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Slater
09-03-08, 08:26
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=9311748d86ea0aefb159cc5deb295c96&tab=core&_cview=1

Hell, maybe the rest of the government will follow suit :D
Littlelebowski
09-03-08, 08:32
Isn't the M&P striker fired?
Army Chief
09-03-08, 08:37
Interesting how the solicitation was written, in effect, to read that any pistol of any design from any vendor was eligible for consideration, as long as the items submitted were/are Smith & Wesson M&P .45s.

Chief
Army Chief
09-03-08, 08:39
Isn't the M&P striker fired?

Guess they'll have to clarify the meaning of "double action" in that case. I'm still trying to figure out what a "tritum" sight is, but it reminds me a lot of tritium. LOL

Chief
ToddG
09-03-08, 09:09
The agency performed testing and relied on other agencies' recent testing and procurement results to select the pistol. Now that the gun is selected, they put out an "OR EQUAL" solicitation. Other companies will write them justifications for why the SIG P220 or G21 or XD45 are "as good or better" but in the end BEP will have an easy time with the procurement unless one of the other gun companies really wants to step in and fight for a couple hundred guns.
markm
09-03-08, 09:17
Engraving and Printing???

Just give them those RUGER LCPs chambered in the mighty .380 acp! ;)

(I'm just kidding!... I'm sure they are hardcore)
ToddG
09-03-08, 09:25
Engraving and Printing???

Something about all of the cash they print, I guess they're sensitive about it.
Slater
09-03-08, 09:29
To kind of piggyback on that, seems like more agencies want .45:


https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=85885bf4a5fe460a46891bf17242cc46&tab=core&_cview=0
ToddG
09-03-08, 09:59
To kind of piggyback on that, seems like more agencies want .45:

That particular group has been using .45's for a very long time.
markm
09-03-08, 10:03
Something about all of the cash they print, I guess they're sensitive about it.

They should skip the .45 and go with the .50! :p
ST911
09-03-08, 10:51
Isn't the M&P striker fired?


Guess they'll have to clarify the meaning of "double action" in that case.

A striker-fired design can be double action.

With the solicitation specifying "double action", the XD and M&P would seemingly be ineligible, though, as both are mechanically SA.
Army Chief
09-03-08, 14:19
...Now that the gun is selected, they put out an "OR EQUAL" solicitation...

I was largely just highlighting the irony of the obfuscatory manner in which such things are done, but of course, I am persuaded that you are entirely correct.

Chief
Stickman
09-03-08, 16:28
Interesting how the solicitation was written, in effect, to read that any pistol of any design from any vendor was eligible for consideration, as long as the items submitted were/are Smith & Wesson M&P .45s.

Chief


A long time ago I figured out that many of the testing writeups were simply ways to get the weapon that a particular person wanted. Sometimes its for the best, often its done for cost, and sometimes its for a worse reason. The larger the agency, the worse it often is.


I've heard horrible things about some of the "Homeland Security" testing, and thats from people who were involved.
HK45
09-06-08, 09:51
Care to share the details?