens when people are trying to attend a Trump rally.
Why should we not have a UvT attitude when the them is trying to take away our rights with lies and misdirection.
so the hit piece he did we should just praise him and accept it ?
I know I don't believe in cowering into their tactics or backing down :)
there will always be a us vs them because of people like him who lie and make things up and are not good people and I stand up to those kind !
And these types of responses (and the comments in the article) is why there will always be an "us" vs "them" attitude.
It's always the loud mouths that are morons. -.-
QFT
You know what I did when I read the article? I ignored it and went with my life. It's that simple. If your only two responses to the article are to praise the author or call him a pussy then maybe you shouldn't own a gun.
Gun owners are their own worst enemy (look at all the stupidity in the "overheard in a gunshop" thread). There seems to be more emotional uproar over Orlando than Newtown (you know, where a bunch of 6 and 7 year olds were murdered) because the guy who did it was Muslim.
In times like these I ask WWACD (Army Chief) as I'm sure he would never stoop so low and resort to name calling.
QFT
You know what I did when I read the article? I ignored it and went with my life. It's that simple. If your only two responses to the article are to praise the author or call him a pussy then maybe you shouldn't own a gun.
Gun owners are their own worst enemy (look at all the stupidity in the "overheard in a gunshop" thread). There seems to be more emotional uproar over Orlando than Newtown (you know, where a bunch of 6 and 7 year olds were murdered) because the guy who did it was Muslim.
In times like these I ask WWACD (Army Chief) as I'm sure he would never stoop so low and resort to name calling.
So you find name calling childish but then you actually suggest that anyone who expresses an opinion on the author of an anti gun hit piece shouldn't have a gun? Who appointed you second amendment hall monitor? I guess in your mind everyone who took issue with Jim Zumbo should also not have a gun?
If you decide to not have an opinion, that is your right. Don't start speaking for my rights or the rights of others.
You are correct about one thing, "some" gun owners are our worst enemies. But that's an opinion so I guess we both need to turn in all our guns. Being critical of other gun owners is childish you know.
I am not against opinions, just the ones who want to yell from the rooftops over some minor BS that changes nothing (in the long term). Tell me what good does it do to send angry letters to an obviously anti gun author other than for him to reprint them in a followup article? It pretty much reinforces the stereotype (to their readers) that most gun owners are fudds.
This goes for all other subject as well, not just guns. My personal viewpoint is that most of the general public is stupid and yelling back and forth with no substance doesn't solve anything. It just makes it easier for me to avoid them. I just read your sig line and that's probably me.
Outlander Systems
06-18-16, 20:23
Bro, I just checked both pockets, and I'm fresh outta ****s to give about what flatulence-wafting NY pseudo-intellectuals think.
The Northeastern US might as well be an alien planet. If the lifestyle up there was so great, they'd spend more time living it, loving it, and less time trying to dictate what the **** I do back here in America.
I am not against opinions, just the ones who want to yell from the rooftops over some minor BS that changes nothing (in the long term). Tell me what good does it do to send angry letters to an obviously anti gun author other than for him to reprint them in a followup article? It pretty much reinforces the stereotype (to their readers) that most gun owners are fudds.
This goes for all other subject as well, not just guns. My personal viewpoint is that most of the general public is stupid and yelling back and forth with no substance doesn't solve anything. It just makes it easier for me to avoid them. I just read your sig line and that's probably me.
no you did not ignore it !
you came here and started venting on US !!!!
funny how some do that on forums ? claim they do not care and take the high road pat themselves on the back and can't even see the irony in what they just did :) ahhaahahhahaahahahah
QFT
You know what I did when I read the article? I ignored it and went with my life. It's that simple. If your only two responses to the article are to praise the author or call him a pussy then maybe you shouldn't own a gun.
Gun owners are their own worst enemy (look at all the stupidity in the "overheard in a gunshop" thread). There seems to be more emotional uproar over Orlando than Newtown (you know, where a bunch of 6 and 7 year olds were murdered) because the guy who did it was Muslim.
In times like these I ask WWACD (Army Chief) as I'm sure he would never stoop so low and resort to name calling.
Well since I am in the pharmaceutical industry......
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Bro, I just checked both pockets, and I'm fresh outta ****s to give about what flatulence-wafting NY pseudo-intellectuals think.
The Northeastern US might as well be an alien planet. If the lifestyle up there was so great, they'd spend more time living it, loving it, and less time trying to dictate what the **** I do back here in America.
This. New York state can have pretty countryside. Everyone should visit NYC at least once in their lives because...
They will learn that it is not high heels and cosmopolitan living with erudition.
It's pickpockets, guys trying to hustle, pushy people, and huge cockroaches pilloring out of open grates. Everything is expensive and the famous brooklyn tap water tastes like bottled water or something I put through my Brita.
So they move to other places, bitch about how things "should" be, and are simply unpleasant.
I enjoy living in a Confederate state because regardless of occasional Bible Belt silliness, I know I have my gun rights and nobody hassling me.
I'm at a point in life where I know what I like and I like to be left alone.
And in the unlikely scenario I was accosted on my own time by a villainous ruffian seeking to rob me, I am literally spoilt for choice on how I can end his criminal career.
Juxtaposed with having to call 911 or beg mercy as is the NYC way.
Had people been CCWing in Orlando, that could've ended better.
Because not everyone has a privileged life. Sheltered from the woes of the world.
I was reading up on some old Louis Awerbuck articles and he said something like the last man standing on the hill will be a tough old bastard with a Mauser if society ever truly shit the bed.
Anyways.....yeah
Crow Hunter
06-18-16, 21:22
Firearms aside, he writes like a 7th grader and very, very recklessly tosses around words of meaning with total irresponsibility.
PTSD is a real, all too real, condition that meets certain medical criteria. People do struggle with it as a result of severely traumatic experiences. Usually where mortality or severe injury was a factor.
What Kuntzman meant to say was that he went shooting and didn't like it and probably wouldn't do it on his own time.
Weapons of Mass Destruction are weapons that are CBRN in nature. Chemical, Biological, Radioactive, Nuclear. Meant to incur the terminology of megadeath, which numbers at a minimum in the millions. Usually at the nuclear level. Other WMDs usually chemical incur death at a minimun of hundreds to thousands with the deployment of at least one vector/device.
WMDs were used in Europe, Japan, China, and against the Kurds. Only twice have anything atomic been used in anger. However during weapons testing many men, taking precautions were exposed to lethal radiation during the Cold War. All WMDs and munitions depots require Secret to Top Secret clearance just to guard.
A carbine is a Small Arm. Shoulder fired and carried by one man. Lethality is determined by target and user level of training. Individual lethality potential is usually in the tens under "ideal" circumstances.
What Kuntzman meant to say is that AR-15s are Small Arms which actions and efficacy are dictated by the user for evil or good. While he may not desire one of his very own, they fall well within the scope of reasonableness.
First Amendment infringement is when you are hauled off to jail or detained without trial or charge by a government body. Other individuals, without assistance from the government. cannot infringe upon another's First Amendment rights. At mininum they disagree and at worst they are committing an individual crime of assault; a crime divorced from anything to do with Amendments. The NRA does not "bully". The NRA lobbies on behalf of paying members who seek to preserve through court and legislation their individual rights, which can be and are acted upon by agency of government.
What Kuntzmam meant to say is that he published a public article, opened a means of being contacted, and other people advised him that they disagreed with him and found numerous flaws in his journalism. Furthermore the NRA does not represent his views and likely he will not join and get a free hat.
Kuntzman goes on to attempt to reverse psychology by declaring himself effeminate as means of taking the 'high road'. Ultimately, he just outs himself as being a wuss.
Man that was good.
You really should look into getting published somewhere.
U rite gud.
:cool:
Man that was good.
You really should look into getting published somewhere.
U rite gud.
:cool:
Thanks. Other people have said that. I've considered it . Beats my current vocation.
I am not against opinions, just the ones who want to yell from the rooftops over some minor BS that changes nothing (in the long term). Tell me what good does it do to send angry letters to an obviously anti gun author other than for him to reprint them in a followup article? It pretty much reinforces the stereotype (to their readers) that most gun owners are fudds.
This goes for all other subject as well, not just guns. My personal viewpoint is that most of the general public is stupid and yelling back and forth with no substance doesn't solve anything. It just makes it easier for me to avoid them. I just read your sig line and that's probably me.
I don't think a writer for the NY Daily News writing a hit piece on AR-15s is a minor thing and it was done to create a negative view of the gun as if it is somehow "more powerful" than any deer rifle chambered in .223.
It is the same "good guns" and "bad guns" classification that we dealt with for 10 years under the Clinton Ban. Perhaps you don't remember that time, I do and I don't want to return to it, especially since it's likely to be on a permanent basis next time.
Calling this journalist on his bullshit is no different than calling out somebody who writes articles suggesting minorities shouldn't be allowed to vote. It's still just an opinion, but as it's intended to influence and deny people civil rights, I think it needs to be called out for what it is.
If this were just some idiot blabbering away on some internet forum nobody would care. There are literally thousands of them on places like DUh.com just as there are thousands of idiots who don't think black people should be allowed to vote on other websites.
But when a journalist or a politician attempts to influence public opinion in a way that denies people their very rights, then we really do need to scream "bullshit" from the rooftops and let them know it is not acceptable to those of us who wish to retain our rights.
And yes, they stereotype gun owners (and guns for that matter, ironically the black ones are really scary and extra dangerous), but no politely worded reply will change that anymore than a polite rebuttal to a KKK newsletter would change the opinions expressed there. But imagine if the same crap written in a KKK newsletter was written in the NY Daily Times.
In either case the reply need not be polite but should be as firm as possible in expressing how unacceptable an attack on a basic civil right is.
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-18-16, 23:44
If your only two responses to the article are to praise the author or call him a pussy then maybe you shouldn't own a gun.
Huh? WTF are you talking about? Everyone that considers what you post should linger on the inherent stupidity of this statement.
Your threshold for calling a political hack a twat is to lose your ability to own a gun?
I like smart trolls that at least make me think. I'm trying to figure out what your major malfunction is.
guess we cant call the author a pussy anymore since he just found himself a johnson :)
sorry mate couldn't resist
If your only two responses to the article are to praise the author or call him a pussy then maybe you shouldn't own a gun.
from the author:
If illegally modified to fully automatic mode, it doesn’t take any imagination to see dozens of bodies falling in front of your barrel.
Quite pathetic really.
Millions of gun owners, including soldiers and vets use the AR15 without issue. Even children have no issue with firing one.
can see his brain on this one :)
well of course we have seen it in the movies you just kinda point it in the direction and everyone gets shot you don't even need to aim them !
I have seen it in countless movies !!!!!
and all the anti gun folks starring in the movies have told me its that easy !!! and they should know since they are using these professionally
from the author:
If illegally modified to fully automatic mode, it doesn’t take any imagination to see dozens of bodies falling in front of your barrel.
Quite pathetic really.
Millions of gun owners, including soldiers and vets use the AR15 without issue. Even children have no issue with firing one.
Bro, I just checked both pockets, and I'm fresh outta ****s to give about what flatulence-wafting NY pseudo-intellectuals think.
The Northeastern US might as well be an alien planet. If the lifestyle up there was so great, they'd spend more time living it, loving it, and less time trying to dictate what the **** I do back here in America.
Besides...nobody's retiring and moving up north...
Just sayin'
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I wonder what men like my grandfather, who was on the USS Boston in WWII would think of this guy? Men who VOLUNTARILY assed up and experienced the triple 8's bombarding volcanic ash, while the oerlikens swatted away the zeroes and kamikazes. Shit he later wouldn't even talk about.
This guy hasn't seen any scary shit IMO.
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I wonder what men like my grandfather, who was on the USS Boston in WWII would think of this guy? Men who VOLUNTARILY assed up and experienced the triple 8's bombarding volcanic ash, while the oerlikens swatted away the zeroes and kamikazes. Shit he later wouldn't even talk about.
This guy hasn't seen any scary shit IMO.
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That's the thing, the reason there are people that have this line of thinking is because they have lived in a safety net all of their life. They do not realize there are people in this world that want to see you dead just for the hell of it. Just because they have never had to defend themselves before means that nobody else should have to either (with an "assault" weapon).
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BrigandTwoFour
06-19-16, 10:14
As someone who spent four years as a launch officer awaiting the presidential order to launch up to 50 nuclear armed Minuteman III missiles, and as someone who has spent years studying & teaching about nuclear conflict, I find prohibitionists who call any small arm a "WMD" to be utterly foolish.
Dude wrote a follow on article. He's butthurt he got called out and had his prissy manhood questioned. Now he's making gun rights a gender issue.
Link for those who care to read it. "To Gun Lovers, You Can't Even Have An Opinion On Assault Rifles" (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/gun-lovers-opinion-assault-rifles-article-1.2674555)
Eurodriver
06-19-16, 10:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_08uJgeIEyk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_08uJgeIEyk
Vid won't load for me. Do you have a direct link?
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By calling this guy a pussy we insult those with such a device between their legs who own and shoot ARs all the time. Poorest excuse for a man I have seen in a long time.
or is it a man ?
https://www.m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=40100&d=1466359049
40100
By calling this guy a pussy we insult those with such a device between their legs who own and shoot ARs all the time. Poorest excuse for a man I have seen in a long time.
The LGS should've handed Kuntzman this one.
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http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160619/8cb04a10faddf3190e3e08b39369351c.jpg
About the only thing I can say to the douche that wrote the article.
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BoringGuy45
06-19-16, 13:43
It's funny, the first time I fired an AR-15, the first thing that struck me was how easy it was to shoot. I had less PTSD and more of an erection lasting longer than 4 hours.
It's funny, the first time I fired an AR-15, the first thing that struck me was how easy it was to shoot. I had less PTSD and more of an erection lasting longer than 4 hours.
First thing I noticed was all the noise and movement in the stock. I was used to pump shotguns and bolt action precision rifles. I had shot semi-auto .22s, but nothing moves in the stock on those. It took me a minute to get used to that noise and movement up against my cheek and learn to ignore and accept it. After shooting 12 gauges and .308s for years, the lack of felt recoil was astounding to me on an AR.
I did not experience any sexual arousal on that day. Well… at least not while I was at the range shooting the AR… :D
LowSpeed_HighDrag
06-19-16, 19:04
And these types of responses (and the comments in the article) is why there will always be an "us" vs "them" attitude.
Are you joking/trolling? Are you Kuntzman in disguise? Am I missing something? Should all just say good article and move along then?
Firing an M16 for the first time was meh...
Firing my SR-25 for the first time felt like a Foreigner song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wln6NX0V4AQ&app=desktop
That one to be exact.
Too easy to shoot ---> ban them all
Too difficult to shoot ----> ban them all
See how this works?
If an AR feels like a bazooka, what does a bazooka feel like? New York urban bubble coddled assclowns are making a mockery of the English language and logic
Yeah how does he know what a Bazooka recoil is like?
Why not a Javelin, or a Carl Gustav, or a Panzerfaust?
Why always a Bazooka?
I would pay 5 dollars to see him shoot a .55 Boys or a Lahti. Or sone of that Finnish mess them dudes used in the Winter Wars. Buncha scandinavian devil worshippers hepped up on crystal meth and code red mountain dew killing the Soviet Union.
I don't recall them bitching. Hell they would LAUGH at an AR15
Eurodriver
06-19-16, 21:45
I've never shot a Bazooka. I have, however, fired an AT4.
There is zero recoil whatsoever. The rocket simply fires out of the tube. Is a Bazooka inherently different than an AT4 and if so - how does he know?
I've never shot a Bazooka. I have, however, fired an AT4.
There is zero recoil whatsoever. The rocket simply fires out of the tube. Is a Bazooka inherently different than an AT4 and if so - how does he know?
The AT4 is technically a recoil-less gun, a bazooka is a rocket launcher. I haven't fired either, but I'd imagine the AT4 would have more recoil than a Bazooka lol.
Firing an M16 for the first time was meh...
Firing my SR-25 for the first time felt like a Foreigner song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wln6NX0V4AQ&app=desktop
That one to be exact.
I can related, first time I fired a PE90 or a MP5. Nice music selection. Although I felt a bit more like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cc39bU4GZ0
The one that left the biggest impression on me by far has always been the MG42 and HK21.
Both were more like...
https://youtu.be/1iwC2QljLn4
But the one that did me in was the 338 LM. AAC had one at the silencer shoot at the Red Hill Range when they first came out with the Titan can. 1st one I ever got behind. I sighted down on the front brake rotor on a car they had to shoot at a tssss, the rotor went airborne. That 1 shot later cost me nearly $7k. I was haunted by the AI AX magnum until I got one. Looking back, the 338 was most definitely this, which in line with the 80's Satan scare if you play this track in reverse it sings praises of the .338 round.
https://youtu.be/17lkdqoLt44
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-20-16, 07:52
Suppressed MP5?
https://youtu.be/izGwDsrQ1eQ
Digital_Damage
06-20-16, 08:30
I've never shot a Bazooka. I have, however, fired an AT4.
There is zero recoil whatsoever. The rocket simply fires out of the tube. Is a Bazooka inherently different than an AT4 and if so - how does he know?
No pre-ignition charge.
Was one of the reasons the M67 was developed.
I've never shot a Bazooka. I have, however, fired an AT4.
There is zero recoil whatsoever. The rocket simply fires out of the tube. Is a Bazooka inherently different than an AT4 and if so - how does he know?
Howdy, I chew Bazooka Bubblegum and have a Bazooka Joe tat. The nice thing about Bazooka Bubblegum is it absorbs recoil. Think of it as a chewable, malleable, mouth guard to prevent concussion. I've fired several M72 LAW's while chewing Bazooka and have felt no recoil, a testament to it's recoil absorbing abilities. It also helps me control the Beretta during full auto 'clip' dumps.
http://www.bubblegum-comics.com/BazookaJoe.html
Lol...... The writer should go shoot an MKA 1919 and then get back to us......lol.........
Don't even need that. Id like to see him get to 5 rounds from a 100 year old WW1 rifle from any country of his choosing.
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Don't even need that. Id like to see him get to 5 rounds from a 100 year old WW1 rifle from any country of his choosing.
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I have a 1903 Springfield with a scant stock that should do the trick.
I have a 1903 Springfield with a scant stock that should do the trick.
I have an Enfield and a few Mosins he can try as well. Can borrow a Mauser from a buddy
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Boba Fett v2
06-20-16, 15:48
I like it when anti-gun reporter's plans backfire: http://www.progressivestoday.com/leftist-journalist-tries-buy-ar15-gets-denied-violent-past/
I've never shot a Bazooka. I have, however, fired an AT4.
There is zero recoil whatsoever. The rocket simply fires out of the tube. Is a Bazooka inherently different than an AT4 and if so - how does he know?
The Stinger missiles I used to shoot fire a 22 pound projectile with no recoil. You absolutely want to keep your mouth closed when you fire one though. I learned that lesson the hard way! :fie:
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-20-16, 16:15
I like it when anti-gun reporter's plans backfire: http://www.progressivestoday.com/leftist-journalist-tries-buy-ar15-gets-denied-violent-past/
Everyone should read this link for a good chuckle. Considering it is in IL make sit even more funny. The cluelessness of the reporter and his inherent bias going into his 'research' is very telling.
I like it when anti-gun reporter's plans backfire: http://www.progressivestoday.com/leftist-journalist-tries-buy-ar15-gets-denied-violent-past/
So instead of owning up to his prohibited person status for being an alchy and a wife beater, he turns it into a great big conspiratorial circle jerk because the laws in place did their job? Unless that guy is a big time newspaper guy; I highly doubt anyone knew who he was, or cared.
Not even Pravda was ever even THAT full of crap.
I seriously doubt his domestic arrest really slipped his mind.
I like it when anti-gun reporter's plans backfire: http://www.progressivestoday.com/leftist-journalist-tries-buy-ar15-gets-denied-violent-past/Enjoyed reading. "Steinberg is asked to show his FOID card, which is, apparently, some kind of Star Of David for gun buyers in Illinois."
wildcard600
06-20-16, 17:45
I like it when anti-gun reporter's plans backfire: http://www.progressivestoday.com/leftist-journalist-tries-buy-ar15-gets-denied-violent-past/
What a piece of work that clown is. Love how he cries that there is a double standard because his drunk wife beating piece of shit ass gets denied a sale but claims "Were that same standard applied to the American public, there would be a whole lot fewer guns sold."
The Chicago Sun Times must be really hard up for writers. I should get my cat to walk over my keyboard for a couple of minutes everday and get my own column.
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-20-16, 18:03
Enjoyed reading. "Steinberg is asked to show his FOID card, which is, apparently, some kind of Star Of David for gun buyers in Illinois."
How did this guy get a FOID card? Can you get one day of purchase?
All you people with young daughters and wives need to make a viral YT and Facebook video. Why Hillary do you want to strip women of their defenses?
This one not a little girl but I like it ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T3qjpZB6ME
So instead of owning up to his prohibited person status for being an alchy and a wife beater, he turns it into a great big conspiratorial circle jerk because the laws in place did their job? Unless that guy is a big time newspaper guy; I highly doubt anyone knew who he was, or cared.
Not even Pravda was ever even THAT full of crap.
I seriously doubt his domestic arrest really slipped his mind.
Yep. Love how he just assumes everyone else with a history of substance abuse and domestic violence is either approved or simply told to come back "after hours...with cash."
I think this is why most anti gun people are anti gun, they are bad people who shouldn't have guns and they assume the same is true for everyone else.
Yep. Love how he just assumes everyone else with a history of substance abuse and domestic violence is either approved or simply told to come back "after hours...with cash."
I think this is why most anti gun people are anti gun, they are bad people who shouldn't have guns and they assume the same is true for everyone else.
Qualitatively it's been my experience that left leaning are less trustworthy in general and frankly lower quality people in general.
I'd argue it's well reflected in contemporary politics.
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FromMyColdDeadHand
06-20-16, 22:39
Is he in a database that NICS caught, or did the store, knowing who he was and what he was up to, research him and deny him based on their own information?
Qualitatively it's been my experience that left leaning are less trustworthy in general and frankly lower quality people in general.
I'd argue it's well reflected in contemporary politics.
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I know a shitload of "soccermom" families that are all really nice but vote Democrat because it seems like the nice thing to do and they only thing they know about guns is that they are often used in crime.
But "activist Democrats" are an entirely different group. I put them in pretty much the same category as gang members.
Nor do I need the sense of security, false though it may be, that guns bring.
From the article. I find this hilarious as all their schemes their agenda brings forth are all about false security. HAHAHAHAHA! Fools.
Had I ever been convicted on charges of domestic abuse? No.
Then he lies on a federal document. Wow.
Beside, they knew I planned to immediately sell it back to them.
So the store illegally selling to a prohibited person is ok, when you plan to sell it back?
Liberal logic=idiocy.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160621/1ad9fb5d32c985ba95dbd112189dcbbb.jpg
Yeah. People of loose morality assume everyone is like that.
I knew one cat who thought everyone was trying to screw his wife(they weren't), but would brag about all these other women he had on the side.
He was not a person I was very fond of.
Rightly or wrongly some people still get their Weltanschauung from Westerns and the occasional Nicholas Sparks or Fred Forsythe book.
Not everyone is a wife swapping, philandering, wine sipping, "cosmopolitan" city boy.
Firing an M16 for the first time was meh...
Firing my SR-25 for the first time felt like a Foreigner song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wln6NX0V4AQ&app=desktop
That one to be exact.
That is such fantastic mental imagery....lol...
I see it like a movie. Cue foreigner music, a startled firefly as he stands back up, pausing, looking lovingly at the machine before him. As if his entire life and reason for being was for this one moment. Then the slow pan away and zoom in till he's out of the frame.
So instead of owning up to his prohibited person status for being an alchy and a wife beater, he turns it into a great big conspiratorial circle jerk because the laws in place did their job? Unless that guy is a big time newspaper guy; I highly doubt anyone knew who he was, or cared.
Not even Pravda was ever even THAT full of crap.
I seriously doubt his domestic arrest really slipped his mind.
I want to know did he fail the NICS, fill in the 4478 truthfully, or falsely?
Yes Hillary, it does make a difference....
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-22-16, 10:15
I want to know did he fail the NICS, fill in the 4478 truthfully, or falsely?
Yes Hillary, it does make a difference....
Me too. It sounds like the store did its own research and decided not to sell him it. The part about alcohol abuse is what stands out to me.
I think he past the nics check because he was not convicted. The store just decided on their own based on public records of his alcohol/spouse abuse that they didn't want to sell.
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Wouldn't the store, like most, reserve the right to refuse business to anyone?
If they didn't want to sell the reporter a gun, they don't have to.
Wouldn't the store, like most, reserve the right to refuse business to anyone?
If they didn't want to sell the reporter a gun, they don't have to.
That doesn't apply to cakes so why should it apply to guns?
That doesn't apply to cakes so why should it apply to guns?
Ironic isn't it? Part of the ATF's deal is that the encourage dealers to do not do transactions they are not comfortable with.
Wouldn't the store, like most, reserve the right to refuse business to anyone?
If they didn't want to sell the reporter a gun, they don't have to.
This guy didn't buy one he just rented it for like 3 rounds
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Moose-Knuckle
06-24-16, 04:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc0TxHojKUM
http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii551/PalmguyFL/kuntzman_zpsl9uxmmkq.png
lawusmc0844
07-03-16, 13:59
The "guy" just looks like a smug, raging leftist white guilt pussy, his face offends me lol
I know some raging leftist pussies. Associating them with this guy is an insult too them.
Outlander Systems
07-03-16, 15:01
Moose...
...that was awesome!
BoringGuy45
07-03-16, 15:23
That doesn't apply to cakes so why should it apply to guns?
It's wrong to apply to anything. Until I have received the legal tender that I determined a fair trade for whatever product I am selling, that product is MY property. I should be under no obligation to sell my property to anyone. I support a merchant's right to refuse service, whether it's for guns or wedding cakes.
Being a gun salesman, even if the law REQUIRED me to sell to absolutely anyone and I would face jail time for refusal, I am 250% certain that I would STILL be thrown under the bus and face charges if one of my customers used the gun I sold him in a crime.
Ironic isn't it? Part of the ATF's deal is that the encourage dealers to do not do transactions they are not comfortable with.
The most surprising about the Orlando shooting was that the AG hasn't yet sued the gun stores that turned down the PODS shooter for discriminating against a Muslim.
http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii551/PalmguyFL/kuntzman_zpsl9uxmmkq.png
Staring to become obvious he's in it for the shock factor.
We'll probably see him on msnbc with his own show now.
Staring to become obvious he's in it for the shock factor.
We'll probably see him on msnbc with his own show now.
Yep, this is an idiot that once mocked is best ignored.
Moose-Knuckle
07-04-16, 05:34
Moose...
...that was awesome!
If you follow Matt Best on FB (MBest11x) he had a funny one up where he is firing a semi-auto Barrett off hand making fun of this twat "reporter". He hasn't posted it on his YT channel otherwise I would have embedded that one too.
If you follow Matt Best on FB (MBest11x) he had a funny one up where he is firing a semi-auto Barrett off hand making of fun of this twat "reporter". He hasn't posted it on his YT channel otherwise I would have embedded that one too.
https://www.facebook.com/mbest11x/videos/855066297970372/
Moose-Knuckle
07-05-16, 03:50
https://www.facebook.com/mbest11x/videos/855066297970372/
LOL, that is the one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbV2uYk1VNs&app=desktop
This is a wispy Japanese girl dressed up like a maid shooting a Barrett Light .50.
She comes from a land where you gotta be rich and connected to get a smoothbore shotgun. She seems okay to me.
Moose-Knuckle
07-06-16, 04:23
Ah yes, the old Internet Rule #34, so if you have a Japanese girl/French Maid/.50 BMG itch they got you covered.
Ah yes, the old Internet Rule #34, so if you have a Japanese girl/French Maid/.50 BMG itch they got you covered.
She has a brilliant prone position.
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