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Cincinnatus15
08-08-16, 17:49
Hi all - I know people have discussed this in the past but I'm curious to see if anyone runs these sights on their EDC? If so, how do you like them and do they give up anything in terms of accuracy, for speed? I've had big dots and while quick and somewhat accurate they're not for me. I run Defoor's now and they are great for accuracy but I find that I'd like something a little quicker in low light situations. I feel like the Hackathorn sights are probably a decent compromise between the two. Thanks.

Kain
08-08-16, 18:44
I've got a set on my EDC 19. I like them for what they are and haven't had an issue shooting them or keeping rounds centered on targets. As far as precision I can't say that are any more or less precise than the standard Glock night sites seeing that my 17 and 19, the 17 has Glock night sites, trijicons I think, and both group about the same for me. As far as speed... I think the Hacks are maybe a bit quicker as far as something catching your eye, but at the distances where lighting fast shots are going to take place I am likely going to be threat focused and be pointing the damn thing anyway so there is that. At distance both set ups are capable of being more accurate than I am and I can pump rounds into a pie plate at speed at 25 fine with both. For low light I do prefer the Hacks, but that is more a personal preference than anything.

Off topic, truthfully there are a lot of sights out there that can get the job done. You are really going to be the one who is going to have to make the call as far as what you feel works best for you, your style, preference, and eye sight. I like a black rear these days for simplicity, cost, and because I feel it is for ME just a hair quicker. Others will have different experiences. I knew well when I started carrying the 19 I'd end up with a box of holsters, and a few extra sets of sights, and a few half boxes of defensive ammo before I figured out how I wanted to run it. It is a journey, enjoy it.

Cincinnatus15
08-08-16, 18:51
I've got a set on my EDC 19. I like them for what they are and haven't had an issue shooting them or keeping rounds centered on targets. As far as precision I can't say that are any more or less precise than the standard Glock night sites seeing that my 17 and 19, the 17 has Glock night sites, trijicons I think, and both group about the same for me. As far as speed... I think the Hacks are maybe a bit quicker as far as something catching your eye, but at the distances where lighting fast shots are going to take place I am likely going to be threat focused and be pointing the damn thing anyway so there is that. At distance both set ups are capable of being more accurate than I am and I can pump rounds into a pie plate at speed at 25 fine with both. For low light I do prefer the Hacks, but that is more a personal preference than anything.

Off topic, truthfully there are a lot of sights out there that can get the job done. You are really going to be the one who is going to have to make the call as far as what you feel works best for you, your style, preference, and eye sight. I like a black rear these days for simplicity, cost, and because I feel it is for ME just a hair quicker. Others will have different experiences. I knew well when I started carrying the 19 I'd end up with a box of holsters, and a few extra sets of sights, and a few half boxes of defensive ammo before I figured out how I wanted to run it. It is a journey, enjoy it.

That's pretty much where I'm at. I've got a couple extra sets of sights, 3-4 holsters I never use. I've figured out over time what I prefer as far as carry methods and will enjoy giving these sights a try. They may be what I'm looking for. Thanks a lot.

Kain
08-08-16, 19:06
That's pretty much where I'm at. I've got a couple extra sets of sights, 3-4 holsters I never use. I've figured out over time what I prefer as far as carry methods and will enjoy giving these sights a try. They may be what I'm looking for. Thanks a lot.

Only 3 or 4 holsters? Amateur ;) lol.
Actually I need another holster for my 19, though the one I am looking for is a tact holster to hang on the war belt with an X300 on it.

Well at least the Hacks are that pricey. I think I paid around $70 for my set. So it could be worse. I personally am thinking of grabbing another 19 or 17, or another of each and a 23 for the hell of it, just so I have a testing platform. I mean, I did the same with my ARs...

n517rv
08-08-16, 19:12
I prefer the Hacks with the Yellow/Green outline and run them on my M&P Shield. On my G19 I run the orange Hacks as I couldn't find them in the yellow/green color. I'm red/green colorblind and prefer not to use anything orange/red, if I can avoid it.

I highly recommend the Hacks. I had Redback Ones on my G19 prior to the Hacks. They are good sights, but the front sight on the RB1s was too hard for me to pick up at night. The tritium is quite small on their front sight.

So I say, Hack away!

Cincinnatus15
08-08-16, 19:23
Lol.. Good luck in your search for a holster for the war belt. A friend of mine has a nice one I can see what kind it is and let you know, may be something you'd want. I'd love to get another 19 and throw sights on it to test them but at this point in my life I just cant afford it (working my way through college). I've got my rifle set up the way I want it (Colt 6920 w/ Aimpoint PRO, an old unpadded VTAC sling, a Surefire Fury mounted to the stock hand guards via an IWC Light Mount and Slot). It's nothing special but it works and it's accurate, all I care about at this point. I could keep the Defoor's on but I like having some reference whether it be paint or tritium to draw my eye to the front sight in low light conditions. Obviously a white light is necessary in all low light situations but if I don't have time to pull my white light I'd rather know where my front sight is. I index the weapon well and would probably be on target out to 15 yards or so but still, its a comfort factor.

Cincinnatus15
08-08-16, 19:25
I prefer the Hacks with the Yellow/Green outline and run them on my M&P Shield. On my G19 I run the orange Hacks as I couldn't find them in the yellow/green color. I'm red/green colorblind and prefer not to use anything orange/red, if I can avoid it.

I highly recommend the Hacks. I had Redback Ones on my G19 prior to the Hacks. They are good sights, but the front sight on the RB1s was too hard for me to pick up at night. The tritium is quite small on their front sight.

So I say, Hack away!

Awesome man. I'm also red/green "color deficient" but I never have problems distinguishing the two except for on that stupid test lol. I think I will, Hack away! Thanks for your response.

drtywk
08-08-16, 19:51
I run them on all of my EDC Glocks, 2 19's and a 43, as well as a 17. They are my favorite sights and I love the uncluttered sight picture, as well as the tritium inserts.

unclebud
08-08-16, 20:29
I am looking for a new set of sights for my 19. I just checked and these are only $67.50 on Amazon. May be worth a try.

SeriousStudent
08-08-16, 20:41
I have Ameriglo Hackathorns on probably ten different Glocks. I'd have to go count.

When your eyes get older, you'll like that fat orange dot. Even before then, the serrated rear sight blade makes for a nice lack of glare in bright sunlight.

Magsz
08-08-16, 20:52
I have a set on my 42 that I do not like at all.

When the sights are level, ie top of the front blade is even with the top of the rear, the orange dot is partially obscured by the rear sight. It makes shooting the dot harder than it should be.

Endur
08-08-16, 21:44
I run Hackathorns on both my pistols. I love them. They are great sights.

ST911
08-08-16, 22:33
I have Ameriglo Hackathorns on probably ten different Glocks. I'd have to go count.

When your eyes get older, you'll like that fat orange dot. Even before then, the serrated rear sight blade makes for a nice lack of glare in bright sunlight.

Need to grab a set for my G43. Thanks for the reminder.

drtywk
08-08-16, 22:36
I have a set on my 42 that I do not like at all.

When the sights are level, ie top of the front blade is even with the top of the rear, the orange dot is partially obscured by the rear sight. It makes shooting the dot harder than it should be.

The narrower slide of the G42 is not really amenable to this type of sight set, as you need the wider notch of the rear sight to get the full functionality of them. They are great on my 43!

SeriousStudent
08-08-16, 23:00
I have a set on my 42 that I do not like at all.

When the sights are level, ie top of the front blade is even with the top of the rear, the orange dot is partially obscured by the rear sight. It makes shooting the dot harder than it should be.

My 42 carries my only set of Trijicon night sights with the orange dot. They do work well. Grant gave me a good deal on the price, he had them on sale when I needed a pair.

SeriousStudent
08-08-16, 23:00
Need to grab a set for my G43. Thanks for the reminder.

Thanks for reminding me to pick up a Glock 43. I have a GSSF coupon burning a hole in my wallet.

Phillygunguy
08-09-16, 09:01
I have a set of Hacks on one of edc g 19 I love them, except the front sight (orange) seems to loose it's brightness over time.

nova3930
08-09-16, 09:19
Set on my P320C and a set sitting on the shelf waiting for time to install on my P320FS.

PRK vision correction gave me 20/10 vision at the expense of seeing doubles of small glowing things close up. Makes 3 dot style sights blur together. The bright orange front and black rear help overcome that.

1911-A1
08-09-16, 12:00
I have hacks on all four Glocks. They're fast and precise when needed.

BatteryOperated
08-09-16, 12:52
I will not be switching anytime soon.

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Cincinnatus15
08-09-16, 12:53
I'm glad to hear most people have had success running these sights. Thanks for the replies. To the gentlemen who claimed the orange lost its brightness over time, how long is "over time". Weeks, months, years? Probably not an issue for quite some time and if they do lose brightness quickly, does Ameriglo back their product? I'm excited to throw these on my 19 and see how I'll like them.

Cincinnatus15
08-09-16, 12:54
I will not be switching anytime soon.

Non serrated rear?

Phillygunguy
08-09-16, 13:03
I'm glad to hear most people have had success running these sights. Thanks for the replies. To the gentlemen who claimed the orange lost its brightness over time, how long is "over time". Weeks, months, years? Probably not an issue for quite some time and if they do lose brightness quickly, does Ameriglo back their product? I'm excited to throw these on my 19 and see how I'll like them.
I think it was over a year of course I have about 8000 rounds through it since I got it in 2014. But the tritium is what lasts no issues there

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BatteryOperated
08-09-16, 13:11
Non serrated rear?

Yes, the rear is a U shape design (Ameriglo# GL-405PRA) and the front Pro dot fits right in. The front and rear use to be sold as a set, but no longer. The U shape is still available, but you have to order front and rear separately.

Edit: Looking through my records I did order both separately. I guess I have a Hackathorn clone, and not the actual Hackathorn endorsed sight.

Swag
08-09-16, 13:41
Only 3 or 4 holsters? Amateur ;) lol.
Actually I need another holster for my 19, though the one I am looking for is a tact holster to hang on the war belt with an X300 on it.

G-Code SOC RIG. Pretty versatile and so far has held up well to fairly rough use. Just remember to use loctite on the RTI wheel adapter fasteners when adjusting it for your needs.

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Cincinnatus15
08-09-16, 14:42
Yes, the rear is a U shape design (Ameriglo# GL-405P) and the front Pro dot fits right in. The front and rear use to be sold as a set, but no longer. The U shape is still available, but you have to order front and rear separately.

The Hackathorns are now sold with a serrated rear correct? That's how I ordered them anyway.

BatteryOperated
08-09-16, 14:52
Yes Sir, you are correct.

AFshirt
08-09-16, 17:54
I have a set of them on my bench that just got taken off. I replaced them with the yellow/green version. Eye just couldn't pick up the Orange during subconscious sight picture both eyes open drills any more.

Kain
08-09-16, 18:23
G-Code SOC RIG. Pretty versatile and so far has held up well to fairly rough use. Just remember to use loctite on the RTI wheel adapter fasteners when adjusting it for your needs.

40902

Interesting. Will look into it. Have been bouncing around grabbing another Safariland ALS, or whatever the newer option is, T7S or what not. Am always open to options though, not like I don't have a bucket of gear as it is.

Cincinnatus15
08-10-16, 12:20
Hackathorn sights came in the mail today and the front sight went on no problem and looks great. The rear sight was giving me trouble and rather than beat the hell out of it with a hammer and plastic dowel I'm just going to have a local shop push it in tomorrow. If I need it between now and then I'll have no problems just using that extremely bright orange front sight post. Did I mention that the front sight post is extremely orange? Lol. After I take it shooting I'll report back.

Big A
08-10-16, 13:16
The Hackathorns are now sold with a serrated rear correct? That's how I ordered them anyway.


Yes Sir, you are correct.

Only the Hackathorns for the Glocks and regular S&W M&P's come standard with a serrated rear sight . The ones for the S&W Shield and for Sigs & XD's do not.

I have them on my Shield and like them but I am contemplating switching to an iDot rear. I don't always get consistent placement of the dot upon presentation of the gun. I can't determine if this is the sights fault or the size of the gun causing me to have an inconsistent grip. I probably just need more practice.

Phillygunguy
08-10-16, 13:41
Only the Hackathorns for the Glocks and regular S&W M&P's come standard with a serrated rear sight . The ones for the S&W Shield and for Sigs & XD's do not.

I have them on my Shield and like them but I am contemplating switching to an iDot rear. I don't always get consistent placement of the dot upon presentation of the gun. I can't determine if this is the sights fault or the size of the gun causing me to have an inconsistent grip. I probably just need more practice.
I dots are OK I have a pair on another g19 But it takes getting used too if you're used to hacks

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Cincinnatus15
08-16-16, 10:44
Took the Hacks to the range yesterday and was shooting at a silhouette target with a 5x5" black square in the upper torso. I really only wanted to check the straightness of the sights. I was able to keep ~95% of the shots (130 rounds total) within the 5x5" black square at 7-10 yards shooting fairly rapidly. I think for defensive sights they serve their purpose well. I didn't try taking my time or stretch it out as I was rushed and just wanted to test the straightness of the sights and the function of a new carry ammo as it was time to change it out, went with 124 grain Federal HST std. pressure. All in all I think they're good to go. I'll be interested to see how they perform at distance.

MegademiC
08-16-16, 11:58
I currently have I dots, non serrated rear, but tried a friends trijicns with serrated rear and hated it. It took a lot more effort to line up the front and rear sights. What's the benefit to serrated sights?

Cincinnatus15
08-16-16, 12:09
I currently have I dots, non serrated rear, but tried a friends trijicns with serrated rear and hated it. It took a lot more effort to line up the front and rear sights. What's the benefit to serrated sights?

I believe the serrations are to cut glare and allow your eyes to be drawn to the front sight easier. Could be wrong though.

opmike
08-16-16, 21:46
Yes, sight serrations help cut down on glare since the light doesn't have one flat, smooth surface to reflect off of.

MegademiC
08-17-16, 08:47
Ok, makes sense, thanks. I found the rear too difficult to pick up, guess it's a preference thing.