Pistol Accuracy Thread

[MegademiC]

This thread is to post offhand pistol groups, preferably 25 or 50yds groups on a b8 (but doesn't have to be), and to discuss what you've done to improve your accuracy. 10 shot groups prefered.

Im getting back into pistol shooting after some distractions for a few months. I quickly found that my skills greatly deminished, to the point I could hit a 3x5 at 25yds 2 out of 10 shots.

I found I was sinking too much finger on the trigger. This caused round to go left and high (I don't know why).

After revisit the basics and re discovering the finger placement, I shot this. Not great, probably not good, but it's much closer to where I was a year or so ago. The horizontal stringing is clearly me, possibly due to sights.


M&P40, 25yds, b8, winchester ranger bonded, Ameriglo idots operator pro
93-4x
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh63/vinnyraf870/20160625_192437_zpsqoafelgg.jpg (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/vinnyraf870/media/20160625_192437_zpsqoafelgg.jpg.html)

[Antonio5005]

I don't have any target examples but I will say that this has happened and does happen to me for various reasons. If I haven't shot in a while or I swap to a different pistol or if the trigger weight and feel has changed, lighter or heavier.

I've discovered that if I spend some time dry firing the night before I head to the range, I'll shoot much better. When dry firing I'll watch the front sight like a hawk and if I see any wiggle or twitching in the front sight, I'll adjust my grip a little by applying small amounts of pressure here and there until it stops moving. Then I'll dry fire several times with that grip. I'll put the pistol down, pick it up, dry fire. Draw from a holster and dry fire. I'll repeat this until I feel like it's natural. Then on range day I'm shooting great!

Again this only happens if I haven't shot in a while or if I'm shooting something different or I've modified the trigger.

Edit: When adjusting my grip while dry firing; like you, I've discovered too much or too little trigger finger placement can make a difference. I'll adjust accordingly.

[Talon167]

I do have a couple pictures as I was curious myself.

This first one is one of the best. I've always shot my USP45 well. It's a Custom Combat and came with Novak fiber optic sights from the factory. This is a group at 25 yards (12 rounds):

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d135/Talnz167/Cannons/P9040001_zpsukknmzy8.jpg

Next is my Glock 17 "build." Also has a FO front sight (Warrens). It also has a Zev trigger and a Wilson Combat barrel, which probably doesn't hurt (15 rounds).

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d135/Talnz167/Cannons/P9040002_zpss5keu725.jpg

Last is my Sig 226 SAO. I love this pistol as well. One of my better 25 yard groups (10 rounds):

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d135/Talnz167/Cannons/PC287598_zpsbgcqjg4p.jpg

[Mauser KAR98K]

This was done at 50 ft, one handed. USP9 with standard sights, running 124gr hollow points from Rocky Mountain Reloading.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7665/27225977505_0e7b43031d_o.jpg

[SW CQB 45]

I shoot a monthly LEO only accuracy match using a semi auto and a 4" revolver for points. The rules are somewhat stretched as its supposed to be duty weapons but one shooter uses a SW PPC 9. Wadcutter ammo is allowed.

it is 50 rounds, all point shoulder (no barricade) and timed on a B27 target.

2 rounds from the holster 3 seconds (4 times) 5 yd line
12 shots 25 seconds 7 yd line
12 shots 35 seconds 15 yd line
18 shots 90 seconds 25 yd line

this was fired on Saturday 6/25/16 as the first match in the season for me. I had to do a make up match due to an hand injury last month. I am usually clean out to 15 yard line. 25 yd line is a grizzly bear. I felt like I was moving all over the place and several times when the trigger "broke", I moved and got those damn 8s.

my first gun is my 5" colt 1911 with an action job, Heinie rear sight and Kart barrel fitted by Ray Harms

http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee412/SWCQB45/Gun/unnamed_zps4zu2m4jh.jpg (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/SWCQB45/media/Gun/unnamed_zps4zu2m4jh.jpg.html)

Ammo was my reloads 200 LWSC with 4.2 grains of N320.

I shot a horrible 491 out of a possible 500 using a B27 target
http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee412/SWCQB45/Gun/IMAG3612_zpszp63meny.jpg (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/SWCQB45/media/Gun/IMAG3612_zpszp63meny.jpg.html)

This was my make up match using the same pistol

494 out of 500
http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee412/SWCQB45/Gun/IMAG3614_zpscjenwdlo.jpg (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/SWCQB45/media/Gun/IMAG3614_zpscjenwdlo.jpg.html)

Revolver, is an old PD SW 686 4" which was tuned by Bob Jones (Mississippi) and has a patridge front sight.

http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee412/SWCQB45/Gun/IMAG3625_1_zpsmkyjgc73.jpg (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/SWCQB45/media/Gun/IMAG3625_1_zpsmkyjgc73.jpg.html)

Ammo was my reloads. 148 grain HBWC with 2.7 grains of WST

my first stage I shot a horrible 486 out of a 500. I don't have an image of the target.

my make up match.....495 out of 500

http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee412/SWCQB45/Gun/IMAG3616_zpscvh0epjy.jpg (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/SWCQB45/media/Gun/IMAG3616_zpscvh0epjy.jpg.html)

I hope to improve as the year goes on. I was having trouble getting a clear sight picture. It was very humid and I was dripping sweat and my glasses would not come clean....they would just smear.

in reference to what I have done to improve.....dry fire and focus on front sight and trigger control.

While last year I shot my best ever with around 495 averages with both guns, I want to increase my average and feel I am not improving on that. each range has it own unique challenges (sun in your face and wind conditions) but I feel my eyes and holding steadier with an occasional doink of the trigger is where I would like to see an improvement.

[wildcard600]

I find a pellet pistol to mess around with in the backyard really helps my handgun shooting. The ranges are short but any practice helps.

[MStarmer]

My accuracy standard is as long as I'm centered and "in the black" for the most part at 25yds I feel that's pretty good. That's my test for any gun I'm carrying is that I can get most of them in there and I'm good elevation and windage wise. I don't really have anything setup as a target gun per se' so I don't shoot for bullseye accuracy. Most of my guns have Ameriglo or HD sights on them which don't lend themselves to the tightest groups out there. This is one of my EDC pistols a Gen3 G27 and is phenomenally accurate and easy to shoot, off hand too!

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg68/mstarmer/IMG_0049.jpg (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/mstarmer/media/IMG_0049.jpg.html)

[AM-15]

40195

Getting ready for Camp Perry in a couple weeks to shoot the Presidents 100 and National Trophy Individual matches.

Beretta 92fs with fitted 1/32 twist KKM barrel.
20 shots on B8 target.
Off hand; of coarse; it is Bullseye shooting :)
197-11x

115gr Hornady XTP over 4.8gr VV-N340

Glad to see someone started a thread that i can relate to.

Clarence

[MegademiC]

40195

Getting ready for Camp Perry in a couple weeks to shoot the Presidents 100 and National Trophy Individual matches.

Beretta 92fs with fitted 1/32 twist KKM barrel.
20 shots on B8 target.
Off hand; of coarse; it is Bullseye shooting :)
197-11x

115gr Hornady XTP over 4.8gr VV-N340

Glad to see someone started a thread that i can relate to.

Clarence

Nice shooting and nice gun!

I've found that if my speed performance is going downhill, my 25yd accuracy is suffering. Once I get that back on track, the speed/accuracy just happens. Im going to dry fire all week and I'll get back out this weekend. We'll see if I can't improve my score. Once I get comfortable, I have some HAPs I'm going to load in some new brass to find what I can squeeze outta this thing (and myself).

Edit, to clarify my op: I've shot better with these sights, but when out of practice, I tend to shoot left for some reason. Once I get practice in, the poi drifts back to the center.

[SW CQB 45]

AM15

Nice!

Who did your action work and barrel install?



40195

Getting ready for Camp Perry in a couple weeks to shoot the Presidents 100 and National Trophy Individual matches.

Beretta 92fs with fitted 1/32 twist KKM barrel.
20 shots on B8 target.
Off hand; of coarse; it is Bullseye shooting :)
197-11x

115gr Hornady XTP over 4.8gr VV-N340

Glad to see someone started a thread that i can relate to.

Clarence

[evolDiesel]

I'm running a tricked out red dot on an M&P9 performance center, ported C.O.R.E. and I simply suck shit with my support hand. I'm subbing this thread for any pointers to improve my technique - thanks.

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[SW CQB 45]

i bought me a couple of ProHands (Gripmasters) one for home and one for work.

I too feel my support hand grip does not have the strength of my primary. While, it may take years to equal the strength, I am going to do my best this year to increase support hand strength (left).

I may not see any results/improvements for quite a while.

I bought an 9 and 11 lbs. My right hand easily compresses and can hold the 11 pounder for quite some time. My left (wuss) prefers the 9 (hahaha)

[MStarmer]

I have one of these I use, I like the fact that it's adjustable. And as far as sucking with the weak hand I try to practice with my SIRT pistol often. I keep it on my dryer with a target down at the end of the hall so that anytime I'm letting my dog outside I do (10) reps two hand / strong hand / weak hand.

https://www.amazon.com/Strengthener-Exerciser-Arthritis-Strengthening-Fitness/dp/B00JVR21FU/ref=sr_1_9_s_it?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1467133986&sr=1-9&keywords=hand+exerciser

[AM-15]

AM15

Nice!

Who did your action work and barrel install?


Dave Salyer, a bullseye gunsmith out of South Carolina built my pistol.

Kind of weird but been shooting pistols for years and got into competitive bullseye shooting about 9 years ago.
I can shoot one handed pretty well but using two hands feels so unnatural and awkward to me now :)

Clarence

[MegademiC]

Well I went out the other day, and was not able to get a clean 10Rd string. I'd pull 3,4 shots every time. One target had 6 in the 10 ring and two 8s, one 7, and one 9.

My group was much tighter on a 3x5 notecard. I have to hold about 4" low at 25 to hit the x an a 3x5 car set vertical seems to help. I modified some b8s I'm going to try next week, any may put a 3x5 on the b8 as a cheater.

I also found shooting about 1 shot per second did not open my groups up as much as I thought, but dropped my score about 4 or 5 points.

[BKennedy]

Yesterday with my brand new WC Brigadier Tactical at 25 yds using Fiochi 115 go ball ammo and shot/2 seconds tempo, kept a full magazine on a 3x5 card. Did this several times. What I need to work on is not pulling the trigger on a bad sight picture when I've gotten in to a tempo during a string of fire. I kept all my shots on the card but I'm sure the gun will do better.

Also, I need to make sure I stay hydrated, especially when it's 108 degrees out.

[okie john]

I'm running a tricked out red dot on an M&P9 performance center, ported C.O.R.E. and I simply suck shit with my support hand. I'm subbing this thread for any pointers to improve my technique - thanks.

No real tricks to it. Do the same stuff with your support hand that you'd do with your other hand and just give it time. The funny thing is that when support-hand shooting comes together, it really comes together. You don't have any bad habits to unlearn with your support hand, so don't be surprised if you end up able to shoot better with your support hand than with your strong hand.


Okie John