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tb-av
07-22-16, 11:54
Multiple deaths being reported but not confirmed by Police

WickedWillis
07-22-16, 12:05
Source? I cannot find anything regarding this.

Found: looks like it's over thankfully.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/europe/germany-munich-shooting/index.html

tb-av
07-22-16, 12:06
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/shots-fired-munich-shopping-center-german-police-say-n615031

Dist. Expert 26
07-22-16, 12:26
Sounds like a textbook case of workplace violence.

Koshinn
07-22-16, 12:30
As (almost) always, reddit has a more-or-less live compilation of news sources as they become available:
https://www.reddit.com/live/xatg2056flbi

Arik
07-22-16, 12:36
I don't see anywhere where it says it's over.

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Koshinn
07-22-16, 12:50
I don't see anywhere where it says it's over.

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As of a couple minutes ago:
"Shooter, possibly shooters, may have fled into subway. Transit shut down. Police urging people not to post pics or video showing police actions. - CBC"

There are reports of shooting at the metro station, which makes sense if they fled there.

As of just now:
"We are trying to get the situation under control. We don't know where the perpetrators are", says the spokesman of the Munich Police.

Eurodriver
07-22-16, 12:53
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028037914



1) 'But dem Yurpeans always brag bout their gun control, and now this happens. Hurr, hurr, durr, take that gungrabbers!'

2) 'We don know the background but I bet he was shouting Allahu Ackbar cuz only dem brown people shoot shit up in Yurp!'

ETA: Gotta love that Trump is being blamed for this on DU!

Arik
07-22-16, 12:54
As of a couple minutes ago:
"Shooter, possibly shooters, may have fled into subway. Transit shut down. Police urging people not to post pics or video showing police actions. - CBC"

There are reports of shooting at the metro station, which makes sense if they fled there.

As of just now:
"We are trying to get the situation under control. We don't know where the perpetrators are", says the spokesman of the Munich Police.
And the German SWAT/SF is on scene too.

My friend is watching 10 different European news and texting me

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glocktogo
07-22-16, 12:56
I'm pretty sure it will be reported that the perpetrator(s) were shouting about peaceful religion or some such during the incident.

Koshinn
07-22-16, 12:56
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028037914



ETA: Gotta love that Trump is being blamed for this on DU!

How can you go to that site and not go nuclear

Eurodriver
07-22-16, 13:01
How can you go to that site and not go nuclear

Did you ever go to an IDF in Iraq and start talking to the HUMINT guys?

It helps to know what the enemy is up to ;) Think of it in that manner and you'll never get angry reading DU again.

Koshinn
07-22-16, 13:04
Did you ever go to an IDF in Iraq and start talking to the HUMINT guys?

It helps to know what the enemy is up to ;) Think of it in that manner and you'll never get angry reading DU again.

This is my problem:
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

WickedWillis
07-22-16, 13:05
I don't see anywhere where it says it's over.

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Yes, the CNN link I posted was incorrect.

Koshinn
07-22-16, 13:06
Also on topic: reporting of 3 total shooters, 6 dead from the shopping mall shooting.

Police claim they don't know where the shooters are. Could be misinformation because the Police are also pleading with social media and the news to not post pictures of Police activities because that would give information to the shooters.

Eurodriver
07-22-16, 13:19
This is my problem:
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

That happens more on M4C than it does on DU!

It is interesting that LE is pleading not to send footage out to help these guys. I'm wondering if the guys that did this were umm...I don't know how to phrase it.

I don't want to sound xenophobic. :sad:

WickedWillis
07-22-16, 13:24
That happens more on M4C than it does on DU!

It is interesting that LE is pleading not to send footage out to help these guys. I'm wondering if the guys that did this were umm...I don't know how to phrase it.

I don't want to sound xenophobic. :sad:

Just let it out Euro....lol

Firefly
07-22-16, 13:30
Goddamn Southern Baptist NRA member Trump voters.

Will their terror in Europe ever cease?

nml
07-22-16, 13:33
It's those darn Polish again I'm sure of it.

cbx
07-22-16, 13:36
Goddamn Southern Baptist NRA member Trump voters.

Will their terror in Europe ever cease?
I know right? If them terrorist Baptists would ever quench their bloodthirsty savagery. Thank god the only reason more didn't die was because they were tripping over their bibles.......

Cough cough......yeah right huh.....

GTF425
07-22-16, 15:08
I'm calling skinheads given it's the anniversary of Breivik's terrorist attack.

*ETA: Looks like I'm wrong.

Campbell
07-22-16, 15:21
I'm calling skinheads given it's the anniversary of Breivik's terrorist attack.

+1......

Slater
07-22-16, 15:37
Hmmm, this sounds like a job for Tod Holton :D:

http://www.ep.tc/tod-holton/

Firefly
07-22-16, 15:46
I'm calling skinheads given it's the anniversary of Breivik's terrorist attack.

....like I said

Whiskey_Bravo
07-22-16, 16:04
I'm calling skinheads given it's the anniversary of Breivik's terrorist attack.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/22/shots-fired-at-munich-shopping-centre/

Hmm, weird.


Reports of the gunman's behaviour were confused and contradictory.

A Muslim woman told CNN that she heard the gunman yell: "Allahu Akbar," yet video footage showed a gunman ranting against foreigners and Turks, suggesting a Neo Nazi attack.

Children were said to be targeted.

JC5188
07-22-16, 16:09
Saw this on Fox News...

What are the subs they are toting?

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160722/4aa1fd803f1682b821dd40aa7abc2cf0.jpg



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Firefly
07-22-16, 16:10
MP7s it looks like.

The_War_Wagon
07-22-16, 16:13
CRAZY mohammedans?!?! Why, I never HEARD of such a thing!!! :rolleyes:

JC5188
07-22-16, 16:26
CRAZY mohammedans?!?! Why, I never HEARD of such a thing!!! :rolleyes:

Not saying you're wrong, but the pics they showed on the news look like a white dude with a handgun. Pretty grainy footage however.


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WickedWillis
07-22-16, 16:30
MP7s it looks like.

They are.

GTF425
07-22-16, 16:36
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=526_1469210591&comments=1

Footage of a shooter yelling back and forth with a citizen.

GTF425
07-22-16, 16:37
....like I said

That you did.

JC5188
07-22-16, 16:39
Pic of shooterhttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160722/1fce9c11601b78680d622ca2e4a89b76.jpg


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JC5188
07-22-16, 16:40
They are.


MP7s it looks like.

Damn they're tiny


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Firefly
07-22-16, 16:42
That you did.

Hmm....man Europes a mess. I really feel bad for them.

Also GTF, your Avatar is giving me the bug eyes.

Hey, GTF. sorry about the bug eyes comment. I'll be in my office.

Eurodriver
07-22-16, 16:49
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=526_1469210591&comments=1

Footage of a shooter yelling back and forth with a citizen.

transcript:


Man: "You ****ing Asshole you..."
>Shooter: "Because of you I [unintelligible]..."
Balcony Man: "You cunt you. you're a cunt"
>Shooter: "...and now I have to buy a gun to shoot you"
Balcony Man: "a gun **** off your head isn't on right"
>Shooter and Balcony man shouting at each other
Balcony Man apparently to people filming: "He's got a gun here the guy has one"
Unseen voice: "Shit/****ing Turks!"
Balcony Man: "Shit/****ing Kanacken" (foreigners basically)
Balcony man to someone else : "EY! HE'S GOT A GUN! He has loaded his gun! Get the cops here!"
>Shooter: "I am German."
Balcony Man: "You're a cunt is what you are"
>Shooter: "Stop filming!"
Balcony Man: "A cunt is what you are, what the **** are you doing?"
>Shooter: "Yeah what, I was born here!"
Balcony Man: "Yeah and what the **** you think you're doing???"
>Shooter: "I grew up here in the Hartz 4 (unemployment benefits in Germany) area.
Balcony Man and Shooter talk at same time, can't make it out.
>Shooter says something about "Behandlung" which is "treatment" in both medical treatment or just how you treat people,not sure which one he means.
Balcony Man says something like "Yeah treatment is something for you"
>Shooter: "I haven't done anything here for [unintelligible]"
>Shooter: "Just shut your ****ing face man"
Balcony Man: "You cunt you"
Balcony Man: "HEY! HE'S ON THE UPPER FLOOR HERE [unintelligible]"
Filming man goes into cover, shooter starts firing.
Balcony man calls him a cunt again.
Balcony man shouts something at him about "shooting here" and Shooter replies multiple times "Yeah, that's where you're right! Yeah you're right with that!" Yeah you're right!"
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I can't tell if the guy is trolling the shooter by calling him a foreigner, or if he actually is a foreigner.

WickedWillis
07-22-16, 16:52
transcript:



I can't tell if the guy is trolling the shooter by calling him a foreigner, or if he actually is a foreigner.

I like how cunt makes it through the sensors....

Firefly
07-22-16, 16:52
transcript:



I can't tell if the guy is trolling the shooter by calling him a foreigner, or if he actually is a foreigner.

He's peobably from Eastern Europe. The shooter, I mean.

Whiskey_Bravo
07-22-16, 16:54
I just don't understand how he was able to get a gun in gun free Germany? Is it one of those ceramic ghost guns?

jpmuscle
07-22-16, 16:55
Lots of Aloha snack bar claims going on though

Whiskey_Bravo
07-22-16, 16:59
Not saying you're wrong, but the pics they showed on the news look like a white dude with a handgun. Pretty grainy footage however.


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There have been several white dudes that have converted and then self radicalized and moved on to be durka durka jihadist. See John Walker Lindh.

Firefly
07-22-16, 17:10
There have been several white dudes that have converted and then self radicalized and moved on to be durka durka jihadist. See John Walker Lindh.

JWL....man that takes me back in time. That's when it all just happened.

He'll be out of jail before Bradley Manning. I think only, what, nine more years?

And he got that one CIA guy killed

JC5188
07-22-16, 17:20
There have been several white dudes that have converted and then self radicalized and moved on to be durka durka jihadist. See John Walker Lindh.

No question. Just an observation.


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GTF425
07-22-16, 17:41
Also GTF, your Avatar is giving me the bug eyes.

It's from my days of high adventure. Good times.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but unfortunately sarcasm doesn't come across well on the internet.

Firefly
07-22-16, 17:55
It's from my days of high adventure. Good times.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but unfortunately sarcasm doesn't come across well on the internet.

Your cool, man.

It was a Ghostbusters joke. Venkman tells Janine not to give him the bug eyes and then immediately apologizes.

I think your avatar looks hella sick and you should keep it forever.

Koshinn
07-22-16, 18:10
This is a recap...
A mass shooting occurred at a McDonald's branch and then moved to the Olympia Mall nearby
9 people are dead
Currently there are 10 wounded being cared for in multiple hospitals
Public transport in Munich, with the exception of the airport, is shut down and the city is on "Lock Down"
There are rumoured to be between 1 and 4 shooters, with one reported dead
Police, doctors and nurses from the Bundeswehrkrankenhaus and specialist teams are surrounding the city
It appears the found dead person has had a red pokemon backpack similar to the red the person in the black t-shirt had which can be seen in the McDonalds video. Bomb squad is currently inspecting the backpack.


Press conference in 50 min.

tb-av
07-22-16, 19:32
I like how cunt makes it through the sensors....


LOL, don't they all....

30 cal slut
07-22-16, 20:02
police reporting shooter was an 18 y.o. male of Iranian descent. German citizen.

Cops confirm children are among dead and wounded.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36873180

The_War_Wagon
07-22-16, 20:15
police reporting shooter was an 18 y.o. male of Iranian descent.

AMAZING... that as a 12 year old, on Nov.4, 1979, I learned to NEVER trust those b******s EVER again... and yet, 37 years later, the world STILL hasn't figured it out. And the Obamanation-in-chieftain has fast-tracked them for nuclear missile technology (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/07/secret_document_allows_iran_to_accelerate_nuke_program_years_earlier_than_disclosed.html). :bad:

Honu
07-22-16, 20:36
lets not rush to conclusions
screaming aloha snackbar and shooting people most likely caused by Trump rhetoric !!! if the US would only ban guns none of this would be happening

cant believe they still want to say we have no solid ties to terrorism when stuff like this happens truly mental ill people

yes acted alone no concrete ties to terrorism no idea why this happened etc.. lets not blame muslims they are peaceful blah blah blah

30 cal slut
07-22-16, 20:37
shooter was reportedly making disparaging remarks about turkish people, leading to confusion, that's why the neo nazi theory was brought up.

simple explanation.

majority of turks are sunni muslim.

majority of persians are shia muslim.

sunnis and shias hate each other.

there are a lot of turks in germany.

Moose-Knuckle
07-23-16, 03:40
So the Nice truck attack, the German commuter train axe attack, the French resort where an eight year old girl was stabbed to death and her sisters and mothers were stabbed cause they wore swimsuits, and now this. So that is like four muslim terror attacks in what a week . . .

Well nothing instills confidence in one's leadership like speeches like this in response to their citizens being murdered at the hands of benevolent islamic immigrants.


President Francois Hollande; "We'd better get used to major terrorist attacks every few weeks."

:suicide:

The silver lining in all this is that these attacks bolster support for Trump, just like Orlando and Dallas has.

Eurodriver
07-23-16, 03:45
I don't understand.

Isn't this workplace violence?

SteyrAUG
07-23-16, 04:39
AMAZING... that as a 12 year old, on Nov.4, 1979, I learned to NEVER trust those b******s EVER again... and yet, 37 years later, the world STILL hasn't figured it out. And the Obamanation-in-chieftain has fast-tracked them for nuclear missile technology (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/07/secret_document_allows_iran_to_accelerate_nuke_program_years_earlier_than_disclosed.html). :bad:

Yep, seems simple but in 1979 I learned the Iranian theocracy was NOT our friend.

On 2001 I learned that most Sunni muslims, but especially Wahhabist were NOT our friend.

But none of that seems to matter in this case. Somebody has thrown the Neo Nazi flag on the field. Swear this would be "Sum of All Fears" laughable if it wasn't actually happening. Good thing Germany did the right thing and brought in all those Syrian (Sunni) refugee's.

I swear it's like inviting crack addicts into your home to help them with their recovery and then being amazed when all of your shit is broken or stolen one day.

Moose-Knuckle
07-23-16, 04:54
I swear it's like inviting crack addicts into your home to help them with their recovery and then being amazed when all of your shit is broken or stolen one day.


Mother of ten-year-old boy raped in Austrian swimming pool by Iraqi who said it was 'a sexual emergency' says she regrets telling her children 'migrants need our help'


Upon hearing her son's attacker's claim he had 'too much sexual energy', Dunja criticised his defence as 'just monstrous' and insisted he should be sent to prison and then be deported. She said she 'regretted' teaching her children to be welcoming to migrants.

The boy, known only as Goran, had to be hospitalised with serious injuries and his mother said her son has been crying himself to sleep every night since the attack.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3436988/Mother-ten-year-old-boy-raped-Austrian-swimming-pool-Iraqi-said-sexual-emergency-says-regrets-telling-children-migrants-need-help.html#ixzz4FDwM6b9s

mark5pt56
07-23-16, 06:51
The Turks have been an issue every since they have been in the country. Cheap post WWII labor to rebuild and they regret that choice.

30 cal slut
07-23-16, 09:06
shocker.

anyways the article has some interesting points - european ministers are telling their people to suck it up and live with terrorism.

also, 2% of germany's population arrived JUST LAST YEAR.

and hilldog wants to import at least a million more if she's elected.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/692415/Munich-shootings-leave-Angela-Merkel-facing-backlash-as-social-media-erupts-in-fury




Angela Merkel BACKLASH: Fury erupts at German leader amid Munich shooting rampage

German Chancellor Angela Merkel faced a furious backlash today as the city of Munich mourned its dead in the wake of the horrific shootings.

By SIOBHAN MCFADYEN
PUBLISHED: 00:00, Sat, Jul 23, 2016 | UPDATED: 14:38, Sat, Jul 23, 2016

As the horrifying scenes from Germany's third largest city sparked outrage across the world many in German pinned the blame directly on the country's leading politician and her open door policy on migrants.

Mrs Merkel is cutting short a holiday in the Alps to return to the country today but she has still not addressed the nation about this latest terrifying attack.

Her chief of staff Peter Altmaier told AFP 15 hours ago that she Chancellor was on her way to Berlin.

And he said she was being "constantly briefed" on developments in the southern city, but she has still not offered words of comfort to an on edge nation.

Bu that hasn't stopped the public from wondering why she has yet to address the meeting: Kurt von Schleicher ‏aka @kurtwvs said: "Where is Angela Merkel? #WoIstDieDa?"

...

30 cal slut
07-23-16, 09:12
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSWz4eMWsAAC6Jc.png

JasonB1
07-23-16, 09:18
This is what backlash looks like.

40582

Not seeing backlash in Germany, much less the furious variety.

ForTehNguyen
07-24-16, 00:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1fZUlqYPAk

Arik
07-24-16, 09:41
The news is now saying that the Munich shooter had planned this a year in advance. He visited other shool shooting sites and practiced by playing 1st person shooting games.

Apparently video games make you a good shot

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