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I have been seriously considering a Ruger Scout rifle as a good all purpose bolt gun in .308 for my uses that's not a scary black rifle. I'm looking for an optic that allows a fast site picture/FOV , both eyes open shooting vs say precision shooting at long distances, positioned in the typical scout position forward on the rail. I'm thinking a 1-4 makes sense. Quality optics always important, but don't want to spend more than the gun itself on the glass. Value for quality 1-4.
What would you all recommend? Does a 1-4 make sense for short to medium distance shots allowing a quick site picture?
There are only so many options in long eye relief glass. I went with a Leupold 1.5-4 on mine and really like it. They also make a 1.5-5 illuminated scout scope.
There are only so many options in long eye relief glass. I went with a Leupold 1.5-4 on mine and really like it. They also make a 1.5-5 illuminated scout scope.
Seems a bit large, but that seems to be the optic that pops up and well priced too. Thanx.
There are only so many options in long eye relief glass. I went with a Leupold 1.5-4 on mine and really like it. They also make a 1.5-5 illuminated scout scope.
Yeah, its almost worth looking at handgun scopes because of how few long eye relief variables are out there.
I'm pretty used to red dots, was issued my first M68 over 14 years ago. I would probably just go with that. I feel comfortable with a 2moa dot out to 300m.
Averageman
08-04-16, 15:16
There are only so many options in long eye relief glass. I went with a Leupold 1.5-4 on mine and really like it. They also make a 1.5-5 illuminated scout scope.
This was my choice also.
Good Deal.
This was my choice also.
Good Deal.
Ordered that combo today. Should make an excellent overlap to an AR in 5.56 with red dot I figure. Good camp, hunt, all purpose bolt gun.
I have the Leupold 1.5-5X33 on my Ruger Gunsite Scout. In a set of Leupold QRW low rings, it sits about as low over the rail as I know how to make it fit.
Pros:
Bigger and brighter than any other scout scope I have tried.
Excellent illuminated reticle (rare in scout scopes). This is a game-changer for me as I hunt feral hogs at night.
Very durable, and good build quality
Relatively good value for the money.
5 power makes it easy to get hits out to 400 yards
Cons:
Big, long, heavy when compared to other scout scopes
Eye relief is not long enough to get the tube completely forward of the action
Large ocular lens size means that you can't get it as low over the bore as some other offerings.
If you want a pure scout scope, this is a bit heavy, clunky, and high magnification. If you want a scope that adds to the traditional level of scout functionality and you're willing to put up with the extra weight and size, it's a good choice.
When I eventually get around to buying a Steyr Scout rifle, I'll put a Leupold 2.5X28 on it, because the rifle was intended from to wear that particular scope in those particular rings from Day 1. Even though it's a bit limited optically, the relative positions of the comb of the stock, the bore, and the scope are simply ergonomically perfect.
I have the Leupold 1.5-5X33 on my Ruger Gunsite Scout. In a set of Leupold QRW low rings, it sits about as low over the rail as I know how to make it fit.
Pros:
Bigger and brighter than any other scout scope I have tried.
Excellent illuminated reticle (rare in scout scopes). This is a game-changer for me as I hunt feral hogs at night.
Very durable, and good build quality
Relatively good value for the money.
5 power makes it easy to get hits out to 400 yards
Cons:
Big, long, heavy when compared to other scout scopes
Eye relief is not long enough to get the tube completely forward of the action
Large ocular lens size means that you can't get it as low over the bore as some other offerings.
If you want a pure scout scope, this is a bit heavy, clunky, and high magnification. If you want a scope that adds to the traditional level of scout functionality and you're willing to put up with the extra weight and size, it's a good choice.
When I eventually get around to buying a Steyr Scout rifle, I'll put a Leupold 2.5X28 on it, because the rifle was intended from to wear that particular scope in those particular rings from Day 1. Even though it's a bit limited optically, the relative positions of the comb of the stock, the bore, and the scope are simply ergonomically perfect.
Thanx for the feedback. Size and weight does seem over what it should be for a scout scope, but I didn't find what appeared good alternatives. Considered just putting a Patrol red dot on it and being done. Having some magnification seems worth having as overlap to an AR with red dot.
dtconnelly
08-05-16, 08:17
Agreed...especially with the eyebox having the limitations that it does. I will mention two things though. First is that putting a conventional scope on a ruger scout means that you have to remove the rear peep sight for the ruger rings. Second is that with the (available) short LOP on the scout, that forward scope location makes a shockingly large difference in how quickly you can snap the rifle up and get a very good hit on a 25 or 50 yard target with both eyes open.
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Agreed...especially with the eyebox having the limitations that it does. I will mention two things though. First is that putting a conventional scope on a ruger scout means that you have to remove the rear peep sight for the ruger rings. Second is that with the (available) short LOP on the scout, that forward scope location makes a shockingly large difference in how quickly you can snap the rifle up and get a very good hit on a 25 or 50 yard target with both eyes open.
I assume that's partially the idea and benefit for it's location. The Col. knew a thing or two about shootin' stuff ;)
The non-illuminated 1.5-4 Leupold scout scope weighs less (about 5 ounces) and has a more consistent eye relief, fwiw.
Averageman
08-05-16, 10:10
I apologize, I was wrong about that scope and it bugged me.
I ended up getting the Burris 2-7 Scout Scope. At the time I believe it was the only variable Scout Scope available.
It's riding on a "Tanker" Garand that I had made for me. Thinking about it made me go take a look as it's a seldom used gun I own. Looks like it's time for an upgrade in my Glass.
Pathfinder Ops
09-24-16, 15:40
I put a Nikon Force XR 2.5-8X28 EER, on my Ruger Gunsite Scout. Mounted with the GG&G Accucam QD mount.
I am VERY pleased with this. This Far.
I'm under 2MOA at 100yds all day long. I can do better and have when supported (bipod) but that's pretty much my all the time, standard.
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Edit- sorry for the sideways view. I'm better behind the trigger than the key board. Also the Accucam QD mount was not on the rifle when I took these.
And I put a Aimpoint 9000 in Larue Q.D rings on mine, can swap them out for the Burris most quick.
I went with the Burris 2-7X on my Scout, very happy with it.
1859sharps
12-29-16, 22:29
When I eventually get around to buying a Steyr Scout rifle, I'll put a Leupold 2.5X28 on it, because the rifle was intended from to wear that particular scope in those particular rings from Day 1. Even though it's a bit limited optically, the relative positions of the comb of the stock, the bore, and the scope are simply ergonomically perfect.
Technically scouts are not defined by the type of sights. you can put on a traditional scope, just go with irons, use a red dot etc. However to be a "scout sight", it should fit as close to what Cooper was going for as possible. easy to use, low magnification so you can find your target quickly etc.
At the time Cooper was alive he did seem to favour Leupold 2.5 x 28 scout scope. He reasons are easily googled, but a red dot would fit his reasoning too.
when reading his writings on scout rifles, I think it is pretty clear that when it comes to sights (other than good ghost ring sights) he was never happy with the available scope options available up to the time of his death. lots of room to improve here.
I have the Leupold 2.5 x 28 on my steyr, but it has no focus option and the direction my eyes are going that is a problem. So I am giving thought to other options offered by Leupold or maybe a red dot.
Little Creek
01-05-17, 07:46
I have 4 Leupold 2.5 x 28 scout scopes. One on Savage Scout. One on Ruger GSR. Two on Marlin 1894 LeverScouts. I also have two other Leupold low power variable scopes on M4 clones. A Mark AR Mod 1 1.5 x 4 and a VX-R Patrol 1.25 x 4. Both have SPR or is it SPC illuminated reticles. When the magnification is turned all the way down, I can sight as fast with them as I can with the scout scopes. Also the firedot is a wonderful thing. Almost as fast as a pure RDS for me at least. The 4X upper end is also handy. I am 65 and my eyesight is a real challenge. I have a 2x Leupold pistol scope that I am thinking of mounting on the rail of a 300 AAC Blackout M4 style carbine to see how that combo works. My RDS get real fuzzy at dusk.
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