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G19A3
08-21-16, 09:36
Requirements:

1. Snatch-resistant !! (More than just a thumb snap....Level 2?)

2. Concealable

3. Comfortable for a 16hr shift

That's it.


Safariland Model 7377 7TS™ ALS?

I guess that wasn't it.....lol.

4. No IWB or AIWB (Client wants the duty gun HIGHLY visible at times (but not a duty rig), concealed and low-profile at other times (all legal and legit).....If so, I demand the holster be snatch-resistant.)

Gunnar da Wolf
08-21-16, 11:32
I wore an earlier version of that holster with a SIG P229 and then a Springfield Armory XD in .45 for years. Very comfortable, very secure, lightening fast. Concealable? Kinda sorta.

Cincinnatus15
08-21-16, 13:35
There are all kinds. It's gonna be on you to try and decide what works best for you. I've tried Bladetech, White Hat, Crossbreed, NSR, and a few others. They all do a decent job but I've settled on High Country Holsters who I found through Reid Henrichs YouTube channel. He recommended them so I gave them a shot and they work well for me. It's just a Kydex holster with a high sweat guard on the back, low cut on the front and has 2 adjustable cant pull the dot loops. I've carried appendix with it, 4 o'clock, and finally now carry about 3 o'clock with some cant. Conceals well, the pull the dot loops make it extremely difficult to yank off, and I wear it everyday, all day. It's going to be personal preference. Hope this helps.

mcnabb100
08-21-16, 15:27
I have a safariland 578 GLS. I like it, but I don't use it for concealed carry. I believe it's similar in size and shape to the holster you are looking at. I honestly haven't tried to conceal it, I think it would be tough with warm weather. The locking system is a bit of a compromise, it's more theft resistant than just holster retention, but the GLS unlocks when you get a good high grip on the gun. It would probably be pretty easy to snatch from behind, but tough from the front or side.

I typically just use it for the range, and conceal with a AIWB holster.

mcnabb100
08-21-16, 19:26
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I threw on a button up and took these. Concealed better than i would have thought, but I thought it was pretty viable from the side.

bigboi98
08-21-16, 19:56
EDIT: never mind since original post was changed.

But if anyone is looking for a nice iwb....

N82 Pro.

Amazing retention system. You have to apply a slight twist to unholster the weapon. Almost impossible for someone to unholster it from behind you. Scratch resistant. By far the most comfortable holster I've used. I have one for my G27 and one for my G42.


https://www.n82tactical.com/store/

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L-2
08-21-16, 20:03
Safariland has been my "go to" company for security holsters of various levels, whether for duty or concealed carry. I've used various models over the years and currently have ALS and GLS type locking holsters.

MountainRaven
08-21-16, 23:01
Galco Fletch (or FX, if you want suede lining).

It is a concealment-oriented holster with a thumb snap. OWB, so very comfy. I believe my present roommate carried his pistol in one in uniform when he was working for an armed/armored courier service and he was very happy with it.

titsonritz
08-22-16, 12:35
Safariland has been my "go to" company for security holsters of various levels, whether for duty or concealed carry.


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MountainRaven
08-22-16, 13:17
Now that you've up-dated the original post... the 7377 holster is not a level 2 retention holster, it is a level 1 retention holster. It is fast, it will keep your gun from falling out of the holster, but it is not particularly concealable and won't slow down a gun snatch any more than a thumb snap.

If you want a level 2 retention 7TS "concealment" holster (really, the 7TS "concealment" holsters are duty holsters attached to pants belt loops and paddles), you want the 7367. It still won't be particularly concealable, but it will offer the retention level you want in a brand and style similar to what you suggested. Another option would be the Safariland 0701, although I doubt it would be much better from a concealment stand point than the 7377 or 7367.

If you want something that is actually concealable and offers level 2 retention, your best bet is probably going to be to contact a saddlery shop that offers both good level 2+ duty holsters and concealment holsters and see if they will make you something that will work for you.

G19A3
08-23-16, 09:25
Now that you've up-dated the original post... the 7377 holster is not a level 2 retention holster, it is a level 1 retention holster. It is fast, it will keep your gun from falling out of the holster, but it is not particularly concealable and won't slow down a gun snatch any more than a thumb snap.

If you want a level 2 retention 7TS "concealment" holster (really, the 7TS "concealment" holsters are duty holsters attached to pants belt loops and paddles), you want the 7367. It still won't be particularly concealable, but it will offer the retention level you want in a brand and style similar to what you suggested. Another option would be the Safariland 0701, although I doubt it would be much better from a concealment stand point than the 7377 or 7367.

If you want something that is actually concealable and offers level 2 retention, your best bet is probably going to be to contact a saddlery shop that offers both good level 2+ duty holsters and concealment holsters and see if they will make you something that will work for you.

Thanks everyone for your help and your replies.....please keep them coming, if possible.

I realize holsters are very subjective, but I want to try my best to avoid a 'second' drawful of holsters just for this job.

I recall the model Safariland 0701. It didn't seem to takeoff as a 'successful' design like its bigger brother the SSIII 070, which seems to be still somewhat popular?

Based on my requirements and that the 0701 still seems to be available through a few vendors, I may go this route. (The 0701 appears 'slightly' more compact than the ALS's and also seems to ride a bit higher which could help concealment as the situation requires.)

Anyone have more personal input with the 0701 ?

cbx
08-23-16, 23:16
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7ts safariland. My favorite owb retention holster I've tried so far.

some models are level 2 retension. Some are level 3. Super fast draw. Various heights and options. Mine in the photo is a 7378 I think. Came with both mounts. It's high enough that it can conceal, as well as it can I guess. It's no AIWB type concealment. My 19 completely disappears in vedder holster Aiwb with my home brew setup. I wear a stretchy belt, and can adjust ride height for jeans, shorts, even gym shorts and white shirts buy using the waist bands to conceal the grip. For the people I'm around I need full concealment all the time.

The only time I use the owb safariland is range and when I'm in the mountains. I really like it for that role. It's not as bulky as a lot of the other holsters our there. But if some kind of concealment, and still be level 2 or better, your list is kinda short. The 6300 safari holsters are much bulkier.

Hope that helps. I've avoided the big drawer full of holsters thing so far. I tired a serpa, and it wasn't for me. The safarand ALS feels very natural to me. No extra thought needed. My thumb falls there every time. I just have had a hard time getting comfortable with owb holsters that don't have retention.

DaBigBR
08-25-16, 18:22
Retention levels have become a term of art. Safariland is referring to the open top ALS (63XX/73XX) as level two with the ALS lever being one level and the friction of the holster being another. They originally referred to the duty ALS holsters with the good as "level 2+", but now they're calling them level 3.

I think the ALS open tops are fine retention holsters, particularly if you are wearing them concealed (which I understand they are not the best for). Any amount of weapon retention training will tell you to under-emphasize retention devices and focus on physical retention, too.

MountainRaven
08-25-16, 21:22
Standard open-top ALS holsters are (per Safariland) Level 1 retention holsters. The addition of the ALS guard bumps that to Level 2.

The ALS/SLS holsters are Level 3. The addition of the SLS sentry bumps that to Level 4.

ALS/SLS holsters are still not very concealable.

multistage
08-29-16, 22:38
Milt Sparks is awfully tough to beat.

PaLEOjd
08-30-16, 08:11
If you are going to be carrying for a job with the 7TS holster, you may want to purchase the ALS guard and the hood guard also.
The ALS guard works great during retention drills and the hood guard just helps keep the release lever from being accidentally depressed.
I would also suggest purchasing a good mid-ride belt loop for that holster to replace the paddle. Paddle holsters can be easily broken during a gun grab. Your pistol will be more secure with a belt loop.


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