Lo-rise PEQ-2 mount?

[Armati]

Does anyone know of a low rise PEQ-2 mount? The issue mount raises the PEQ-2 a 1/4" or more off the rail. Is there anything that lowers the whole unit closer to the rail?

[Victor]

Does anyone know of a low rise PEQ-2 mount? The issue mount raises the PEQ-2 a 1/4" or more off the rail. Is there anything that lowers the whole unit closer to the rail?

Actually the issue mount is about the lowest profile out there. Due to the design of the PEQ mount slot (a female "V" slot sorta speak), the issue mount next to the KAC and ARMS SIR are the lowest. The Larue and standard ARMS PEQ mounts are a tad bit higher. Hope this helps.

Vic

[Armati]

Thanks.

Just looking at the pic online, the ARMS unit looked lower. I really like to run the PEQ-2 at 12:00, but I really wanted to get it completely out of my FOV.

[Frens]

what about the AD-PAK 2/4 Mount?
check the ADM web site ;)

[ChoppinFatTony]

First of all I would like to say that i am brand new to this forum thing, and would like to say thank you to everyone on this for having such a wealth of knowledge on here.

Now on to the PEQ-2.

Your FOV is really going to depend on what type optic ypu are going to run on your rifle. Before we switched to the PEQ-15's, i ran a PEQ-2 with at different times a 552 EO Tech, ACOG and Aimpoint 68. Never had any issues with the FOV. The only one that would give you a issue is the Aimpoint if there wasn't a riser in the mount.

[Failure2Stop]

I have come to prefer the PEQ-2 or 15 at 3 o'clock since they can be seen and mistaken for scope-shadow in a 4X ACOG when mounted forward at 12 on 20" barrels. You can reduce the visibility of the PEQ by moving it rearward on the top rail (depending on barrel length), but can wind-up with the IR flood illuminating the FSB.

[ChoppinFatTony]

In a perfect world, I would have been issued a weapon with a FF Rail and no FSP.

[KevinB]

The Larue mount is not noticeably heigher than the issue one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Iraq/CarbinePerfectionII002.jpg

When using either mount with a standard FSB I have never had a problem with Aimpoints, ACOG, EO's or the Short Dots.

I used to run my PEQ at 9' but the 12' seems to offer a lot more impact resistance (or protection would have been a better word)

I guess it helps if I add the stock mount pic
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Iraq/CarbinePerfection002.jpg

Sorry its not the same angle - but you get the idea.


The DBAL and Attila's are much higher than the PEQ-2 - and I am too low on the food chain to have a PEQ-15 and hand only finger****ed it briefly, but if its anything like the IPIM its around the same height as the PEQ-2.

[Iraqgunz]

I am trying to score a PEQ-15 right now and it is frustrating. A friend of mine just got a PEQ-14, but damn that thing is a beast. I am also looking at either the LaRue or ADM mount for my PEQ-2A.

[Armati]

Check out Kevin's first pic. See that space between the rail and the body of the PEQ-2? That is space I want to eliminate.

[KevinB]

KAC used to have a low FF RAS mount that also works with the URX. It bolted through the top rail hole

[Lynn Freshly]

Check out Kevin's first pic. See that space between the rail and the body of the PEQ-2? That is space I want to eliminate.

The KAC mount that KevinB spoke of will eliminate most of that gap. I will try to get a photo posted later.

http://www.operationparts.com/KAC_KNIGHTS_ARMAMENT_LOW_AN_PEQ_2_MOUNT_FOR_RAS_p/95326-1.htm

This is the mount. They do/did make a PAQ4 C mount that was a bit higher.

Lynn

[Lynn Freshly]

Here is the AN/PEQ 2A on the KAC mount that I posted about.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/hk24/DSC_3056.jpg

Don't think you can get one much lower, but I may be wrong.

Lynn

[Victor]

Here is the AN/PEQ 2A on the KAC mount that I posted about.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v697/hk24/DSC_3056.jpg

Don't think you can get one much lower, but I may be wrong.

Lynn

Yep, KAC is bout the lowest I worked with as well. I forgot that it is REALLY low with their sorta built in PEQ mount. Good pic!

Edited, also (I know it's a curse to mentione ARMS SIR system) but they also had a PEQ mounting system very similiar to the KAC which also sat VERY low. I think I still have that laying around here. Bi-Level SIR systems are still VERY good for 178mm Raptor objectives!

[Victor]

Larue makes the lowest mount available. Back from when guys using 416's didn't have APTIALs...

Email larue from a gov account to ask for it. It's been a few years & they might not even make it anymore.

I would like to see this version?

[Armati]

Thanks for all the input.

Ok, here is the current state of this project:

For $20 (and $10 shipping - WTF?) I got the ARMS #17 PEQ-2 adapter and mounted it to a #17 mount I scavenged off an old Surefire. In this configuration it sits higher than the issue mount. I guess the only up side is that it is less likely to shoot loose.

Like the KAC unit I think my best bet is to mount it directly to the rail. I need to get some additional fasteners to pull this off. I will post pic when I get it all together.

[Armati]

Edited, also (I know it's a curse to mentione ARMS SIR system) but they also had a PEQ mounting system very similiar to the KAC which also sat VERY low. I think I still have that laying around here. Bi-Level SIR systems are still VERY good for 178mm Raptor objectives!

Actually....

I am using a Bi-Level SIR. For some reason the ARMS site does not list this mount but it is in thier catalog:

http://www.mountsplus.com/thestore/prods/50003.html

If you have one I would love to buy it. Otherwise, do you know any other good dealer with this mount?

[Victor]

I'd give ARMS a call to see if they have it in stock. Ours is still in use for our NV demo work. Sorry.

Vic

[JSantoro]

You can reduce the visibility of the PEQ by moving it rearward on the top rail (depending on barrel length), but can wind-up with the IR flood illuminating the FSB.

Also, while it's rare, it's possible to get an aim laser that throws off a secondary beam, which has also been known to bounce off of the FSB. This isn't just an annoyance, any reflected laser energy is potentially hazardous to one's eyesight. If you have a magnified optic, any reflected laser energy from either the aim laser or flood will be magnified and focused directly onto your retina. And it's IR, so you don't blink or flinch.

With the aim laser of a PEQ-2 having an NOHD over 70m in HI and the flood having one over 200m, it's possible that any reflected energy might be enough to incur permanent damage to your macula without passing through an optic. A 4x32mm optic like the RCO magnifies these distances by a factor of about 4x. BUMED has cases of such damage on file. Unlikely to happen? Yes, but one has to ask themselves if their fine focus and ability to see at night is worth the risk. When we train MFAL devices, we strongly recommend against mounting it anywhere but the forwardmost position for this reason.

Gad, it sounds so much less pedantic when I'm kicking the class than when I type it out.

[Armati]

So, I changed things up again but I am keeping the PEQ-2. Anyone know who might still have a source for the KAC mount?

[patriot_man]

See if Charlie from operation parts can order you one.

I'm on the fence about getting one as well.

[KevinB]

I just had Jack send me up two, so I know we still have them.

Armati - if your still active, email Jack and I.



The Bi-Level SIR used to come with a flip front portion that did either 1913 or reversible to a low pro PEQ-2 mount.
I had one years ago, and then tossed it away when I saw some pitfalls with the SIR setup.

Standard Height KAC mount
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Weapons/PEQMounting001_zps2fffa9fa.jpg

Low to Standard Height comparison.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Weapons/PEQMounting002_zps6fab668a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Weapons/PEQMounting003_zpse05ed100.jpg

PEQ-2 on the low mount
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v193/EvilKev/Weapons/PEQMounting004_zpsf1aa67f3.jpg

[patriot_man]

Kevin, do they work with the KAC free float RAS rails?

[KevinB]

Yes - but you need to use the low profile back plate (or a nut threaded for standard camera attachment - like the RAS, ATM I forgot what that is).