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I have bought many pistols. Trying to find perfection, has been difficult.
I started with a Glock 38, which at the time somehow made sense to me.
From there I transitioned to the Glock 17, but it was too big for daily carry. I purchased this gun during the scare of 2008, and I really had wanted a Glock 19.
I abandoned Glocks because I felt the trigger was hindering me and I bought the second worst pistol I have owned the Bul M5.... malfunction city.
From their I went to the Springfield Loaded.... it sucked and had issues that made it spend more time at Springfield than in my holster. I could never trust it.
I bought a high end 1911, a Les Baer TRS. Great Pistol but even it malfunctioned when pushed hard at all day competitions and classes. The trigger and the accuracy though were amazing. I did win some single stack divisions and felt relatively confident with it, but at 3 pounds for 8+1 rounds of .45 it was cumbersome.
So I tried the Hi Power. The trigger was better than a Glock but it was still heavy and while more reliable than my les Baer it never reached reliability of my first two pistols.
I gave up and just switched to a PF-9 for pocket carry. I did this for a year. I hated that pistol so much that even though it easily slipped into a pocket I felt I was better defended with running away or getting hands on than using quite possibly the worst trigger on the planet.
Yesterday I finally got the Glock 19...... it took me spending 4500$ to get here. And yes it will need some trigger work ~150 to bring it to a level I am happy with, and about 120-150 on sights, and maybe a match grade barrel, but then I am done. All my G17 stuff (although the pistol is gone) will work for it as will most of the holsters for my G38 (and that pistol is long gone as well).
The G19 is the most expensive pistol I have come to, because I stubbornly tried to find better instead of just accepting it for what it is. A boringly reliable, pistol that just needs a little help to make it ergonomic.
Guns arre learning curve. You start at one point thinking at the time this THE gun for me, then things change and sometimes the ever evolving world of guns conspires against you. I started when DA/SA metal framed semiautos were it. I joined the "S&W gun of the month club" trying different calibers,sizes action types etc for a few years. Glocks, really!?!? There made of the same thing as my Rubbermaid pail I wash the cars with, never will own one...riiiight!! Fast foward and now my EDC is a G19 w/ a G26 backup soon to be a G42. Oh well it was fun/frustrating time
I'm pretty sure everyone goes through this. I went from an XD to Hk to M&P to CZ. Problem is I didn't sell any of them but the XD.
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wildcard600
07-10-16, 11:22
I did something similar for quite a few years looking for the "ultimate handgun".
I went looking to replace my DA/SA pistol cause it was "obsolete". Started by chasing the striker unicorn (Glock to S&W to FN) then deciding that the 1911 was IT (4 pistols later I ended up keeping one) before ending up right back where I started with DA/SA (Beretta and a couple of HK's).
I would have saved quite a lot of money if I hadn't listened to the hype train and just keep my original Beretta and added the HK's like I had wanted to.
Ill save you a few more dollars and tell you the match grade barrel isnt necessary. I have used the KKM and the Wilson Combat. The Wilson was noticeable for me but did nothing that I havent seen more skilled shooters do with the OEM barrel. Their stock barrels are actually quite good considering the price.
Yeah I am considering a Suarez trigger kit, and debating between trijicon HD or the Vickers tritium rear and front. Wilson seems to be out of the tritium fronts.
Trijicon HDs are nice. I have them in my M&P.
Don't have any other combat sight experience though as all of my other pistols are running competition FO sights.
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10-8 is another good option. I prefer FO always and the 10-8 FS has an additional support "beam" to protect the rod. Never had an issue on any gun.
HiViz has a FO FS that is completely shielded as wel.
On my 1911s I used Warren tactical black aerated rear and red FO front. It was awesome during day. Terrible at night. Of course my pistol had no rail I don't know if a light will light up the FO at all.
I have used my FO sights at night and with the weapon mounted light you can see your sights. It doesn't light them up and glow like the sun does but you can see the outline and get a good sight picture.
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teutonicpolymer
07-10-16, 12:49
Unless the lock up is noticeably bad on your Glock, benched accuracy is bad, you are using lead ammo, or you want it suppressed or comped then I'm not sure it needs a new barrel
The Dumb Gun Collector
07-10-16, 14:41
Same here, but it was much more expensive and it was a simple J-frame.
davebee456
07-11-16, 03:23
I agree with what you are saying. Glocks, SIG P226 , P228, Dan Wesson CBOB, TRP, Colt XSE, Hk P7M8 and etc, I cost a fortune to figure out
a Glock 19 and a small summer carry ( Shield 9mm, G43 or LCR ) for the 99 degree weather is really all i needed.
Carolina_Boostin
07-11-16, 04:23
My most expensive was a Springfield XD
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My most expensive still is the G19. Started with Ruger back in 01, went to Taurus then hi power, S&W 5906, finally couldn't avoid the Glock anymore. Bought one and it has been my daily carry for the last 7 or so years and yet I still find myself looking and buying other brands thinking it will be better. I don't know why I need better or what that even means. It's hard to beat a relatively slim, light, double stack reliable gun. But no....I have a Sig 228, 220, HK USP 40c, USP 9, 45 P2000, TRP. Not to mention a bunch of different Glocks. All these were bought after the G19.
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Not defining and parsing your requirements well can be expensive. I've personally only ever carried 4 pistols, of which 3 are still in rotation depending on dress.
Carried an M&P9C for years till I hopped on the SIG P320 train. Never had issues with it.
Now I have the P320 FS that I carry OWB in coat/tie situations and a P320C for IWB in jeans/polo type dress. #3 is a Bodyguard 380 that I pocket carry for quick trips out or when shorts/T-shirt are just too thin for IWB. If I ever found a reliable 9mm that could fit in a back pocket like the BG380 I might retire it but I doubt such a beast exists......
TactiCool1976
07-12-16, 01:17
I have bought many pistols. Trying to find perfection, has been difficult.
I started with a Glock 38, which at the time somehow made sense to me.
From there I transitioned to the Glock 17, but it was too big for daily carry. I purchased this gun during the scare of 2008, and I really had wanted a Glock 19.
I abandoned Glocks because I felt the trigger was hindering me and I bought the second worst pistol I have owned the Bul M5.... malfunction city.
From their I went to the Springfield Loaded.... it sucked and had issues that made it spend more time at Springfield than in my holster. I could never trust it.
I bought a high end 1911, a Les Baer TRS. Great Pistol but even it malfunctioned when pushed hard at all day competitions and classes. The trigger and the accuracy though were amazing. I did win some single stack divisions and felt relatively confident with it, but at 3 pounds for 8+1 rounds of .45 it was cumbersome.
So I tried the Hi Power. The trigger was better than a Glock but it was still heavy and while more reliable than my les Baer it never reached reliability of my first two pistols.
I gave up and just switched to a PF-9 for pocket carry. I did this for a year. I hated that pistol so much that even though it easily slipped into a pocket I felt I was better defended with running away or getting hands on than using quite possibly the worst trigger on the planet.
Yesterday I finally got the Glock 19...... it took me spending 4500$ to get here. And yes it will need some trigger work ~150 to bring it to a level I am happy with, and about 120-150 on sights, and maybe a match grade barrel, but then I am done. All my G17 stuff (although the pistol is gone) will work for it as will most of the holsters for my G38 (and that pistol is long gone as well).
The G19 is the most expensive pistol I have come to, because I stubbornly tried to find better instead of just accepting it for what it is. A boringly reliable, pistol that just needs a little help to make it ergonomic.
i started out the same way,,, watched a bunch of youtube videos on handguns, and was always meeeeehhhhh about Glocks, cuz everyone has one...
plus i am stubborn and dont like to just be a lemming and follow what everyone else does.. So my first two hand guns ended up being a Taurus G2 PT111 9mm and a Canik TPv92.. and i put a couple thousand rounds thru them, before the Taurus' recoil spring and buffer broke into pieces.. i also ended up buying a S&W m&P40c, which i had nothing but fail to feed issues with.. so in Feb, i ended up selling my Canik and M&P40c and buying a Glock 22, and the first day i had it, i ran several mags thru it, without any issue.. and it was then that i was like F-IT, and within the next two or three weeks, i bought a Glock 19 and Glock 21, and havent looked back.... i also have a Sig 1911, that i bought in Nov 15, and that thing runs like a champ, no issue.... but i rotate which gun i am using for a EDC.
but when i talked to a friend of mine about the whole ordeal, he said it best, glocks just work... they may not be pretty or flashy, but they work
Eurodriver
07-12-16, 06:01
That makes absolutely zero sense from a practical standpoint.
I mean, I get the wanting to be different aspect (actually I don't, but I know to some people that's a thing)
But we aren't talking about cars or designing a living room. Guns are tools. I buy Snap-On tools because they work, and the fact that lots of other people buy them because they work too makes me even more content in my purchases - not less.
Why do you think so many people, departments, and mil units Rock the Glock? I'll give you a hint - it isn't because they're lemmings. firearms are purchased and carried to get people home alive. Why wouldn't you want one of the most vetted and tested handguns ever made?
Summarized another way, the fact that hundreds of thousands of good guys are going to wake up today and put a Glock on their hip is a clue.
My most expensive purchase, to date, is my Glock 26.
Save for my rifles, of course.
Otherwise, my very first handgun, gifted to me when I was 18, was a Hi-Point JCP .40; I know... I owned a Hi-Point. And in .40 nonetheless.
The brick was solid, and kept me getting into the hobby, as well as gave me my first nightstand gun. It was reliable and runs like a top, but bulky as a mofo.
At 21 I purchased my first handgun, having attained my PTC cert, which was the first run of Canik TP9s. The v1. I got that for 299.99 and a free "introductory FFL transfer" from my PTC Instructor who ran his own Gunshop as well.
(I passed the cert/class with that hi-point, I remember my instructor actually being interested in shooting it because he had always refused to ever own a hi-point, he claims the trigger felt close to 20 pounds, but he could stack the rounds on target when he used it.)
I purchased a Glock 26 awhile back now, and I haven't looked back. Recently, the Canik has started acting up, I guess I have to realize that I put thousands of rounds, and thousands of dry fires on that pistol in the last few years. I have been planning on making a video review, as the issue pertains to the striker "cocking" back with the first DA trigger pull. It will release early, may give a light primer strike as it reaches the firing pin safety late, or it doesn't strike at all.
Interesting enough, it only happens when pressure is on the trigger being directed towards the right side of the firearm, like a weak handed (left handed) grip. Otherwise, the trigger engages and cocks the striker back just fine, only when that pressure is applied, it almost "jumps" the striker when it goes to pull it back. It still operates awesome in Single Action, and will be an good range gun for many years. But CAI say's it's outside of warranty and have directed me to Keith Billado, who does their out of warranty repairs. I have a feeling it will be close to 200 bucks, may as well put that into a new pistol.
But, meh, nonetheless, another +1 for glocks. I will be picking up either a P-09 or Glock 17 to replace the Canik's role of my "mid-size/large" handguns and leave the 26 to be my compact carry.
That makes absolutely zero sense from a practical standpoint.
I mean, I get the wanting to be different aspect (actually I don't, but I know to some people that's a thing)
But we aren't talking about cars or designing a living room. Guns are tools. I buy Snap-On tools because they work, and the fact that lots of other people buy them because they work too makes me even more content in my purchases - not less.
Why do you think so many people, departments, and mil units Rock the Glock? I'll give you a hint - it isn't because they're lemmings. firearms are purchased and carried to get people home alive. Why wouldn't you want one of the most vetted and tested handguns ever made?
Summarized another way, the fact that hundreds of thousands of good guys are going to wake up today and put a Glock on their hip is a clue.
Whole I agree 100% with what you said everyone arrives at that point differently. When I started I didn't know jack about guns. A gun is a gun so why should I pay $500 for a Glock when a used Ruger P95 is $200. I didn't know about forums back then.
After that I would buy something to see if I liked it better. Saw a USP on sale and knew they were good guns so bought it to try out. ...etc...etc.
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One of my cheapest gun purchases, Jenna II, is rapidly turning into one of my most expensive.
Jenna II is my recent purchase 'surplus' CZ75, mfg. circa 1992. She's Jenna II, because Jenna was already taken by my Jungle Carbine. I named her Jenna because, just like the porn star, she'd been rode hard and put away wet.
This baby has only been alive for 24 years. I didn't know you could pack so much crap into a gun in just 24 years. I had to use Kroil on just about every pin, and it took dribbling Kroil down the firing pin channel to get the firing pin spring out. And the one magazine I got was dented so badly it would be Kali legal.
She shot good after disassembly and cleaning, so I decided to remove what was left of the polycoat/enamel finish as well as the rust. We are about 35.00 into chemicals at this point, naval jelly didn't cut it, so I went to the big gun, 'aviation' paint stripper.
If you are a CZ person you know that not all CZ75 mags work in all CZ75's. I didn't know that and, as a result am hoping that the mec-gars and the CZ originals cross in the mail. Two hundred bucks on mags, get out of here. Getting ready to drop another 100.00 on sights - hopefully they will fit. I'm sure that within six months I have it off to Cummins or someone to have my guncoat job taken off and a decent finish applied.
At that point, it would have been cheaper to buy the suppressor ready CZ 75 SP-01 that I wanted, but, wait, they aren't in stock anyplace. But, what the hell, I'm retired now and have to have something to keep me off the streets. Having to buy my own ammo has also been a shock.
When I figure out how to post photos I'll give you the before and after of Jenna and Jenna II.
I started with S&W revolvers, then went to 1911's, then to Glocks. I'm still a better shot with the revolvers than I am with the Glocks. Both the revolvers and the Glocks have always been very reliable. Both of the 1911's I had occasionally malfunctioned. Lately, I've been getting into metal frame S&W autos, and I'm starting to really like shooting the 5906. The quest for the perfect handgun continues.
TactiCool1976
07-13-16, 01:12
it's weird that i look back at all of the handguns my dad has bought and he's really only had one turd of a gun.... a springfield 1911 .45 compact..... he bought it probably in 2002? idk and the thing is a POS that i wouldnt give to a enemy.. for some reason the brass extractor is weak as hell so you get stove pipes and all kinds of fail to extract issues.... some so bad you have need two people to fix it.. cuz the brass stays in the barrel..
yet all of his other handgun's have worked like a champ, taurus pt 140, a PT1911, S&W 99, revolver's galore sometimes it's just a learning experience with finding out which handguns are good and which are a POS....
KalashniKEV
07-13-16, 08:41
One of my cheapest gun purchases... rapidly turning into one of my most expensive.
'surplus' CZ75, mfg. circa 1992.
That's funny, my Pre-B was in great shape (I picked it out), great deal, great shooter, AND I discovered that most of the '75 mags I bought back in 2002 with my "CZ-75B MIL" Turkish overrrun were Pre-B mags.
I'd make that deal again like, BOOM.
That's funny, my Pre-B was in great shape (I picked it out), great deal, great shooter, AND I discovered that most of the '75 mags I bought back in 2002 with my "CZ-75B MIL" Turkish overrrun were Pre-B mags.
I'd make that deal again like, BOOM.
Oh, I'm having fun. This was listed as 'fair' at Buds online, so I knew what I was getting into, but I don't think the dang thing had ever been cleaned. She's bare frame right now, really not that banged up. Going to Harbor Freight to buy a blasting cabinet and airbrush. Going to see how she turns out. If it is decent, I'd like to buy another couple for the daughters.
KalashniKEV
07-14-16, 09:25
Oh, I'm having fun. This was listed as 'fair' at Buds online, so I knew what I was getting into, but I don't think the dang thing had ever been cleaned. She's bare frame right now, really not that banged up. Going to Harbor Freight to buy a blasting cabinet and airbrush. Going to see how she turns out. If it is decent, I'd like to buy another couple for the daughters.
Please post pics in a new thread, I'd like to see it.
I've noticed that the decent condition Israeli guns show up on gunbroker with Mach1, OK to bad on CDI, and just bad with Buds/Coles/sight unseen vendors.
It's a sad thing what those animals did to fine guns out of simple neglect, laziness, and a lack of individual soldier discipline coupled with the absence of leadership to enforce the standard... still I've been able to get some good deals on the decent ones.
By your reasoning, I have probably spent $50,000+ looking for the perfect gun. Next to last purchase was a Sphinx SDP Compact, just because I had never had a CZ based pistol. Love that gun. Last purchase was a Glock 19. Always wanted to like Glock, just never could. By the time I get everything in or back, I will have about $1500 in a Glock. Not sure how I feel about that.
Well I have made the essential improvements I needed to make the platform work for me.
I have added
Trijicon HD orange
Overwatcb Precision Tactical Trigger and - connector
Zev stainless FPS, spring, and 6lb trigger spring.
It is about as good as I can expect the trigger to be and it shoots well now no safeties are compromised and the trigger is somewhere between a 4.5lb 1911 and revolver as there is some movement of the trigger after the wall but before the break
Overall I am happy with it as is. It shoots accurate enough, so no bbl needed. I may work a bit on the frame to add more texture or may just use tape to get more traction.
I have a few import "Because I want them guns" but my Glock 21, 31 and 34 are my "killin' guns".
34 more than anything.... .45 is just a training scar left over from an impressionable age. I'm more apt to tote a G19 but don't have one. I want an FDE one just cause but not at the price some crackheads on GB or LGS are selling for.
cougar_guy04
07-22-16, 19:25
I did a bit of an evolution, but it wasn't as costly. I started with an XD-45 Service because .45 rules all and I bought into the grip angle schtick. I competed with that in USPSA and carried it for a few years. I won a Glock at a GSSF match and picked an OD G34. Added Warren sights and a competition trigger spring kit. So at this point I carry an XD (because 45) and am competing with a G34 (because gamer).
I graduated college and moved south, bought an XD-45 compact to carry and still competed with the G34. At some point, I had an epiphany that shooting thousands of rounds per years in USPSA with one platform but carrying a completely different one made no sense. From there I turned the XD-45 into a G19 and haven't looked back. I took the 34 back to stock springs, did the NY1/"-" connector trigger and did the same to the 19. A few more Glock 9mm pistols have been added to the fleet but all are setup the same way (Ext mag relapse, Warren sights, ext slide release, NY1/"-" trigger and smooth face trigger). Everything else is just a plaything/just because/experiment to me.
I've resisted the temptation to chase the wonder-9 flavor of the week (M&P9, H&K P30/P2000, CZ P-07, H&K VP9, Sig P320, etc.) for my workhorse Glocks and have been pretty content.
I, as others, have learned it simply boils down to finding the right gun for you. And unfortunately it takes trial and error and a lot of trigger time to get there. I started on M&P's. Owned a pistol in every single caliber they made trying to find why I just couldn't shoot them to their potential. I did Apex trigger work to the fs 9 and fs 45. It helped, but didn't fix my lack of accuracy.
I then went out and bought a glock 19, it was good and arguably better shooting for me than the M&P's. Unfortunately I still seemed to be inconsistent. My buddy had a sig p226, so I gave that some trigger time and liked it but wasn't completely sold. I got a decent deal on a 226 combat and just like that my shooting began improving exponentially.
Fast forward a year and I purchased a 226 legion.... and I have found my grove. I never would have guessed I would shoot an "old" DA/SA handgun better than the modern ones. But even in DA I am consistent and accurate. It goes to show, at least to me, a shooter needs to find his gun. And it is not a one size fits all. My last IDPA match I shot 8th out of 52, getting 2nd in my division and 1st in my class (marksman). I am certain I would not have been able to do that on my glock or M&P's.
All M&P's have since been sold except for my shield, the glock 19 remains as my "truck gun". It will be SIG legions from here on out.
Rayrevolver
07-25-16, 14:26
I am in mid-clusterf*ck was we speak and its getting expensive. I went from being very Glock centric for the last 4 years to wanting a 9mm host and deciding on a USP 9 Tactical.
To afford the USP I decided to sell 2 Glocks. One sold quickly and the other did not. A coworker wanted to trade so here I am in the month of July as an owner of 2 completely new "systems" of guns with a SIG 226R.
I'll be honest, I know little about SIG and this 226R is a damn revelation (in the basement pew pew, have not shot it yet). Dude installed the SRT (but stock trigger, I have the thin trigger as well) and "E2" slim grips. DA is great with a consistent pull weight all the way through and the SA is crisp. SRT makes the reset nice. I couldn't tell you the last time I shot anything DA/SA but I am looking forward to seeing how well I can work the DA out of the holster.
My plan was to sell the SIG and now I want to keep it and sell another Glock. Hell, its making me question the HK purchase. I said it recently and I'll say it again: Shoot more, buy less.:help: hashtagfirstworldproblems
I've come back to the 19 several times. Ive bought every striker fired polymer that came down the pike the last decade (except the P320) I currently have a G19.4 that I've put a couple cases through. In the beginning I wanted to modify the trigger ( have a 17 and 34 heavily modified ), but decided to try to get good with it stock since it was a carry gun. I now shoot it well.
If you must mess with the trigger, try the Ghost Evo Elite connector first. It's cheap and makes a big difference.
I am purposefully attempting to sample all of the "wonder9 flavors of the week." I tell myself that when I find the one that truly works the best for me, I will concentrate on it and get rid of the rest....but we'll see what happens.
multistage
07-26-16, 23:42
The first one you buy is the most expensive.
It just kicks the door wide open.
The first one you buy is the most expensive.
It just kicks the door wide open.
usually its the guns after the first
ruger<glock<sig< custom 1911
cheap bolt action < custom bolt gun usually from the cheap bolt gun
dpms or bushmaster <colt or bcm< daniel defense or lmt < custom build from brownells
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Digital_Damage
07-27-16, 13:37
I have glocks (17,19,22,26,29, GRP nighthawks, Wilson, SIG 320 and I have settled on the Walther PPQ.
I can just upgrade the sights and call it a day. the glock required hundreds of dollars to get it close to the performance of the PPQ. Still favor the PPQ.
beschatten
07-27-16, 16:19
I've had or tried just about everything under the moon (Glock 17/19/26, Sig P226R, HK VP9, SA RO9, Remington 1911, Wilson Combat). All I've got left are two custom Colt's done up by Alchemy Custom and they run just as reliably as anything else out on the market. Ones for carry, ones for home.
Lessons learned:
-No such thing as a perfect pistol.
-Whatever you have, you'll always look for something better.
-Get good with whatever you pick.
-Be content.
If I could do it all over again, a Colt 9mm with new sights, Harrison HD ignition, a well fitted beavertail, ambi safety, and a reliability job is all I'd want or just get a PPQ or VP9 and call it quits. I'll probably never be a good enough of a shot to run with the top-dogs in competitions and either of those choices can fulfill just about any role I can practically think of.
The first one you buy is the most expensive.
It just kicks the door wide open.
My wife , at the time, took me to Scottsdale Gun Club after she bought me an expensive Surefire flashlight. It reinvigorated my likeness to firearms. We affectionately refer to that flashlight as the $20,000 flashlight. As you said, " kicked the door wide fkn open".
If I could do it all over again, I would do it all over again. It's the journey my brothers. YMMV.
PB
Evel Baldgui
07-27-16, 22:05
Like others have posted, I've also progressed through a wide variety of pistols,but, for me, nothing functions like a Glock 19 with an RMR.
I own or have owned examples of almost every main stream handgun.
Currently own:
4 M&P's in various flavors
4 H&K's in various flavors
Dan Wesson Valor 1911
CZ P09(still one of the most under rated handgun on the market IMO)
few wheel guns(dont get shot ever, but nostalgia requires me to keep them)
Sold:
Gen 4 Glock 19
Springfield XD 40
S&W 642
I want to pick up a Sig 226 Legion, although I doubt I would carry it. I also want to pickup another S&W 44mag wheel gun(629 PC with 2.25" barrel) for no real reason except its sexy.
I had nothing bad to say about the Glock, just didnt get into the rotation with it ever so off it went. It just never felt like the right gun to carry or take to the range when I had other better/different guns for the purposes. Springfield XD was just an inaccurate turd no matter whose hands it was in so it got sold in 09. I shot a buddy's XD-M a year or two ago and it was just as inaccurate. Picked up my HK and CZ off the rack and was drilling little holes again so I am pretty sure it wasnt me. My buddy also shot my HK and CZ much better than his XD-M, so 2 shooters that shoot better with a different gun, me thinks the gun is shit.
You guys didn't start early enough. I began with revolvers, S&W, Colt. The one S&W that I wish I still had is a model 19. Loved that gun. Colt Python stayed with me, never liked the other Colts. Then on to the 1911, Hi Power, M&P, Glock and whatever comes next.
I have never had a pistol I completely liked right out of the box. Seems I make changes to all of them.
Present carrys are Glock and M&P.
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