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EzGoingKev

07-15-16, 14:10

I have a Ruger RPR and would like to put a brake on it but I do not want something harsh on the shooters around me.

Does such an animal exist?

Kenneth

07-15-16, 15:26

If you are wanting a brake on a bolt action I'm assuming it's because you want to see your hits through the scope on target. I have a 6.5 creedmoor that I can watch the impact after the shot pretty easy.

Just put the most effective break you can find on there and be down with it. If your worried about the sound get a brake that accepts a suppressor and go that route.

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/12/12/rifle-suppressor/

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EzGoingKev

07-15-16, 15:48

The rifle jumps around a good amount when shooting it. I want less of that and something that would be easier on the shoulder.

I was shooting last week and there was another shooter there with the same rifle. He had a brake on his and man was his rifle loud as hell in the pits. It blasted everything around it.

I have been around other rifles with brakes and the experience has been the same.

I am not looking for a suppressor, just a brake that won't make everyone around worry about if they can still have children.

Canonshooter

07-15-16, 16:35

It's just the nature of the Brake Beast: the more blast redirected, the more effective it is. If you use something the APA Little Bastard (https://www.americanprecisionarms.com/products-page/muzzlebrakes/gen-ii-little-bastard/) brake, it's easy to take on/off and replace with a thread protector for those times you feel some compassion for those next to you.

mattpittinger

07-18-16, 20:45

The brakes I have are all designed to accept cans but, even so, a brake is brake, they are loud. Any effective brake is going to be.

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EzGoingKev

07-21-16, 18:10

IDK if anyone had experience with any of the linear compensators out there.

pointblank4445

07-21-16, 18:29

IDK if anyone had experience with any of the linear compensators out there.

If you want the benefit of a brake without offending your neighbors, you need a can...period.

ETA: The comp guys do what's best for comps, but there is something to be said in what they do. Most don't dick around.
http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/12/12/rifle-suppressor/

Bimmer

07-22-16, 10:17

Does such an animal exist?

AFAIK, no...

I put a Miculek on my bolt-action .308.

It works really well at damping recoil, but the blast to the sides is horrendous.

I double up with plugs and muffs when I shoot it. Woe to anybody nearby who isn't doing the same.

Falar

07-24-16, 11:58

ColtSeavers

07-25-16, 00:12

IDK if anyone had experience with any of the linear compensators out there.

I have a Simple Threaded Device linear comp on my HD AR. It does a great job at throwing everything downrange (sound and blast) butrelatively nothing (as far as I'm concerned) for recoil and/or muzzle jump.

An alternative to a brake, it you're truly conerned about those around you, would be a heavier muzzle device in general.

Here are some links that could help as well, though, they are clearly not scientifically infallible:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/11/jeremy-s/556-muzzle-device-shootout/
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/jeremy-s/ar-15-muzzle-brake-shootout-2/

PLEASE NOTE that these are specifically for 1/2-28 threading and .223, though a lot of them have 5/8-24 threading in larger caliber/chambering sizes as well.
In particular the Epsilon and J-comp do not exist for larger sizes for some examples.

gaijin

07-25-16, 07:04

Unfortunately there is no "free lunch"; a truly effective compensator is effective because it redirects gasses (usually to sides/up) to mitigate recoil/muzzle hop.

Koshinn

07-25-16, 09:03

Unfortunately there is no "free lunch"; a truly effective compensator is effective because it redirects gasses (usually to sides/up) to mitigate recoil/muzzle hop.

Well you can get both an effective brake and not crazy noise if you increase mass and volume by a lot.

gaijin

07-25-16, 09:20

Well you can get both an effective brake and not crazy noise if you increase mass and volume by a lot.

I'll take your word for it.
Realistically- for the average shooter using m193/m855 and not reloading- this is a non issue.

I have BCM mod "O" comps on my "may need to shoot this indoors" and hunting carbines. They do help with muzzle rise and recoil- some. They are not horrifically loud.

The most effective comp I've used (and do use on "game/range" guns) is Precision Armaments "M4-72 Severe-Duty" compensator.
I can see the hit downrange on target at 100 yds. with this one, but the level of sideblast is SEVERE as well.
Their .30 cal brake (which is the same as the 5.56 unit) is worse yet for blast but is exteremly effective.

majohnson

07-27-16, 11:49

All my rifles inc the 338 that being built have APA brakes on them. Both of my 6.5 have Little Bastards on them, like others have mentioned it great for being able to see your bullet impact. If there are people shooting I will try and leave a space or two between us. If someone sit next to me and there are empty benches, I will mention to them it might be load shooting next me, so they have a chance to move before they set up.

w squared

07-27-16, 13:11

I have one of these on my Ruger Gunsite Scout - it's a 7 pound rifle and I still find it comfortable to put a couple hundred rounds through in a day.

http://cdn-us-ec.yottaa.net/53ff2f503c881650e20004c9/www.brownells.com/v~13.4f/userdocs/products/p_080100578_1.jpg?yocs=g_j_&yoloc=us

http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/muzzle-devices/compensators-amp-muzzle-brakes/ar-308-short-muzzle-brake-30-caliber-prod86704.aspx

In my books, it's about one-half to one-third of a muzzle brake. It does help with recoil, but is not punishing for those adjacent to me.