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RobertTheTexan

10-25-16, 01:35

So I was posting on Euro's thread on his loadout, and thought it would be best to start my own instead of hijacking his. This thread will be a 'living' thread for a while, because I have more gear coming in for my radio, that will require more pictures and comments. Hopefully this is helpful. Before reading this thread, I would definitely read Euro's thread - there is some very useful information from him and Outlaw Systems. Click HERE (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?188006-Gear-Loadout-is-Finished) for Euro's thread.

So I'm not going to regurgitate Euro's thread. Suffice to say, I talked to them enough that I decided to pull the trigger. The radio arrived last week, so I'm going to post some pics of the radio, and also some of the accessories I needed to pick up so I could run it on my chest rig effectively.

One thing I need to point out, is that I am not attaching the cable, or running the extension cable through PALS webbing on a PC. My PC is a Beez low viz, therefore it does not have PALS webbing. That said, I do have an extended X-Harness from Tactical Tailor that will suffice just fine.

What I have on-hand currently: PRC-148 radio (pics to follow), an antenna relocation cable (from CommoCage on eBay). 2M J-Pole roll-up antenna from Nelson_Antennas on eBay. (links below)

Accessories en route: Tactical Tailor PRC-148/152 radio pouch; Thales 1 meter blade antenna; TCI (Tactical Command Industries) Mast Relocation Kit, TCI Liberator II behind the head headset with noise cancellation, and PTT (getting a cord replaced)

I'm going to post some of my other post, just so you can see the accessories all on this thread. Specifically the antenna relocation cable I got off eBay. It's a very well-made cable (Thanks DocSherm) and I will use it on one of my chest rigs.

Couple of things I learned since jumping in with both feet.
1. The more I get into it, the more I realize I don't know.
2. I plan to run the following antennas:
- 1 meter blade
- 20" flex antenna
- 2 meter J-Pole -

So this is the 2M J-Pole rollup antenna. This antenna is great when you need a little extra rx/tx range. You connect it to your radio and throw it across some tree branches, make your comms checks/messages, roll the antenna back up and move out.
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For the J-Pole 2M antenna click HERE (http://www.ebay.com/itm/DELUXE-MODEL-ROLL-UP-2M-70CM-ROLL-UP-J-POLE-SLIM-JIM-ANTENNA-WITH-10FT-COAX-/190898779511). Keep in mind if you are going to a military radio (or clone) you will need an adapter, I believe an SMA male to TNC Male, but I need to confirm this.
ETA:I just confirmed from the guy who made the 2M J-Pole antenna for me. Shane is his name and he's as solid as they come. Super helpful with ALL my questions and makes a very good product. He told me I needed an SMA Male to TNC Male adapter. I did confirm this would work. Here's a link on Shamazon to the adapter you'll need. With the adapter plus the 2M cable, it is still well worth the investment. For the J-POLE antenna adapter for use with PRC-148 click HERE (https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Straight-Adapter-Cable-Connector/dp/B00S4U8H6M/ref=pd_ybh_a_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=PWF5AZ2HCJFH603KW78C). You can also find the same adapter on eBay for less, but I was concerned about shipping time. You can find the adapter on eBay HERE (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adapter-SMA-MALE-TO-TNC-MALE-NICKEL-eBay-SA160-NGT-/222280048698?hash=item33c0ec603a:g:jUUAAOSwX~dWmJl0).

So let's get started. I will provide links to everything I can. I cannot provide the link to my headset, but I'll try to find one like it. Besides headsets are like AR's, it's a personal preference matter.

Here's the radio: As Euro and Outlander said, don't freak out because it's coming from an AS website. Watch the videos. Click HERE (https://shop.jkarmy.com/tri-prc148-uv-mbitr-radio-military-pin-ipx-7-prc-148-bk.html) for the radio.

This is all the items that come in the box from jkarmy.com It does have a genuine Thales battery which is a huge plus. The two items on the lower right/mid-right are the charger. The Thales twists onto that little plate just like it mounts to the radio. Light on the AC charger flashes amber when it's charging, steady green when charged.
http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/WIP%20Build%20Photos/5816193E-DA93-4124-BA97-D4566F8BD636_zpsietfz4ah.jpg

PRC-148 control head, you can see how well its constructed.

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/WIP%20Build%20Photos/146351AE-9E30-4A6E-B2F6-29E2DA30B06C_zpsunzmf1cv.jpg

Top of radio. Standard military 6 pin comms connector for your TCI or Peltor head sets. TNC (threaded) antenna connector, on-off knob, frequency adjustment knob (middle)

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The radio, Thales battery mounted. [/li]

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Right side of radio:

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Left side of radio. Volume +/- , PTT, & monitoring button

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Bottom of radio, interface to the Thales battery.

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Radio on, and rx WX transmission. (the solid bar indicates you are receiving, and I believe it may reflect the strength of that signal) I'm still figuring things out. lol
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Here are the pics of the relocation cable from CommoCage on eBay

It looks to be pretty well made, the ends are sturdy and have been shrink wrapped and a sealant around the bottom of the boot as well. The cable is recently manufactured (June 2016, It measures 46" long. Came packaged in a small bubble-wrap envelope, after all it is just a cable.

If you want to buy this cable on eBay - click HERE (http://www.ebay.com/itm/322100691363?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/WIP%20Build%20Photos/2DD8E4E3-E149-482F-875D-56F33C5C4F5D_zps8sn2kvv4.jpg
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To give you an idea of how much cable you get, I'll post a couple of pics. When I get my radio pouch in, which right now I have a TT small radio pouch, grossly insufficient for this radio, I'll make a thread and do like Euro did to show my chest rig and how I run the radio/antenna when I get it all in. But since you asked, I'll post a couple of pics now.

The radio, with the CommoCage extension and the stock TRI antenna
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I just ran it through the PALS webbing to give an idea of how much it takes up. For go-to, it would be a little more clean, and I probably wouldn't position the antenna there, but it should give an idea of what you're working with. Also as noted above, my PC is a low viz PC, so it is not covered in PALS, but I can do all I need to do with the extended X harness that TT makes.
http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/WIP%20Build%20Photos/1E21BCF4-8D8A-4390-AE52-CAC9E33B4D8E_zpsimevs3od.jpg

This is not the correct radio pouch - this is a Tactical Tailor SMALL radio pouch. This is just to show how much antenna cable is running up the X -harness shoulder straps.
http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/WIP%20Build%20Photos/A44B9DC4-79EE-48B6-A366-768ECB975A91_zpssbkwnslh.jpg

I will replace this cable with the TCI Mast relocation cable (with QD TNC adapter) and move this cable to another chest rig that has a different purpose. If you are interested in the TCI Mast Relocation Kit, Click this link HERE (https://www.safariland.com/products/comms-and-hearing-protection/antenna-relocation---mast/mast-modular-antenna-system-tactical-antenna-relocation-kit-MAST.html).

Just to clarify, the relocation cable from eBay does the job perfectly as far as I can tell. The TCI MAST Relocation Kit will allow me to relocate my antenna behind me on my Tactical Tailor X-harness, but since I've decided I want to be able and run different antenna lengths, which can affect the freqs that my radio will rx/tx on, I decided I wanted a QD mount. Hence the TCI MAST re-locator. It will come with a 90 degree QD TNC connector, that will allow me to disconnect from that antenna and connect to another antenna, either on the same rig on different rig.

Again, all this can be done with one cable, but it will be a PITA and less risk for damaging threads in a dark, cold, wet night if I have QD TNC connectors.

Updates to follow:
Tactical Tailor PRC-148/152 antenna pouch arrives 10/26/2016 You can buy this from Tactical Tailor by clicking HERE. If you are military/veteran don't forget to use the WETSU discount code. Drops the price of the pouch to $36. If you look around, you can find it for less, but TT has amazing customer service, it's worth the extra bucks.
1 meter blade antenna (Thales) will be here 10/27/2016.
Liberator II headset, at TCI getting a cord replaced, will arrive the 11/01/20166 and along with it a TCI Mast antenna relocation kit.
Adapter for my 2M/70 CM J-Pole antenna.

I will Edit To Add on the thread once I get some more parts in. Let me know if you have questions, I'll try to answer. Or comments for that matter. If I've said something whack, straight it out!

Yeah it's a big post and you probably fell asleep somewhere after the 3rd word, but if you made it this far, hopefully it's given you some food for thought.

Thanks
Robert

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Well, it's "finished" As finished as any kit item is until I decide to change something, but honestly, it's pretty much exactly what I envisioned when I set up to build a chest rig. I decided to just edit the OP because then everything will be together and it will be a more congruent read. The post is meant to highlight the radio, but I'll also talk to some setup on my chest rig in case anyone has questions/comments. Before I get started, I have to give some major gratitude to the M4Cer and my very good friend docsherm, who helped me put my chest rig together. It's a far cry from the old ACU LBV I had. He designed my load plan and guided me through getting what I needed to get and how it should all work together. If you have any intention to build a chest rig and aren't sure what you should get - or where you should start, then you need to read docsherm's "Chest Rigs 101" post. There is no better place for you to start. You can find docsherm's post by clicking: Chest Rigs 101 by docsherm (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?155209-Chest-Rig-101-Introduction-to-the-Art-of-the-Chest-Rig)

I will go in the order of my "Upgrades to Follow" from the Original Post and then show some pics of the final setup. As before I'll post links where I can. I don't know if Tapatalk shows the links, if not you'll need to "Open in Web Browser" to see them.

Tactical Tailor PRC-148/152 antenna pouch: There are many pouches for radios, and granted I am definitely partial to Tactical Tailor, but this really is a great radio pouch. Fits the radio perfectly, Works similar to some admin pouches in that you can flip it out to change freqs or verify freqs on the radio, close it up and snap the ITW fastener

Radio pouch secured

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Fastener released, pouch tilts open allowing access to control head of the PRC-148.

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Here you can see the AN/PRC-148/152 Radio Pouch positioned left/front side of my chest rig. Between a universal pouch and my GP pouch. PTT cable also seen.

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Commo%20Kit/57092D46-6F07-43FD-B399-AB13B428939D_zpskaspzb5j.jpg

You can find the PRC-152 radio pouch at Tactical Tailor by clicking here (http://www.tacticaltailor.com/prc152radiopouch.aspx).
If you're military or LE, you get a discount at Tactical Tailor. Just enter "WETSU" when you're checking out.

So at this point I'm about out of images and we have a ways to go, so I will have to post this and do a reply. Sorry I won't be able to make it as seamless as I wanted, but hopefully you can still get some benefit out of the posts. - I have the majority of the other comments and pics written, it is just a matter to copy/past them into a new reply. So look below for...."The Rest of the Story."

Thanks again for reading - Robert

BrigandTwoFour

11-22-16, 10:11

I'm curious about how this setup is working.

I'm getting very interested in amateur radio, and I know this radio requires a license to operate legally. I've been considering what my first radio should be, and this is in the top three (along with a Yaesu 817ND and the new CommRadio CTX-10, which are both more base station units than the TRI clone).

RobertTheTexan

11-22-16, 15:06

Eurodriver

11-22-16, 17:02

Wow! I'm not sure how this has only one reply. Great post. When I made that thread (which kind of got turned to shit as all my photobucket pics were lost) I never expected to get so much interest on the radio. After all, it was a thread with a rifle, PC, optic, radio, etc etc.

Outlander is the one who put me on to that radio. People like to say "Oh, Airsoft? Pass!" until I drop my radio in the ocean and then challenge them to do the same with their "non-airsoft" Hytera/Motorola/BAOFENG. When they refuse I say "Ok, no sweat. Where do I plug the Peltors in on yours?" ;)

You will love the blade antenna. I have NO SHIT reached almost eight miles in the most densely populated area in the 3rd most populous state during daylight hours using GMRS freqs with that antenna and that radio.

jpmuscle

11-22-16, 19:24

Best thread Eva!! Not sure how I missed this.

coastwatcher42

11-23-16, 13:17

Great post! How rugged does the radio appear to be? Do you think it will be able to handle the elements and field use well?

RobertTheTexan

11-23-16, 13:31

Great post! How rugged does the radio appear to be? Do you think it will be able to handle the elements and field use well?

Absolutely. The feel is certainly solid as a rock. EuroDriver has personally sunk his in the ocean. I totally agree with him. Don't be fooled by the airsoft, this is as close to a military issue PRC-148 as we are gonna get without taking out a W2nd mortgage. I snapped some pics this morning of how it's set up in my chest rig and will be posting those pics this afternoon.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i1qfjYhvW9M

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Eurodriver

11-23-16, 13:45

:lol: asking if this radio is rugged...

Outlander has a video of some guy using his to smash cinderblocks in half.

RobertTheTexan

11-23-16, 13:58

:lol: asking if this radio is rugged...

Outlander has a video of some guy using his to smash cinderblocks in half.

I regret not having that chest rig with me as I'm headed out to my little range to run some still, but testing out a new chest rig and build for my truck. Otherwise I would do some videos of submerging it etc. next time!!

Can you get the link to post that video Outlander has?

And thank you for the compliment above. Coming from you means a lot.

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85cucvtom

11-23-16, 22:38

I have very limited knowledge when it comes to radios but it appears to be a nice rig.

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RobertTheTexan

11-26-16, 02:35

Continuing from my previous post, Welcome to..."The Rest of the Story."

Thanks again for reading - Robert

I'll start with the Thales Blade Antenna, 1 meter.

Antenna 1m Blade, 30-90 MHz I found mine on eBay, and it's really hit or miss if you find one. If you do, just be sure that it's in good shape and not damaged. Blade antennas will get weakened at the point they are folded up, if they have seen too much use. No one likes a limp blade antenna, and viagra won't fix that.

The antenna unfolded stretched across my TT shemagh. Yes, technically it's longer than 1 meter, but I'm not sure they count the base, but the actual antenna portion since that has a direct impact on the frequencies the antenna is capable to rx/tx on. (I think, feel free to correct me on this.)
http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/WIP%20Build%20Photos/08DED019-ACE2-4353-AB38-989521D551D3_zpsdi2hmlnf.jpg

Part number of Thales blade antenna

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Another shot
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There are some Thales antennas on eBay, the link will take you to the search, because I don't know the buyers well enough to post a direct link, and you get a piece of crap I'd not feel good about that. Also when you are looking, also look for Harris blade antennas. They are the same quality as Thales at a minimum..
Click here (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=harris+AND+thales+1+meter+blade+antenna&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=harris+thales+1+meter+blade+antenna&_sacat=0)to search for Thales and Harris 1 meter blade antennas

Adapter J-Pole The J-Pole adapter is needed so I can use the J-Pole antenna. The J-Pole antenna mentioned in the OP gives you the capability to increase your TX/RX range, by throwing the antenna in the branches of a tree or some other pole - elevating in, giving in creased LoS (Line of Sight). It is a 2 meter antenna.

TNC Male Plug to SMA Male Plug M/M Straight Adapter RF Cable Connector
NOTE: When looking for an adapter you may run across some that are titled "RP - Reverse Polarity". Stay away from those.
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Liberator II headset Another eBay item. You'll understand why I went to eBay once you price these or Peltor's brand new. I know Peltors are popular especially in the SOF community, but the Liberator II is also an excellent headset. They are manufactured by Tactical Command Industries, and they sell into both the military and LEO space. Not surprisingly, SafariLand bought out TCI, but when you need to speak to a TCI rep you can get their direct line. I had to send my headset off to TCI for a cable repair and had them run some diagnostics since I didn't have a 35V handy. The Liberator II has noise cancellation or what they call "Digital Sound Processing" which should suppress the bang-bang while not suppressing other sounds you may need to keep your happy heart ticking. Here's a blurb from Tactical Life on a press release on the Liberator II's which were released in 2014 (Digital Threat Compression Technology to safely reduce hazardous noise while enhancing low-level sounds with Digital Situational Awareness Enhancement, which simultaneously provides the user with 360 degrees of ambient sound reproduction and unbelievable situational awareness.) They also indicated that the headset is waterproof and you get about 600 hours of life on 2 AA batteries. It still worked when I got it and the batteries looked to be rather used. Sounds fun right?
I don't have a tactical helmet, but they should work with Ops-Core, Team Wendy, and the issue ACH or MICH helmets. etc.

LIberator II headset, behind the head suspension

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Here's a view of the power button (that activates the noise cxl) and volume buttons. The mesh goes over your head, and the wired band securing the cables goes behind your head - hence "behind the head" suspension. The over the head is like a standard headset suspension like your Bose or whatever that is padded and goes over your head.

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TCI MAST (Modular Antenna System, Tactical) Antenna Relocation Kit, Version 2 So this piece of my setup was not necessary, in that I already had an antenna relocation cable, that allowed me to move the antenna to the back of my X-harness on my chest rig. However, since I have more than one chest rig, I decided to get the MAST for my primary rig, and use the relocation cable (Link in the OP) for my truck or SPR kit.
This is a solid piece of gear and I am glad I went this route. It not only provides a pouch for the base of your antenna, but provides some security loops to prevent damage to the antenna base. I can build a cable easier than a blade antenna.

The MAST kit, with a velcro strap to secure the blade antenna when it's folded up.

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A closer up view of the MAST. It's very well constructed and pretty easy to reach over your shoulder to release the velcro for the blade to extend. Using my left hand to fold and right hand to secure the velcro, I was able to secure the antenna. That's why it's positioned where it is, and also to get max LoS when extended, and less obstruction from my body.

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Securing the blade (the easy way)

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Here you can see the 'security loop' as it secures around the base of the antenna. One to keep the antenna from sliding up or down, but also to prevent any damage to the base of the antenna.

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The MAST Relocation Kit also came with a 90 degree QD connector. This gives you the ability to disconnect one antenna and connect another. For example, I can quickly disconnect the 1 meter blade antenna and connect my 2m cable when I need the extended rx/tx capability to send a message. Disconnect the 2m, reconnect my 1m blade antenna, and move out. This 90 degree QD fitting is part of the "Version 2" of the MAST kit.

A good shot of the 90 degree QD fitting. I placed the antenna cable out front for the sake of the pic, as you will see I normally keep it behind my PTT

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A clean picture of the antenna cable as it connects to the MAST 90 degree QD adapter

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How it's normally ran on my chest rig

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This concludes the comms updates to my chest rig. I will do a reply to this post and continue on with my chest rig setup for those of you interested...

Thank you for reading, I hope this is proving helpful to you.

RobertTheTexan

11-26-16, 04:56

This concludes the comms updates to my chest rig. I will do a reply to this post and continue on with my chest rig setup for those of you interested...

Wrapping up the chest rig. Rather than put links to the chest rig setup inside the comments, I'll put them all at the end of this post.

Plate Carrier:
Beez Combat Systems NIJ II Carrier in khaki
Soft Armor: Second Chance Monarch
Rifle Plates: SKD Tactical Ceramic, shooters cut, single curve
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Chest Rig - Tactical Tailor 2 Piece MAV with TT Extended X Harness, and TT Center Adapter

Basic Load = 9 x 30rd 5.56 mags (maximum load out = 11 x 30rd 5.56 mags)

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Starting far right side (as worn)

SO Tech Viper Flat A1 IFAK pouch I've tried a few different IFAK pouches or blow out pouches. This is hand down my favorite when you want a full IFAK size pouch. Pull that strap you see, and the IFAK kit comes out. It's secure, believe me, but also pretty easy to deploy.
http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Commo%20Kit/51A3C45A-B126-40CF-B30F-A0E19E3B841E_zpsuhrowiy7.jpg

Inside I have the necessities for trauma:

Ace bandage,
2" gauze,
plastic tape,
moleskin,
trauma shears (from Madison Supply or Elite Supply, another favorite),
blood clotting agents, both gauze and powder),
Nasopharyngeal Airway,
nitrile gloves,
acetaphetamin (no ibuprofen or naloxone which have blood thinning characteristics),
Halo Seals (Note: I don't normally have chest seals in my IFAKS, as I keep mole skin in sheets large enough to suffice, in this case they were given to me, so I'm using them.) Spare TQ, that would get moved to outside of chest rig once one is used.
Vaseline gauze
Antibiotic ointment

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Chest%20Rig/EF4D5DA2-0BB3-458C-82D7-1D2AA5A97915_zpsumt7lhfp.jpg

Continuing to the right...
http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Commo%20Kit/FCBB84C1-AE46-4C61-AD01-B2E6942A9CE9_zpsppsmnuo8.jpg
- TT 2 mag shingle - I have KYWY inserts in my double and single mag shingles, rather than using the bungee cord, which I take off and repurpose to secure my TQ, light sticks, scissors etc on various rigs. I will also tell you the double mag shingle, makes a great pistol holster for my G19, when not used for ammo. (which would be a rare circumstance)
- TT Multipurpose Pouch - Probably the best pouch on my chest rig. You won't believe how much you can store in this pouch. I have maps, included coated in acetate, notepad, markers, pencil, lighter, camo tape, camo sticks, small multi-tool, water purification tabs, light stick and that's not even filling it up. I do not build a chest rig, without the multipurpose pouch, with the exception of a low viz chest rig I have..
- Gerber Strong Arm fixed blade - It's a good fixed blade, thick, excellent purchase on the grip in wet weather or gloved hand, it's a very solid grip. Steel takes a good edge and keeps it.

Front left side (Left to right from ammo pouch with CAT TQ attached) to the PRC-148 radio pouch

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Commo%20Kit/B5302618-9A5F-4269-BA35-812E427311E3_zps6gmwlowh.jpg

- TT Universal Mag Pouch - These pouches are probably my favorite ammo pouch. Yes I know the world loves the HGSI and other brand tacos, but I can do a lot more with this Universal pouch than I can with a taco. Taco's have their place, just not on this particular chest rig. It can hold 1-3 x 5.56 mags, 2 x 7.62x51 (AR-10/SR-25) mags, on my SPR rig, I use it to hold a TT medical insert. It can be used to holster my G19, and basically as a small GP pouch if needed.
- TT Center Adapter; TT Single mag shingle; TT Compass pouch attached (Compass in front) - The center adapter connects via clips to each side of the MAV and is velcro backed. It gives me a somewhat quick release for the 2 piece since I don't have to use the ITW buckles, I pull the velcro apart and can lay prone without laying on my chest rig, the biggest benefit to the 2 piece MAV and why I got the 2 piece for this application. It has PALS webbing so I can connect the single mag shingle to it and the compass pouch to the mag shingle.
Inside my compass pouch, I have a Silva Ranger compass. I also have Cammenga with my SPR rigs, this is the standard military lensatic with tritium, we all used, Silva makes an excellent compass
Shown is my Garmin Foretrex, worn on my wrist when kitted up, stored in my GP pouch
- next to single mag shingle, another TT universal pouch with 2 x 5.56 mags and CAT TQ attached via paracord bands. (testing this setup with my TQ and seeing if I can deploy it as easily as if secured with parabands.)
- Next to universal pouch, is my PRC-148 radio pouch, already discussed.

Some detail on the TT Center Adapter...
Pic of how the Center adapter secures the 2 pc. MAV together

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Chest%20Rig/IMG_0661_zpsgq5kags8.jpg

The center adapter secures to each side of the MAV

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Chest%20Rig/3a31e015-dc28-4ae6-815e-42777575fb36_zps7dr7fahp.jpg

Moving past center of MAV, to front right:

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Commo%20Kit/57092D46-6F07-43FD-B399-AB13B428939D_zpskaspzb5j.jpg

- TT universal mag pouch with 2 x 5.56 mags (Told you these were one of my favorites)
- TT PRC-148 radio pouch

Left side (as I wear it)
- TT General Purpose (GP) Medium pouch, chemlights and Madison Supply trauma shears in PALS webbing
- TT Universal mag pouch

Inside my GP:

Oakley tactical gloves
Restraints
Rite in Rain Leaders Book (the 5x7)
chemlights
IR strobe
550 cord
protein bars
whatever else is mission essential

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Commo%20Kit/351724D5-1909-4182-B759-9C83B05148FD_zps8mibtzi1.jpg

Outside chest rig:
Zip tie restraints
Ranger beads

Gun Belt (Basic Load = 5 x G17 mags)
Glock 19 Gen IV (Cerakoted Colt Coyote Brown and black)
TRL-1 weapon light
Glock 17 mags
Active Handgun Trainer's belt w/ Cobra Buckles (AustriAlpin)
SafariLand 6378USN ALS Low Sig G19 holster w/ TRL-1 - Easily the best holster I have ever used.
TR_Holsters dual mag holders (with tensioner screws) (eBay)

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Commo%20Kit/9BC13815-E1F0-478C-809E-2A6BE89FDBBC_zpsjfcizkc2.jpg

unholstered

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Commo%20Kit/46BFD773-5BEF-4CF3-8EBE-8C719C85FCB4_zpsmhzgcf7b.jpg

Battle Rifle - custom build, painted by me (that's probably obvious lol)
10.3" SBR (From the bottom up)

- Vickers sling Krypton Highlander w/ burnsed socket for conversion from 2 pt sling to single pt sling
- LMT SOPMOD butt stock
- VLTOR A5 buffer system, with H2 buffer
- Fortis RE QD end plate
- Hogue hand grip w/ cargo management (fancy name for in-grip storage)
- CMC curved 3.5lb trigger (made in Texas naturally)
- DSG Arms LPK-Enhanced (-) enhanced bolt release (Not compatible with ambil bold release kits)
- Troy Ambi- Bolt Catch/Release
- Battle Arms Development ambi selector switch 45/60
- Aero Precision Lower
- Aero Precision Upper
- Redi-Mag
- Raptor CH
- LMT FA BCG (The only BCG I run)
- Precision Reflex Fixed Sights (Originally had LMT fixed sights, replaced those with these. Liked these so much, swapped out my Daniel Defense fixed sights with Precision Reflex. The visual connection between the rear aperture and front sight is slick and as natural as I've seen)
- EOTech EXPS 3-2 (Yes I still have my EOTech, and I will keep on using EOTech, it's what I've been training with and what I'm good with.)
- LaRue 10" free floating rail (Yes I'm aware they haven't changed anything in 10 years, but if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.)
- GG&G shorty (Replaced with BCM shorty that just arrived in the mail)
- BA 10.3 barrel, Hanson profile
- BA pinned gas block
- BA melonited gas tube
- TRL-1 light (Looking to swap this out - maybe with TRL-1HL, or PowerTac, still undecided
- BattleComp comp

I don't have an AAC Brake on this weapon as I don't think I'll suppress it. I built this weapon as a CQ rifle and extended the barrel 6" defeats the purpose in my mind.

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Commo%20Kit/FBDCE8D6-B01B-41F3-83A3-A26D1007E8DD_zps5gfyydck.jpg

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Commo%20Kit/e3ed22f9-9436-40e7-8bc4-dc760d46067f_zpsvs0vjfaz.jpg

Also after replacing the LMT sights with the Precision Reflex I failed to mount my TRL-1 on the top of my rail where I like it. I decided to wait as I was waiting on some rail ladders from LaRue Tactical. All that arrived today, so I swapped out most of the LaRue index clips for the ladders and moved my light.

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv200/robertestx/Commo%20Kit/96DBE693-81B0-4FE4-809C-B80EB5CDD14C_zpstgkpqpou.jpg

I will come back and Edit To Add all the links for the chest rig. It's 0452 and I'm poppin' smoke.

I hope this was a helpful post. Let me know if you have questions or comments.

Last thing. I said docsherm helped me with my chest rig, but he's helped me in just about every aspect. Helped me organize my IFAK and I generally don't build an AR without consulting with him a few times at least. So I really wouldn't have much to show without his help. Never want to claim to do something alone when I haven't.

RobertTheTexan

11-26-16, 09:30

Guys,

Sorry I could not post all of this in one post - but it's out here if you want to see the updates. It was rather late when I finished - around 0445, so...yeah it might have some strange things.

- Robert

I have very limited knowledge when it comes to radios but it appears to be a nice rig.

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Thank you 85 CUCV, I have put a lot of work into it, but I also had some great help.

I'm curious about how this setup is working.

I'm getting very interested in amateur radio, and I know this radio requires a license to operate legally. I've been considering what my first radio should be, and this is in the top three (along with a Yaesu 817ND and the new CommRadio CTX-10, which are both more base station units than the TRI clone).
Depending on how serious you want to get, there may be a need for you to setup a base station and have a radio in your kit like the TRI PRC-142 clone. My step-dad who is licensed and eyeballs deep in HAM, has a "comms room", plus a nice Yaesu in his truck, plus some handhelds.

Wow! I'm not sure how this has only one reply. Great post. When I made that thread (which kind of got turned to shit as all my photobucket pics were lost) I never expected to get so much interest on the radio. After all, it was a thread with a rifle, PC, optic, radio, etc etc.
You will love the blade antenna. I have NO SHIT reached almost eight miles in the most densely populated area in the 3rd most populous state during daylight hours using GMRS freqs with that antenna and that radio.
Thank you brother!

Best thread Eva!! Not sure how I missed this.
Thank you JP!

Great post! How rugged does the radio appear to be? Do you think it will be able to handle the elements and field use well?
Absolutely

Guys,

Sorry I could not post all of this in one post - but it's out here if you want to see the updates. It was rather late when I finished - around 0445, so...yeah it might have some strange things.

Robert

BrigandTwoFour

11-26-16, 10:43

RobertTheTexan

11-26-16, 12:57

Not radio related, but I'm also a fan of those TT universal mag pouches. I recently removed mine in an effort to eliminate as much Velcro as possible from my kit, though. Time will tell if it stays that way

There's definitely 2 camps out there. Open top and velcro. I have a Ten Speed chest rig and my SPR chest rig that uses open top pouches. (they probably have a more tacticool name, but that's how I think of them.) For me, at the very beginning of building this rig, when docsherm was asking me 20 questions - "flexibility and adaptability" were key principles in the build. The universal pouch fit those requirements better than any tacos I've seen. Also I wanted to maximize ammo load out with out getting ridiculous. I train with this vest on and no it's not a lightweight like my Ten Speed, but it's not meant to be.
I think mission/purpose determines what's smart and what's not. But sounds like you're focusing on what's the right setup for you.

Turnkey11

04-24-17, 21:06

RobertTheTexan

04-24-17, 21:31

No issues here. Did you take your finger wet it and give the o-ring a swipe? Then try it? Can you tell of the pins are not engaging? In other words are there some marks that indicate the PTT female fitting is not going down far enough to engage?
You can try sending a pic of the 6 pin male on your radio. I can compare to mine.
Also I think I've used a little bit of oil on my finger or Vaseline maybe and swiped the o-ring. Technically you should probably use a silicone lube or something but I was not a commo dawg. It's been a long time since I've tried some of hose tricks I used as a soldier, but the "wet Willie" I've used more times than I can count.

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GTF425

04-24-17, 21:37

Did you have any issues hooking up your PTT? I cannot get my Peltor 6-pin to lock onto the radio connector for the life of me, already got a small blister on my palm trying to push and turn to lock it in place.

Lick it before you stick it.

Or use your finger to lube the o ring with spit.

Whichever.

RobertTheTexan

04-24-17, 21:38

Lick it before you stick it.

Or use your finger to lube the o ring with spit.

Whichever.

I've done both of these more times than I can count.

I even think I did it on a few radios too.

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Turnkey11

04-24-17, 21:42

I got her nice and wet first, it's as if I can't press it down far enough.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/01/20170424_213936_zpsic8yhuzd.jpg

GTF425

04-24-17, 21:51

You didn't yell "man hands" before you pushed. It gives a +10 for Strength.

Without getting hands on, it's hard to say. Let me check my gear box tomorrow and see if I have a dog bone I can mail your way for a comparison 6-pin fit.

RobertTheTexan

04-24-17, 22:04

I got her nice and wet first, it's as if I can't press it down far enough.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/01/20170424_213936_zpsic8yhuzd.jpg

Infant tell from the pics but do you have 2 nipples in your PTT cable? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170425/9bca4ea8fe5c3f26685e1dff4b6cfe69.jpg

In my pic they are at 10, 2 and 6. I couldn't tell if it was the lighting or if somehow they are not there. Which in itself would be pretty weird.

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Turnkey11

04-24-17, 22:12

I've got the 3 nipples, only fits one way. You can see where they are rubbing on the radio male connection, not getting down far enough to be able to turn and lock.

RobertTheTexan

04-24-17, 22:13

One more thing and not trying to be offensive here, but you are lining up your red marks from the PTT to your PRC right? I know it's kinda obvious but just trying to rule out the low hanging fruit. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170425/4e3696cccf5fe624c159542a1870fd07.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170425/32a5eb7a9957801c3f0031a907c46e21.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170425/54a6ebc5d28219f88f5db2cc73421478.jpg

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RobertTheTexan

04-24-17, 22:16

I've got the 3 nipples, only fits one way. You can see where they are rubbing on the radio male connection, not getting down far enough to be able to turn and lock.

Disregard previous post. :) have you used your Peltors on another radio with the 6 pin connector?

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Turnkey11

04-25-17, 04:14

No, everything is new. The comtac III and ptt are from a legit source, only thing made in China is the radio.

Outlander Systems

04-25-17, 07:01

1) How I missed this excellent thread is beyond me.
2) Turnkey11, If spit isn't working, try this:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0tEV2sOSwarNC2YjqJYq0ZEavxUc6l_XIgi9SFiGBA=w816-h612-no

3) Three tits on mine too.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/PuVDCqKe6Dk1N8b86i6mhWTd3sq9MvMndsJ6cSls4pvqjSBonb9xpv7xBuViSbK7-ApyAnzzZpIscgNTGxURjNR70ZRKcIvnLkfImSkPTblmeDaHXJGTM936eckdZ_T4t9tiXBxoAACZzYBsIpLKfU-J2pqHRPPuMSR0ZO-mqRNPhBMBEKGmp8Jbsmi-9s-F5NgWNMD_zNLVk26gIVsPpmLPJSd9tdOJ38SOYsN1C-Xz3kPO_yLmVEURhQH7i8TwvXAqMqFbR5xYMS832pF04y38M7flH9swiV-ewPpir2Xdut3WQXfY73r8-6HexakrLHrYIVMHpXe1C_-KJm5XiBr_xiGu-vaAA--FrDHt7KcdobPWUWO0fnQuDRje6yZv98cVqjfTwfFjvcOUqPpyO9gLfaUeeiCXNjtMA48Uzf2viYzrUYKw4N0y5Pohv-oJfZJVWQjrlzwLW7OFcPBV6HaZcKGTNIcfsEzpQmGWRW1KsX5uGsTWs1sX3zKrhOUndQq4LJDPilgU70MXP0UpgTfwXpZsm-6dOVjnLo3SGvj_JhEyR5TsvepOSl4E36sOXruQX2GkZlAMnumv1RYPZmxDb_GFOjJFQ3krt4FC5uvmjDSV6ZJq=w1280-h960-no

I've used the 148 with 4 different PTTs. Turnkey11, hook or by crook, we'll get you mated up...

RobertTheTexan

04-25-17, 08:11

1) How I missed this excellent thread is beyond me.

Thanks Brother-man. It was a lot of work. I kind of thought it was maybe too much information and too much detail. But if it helps someone then it's well worth the effort!

Thanks for helping out... I was hoping you'd catch the thread and you did.

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Outlander Systems

04-25-17, 08:41

Roger that.

Seriously, great, great thread.

One thing I haven't seen discussed, and one of the big pluses to the 148 is the ability for the radio to take disposables/CR-123As.

If one were to get on eBay, and search for, "Thales Battery," one could find milsurp CR-123A adapter packs for about $5-$7 shipped...

ETA: Robert, I just saw the Gerber Strongarm in your loadout. I recently picked one up, and I'm absolutely in love with that thing.

Thanks Brother-man. It was a lot of work. I kind of thought it was maybe too much information and too much detail. But if it helps someone then it's well worth the effort!

Thanks for helping out... I was hoping you'd catch the thread and you did.

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Outlander Systems

04-25-17, 08:58

Turnkey11,

It may not seem obvious, but once the PTT is pushed down, you'll want to rotate/twist the tits into the grooves on the 6-pin connector on the radio to lock it on.

Turnkey11

04-25-17, 14:12

Outlander Systems

04-25-17, 14:39

Roger that.

Yeah man, I'd steer clear of the pliers. I know these radios can be treated as poorly as a Glock and keep going, but that might be a bit extreme.

I'm going with that PTT as the culprit. I've used the radio with a Racal Headset, Peltor Comtac IIIs, a Thales hand mic, and a U94. All surplus, and all functioned properly.

I think I still have the Racal headset laying around. If you're willing to pay for shipping, I think I can squeeze it into a Medium Flat rate box.

I used these on AD back in 06-07, this ptt will not rotate onto the radio connection. I tried dielectric grease on both mating surfaces when I got home from work today, still no rotation. Need to find someone in driving distance with another ptt to see if it's my ptt or the radio. Still not brave enough to chuck it in my vise and put pliers on it.

pinzgauer

04-25-17, 14:49

I used these on AD back in 06-07, this ptt will not rotate onto the radio connection. I tried dielectric grease on both mating surfaces when I got home from work today, still no rotation. Need to find someone in driving distance with another ptt to see if it's my ptt or the radio. Still not brave enough to chuck it in my vise and put pliers on it.
Something I've had to do with military radios and Vic 1 intercom is that if I get a tough U-229, I carefully pry out the O-ring and try it without the O ring.

They usually go on with no problem. That confirms it's not a machining issue.

At that point you can either put the O ring back in after lubricating it well and a lot of times that's enough, or use a new o-ring if it appears the old one is super hard.

For certain items that I take on and off quite a bit I don't even use the O-ring.

If you use a very small flat blade screwdriver that is not see serrated you can pry them out without damage.

I'm intrigued by the radios, but it looks like the PRC 148 copies have become much more expensive. Yet the PRC 152 is still pretty reasonable. Is there a better place to buy these online?

I'm intrigued by them, but refused to pay more than a vx-7r runs just due to the Yaesu also including six meters and 220.

Outlander Systems

04-25-17, 15:22

Solid advice.

Regarding the radios, vs. the VX-7R, the biggest draw, from my perspective, is inter-connectivity with existing .mil kit. Beyond that, the battery is absolutely gargantuan at 5800 mAH, if you want to burn the sky, it's capable of 10W, Crossband-Repeat, and you could easily use one as a jack-stand for a truck in a pinch. They also monitor air-band, which is a plus in their favor.

FWIW, I consolidated a lot of my equipment, and I'm now in COMSPEC, monoband hell. It works for my uses, but I miss bullshitting with a couple of decent hams on some of the local repeaters.

Something I've had to do with military radios and Vic 1 intercom is that if I get a tough U-229, I carefully pry out the O-ring and try it without the O ring.

They usually go on with no problem. That confirms it's not a machining issue.

At that point you can either put the O ring back in after lubricating it well and a lot of times that's enough, or use a new o-ring if it appears the old one is super hard.

For certain items that I take on and off quite a bit I don't even use the O-ring.

If you use a very small flat blade screwdriver that is not see serrated you can pry them out without damage.

I'm intrigued by the radios, but it looks like the PRC 148 copies have become much more expensive. Yet the PRC 152 is still pretty reasonable. Is there a better place to buy these online?

I'm intrigued by them, but refused to pay more than a vx-7r runs just due to the Yaesu also including six meters and 220.

Turnkey11

04-25-17, 16:22

I looked at the 152''s as well, but all the reviews led me to believe they were built poorly compared to the 148s. I got the 148 for the water and dust resistance, and the compatability with millions 6-pin connectors. So far I have the water and dust part down, I'll try without the oring in a bit.

Edit* Without oring, still cannot rotate to lock it. I'll try another cable, gotta ask around work if someone has a 6 pin laying around.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/01/20170425_162714_zpsmgvnwsel.jpg

Outlander Systems

04-25-17, 16:42

RE: The 152

The clone 152 actually came out before the clone 148.

The 148 clones absolutely blow the 152s out of the water. The 152s use a proprietary battery, and the 148s are compatible with the gargantuan Thales batteries and CR123A adapters. If I'm not mistaken, there's a DC 12v adapter floating around out there as well.

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The 152 also requires extensive modifications to run with the .mil headsets.

Eurodriver

04-26-17, 06:26

Turnkey, that is unfortunate. Sorry we are hitting you with the newbie questions but we have to cover the bases.

I had a tough time getting my PTT in, but no more so than a typical PTT on a 148.

RobertTheTexan

04-26-17, 07:25

Hey Turnkey... A couple of thoughts on trying to narrow it down if you cannot find another 6 pin PTT adapter.
1. It was difficult to tell, but is that locking washer inside the PTT headset flush with the base of the pin nubs?
2. Can you verify that the nubs are in the same position as the slots on the male 6 pin on the radio? Maybe you can hold it upside down next to it.
3. Take something a small tape measure or even a toothpick and measure the radio 6 pin and measure the headset 6 pin just to make sure that the headset is seating far enough down.
I think we can agree that it's likely not, but maybe this can help you narrow down the part that is defective. Or as it said try another PTT cable or headset. I looked for an extra I would mail you, but no joy on that.
I have seen in the past where a cable
Was rebuilt and that circular retaining clip was not pressed deep enough and it prevented locking on the radios. These were standard mil spec Army radios. I can go out to my shop and check your radio and headset measurements.

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pinzgauer

04-26-17, 07:36

Without the o-ring the connector should click into place with just fingertip pressure. So it makes me think something is wrong. You should be able to feel it clear the bayonet notches.

On the radios, I was not aware there was that much of a difference between the two electrically. That explains the price difference.

I was aware of the audio issue, but did not know that the 148 clone would work with either condenser or dynamic mics.

Bummer, my interest level is a couple hundred bucks. I'll have to look for the 148 on sale or something

Outlander Systems

04-26-17, 07:59

Roger that.

I don't know if the availability has gotten better, but they were pretty difficult to come by a while back; a training company bought mine off me for $800. :cool:

Without the o-ring the connector should click into place with just fingertip pressure. So it makes me think something is wrong. You should be able to feel it clear the bayonet notches.

On the radios, I was not aware there was that much of a difference between the two electrically. That explains the price difference.

I was aware of the audio issue, but did not know that the 148 clone would work with either condenser or dynamic mics.

Bummer, my interest level is a couple hundred bucks. I'll have to look for the 148 on sale or something

Turnkey11

04-26-17, 22:58

Coworker has a JTAC buddy in town that will let me try a couple of his on the radio. I went ahead and ordered a U-94 ptt anyways, if the issue is the ptt I have now then I can scrap it for parts and stick with the U-94. If its the radio, then I will have a backup ptt when another radio arrives to replace the faulty one. Maybe Ill get lucky and someone will offer me $800 for this one!

ClearedHot

04-27-17, 04:07

Eurodriver

04-27-17, 05:05

Sorry if I'm being obtuse, but what can these MBITR clone radios do that a far cheaper ICOM F3S/F4S radio can't do? I got my ICOM F4S hooked up to a Sordin single comm with TP120 plug and a Nexus U94 PTT. Pretty solid intrasquad comms setup.

Over twice the amount of output power. Fully submersible. Larger frequency range. Way more rugged. Fully integrates with all .mil hardware. I'll let OS get into the nuts and bolts of it.

What does price have to do with anything?

RobertTheTexan

04-27-17, 05:48

Roger that.

I don't know if the availability has gotten better, but they were pretty difficult to come by a while back; a training company bought mine off me for $800. :cool:

Bought your PRC-148?

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Outlander Systems

04-27-17, 08:25

Depends. Is 9mm better than .45?

Benefits, as *I* see them:

If someone knows of an HT radio with a bigger battery, let me know. This is a huge plus for field-use.

Cross-band repeat.
Submersible.
Multi-Band: UHF/VHF/Air Band
Built like a brick.
Works with cheap milsurp goodies.
10W PEP

I was a greedy pig and sold mine to buy a fancy-assed mobile radio. I'll absolutely pick up another prick clone, because there isn't an existing ham HT that does what the 148 does for *my* wants and wishes as an analog dual-bander.

If I had an unlimited budget, I would be on the Batwing APX7000 like Euro on some audits. Unfortunately, that's not even remotely feasible until they are superseded and surplus radios start hitting fleabay. ~3k for a handheld is just slightly out of my budget.

Over twice the amount of output power. Fully submersible. Larger frequency range. Way more rugged. Fully integrates with all .mil hardware. I'll let OS get into the nuts and bolts of it.

What does price have to do with anything?

Outlander Systems

04-27-17, 08:44

Affirmative. Training company out of [REDACTED US ARMY INSTALLATION] bought it for fat stacks.

I then proceeded to fund a nice Digital rig with whiz-bang shit like telemetry, dispatching, file-transfers, route monitoring and remote-control.

You start messing with some of the newfangled digital stuff, and you can do some REALLY cool things...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ok3e5WE2wM622Z3Lx8kQGoD4-8tKUxNd3B0v9QCvaUruzMalJ0KvTyiiIv1ihpyFkoWc55bPWsKA-pF73H34QW3d6Gch6XS_dl5yzLEjuFBijIqr_bwDydrugyed5pBt2NgCzw2xWW2gdsHxbYW98dFPt80JqcCdN8KGQ7ROYqvqt5di7JuT1NW2A680r0gXqHZVE1hme05QBY9qVD1cxLPUn0bGGyK2NMHjkM7KFi_yycHGqejk0z3_UT9pVWmv_imSeq8PHoJ5b-EveiZZrWPM6yuvOa8e2zcKSsJVF4Et2VFmvq-l3WbopM63LXvG_d1mctCA9BH7SX3awt6MigWHtX5wq5NV3aFs7O8tCEAukVQgZ2Po4fTJp0yBliRlOoJl8dX_Efa8P5LB4acGarjJUxTZR3BwKuYpR9jGjzcjytBB27nuusdfjcnjFdj-H9pAtpk6ryBqQEUA43QlMkS-zBU8pZoYNIUoZrp3Xj4wBfU2H61ErU1YemNi5Wh95zdLGnhh9Otpp7UoHz3BgrupFAsMzOFyHqc11w4IvI063mET2emXTBohJHTXhS01gBWxCDKX3W_hKnXE_jCa4nj_8cc7ZlgARVYB8RBCY6mTQZ57YnSh=w961-h654-no

Bought your PRC-148?

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RobertTheTexan

04-27-17, 09:08

Outlander Systems

04-27-17, 09:29

TOCRoaches FTMFW!!!

Turnkey11

05-02-17, 20:05

Got the U94 today, went on absolutely no issues.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/01/20170502_195836_zpsqnrnixrr.jpg

Outlander Systems

05-02-17, 20:11

Good to hear. I had a feeling it was the female end that was giving you issues.

Got the U94 today, went on absolutely no issues.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/01/20170502_195836_zpsqnrnixrr.jpg

RobertTheTexan

05-03-17, 00:04

Got the U94 today, went on absolutely no issues.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/01/20170502_195836_zpsqnrnixrr.jpg

Great news turnkey!!
Interesting day when the Chinese stuff is in spec and the "other" isn't. Lol. Just interesting is all I'm sayin'.....

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Eurodriver

05-03-17, 06:09

Good to hear. I had a feeling it was the female end that was giving you issues.

Story of my life.

Turnkey11

05-04-17, 15:26

Great news turnkey!!
Interesting day when the Chinese stuff is in spec and the "other" isn't. Lol. Just interesting is all I'm sayin'.....

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My thoughts as well. Any idea if the connector can be modified or rebuilt to work on the peltor ptt? Id like to see a schematic at least before blindly taking a wrench to it.

Outlander Systems

05-04-17, 16:56

I would see if you can get access to an alternate PTT.

I had a dual kit for a while and both PTTs worked. When I ditched that for a single, it worked as well. All Peltor PTTs in the above scenario. No problems whatsoever.

My thoughts as well. Any idea if the connector can be modified or rebuilt to work on the peltor ptt? Id like to see a schematic at least before blindly taking a wrench to it.

RobertTheTexan

05-04-17, 17:28

My thoughts as well. Any idea if the connector can be modified or rebuilt to work on the peltor ptt? Id like to see a schematic at least before blindly taking a wrench to it.

I sent my Liberator II's into TCI and they replaced the lead cable and coil assembly 17-inw/AP-176 connector. Best part they only charged me for the parts and they ran full diagnostics on it and cleaned it up for me. I told them that I wasn't the original user/owner. One reason I will probably stick with them in the future. They got bought out by SafariLand, but the repairs and whatnot still happen in the TCI shop and once you get past the Safariland first line, you're speaking straight to TCI peeps.

I think Peltor has as good reputation. I'd contact them regardless of whether you are original owner.
Worst case scenario you buy the DIN connector and get a pinout for it and install it yourself. I can contribute some heat shrink. :)
Or if you aren't a commodawg, we probably have someone on the forum who could fix that for you. Right Outlander?

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Outlander Systems

05-04-17, 19:13

Damn right. I can run a solder gun like a mother****ing BOSS.

SOWT

05-08-17, 17:27

Outlander Systems

05-09-17, 15:46

IIRC, there's an impedence mis-match between the 152 and the dynamic mics on the .mil headsets.

There's a fix, that doesn't involve cracking open the radio:

https://shop.jkarmy.com/tri-ae-adapter-cable.html

Is the 148 better? Yes.

Does the 152 blow most of the amateur radio gear out of the water? Pretty much. The 152 is built for doing something other than sitting in a recliner.

Wish I had seen your comment before spending my money.
What mods do I need to make?
or would you suggest dumping the 152 and waiting for a 148 to show up on ebay?

-HOOT-

06-17-17, 15:22

Just curious, why are you guys running the Thales 1m blade antenna on this radio? Its a 30-90MHz antenna which is outside the frequency range of the TRI PRC-148.

Outlander Systems

06-17-17, 15:51

@HOOT

I, personally, was not. TRI makes a dual-band whip for 2m/440.

pinzgauer

06-17-17, 16:06

For what it's worth, the TRI PRC-148 lookalikes are available again. Running $345-360 online.

Would love to have one, but can't justify the bucks for a ruggedized CCR (Cheap Chinese Radio).

But still very neat!

RobertTheTexan

06-17-17, 17:11

Just curious, why are you guys running the Thales 1m blade antenna on this radio? Its a 30-90MHz antenna which is outside the frequency range of the TRI PRC-148.

Probably because I hadn't finished reading Antennas 101 before I bought that antenna. If you want to know why, I'd say that's probably it. Not knowing any better or ignorance. They both work for me.

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Outlander Systems

06-17-17, 19:05

It would appear TRI is releasing a new version of the PRC-152 called the PRC-152A with an aluminum housing, and the same capabilities as the 148:

https://m.facebook.com/MONDA.INT/

@pinzgauer:

You doing field day this year?

-HOOT-

06-18-17, 06:08

Probably because I hadn't finished reading Antennas 101 before I bought that antenna. If you want to know why, I'd say that's probably it. Not knowing any better or ignorance. They both work for me.

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Gotcha. I'm no expert by any means but other than not getting optimal performance out of the antenna I believe you could potentially damage the radio.

just a scout

06-18-17, 06:47

$6700??? You could buy the real deal for that much!

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pinzgauer

06-18-17, 07:54

$6700??? You could buy the real deal for that much!

NT$6700 = $220.65 US

If it's electrically the same as the PRC148
Lookalike I might have to get one. The main thing was the headset setup, if this one works with mil accy I'm in.

@Outlander- a buddy is trying to get me to go to the Jasper field day. I'm probably more interested in hitting some local ones just to check them out.

You know of any good ones?

BTW, just put 3 NMO mounts on my truck, just had HF prior. One is waiting for a DMR dual band or similar. Until then I'm at least up on 2m/70cm.

RobertTheTexan

06-18-17, 08:33

Gotcha. I'm no expert by any means but other than not getting optimal performance out of the antenna I believe you could potentially damage the radio.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170618/4d7e854981ccb1fb83bbe2b1a81496c0.jpg

Thanks for the heads up. This is a book I've been that I'm reading and I'm also studying for my HAM license.
I have a 2m blade on it now relocated to the back of my X harness. Same setup as beforeI just picked up a longer antenna routed to my x harness.

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pinzgauer

06-18-17, 08:53

Looks like the updated prc-152 definitely supports dynamic or condenser mics.

So it looks like it matches the electronics of the 148.

It also looks like there are some options for aprs but they may not have it working yet. (Found a bug and took it off the market)

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-HOOT-

06-18-17, 12:39

$6700??? You could buy the real deal for that much!

I doubt you could even if you had the money to burn, and I'm talking about the PRC-6809 which is the clear version of the PRC-148.

If it's electrically the same as the PRC148 lookalike I might have to get one. The main thing was the headset setup, if this one works with mil accy I'm in.

If I'm not mistaken TCA and TRI are two different companies.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170618/4d7e854981ccb1fb83bbe2b1a81496c0.jpg

Thanks for the heads up. This is a book I've been that I'm reading and I'm also studying for my HAM license.
I have a 2m blade on it now relocated to the back of my X harness. Same setup as beforeI just picked up a longer antenna routed to my x harness.

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No problem! I was genuinely curious, maybe Thales had a broadband blade antenna which I didn't know about.

pinzgauer

06-18-17, 12:46

An acquaintance sold 3 152 variants at Dayton this year, was going to ping him to get the scoop. They went for $3k each if I recall.

Outlander Systems

06-18-17, 14:19

Roger that. The North Fulton Circlejerk Elitists Club is doing one in Roswell that might be worth checking out. :p

Me and some bros are planning on heading up to the mountains for Field Day.

NMOs are absolutely the way to go. I had to work up some courage to drill into the roof of a (then) brand new vehicle.

NT$6700 = $220.65 US

If it's electrically the same as the PRC148
Lookalike I might have to get one. The main thing was the headset setup, if this one works with mil accy I'm in.

@Outlander- a buddy is trying to get me to go to the Jasper field day. I'm probably more interested in hitting some local ones just to check them out.

You know of any good ones?

BTW, just put 3 NMO mounts on my truck, just had HF prior. One is waiting for a DMR dual band or similar. Until then I'm at least up on 2m/70cm.

Outlander Systems

06-18-17, 14:20

Studying for your license!?!?

Hell yeah. Dude!!! :neo:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170618/4d7e854981ccb1fb83bbe2b1a81496c0.jpg

Thanks for the heads up. This is a book I've been that I'm reading and I'm also studying for my HAM license.
I have a 2m blade on it now relocated to the back of my X harness. Same setup as beforeI just picked up a longer antenna routed to my x harness.

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RobertTheTexan

06-18-17, 16:15

Studying for your license!?!?

Hell yeah. Dude!!! :neo:
I can't go and let you have all the fun brother!

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pinzgauer

06-19-17, 16:05

Me and some bros are planning on heading up to the mountains for Field Day.

That's the best kind! My favorite was a vertical on a pontoon boat with my Kenwood TS-430 on Lake Allatoona. Had big signal in the wee hours of the morning.

Sounds like fun! I don't know if I'll operate much, but if I were going to setup it'd be up near the NC border, etc.

NMOs are absolutely the way to go. I had to work up some courage to drill into the roof of a (then) brand new vehicle.

I did this fairly carefully, dropped the headliner in the ram Cummins 4x4. Decided to put three in while I was doing it.

I'm an old 2-way radio guy, grew up on it through high school and college. So NMO's were old hat, but it's still dicey to punch that first hole!

Outlander Systems

06-19-17, 16:10

The 'Toona is great. Despite what people say about, the "Dead Sea" I've pulled some monster slabs outta that place.

Mountains will be weather dependent. If a storm rolls in, I'm packing my tower up and hitting the road!

Dude, I feel you. It took me a solid month to work up the stones to get to drilling.

That's the best kind! My favorite was a vertical on a pontoon boat with my Kenwood TS-430 on Lake Allatoona. Had big signal in the wee hours of the morning.

Sounds like fun! I don't know if I'll operate much, but if I were going to setup it'd be up near the NC border, etc.

I did this fairly carefully, dropped the headliner in the ram Cummins 4x4. Decided to put three in while I was doing it.

I'm an old 2-way radio guy, grew up on it through high school and college. So NMO's were old hat, but it's still dicey to punch that first hole!

YO_Doc

07-04-17, 12:34

what online sources are you using for these PRC clones?

Outlander Systems

07-04-17, 13:03

https://shop.jkarmy.com/tri-prc148-uv-mbitr-radio-military-pin-ipx-7-prc-148-bk.html

what online sources are you using for these PRC clones?

Sparky5019

07-08-17, 16:58

What kind of power output are you getting with that and what frequencies are you using?

Edit: answered my question...10 watts if I read it right. Do you need a HAM license to use it?

How do you program it?

Thanks!

Outlander Systems

07-08-17, 20:40

Affirmative on the 10 watts PEP.

Yes, a valid Technician Class Operator license would be required to use these legally.

Frequencies are manually entered via the knob at the top, and 256 channels can be stored to memory if I recall correctly.

What kind of power output are you getting with that and what frequencies are you using?

Edit: answered my question...10 watts if I read it right. Do you need a HAM license to use it?

How do you program it?

Thanks!

Sparky5019

07-08-17, 20:44

Upon more research...

Y'all are discussing waterproofness so...NSW uses the 10-pin versions so I'll assume that gives better contact when wet or seals better when submerged. Any thoughts on the same radio but in 10-pin configuration?

http://https://shop.jkarmy.com/tri-prc148-uv-mbitr-radio-maritime-version-real-10pins-custom-made-ipx-7-bk-tri-148-limited-edition.html

In the echoing words of Euro..."What does price have to do with anything?"

Sparky5019

07-08-17, 20:47

Affirmative on the 10 watts PEP.

Yes, a valid Technician Class Operator license would be required to use these legally.

Frequencies are manually entered via the knob at the top, and 256 channels can be stored to memory if I recall correctly.

Thanks! Now...

Is there ANY programming software and cable that will work? I know enough to be dangerous but it would be much easier and my recent experience with Chicom radios showed me that while unit may good, the programming options are complete shit.

-HOOT-

07-09-17, 04:54

You can set the radio to High (10W) Middle (5W) and Low (1W) power modes.

As far as I'm aware there's no programming cable yet, but its easy enough to program through the front panel, just takes some patience. You can program 128 channels on the A band and another 128 channels on the B band, so 256 total as Outlander mentioned.

The 6 pin Land and 10 pin Maritime models are identical aside from the plug, meaning they're both rated only to IP67 so there's not going to be much difference in waterproof performance. It just comes down to whether you need to run 10pin commo gear or not.

Sparky5019

07-09-17, 08:15

I'm running a Silynx Clarus PTT with ear molds and in ear mic so the cable has to made by Silynx. I have a U94 PTT that takes the Nexxus plug for my ComTac IIIs and it's 10-pin so that might be a better choice. I've been trying to post pics of my setup but it keeps saying the linked Photobucket file is too large. I'll get some on here at some point. Thanks.

Sparky5019

07-09-17, 09:24

Here are my setups. All LBT-6094A carriers. They have integrated radio pockets in the sides which really like. The down side for me is the radio pocket is setup for a tall MBITR type radio and I have to put a spacer in it for the smaller radio. Not so with the TRI radio so I'm intrigued.

Thales antennas
Atlantic signal antenna cables w/ 90 degree TNC connectors.
Silynx Clarus PTT

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-HOOT-

07-09-17, 14:35

Do you have the cable that runs from the Silynx Clarus PTT to the radio?

Sparky5019

07-09-17, 14:40

Do you have the cable that runs from the Silynx Clarus PTT to the radio?

Not yet. I'm checking with Silynx to see if they can do a 10-pin connector since I already have a Nexxus U94 PTT with a 10-pin that can work with my ComTac IIIs. I have a Sylinx cable for the RDV5100 but not the TRI/PRC-148.

The 13" Thales 90-512mHz antennas are only rated to 8w max according to Thales. Is anyone seeing issues running the TRI on full power?

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-HOOT-

07-09-17, 15:34

That's what I was going to suggest, make sure that you can purchase a 10 pin cable from them first.

Sparky5019

07-09-17, 15:36

That's what I was going to suggest, make sure that you can purchase a 10 pin cable from them first.

Yeah. They do a 6-pin already so I'm good there if they don't do the 10. Thanks for being sure I'm wired tight. I appreciate that.

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-HOOT-

07-09-17, 15:46

Sparky5019

07-09-17, 15:48

Right, you'd save a lot of money going for that regardless since you can pick up a 6 pin Nexus U94 PTT for less than $50 on eBay and resell your 10 pin for around $200.

I don't know if running the Thales antenna over 8W will damage it but you can always set the radio at 5W to avoid any problems.

That's what I was thinking too but conversely those Thales antennas go for like $50 new on eBay so I'd be willing to try it if I needed to the power.

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Sparky5019

07-09-17, 16:52

Slight digression...

What are the best resources for HAM license learning?

Thanks!!

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Outlander Systems

07-09-17, 18:33

Sparky, this is the definitive guide for getting your tech ticket:

https://www.amazon.com/ARRL-Ham-Radio-License-Manual/dp/1625950136

Also, a while back, I wrote a very basic/Cliff notes post about Comms here:

https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?188041-Intro-to-Radio-Communications

Sparky5019

07-09-17, 18:34

Sparky, this is the definitive guide for getting your tech ticket:

https://www.amazon.com/ARRL-Ham-Radio-License-Manual/dp/1625950136

Perfect. Thanks so much!

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officerX

07-27-17, 21:17

I can't go and let you have all the fun brother!

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Trying to PM you - inbox full.

mack7.62

07-27-17, 22:16

Slight digression...

What are the best resources for HAM license learning?

Thanks!!
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You can take practice exams here:

https://www.qrz.com/hamtest/

trackmagic

08-13-17, 15:21

Has anybody tried TRI's version of the PRC152? I don't know much about the 148 or the 152, but isn't the 152 the newer model? Is there any reason I should get the 148 over the 152?

Sparky5019

08-13-17, 15:28

You can take practice exams here:

https://www.qrz.com/hamtest/

Thanks!

Upon further reading, it SEEMS clear that you only need to register with FCC to use power output of the TRI 148 and having a technician class license is not a requirement. Am I reading this correctly?

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Outlander Systems

08-13-17, 16:31

In the TRI timeline the 152 came out before the 148. The 148 is better.

That being said, they are releasing a new version of the 152 in an aluminum housing that should be superior to either of the existing two.

Has anybody tried TRI's version of the PRC152? I don't know much about the 148 or the 152, but isn't the 152 the newer model? Is there any reason I should get the 148 over the 152?

RobertTheTexan

08-13-17, 16:34

In the TRI timeline the 152 came out before the 148. The 148 is better.

That being said, they are releasing a new version of the 152 in an aluminum housing that should be superior to either of the existing two.

Radios are just like computers. Just when you think you can run with the dogs, you find yourself out in the back 40 tending to 3 legged goats.

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trackmagic

08-13-17, 17:55

In the TRI timeline the 152 came out before the 148. The 148 is better.

That being said, they are releasing a new version of the 152 in an aluminum housing that should be superior to either of the existing two.

Just found it on thier facebook page. It will do HF bands as well. Looks sweet!

Outlander Systems

08-13-17, 18:08

I kinda want it. They need to hurry the hell up and get it out to retail.

Just found it on thier facebook page. It will do HF bands as well. Looks sweet!

Eurodriver

09-03-17, 08:45

I think I may have found what kills this 148.

Shooting it.

:(

It still Rx's but Tx is spotty.

RobertTheTexan

09-03-17, 08:57

I think I may have found what kills this 148.

Shooting it.

:(

It still Rx's but Tx is spotty.

Shooting it? Dare we ask down "the rest of the story?"

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GTF425

09-03-17, 09:14

Shooting it? Dare we ask down "the rest of the story?"

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Doing hoodrat shit.

pinzgauer

09-03-17, 10:08

Exceeded the instantaneous kinetic energy absortion rate, eh?

RobertTheTexan

09-03-17, 11:59

Doing hoodrat shit.

Lol no doubt

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Eurodriver

09-03-17, 12:34

The fatal shot.

https://i.imgur.com/0ic2v5Z.png

Outlander Systems

09-03-17, 13:02

OMFG!!!

THAT IS NO WAY TO TREAT A PIECE OF ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT!

The fatal shot.

https://i.imgur.com/0ic2v5Z.png

RobertTheTexan

09-03-17, 13:22

The fatal shot.

https://i.imgur.com/0ic2v5Z.png

Did it stop working prior to you shooting it?

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GTF425

09-03-17, 13:48

The fatal shot.

Hoodrat.

jpmuscle

09-03-17, 16:39

Hoodrat.Uncultured AF, obviously.

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noonesshowmonkey

09-05-17, 19:28

Hooligannery & shennanigans.

I'm in the wrong line of work! I can't afford a PRC148, much less one to use as target practice.

pinzgauer

09-05-17, 20:26

So what did it do to deserve that fate? I could see center punching a Butfunk, but not your radio

RobertTheTexan

09-05-17, 21:22

So what did it do to deserve that fate? I could see center punching a Butfunk, but not your radio

See below good sir for the psychological evaluation and analysis conducted by one of M4C's resident medical experts:

I give you....Dr. GTF425
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170906/5caf9b808b17169c31f8ebf6d3636304.png

Said analysis confirmed and substantiated by Dr. JP

I present his findings...

Uncultured AF, obviously.

There you go... drops mic.

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pinzgauer

09-05-17, 22:13

Most analysis holds that has been a hoodrat for a while, yet never felt the urge to perforate a fauz prc before. Something made him hoodratier?

Eurodriver

09-06-17, 20:43

Sorry

Eurodriver

09-09-17, 00:00

nvm...

trackmagic

09-13-17, 17:24

Any of you guys know if the TRI PRC148 can cross band repeat?

Outlander Systems

09-13-17, 17:33

It can but I never tried to use it.

Any of you guys know if the TRI PRC148 can cross band repeat?

-HOOT-

09-14-17, 12:25

If somebody wants a real one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/202054597182?ul_noapp=true

It might come with a free visit from the feds though.

Eurodriver

09-16-17, 13:50

https://youtu.be/Yk3k-oMNgpU

SeriousStudent

09-16-17, 17:34

At 49 seconds, the wind noise obscured your comment about battery life. How long had it been running on that current charge?

RobertTheTexan

09-16-17, 17:40

https://youtu.be/Yk3k-oMNgpU

I think this is an excellent commercial for the radio.
"Everyone who wants to hate in his radio bleep them, it's a lifesaver."
Cool video Euro. Is it ok to share this?

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Outlander Systems

09-16-17, 17:41

I *think* he said the entire time he's had it.

Just a point of reference. The battery holds almost the equivalent juice of a small motorcycle battery or a UPC battery.

At 49 seconds, the wind noise obscured your comment about battery life. How long had it been running on that current charge?

Eurodriver

09-16-17, 17:56

Feel free to share.

At 49 seconds, the wind noise obscured your comment about battery life. How long had it been running on that current charge?

Literally the entire time I've had it, which is almost a full year. It was delivered to my house Sept 26, 2016 and I lost the charger shortly thereafter. I just got a new one this very afternoon and recharged it, but it was still going along fine at ~30%. The timeline sounds almost made up, but it isn't. Absolutely incredible.

RobertTheTexan

09-16-17, 18:16

Thanks Euro.

It really is one helluva engineering process or perhaps maybe put- One helluva reverse engineering that they really did nail. I've used my radio, monitoring mostly, and while my charge time isn't quite like yours, I know it hasn't seen a charger this side of January.

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SeriousStudent

09-16-17, 18:48

Feel free to share.

Literally the entire time I've had it, which is almost a full year. It was delivered to my house Sept 26, 2016 and I lost the charger shortly thereafter. I just got a new one this very afternoon and recharged it, but it was still going along fine at ~30%. The timeline sounds almost made up, but it isn't. Absolutely incredible.

Thank you. I decided to find time to start studying for my FCC license (again) and was debating a pair of these.

Outlander Systems

09-16-17, 19:11

Dew it. I was considering picking up an XTS-5000 but I'm heavily leaning toward getting another 148 after Eurodriver has thoroughly trashed his.

Thank you. I decided to find time to start studying for my FCC license (again) and was debating a pair of these.

Eurodriver

09-16-17, 22:57

Oddly enough my 148 battery took a shit this evening. I'm still not sure what happened. I was programming channels in my radio and it died despite a full battery. It never turned back on.

I had a backup battery case Outlander gave me as a gift that ran on CR123s. I filled it up with 12 of them and the radio works fine. It also works fine on the charger. Unsure exactly what happened but I've ordered another battery.

The timing and easy handling it was experiencing when it shut off makes me nervous it may be the new charger damaging the battery but I'm not sure. We'll see in a week or so.

It's hard for me to really fault this radio given the abuse I've put it through so far, but I've had to drop some coin in this for a new mic ($50) and now a surplus battery ($37)

I've got videos of me literally jumping on it in the mud. I've shot at it. Submerged it many times. Yet gets 9.7 watts PEP and still keeps chuggingwhich is incredible for a handheld. The battery life is listed at 1.2 hours of Tx (at 10w!) 1.2 hours of Rx *and* 9.6 hours of standby.

OS what's that new 152 that just came out?

RobertTheTexan

09-17-17, 06:54

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mack7.62

10-02-17, 08:57

I am seeing the new metal case 152's on ebay, wondering how they will compare to the 148's, price is coming down also, one seller had them at $329 but now down to $289 + $25 shipping. Tempted, not a bad deal but I just bought a 148 for a lot more $. :(

pinzgauer

10-02-17, 09:12

OS what's that new 152 that just came out?

Supposedly the new 152 is closer to the 148 functionality, and addresses the old audio impedance issue. I had asked the victory Tri guy about that a while back and that's what he told me.

Eurodriver

10-02-17, 20:00

I’m just not sure if it’s worth getting the 152 if I already have a 148 setup wth the peltors and everything. Esp after what I heard about the old ones, but I also hear there’s a new maker but can’t find them

Outlander Systems

12-17-17, 19:09

I just picked up one of the new 152s.

The lower price is due to not shipping with an issued battery.

I'll post info when I get hands on it.

I’m just not sure if it’s worth getting the 152 if I already have a 148 setup wth the peltors and everything. Esp after what I heard about the old ones, but I also hear there’s a new maker but can’t find them

lahunter57

12-17-17, 21:52

I just picked up one of the new 152s.

The lower price is due to not shipping with an issued battery.

I'll post info when I get hands on it.

Are there any advantages of the 152 over the 148?

Also, did you get the one sold by JKarmy?

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Outlander Systems

12-18-17, 06:36

Unsure yet; shouldn't arrive for a week or so, but I'll definitely post up thoughts when it arrives. One thing is for sure, it should be much easier to program with the keypad.

Yes.

Are there any advantages of the 152 over the 148?

Also, did you get the one sold by JKarmy?

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SOWT

12-19-17, 13:16

Are there any advantages of the 152 over the 148?

Also, did you get the one sold by JKarmy?

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I bought the JKArmy 152.
I can't compare it to the 148, but it seems solid. I don't know if I got a bad battery, but mine doesn't seem to hold a charge when attached to the radio module. I went on Ebay and pick up a CR123 and AA battery pack, so I should be covered. I also bought the adaptor cord, but getting the Peltors and radio hooked up was probably me (I lost most of my grip strength, so pushing the connectors together was a bit of a challenge).

How do the JKArmy batteries compare to the real deal?

Outlander Systems

12-19-17, 19:16

Is it the new-school 152, or the OG version?

Just to add to the confusion, the timeline of the Clones is as follows:

PRC-152(UV)
PRC-148(UV)
PRC-152(UVH)

The new models just came out last month, and *are* compatible with Harris Batteries, etc. They've also added HF (10m) to the new ones as well.

If you have the original PRC-152 (Polymer-bodied version) you can get surplus batteries modified to work with the old-school 152:

https://www.american-milspec.com/p-6572-modify-a-harris-prc-152-battery-to-work-with-airsoft-tri-replica-radios.aspx

I bought the JKArmy 152.
I can't compare it to the 148, but it seems solid. I don't know if I got a bad battery, but mine doesn't seem to hold a charge when attached to the radio module. I went on Ebay and pick up a CR123 and AA battery pack, so I should be covered. I also bought the adaptor cord, but getting the Peltors and radio hooked up was probably me (I lost most of my grip strength, so pushing the connectors together was a bit of a challenge).

How do the JKArmy batteries compare to the real deal?

Outlander Systems

01-03-18, 09:54

lahunter57

01-03-18, 11:26

Showed up. Still fooling around with it, but my initial impression is that it is functionally very similar to the 148, with some enhancements. Most notably the addition of 10m.

https://outlandersystemssite.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/screenshot_20180103-104931.png

Can you post the link to the specific one you got? I see several models on there but it’s not very clear what the differences are.

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Outlander Systems

01-03-18, 12:38

https://shop.jkarmy.com/tri-prc-152-aluminum-walkie-talkie-multiband-inter-intra-team-radio-ips-12-6v-ipx-7-prc-152-tri-152-od.html

Just for clarification, there are three separate models of the PRC-152 clones:

There is the original, old-school one, that has a polymer body, and operates as a basic radio with VHF/UHF access.

There are the new-school, aluminum-bodied versions, with the functionality of the PRC-148 (Cross-band repeating, full-compatibility with various .mil headsets, trucker mics, etc.).

The differences between the two new, aluminum versions are:

UV: 5W Max Output. VHF/UHF
UVH: 10W Max Output. VHF/UHF/HF(10m)

The link above is for the UVH version.

I was able to test compatibility with the CR123 adapters, AA adapters, and issued Harris batteries. All fully function.

https://outlandersystemssite.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/screenshot_20180103-133414.png

The biggest difference I've noticed thus far, in terms of hardware (compared to the PRC-148), is that it also has Analog Encryption (Voice Frequency Inversion), the ability to switch between modes with a secondary lever below the volume potentiometer, quick-key functions on the front panel, and the addition of the 28Mhz/10m band.

It's cheaper than the 148 by about $100; mostly because the 148 ships with a .mil Thales battery, and the new 152s drop with a TRI Li-ion battery.

I will say this; like the 148, the receive sensitivity on this unit is phenomenal. I can get a full signal in a concrete room, underground, which does *not* occur with either of my Professional LMR radios (Hytera, Motorola).

Can you post the link to the specific one you got? I see several models on there but it’s not very clear what the differences are.

mack7.62

01-03-18, 12:45

Is the HF RX/TX or RX only?

Outlander Systems

01-03-18, 15:42

It is supposed to be RX/TX capable. The manual isn't the greatest, so I'm attempting to figure out how to get it switched into HF-mode.

Is the HF RX/TX or RX only?

TCBA_Joe

04-24-18, 14:42

So, to the experienced radio guys. I started looking into HAM recently because I saw these and they seem to get decent reviews.

Are these really crap compared to a regular cheap baofeng? I can't tell if guys are negative on these workable radios because they're lumping all airsoft radios together, because they are kinda expensive for what they are, or if they're expensive compared to other similar radios with significantly less capability.

Also, is there any programming that can be done externally? Or is it all adding each frequency individually?

Outlander Systems

04-24-18, 19:24

Baofengs are absolute garbage. The TRI radios are anything but.

For EMCOM you have a battery with tremendous storage, and these radios can be used to smash cinder blocks.

I don’t know of any programming cables for these, but adding channels through the front panel is easy enough.

lahunter57

04-27-18, 11:41

I just learned that my wife bought be the 152 for my birthday. I’ve been waiting a couple months for it to come back in stock. Can’t wait to get into it!

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Outlander Systems

04-27-18, 13:51

Right on. You'll love it.

I just learned that my wife bought be the 152 for my birthday. I’ve been waiting a couple months for it to come back in stock. Can’t wait to get into it!

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TCBA_Joe

04-27-18, 14:21

Do the gold pin connectors on the side have any functionality?

On the real deal units you can use them for mics, power, and data transfer. Looking at the build pictures they do something, but there's no listed "what" they can do.

RobertTheTexan

04-27-18, 18:11

I just learned that my wife bought be the 152 for my birthday. I’ve been waiting a couple months for it to come back in stock. Can’t wait to get into it!

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Congrats!!! And happy birthday!

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Turnkey11

04-28-18, 12:07

Showed up. Still fooling around with it, but my initial impression is that it is functionally very similar to the 148, with some enhancements. Most notably the addition of 10m.

https://outlandersystemssite.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/screenshot_20180103-104931.png

Did they spell "speaker" right this time or is it still "speacker"?

Outlander Systems

04-28-18, 15:33

Speaker:

Internal - External

:haha:

Same Speacker on the 152 lol.

Did they spell "speaker" right this time or is it still "speacker"?

lahunter57

05-04-18, 17:49

It came! This thing is legit! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180504/95912eecc8b87146040e24dbb11ab7ce.jpg

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glock21xxx

05-04-18, 18:01

It came! This thing is legit! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180504/95912eecc8b87146040e24dbb11ab7ce.jpg

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Where’d you pick this up?

lahunter57

05-04-18, 18:06

Where’d you pick this up?

It came from jkarmy.com . Don’t be put off by the airsoft website. If you look back through this thread you’ll see that these radios and jkarmy are legit.

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Outlander Systems

05-04-18, 19:03

Right the hell on, dude!

It came! This thing is legit! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180504/95912eecc8b87146040e24dbb11ab7ce.jpg

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lahunter57

05-05-18, 14:27

Right the hell on, dude!

I’m pretty pumped about it. It’s going to take me a while to figure out all of the functions though. I’m new to the comm world

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glock21xxx

05-05-18, 19:40

I’m pretty pumped about it. It’s going to take me a while to figure out all of the functions though. I’m new to the comm world

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Is it the $245 one?

contax_shooter

05-05-18, 19:50

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/971/41199304474_96ebf50684_b.jpg

TXBK

05-05-18, 20:16

I’m curious what everyone has paid for shipping, from jkarmy.

lahunter57

05-05-18, 20:20

I’m curious what everyone has paid for shipping, from jkarmy.

$60

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TXBK

05-05-18, 20:40

Just checking...that was a tough pill to swallow.

44Dave

05-06-18, 08:28

So on the 152 HF - what mode does it transmit in? Just FM?

Turnkey11

05-10-18, 20:09

Part of me tells me I NEED the -152 now...

BrigandTwoFour

08-16-18, 08:53

Can't believe this thread has been up for two years and I still haven't made a jump on getting my license...

I'm scheduled to take it soon, and settled on a a HT first. So, polling the group, is the 148/152 a better way to go over starting with something like a Yaesu FT-60 or VX-6r?

Outlander Systems

08-16-18, 09:13

Short answer:

Absolutely.

So, polling the group, is the 148/152 a better way to go over starting with something like a Yaesu FT-60 or VX-6r?

quino171

08-19-18, 20:57

So.....new to the community, stalking this thread. Which model is compatible with current MIL equipment for the Harris?

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Mr. Goodtimes

08-19-18, 21:15

So.....new to the community, stalking this thread. Which model is compatible with current MIL equipment for the Harris?

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Just buy a cell phone. They have Internet in them now days and you don’t have to take some phaggy test to use it. Far more useful than the talking brick.

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RobertTheTexan

08-19-18, 21:41

So.....new to the community, stalking this thread. Which model is compatible with current MIL equipment for the Harris?

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The radio in this post is compatible with Peltors or as I used in my set up, the TCI Liberator II. The same manufacturer that made the PRC-148 has a newer PRC-152.

That is also covered a bit by Outlander, some in this post and I think a couple more.

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RobertTheTexan

08-19-18, 21:48

So.....new to the community, stalking this thread. Which model is compatible with current MIL equipment for the Harris?

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And specifically with what mil equipment for the Harris are you talking about? And ehat Harris? A Harris PRC-XXX?

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Stranger45

10-01-18, 09:08

Is this the same radio?

https://www.tacticalgeartrade.com/prc-152.html

Outlander Systems

10-01-18, 10:01

Negative. That is the olde-thyme original version.

Is this the same radio?

https://www.tacticalgeartrade.com/prc-152.html

Stranger45

10-01-18, 17:01

Negative. That is the olde-thyme original version.

Thanks.

Outlander Systems

10-01-18, 18:08

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F283127903793

trackmagic

10-02-18, 20:49

I'm in Hong Kong right now and wad going to go to JK Army to buy one of these radios, but they are out of stock:(

Anybody know where else i might find one? Seems airsoft all comes from here.

Also will i have any issues with customs trying to bring in a military radio clone?

RobertTheTexan

10-03-18, 14:14

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F283127903793

Is that the new one boss? The one that's better than my old PRC-148??

Outlander Systems

10-03-18, 18:42

A-ffirmative.

Is that the new one boss? The one that's better than my old PRC-148??

RobertTheTexan

10-04-18, 02:10

A-ffirmative.

Roger roger

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Pointman1177

11-02-18, 11:30

I have been a HAM for quite some time now and this is the first I have heard of these radios. They look awesome and I am glad to see this thread getting so much attention. I will have to look into these radios a little more, they are certainly interesting.

conspiro agnew

12-08-18, 20:25

Just curious what you guys that have one of the new versions of the 152 are using antenna-wise for HF?

Also, saw from an earlier post about the the antennas being rated for 8W, any feedback on running it full power (10W) on those antennas? Or did you get something else?

Thanks for any info/feedback. I'm starting to study for my HAM license, and am interested in getting one of these.

BrigandTwoFour

01-26-19, 12:32

Alright...three years later, I finally did it. I placed my order for one of the newer aluminum-cased 10w 152 models.

Working on the license now, I want to knock out tech and general at the same time if I can.

Outlander Systems

01-31-19, 09:56

Solid. Do it.

Tech: Local
General: Worldwide

Alright...three years later, I finally did it. I placed my order for one of the newer aluminum-cased 10w 152 models.

Working on the license now, I want to knock out tech and general at the same time if I can.

inune

01-31-19, 19:12

Working on the license now, I want to knock out tech and general at the same time if I can.

Same. Test on Saturday. Feel pretty good about the one. Thinking while I'm there I'll try the other...getting close

BrigandTwoFour

02-01-19, 21:20

Received the radio today. This thing feels like a tank.

I'm going to have to learn how to program frequencies and such, but I get the sense it will be a good learning tool. I was looking up local repeaters in the area to see if I can pick anything up, but I think it's going to take a bit more time to learn it all.

BrigandTwoFour

02-09-19, 16:38

Just some pic updates. I figured out how to program everything. I've got all the local repeaters in both 2m and 70cm band programmed. Not picking up all that much chatter, though.

https://everydaymarksman.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/tri-rad-1.jpg

https://everydaymarksman.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/tri-rad-2.jpg

Outlander Systems

02-09-19, 17:00

This is outstanding.

Just some pic updates. I figured out how to program everything. I've got all the local repeaters in both 2m and 70cm band programmed. Not picking up all that much chatter, though.

https://everydaymarksman.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/tri-rad-1.jpg

https://everydaymarksman.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/tri-rad-2.jpg

Mattei

06-12-19, 10:39

mtscout

06-12-19, 12:36

Yes, I am interested in any overview as to this radio.
Has it held up and functioned ok?
Would you purchase something else instead of the PRC 152 clone?

Thanks in advance.

RobertTheTexan

06-12-19, 13:32

Yes, I am interested in any overview as to this radio.
Has it held up and functioned ok?
Would you purchase something else instead of the PRC 152 clone?

Thanks in advance.

No, I wouldn’t. TRI PRC-152 is really well built, a solid radio with a metal body as opposed to the 148. I believe if you scroll up Outlander notes some of the deltas between the 148 and 152, the 152 does have some better functionality than the 148, but I’d have to dig though some posts to find that info. I sold my 148 and bought a PRC-152 for about the same price. I can post the eBay vendor I used. I believe me, docsherm, Euro and a couple more m4cers bought our radios from the same vendor.

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RobertTheTexan

06-12-19, 13:45

Hey guys, been following this post..

Is there any updates from you guys about the 152, also is there a real difference between the TRI and TCA 152?
I am looking to get one of them but unsure which one to go with. The TRI does 10w etc... but apparently the TCA is built better but doesnt do 10w.. any advice?

Personally, I’d stick with the TRI and the better xmit power. Our resident radio geek/HAM is Outlander tho.

And I was just saying to the fellas the other day that I really need to update this thread. Besides my radio change, I’ve had some kit changes as well.

If your interested here’s the link Outlander posted above for the PRC-152.

https://ebay.us/yt18Ii

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Mattei

06-12-19, 21:07

RobertTheTexan

06-12-19, 22:27

Yeah a couple days ago I read this entire thread and the other one... another site said the TCA is the newer version (but a basic look into it the TRI has more functions... so they on the good cush over there)

Also this is the link they posted before
https://shop.jkarmy.com/tri-152-aluminum-walkie-talkie-mbitr-radio-ips-ver-2-12-6v-ipx-7-od.html

Probably the same radio, but I am worried different vendors may play fu*k fu*k games as the pricing can vary by $100 ish depending..

That's a good buy. We went the eBay route because we got our radios in like 2.5-3 weeks with our guy. I checked and he's not selling on eBay. For whatever that's worth. Our radios are GTG though. But the JKArmy is where I bought my PRC-148.

Mattei

06-13-19, 02:48

Thanks Rob, thats always a plus to know the site is legit...

I will once I get mine post up about it, but will require some playing around with first.... Just hope JKarmy is a little quicker on the shipping than 3 weeks

I also read comments like its a glorified baufang etc.. and that its Chinese crap etc... and that its for kids who want to play airsoft and adults who want to pretend army... and its not a good radio, and I hope I can shed a little light on it not being the case.

Outlander Systems

06-14-19, 10:52

The disparaging comments about the 152 and, “Muh glorified Baofeng” are from the original plastic-bodied units from circa 2009.

Thanks Rob, thats always a plus to know the site is legit...

I will once I get mine post up about it, but will require some playing around with first.... Just hope JKarmy is a little quicker on the shipping than 3 weeks

I also read comments like its a glorified baufang etc.. and that its Chinese crap etc... and that its for kids who want to play airsoft and adults who want to pretend army... and its not a good radio, and I hope I can shed a little light on it not being the case.

pinzgauer

06-14-19, 16:16

man, sure wish they added DMR! :-) I want one of the 152's, but the MD-380 DMR radios are so good and cheap I can't justify more handhelds. (Though I've bought a couple of DMR mobiles lately)

Outlander Systems

06-14-19, 17:06

DMR is the king of activity for Digital voice for sureskis.

man, sure wish they added DMR! :-) I want one of the 152's, but the MD-380 DMR radios are so good and cheap I can't justify more handhelds. (Though I've bought a couple of DMR mobiles lately)

Mattei

06-14-19, 19:24

Yeah outlander thats what I was thinking because I also heard them say that the TCA is the newer model, and I know the new TRI came out last year, plus there is a bunch more technical data given on sites for it...

Mattei

06-21-19, 20:36

Outlander Systems

08-29-19, 19:28

Roll call.

If any of you guys have PRC-148s or 152s, this is for you.

I’ve been in talks with Tigertronics about potentially making a data cable for interfacing with a computer, via their SignalLink USB device. For clarification, this is NOT a programming cable, but a computer interface for programs like FLDigi, JS8Call, etc, for doing digital modes.

If so, I’ll make a new thread for that discussion.

jpmuscle

08-29-19, 20:32

Roll call.

If any of you guys have PRC-148s or 152s, this is for you.

I’ve been in talks with Tigertronics about potentially making a data cable for interfacing with a computer, via their SignalLink USB device. For clarification, this is NOT a programming, but a computer interface for programs like FLDigi, JS8Call, etc, for doing digital modes.

If so, I’ll make a new thread for that discussion.

Needs more programming capability

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Outlander Systems

09-18-19, 09:03

https://i.ibb.co/1b6PHDS/2-AD293-EE-FCDA-41-EE-9-ADA-82-C3-DCBB6-B40.jpg

https://youtu.be/zcx8FCHW8ec

RobertTheTexan

09-18-19, 09:08

https://i.ibb.co/1b6PHDS/2-AD293-EE-FCDA-41-EE-9-ADA-82-C3-DCBB6-B40.jpg

https://youtu.be/zcx8FCHW8ec

That’s badass! Did you have to mod the cable going into the HF? It looked kinda like you might have spliced in a diff connector. Well done dude!!

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Outlander Systems

09-18-19, 09:19

Affirmative. Yeah, one of the benefits of these radios is the near limitless supply of useful surplus accoutrements for them.

I did mod the cable. The adapter is designed to turn an MBITR battery into a mini BA-5590. I cut the cable, and added the corresponding DC barrel plug to be able to run both my Handheld and HF radios from the same batteries moving forward.

That’s badass! Did you have to mod the cable going into the HF? It looked kinda like you might have spliced in a diff connector. Well done dude!!

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RobertTheTexan

09-18-19, 09:21

So I got the new TRI 152 in today, and dam... this thing is legit, reminds me of when I did 2 or 4 man recce's.
Also now TRI released its 343 version which has the duel PTT (and single) function so I can connect the 343 to the 152... this is going to make me start playing airsoft or something idk, so much room for activities...

Thru are super solid radios no doubt. On our last FTX we did some drills using our comms on a night shoot w/ Nods, 2 man. “Shoot, move and communicate”. It was pretty awesome. Like I hadn’t don’t anything like that since I was sporting my woodland cammies.

I want to test out the range of the radio on high power just to see what it can do. Back in the beginning of this thread Euro and Outlander had some some testing and their feedback was super positive in terms of range and all. And of course Euro shot his 148 and it continued to work (Rx only) not to mention throwing it in a creek and all sorts of abuse and continue to Tx/Rx. I looked st the PRC/343 briefly, but it was determined that it was too gay. Did you see Outlanders vid using the “comsec” on the radio? He used the analog crypto setting on the radio. While we can’t load comsec, that can help secure our comms a lot better than talking in PT.

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RobertTheTexan

09-18-19, 09:26

Affirmative. Yeah, one of the benefits of these radios is the near limitless supply of useful surplus accouterments for them.

I did mod the cable. The adapter is designed to turn an MBITR battery into a mini BA-5590. I cut the cable, and added the corresponding DC barrel plug to be able to run both my Handheld and HF radios from the same batteries moving forward.

Very slick! Did you happen to get any capacity gains with the mbitr battery?
Capacity in my “non-commo daddy” mind meaning more charging cycles/capability?

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Outlander Systems

09-18-19, 09:59

For sure. The 148 batteries are monsters at 4.8 Ah. The internal battery of this particular HF radio is 3.8; so the MBITR battery effectively adds an additional 10 hours of use-time for the X5105, on top of its internal battery.

Very slick! Did you happen to get any capacity gains with the mbitr battery?
Capacity in my “non-commo daddy” mind meaning more charging cycles/capability?

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Outlander Systems

09-23-19, 13:12

Got this up and running at lunch.

https://i.ibb.co/p3kMB5L/E5195-D52-3-D8-C-48-B1-A2-EE-171413-B318-E5.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/k4RLYph/333-AADDF-C819-44-E5-B242-3-E0-B64-B65087.jpg

pinzgauer

09-23-19, 14:42

So that's very interesting, I have one of those boxes too, though I've mainly just used it with handsets.

Now you just need a VIC-1 in between the two! (Vehicular intercom). Have one in my pinzgauer, but wish I had picked a 2nd one up for the shack PRCs.

I sure wish they would cut over to the DMR chips in the Taiwanese 148 and 152s. Id buy one for sure.

I'm now pretty hard switched over to DMR for ham stuff, though still use FM gmrs on the property. Have multiple tyt 380 handhelds, plus tyt-9600 and cs-800 mobiles in the shack, truck, and a fm tyt 8600 on the tractor.

Outlander Systems

09-23-19, 15:02

So far, after adjusting levels, it transmits great. I need to rig up another HT and check the receive/decode for me to give it a seal-of-approval.

A DMR dual-band version would be pretty legit. A 2m SSB version would really tickle my fancy.

So that's very interesting, I have one of those boxes too, though I've mainly just used it with handsets.

Now you just need a VIC-1 in between the two! (Vehicular intercom). Have one in my pinzgauer, but wish I had picked a 2nd one up for the shack PRCs.

I sure wish they would cut over to the DMR chips in the Taiwanese 148 and 152s. Id buy one for sure.

I'm now pretty hard switched over to DMR for ham stuff, though still use FM gmrs on the property. Have multiple tyt 380 handhelds, plus tyt-9600 and cs-800 mobiles in the shack, truck, and a fm tyt 8600 on the tractor.

Outlander Systems

09-23-19, 17:29

So, after adjusting levels, I was able to get the device to transmit/receive various digital modes using FLDigi.

https://i.ibb.co/fkQp49j/C5-DE22-ED-C805-4331-9405-0-FA7-EC94-AC1-A.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/jwKT8G8/83-FF8-BA2-840-A-482-B-BCE3-078-ACA7-B775-B.jpg

Only negative I’ve encountered so far is getting the levels set up and the PTT to transmit.

https://youtu.be/ofdo7o2sqyU

https://i.ibb.co/Htfdrrx/3-F0-FC3-CE-BA2-A-4550-9-FD9-48-F2-E1-E83-B55.png

Outlander Systems

09-25-19, 09:07

Digital mode update. Using the adapter/interface shown below corrected all issues with I/O signal levels. Levels are normalized compared to the relatively low output audio being sent directly to the radio via jumper. By running the CW Adapter Unit to the radio via jumper, and feeding the GD Box via the Audio line out, the input/output levels are in-line with what should be used for digital modes. I'd have no problem confidently using the below configuration, effectively, for NBEMS.

https://i.ibb.co/5hxHrBw/4-BFAAEEE-9-C3-E-4-FAE-B143-2164-BA8444-B4.jpg

jake-cutter

09-25-19, 20:15

Seems there are a ton of sellers on ebay with prices from $275-350. Is the one below from one of the better sellers or does anyone have one seller they recommend?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIMITED-EDITION-ALUMINUM-SHELL10W-TRI-AN-PRC152A-MBITR-RADIO-REAL152-BATTERY/264473868278?hash=item3d93def7f6:g:zGoAAOSwXwFcC~OJ

cdb

09-25-19, 20:51

jpmuscle

09-25-19, 21:29

I'm curious too about legit places to get these now. All those ebay sellers are in china which seems sketchy.

They’re legit. Shiqinxi_0 in particular.

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Outlander Systems

09-25-19, 21:35

There’s one for sale in the M4C EE.

Seems there are a ton of sellers on ebay with prices from $275-350. Is the one below from one of the better sellers or does anyone have one seller they recommend?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIMITED-EDITION-ALUMINUM-SHELL10W-TRI-AN-PRC152A-MBITR-RADIO-REAL152-BATTERY/264473868278?hash=item3d93def7f6:g:zGoAAOSwXwFcC~OJ

Outlander Systems

09-26-19, 08:26

https://i.ibb.co/VgQ3CXz/C444-A045-964-B-47-EC-870-F-BD5-A2337864-C.jpg

noonesshowmonkey

09-26-19, 14:48

cheat sheet pic

Your comms threads are always epic. Much appreciated mini-manual here.

jpmuscle

09-26-19, 14:50

Your comms threads are always epic. Much appreciated mini-manual here.

Autism has the propensity to unlock hidden super powers sometimes.

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Outlander Systems

09-26-19, 17:21

Thanks duder.

Your comms threads are always epic. Much appreciated mini-manual here.

underwater

10-03-19, 20:18

Does anyone know if you can use a Harris battery or MBITR battery with the TRI PRC152 10w version? I've looked around on the various forums but haven't found an answer. I have picked up a couple of these a while back and they work great. Somewhat concerned about the battery longevity and have been considering milspec batteries. I know the TRI mbitr copy uses an actual mbitr battery but don't know about these. Thanks for all the info posted in this thread. Studying for license like a lot of others here. Special thanks to Outlander for your efforts here.

cdb

10-03-19, 21:19

They’re legit. Shiqinxi_0 in particular.

You have a radio from the shiqinxi_0 guy? Trying to figure out why his TRI 152A radios don't do AM receive while the other TRI 152As do. Seems like they should be the same thing.

Outlander Systems

10-04-19, 07:27

Thanks, duder!

Yes, the current versions of the 152 (metal housing) are compatible with all the issued Harris batteries.

Does anyone know if you can use a Harris battery or MBITR battery with the TRI PRC152 10w version? I've looked around on the various forums but haven't found an answer. I have picked up a couple of these a while back and they work great. Somewhat concerned about the battery longevity and have been considering milspec batteries. I know the TRI mbitr copy uses an actual mbitr battery but don't know about these. Thanks for all the info posted in this thread. Studying for license like a lot of others here. Special thanks to Outlander for your efforts here.

Outlander Systems

10-04-19, 07:29

This is the second time I’ve heard this recently.

A friend of mine picked one up from Shinq in the last month, and we confirmed Air Band receive a couple of days ago.

You have a radio from the shiqinxi_0 guy? Trying to figure out why his TRI 152A radios don't do AM receive while the other TRI 152As do. Seems like they should be the same thing.

cdb

10-04-19, 08:33

This is the second time I’ve heard this recently.

A friend of mine picked one up from Shinq in the last month, and we confirmed Air Band receive a couple of days ago.

Pretty weird, I messaged and asked why his didn't have it listed but other sellers did. He said his didn't do AM receive and he knew none of the others did either because they all get their raidios from him. Maybe something lost in translation. Glad to hear that they do anyways.

Outlander Systems

10-04-19, 08:35

He may be covering his own ass, as it’s illegal in China to have those freq’s available for receive on radios. Tune to your nearest Approach/Departure Frequency, typically 121.0000, and let the radio marinate until you hear activity to confirm.

Pretty weird, I messaged and asked why his didn't have it listed but other sellers did. He said his didn't do AM receive and he knew none of the others did either because they all get their raidios from him. Maybe something lost in translation. Glad to hear that they do anyways.

elf

10-27-19, 00:27

Whew, finally caught up with reading this whole thread, thank you all for the valuable info about these radios, love my vx7 but I think I might pick one of these up and check it out.
So I'm looking to grab one from ebay but it's a little confusing with all the various models on there but if I followed this thread correctly, the one that includes HF does not exist, so this is the correct one to grab right? (TRI 10w 152 with metal body) https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIMITED-EDITION-ALUMINUM-SHELL10W-TRI-AN-PRC-152-MBITR-RADIO-REAL152-BATTERY/264391481611?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D60380%26meid%3D78f7369137f6474992718933612677f2%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D223643203684%26itm%3D264391481611%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219

RobertTheTexan

10-27-19, 02:01

RobertTheTexan

10-27-19, 02:02

elf

10-27-19, 02:07

Yes, this is who I bought my 152 from.

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Copy that, thank you sir.

RobertTheTexan

10-27-19, 23:21

I ran across this the other day and picked one up. I connected to an 8w Baofeng I had and the the xmit results of the 8w radio were very impressive so I picked one up for my 152. Hopefully I can do little testing this week and compare capability versus the antenna currently on my radio. I’ll post up updates when I do. I like this antenna because it’s super flexible and I think it will hold up well routed through the antenna channels on my chest rig harness. Here’s the link. I’m not 100% sure what it brings to the table but I’m pretty optimistic. As soon as I have some results I’ll post results.

https://signalstuff.com/antennas/

ReverseEngineerNT

11-20-19, 08:07

Coming in way late to the TRI PRC-148 party, but wanted to register in case I could contribute any info as I go along. I gained a lot from this thread, thanks to all who posted!

contax_shooter

11-20-19, 09:35

Outlander Systems

11-20-19, 20:25

Just got a couple of new (2019 Vintage) TCA PRC-148 MBITR Clones. These were released this month.

https://i.ibb.co/HPXr13b/0-A9-BF059-A9-EC-40-E5-BDFC-6847297319-D9.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/PFmTVCg/CFAFB231-8116-4-FEC-A267-368-EC338-E0-E0.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/QH6xpTY/A3949456-9-BDE-45-AF-92-A8-6-C1-C11380731.jpg

Haven't had a chance to really suss it out yet; however a couple of standouts upon initial assessment:

Better Machining
Better Anodizing
Louder internal speaker
Potentiometer is more crisp
Screen more evenly illuminated
Comes with an 18650 Adapter Battery Pack
Comes in a hard-shell, Pelican-style case
Battery pack has a USB adapter to charge phones/devices from the radio’s battery
8 Crypto Settings
Multiple repeater settings
5 power output settings (0.1W - 8W)

https://i.ibb.co/28tsg32/6-D811-C1-E-6-A8-C-402-E-9-B5-C-AD0-A2-B1-DFBD7.jpg

Haven't had the opportunity to delve too deep into the menus, yet. The manual is hot garbage so I'm going to have to figure things out on my own.

It’s way more streamlined than the TRI 148’s FPP.

You have two menu modes.

One to set global parameters like Wideband/Narrowband/key-functions, etc.

You have a secondary mode that only adjusts channel-specific settings like Frequency/CTCSS, etc.

So for example, on the TRI, all settings are in one menu, and it has to be changed per that menu to be written to a channel. The TCA’s menu system allows you to set all global settings separately from channel-specific settings.

https://i.ibb.co/HrQ3vxb/D1404-B1-F-D3-FE-42-A4-BB48-C7-F82241-D315.jpg

The TCA also has 8 zones or banks to which you can assign 16 channels per bank. The channel function on the TCA is effectively identical to the JEM/MBITR, in terms of channel management.

https://i.ibb.co/WfPFhsL/278905-CB-0-BBF-4665-9709-4-D4-B9-C8-D2-C96.jpg

Other odds/ends so far:

When you key up, all the data/parameters related to that channel are displayed, including power level, TX Freq/RX Freq, etc.

It has VOX, so if you end up running this with the GD interface you don’t have to manually key up to TX.

There’s about 4 or 5 different repeater settings as well as a RELAY function, none of which I’ve had the chance to monkey with yet.

ReverseEngineerNT

11-30-19, 09:12

Thank you for the review, Outlander, but you have caused me to be more discouraged. :sad:
For better than a month now I have been working with a China seller on getting TRI AN/PRC-148, and Customs (pretty sure there) has rejected shipping twice. So, with more money thrown at the customs problem I "may" get one in the next two weeks.
With all the attention on the 152's, I was feeling way behind all the cool kids on the block already, but...I really like the black brick.

Now, you show us an improved 148 that I want even more! :) It's my own fault, but with all the effort it is taking to get one of these OUT of China, I might have been better off putting that effort into obtaining a TCA version.

ReverseEngineerNT

12-15-19, 19:53

TRI AN/PRC-148 UV has arrived, third time through customs was the charm.
I was disappointed that "Thales" logo wasn't hiding under the TRI sticker, but it seems like some of them do and some don't.
Amateur License-General class obtained.
Thales Speaker Mic and earpiece.
MCA PRC U94 PTT and Invisio earpiece.
H350 phone set just in case.

I can't yet add anything else about it that hasn't been covered here. It's a solid unit and I'm looking forward to working with it.

Gary104

12-15-19, 23:22

Outlander, where did you source the TCA 148 radios??

ReverseEngineerNT

01-13-20, 07:57

Been working with the TRI AN/PRC-148 for about a month now. Local HAM guys on the repeater think I paid way too much for a HT, but.

Obtained two Thales Li-Ion 4.8 batteries, Both perform as per Thales spec. I run monitor in the car all week, occasional transmit, 12-14 hours and they go flat.

I really like the option of the A123 battery case. They go a couple hours less than the Li-Ions. Same batts I have on hand for the SureFire weapon lights. Downside is it adds 3/4 inch to the length, and radio holsters no longer fit.

Programmed in 12 different local repeater frequencies, with 8 different PL-CTS, and three different offsets. All store and save in channel memory great. Once saved, there is no way to look at WHAT I saved for each channel, though. TCA sounds better in that area since it shows those parameters on key up.

I nearly have the side connector pin out deciphered. I’ll figure that out and put it to use.

KE8NOR

RobertTheTexan

01-13-20, 09:42

ReverseEngineerNT

01-13-20, 13:12

Seller was very good communicating with me, so I trusted what they told me. Twice, they would ship with DHL as normal. Customs was now recently rejecting the package, and sending it back to the seller. Part of it was because they declared it contained a loose battery.

Third time through, the seller threw extra money at customs, and it made it here. I partly attributed it to the unsettled trade agreements with them and customs taking advantage of it.

Glad you and others are getting them easy. I was chalking it up to my bad luck and a sign I wasn’t meant to have one.

Outlander Systems

01-13-20, 14:38

There was a recent FCC policy enacted around 30SEP last year that may have started causing issues for imports on these.

It took over two months for my recent 148 to get here.

Seller was very good communicating with me, so I trusted what they told me. Twice, they would ship with DHL as normal. Customs was now recently rejecting the package, and sending it back to the seller. Part of it was because they declared it contained a loose battery.

Third time through, the seller threw extra money at customs, and it made it here. I partly attributed it to the unsettled trade agreements with them and customs taking advantage of it.

Glad you and others are getting them easy. I was chalking it up to my bad luck and a sign I wasn’t meant to have one.

Bitcoin

01-24-20, 10:45

Hi Guys, Is the TRI-152 H version with the 10 meter band still available somewhere? And is it AM and/or FM and can it do the CB band as well?
Any reviews on it? I have a hard time to find the right 152 radio.

Best regards,

Victor
The Netherlands

Sparky5019

01-26-20, 09:18

Just got a couple of new (2019 Vintage) TCA PRC-148 MBITR Clones. These were released this month.

Haven't had a chance to really suss it out yet; however a couple of standouts upon initial assessment:

Better Machining
Better Anodizing
Louder internal speaker
Potentiometer is more crisp
Screen more evenly illuminated
Comes with an 18650 Adapter Battery Pack
Comes in a hard-shell, Pelican-style case
Battery pack has a USB adapter to charge phones/devices from the radio’s battery
8 Crypto Settings
Multiple repeater settings
5 power output settings (0.1W - 8W)

aven't had the opportunity to delve too deep into the menus, yet. The manual is hot garbage so I'm going to have to figure things out on my own.

It’s way more streamlined than the TRI 148’s FPP.

You have two menu modes.

One to set global parameters like Wideband/Narrowband/key-functions, etc.

You have a secondary mode that only adjusts channel-specific settings like Frequency/CTCSS, etc.

So for example, on the TRI, all settings are in one menu, and it has to be changed per that menu to be written to a channel. The TCA’s menu system allows you to set all global settings separately from channel-specific settings.

The TCA also has 8 zones or banks to which you can assign 16 channels per bank. The channel function on the TCA is effectively identical to the JEM/MBITR, in terms of channel management.

Other odds/ends so far:

When you key up, all the data/parameters related to that channel are displayed, including power level, TX Freq/RX Freq, etc.

It has VOX, so if you end up running this with the GD interface you don’t have to manually key up to TX.

There’s about 4 or 5 different repeater settings as well as a RELAY function, none of which I’ve had the chance to monkey with yet.

Sounds like on the surface these are better quality than the TRI.

Which of these TCAs has the crypto?

Is crypto worth the upgrade?

What is your source for these?

And, of course, are they making a 10-pin or only the 6-pin version?

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Bitcoin

01-28-20, 04:44

Sounds like on the surface these are better quality than the TRI.

Which of these TCAs has the crypto?

Is crypto worth the upgrade?

Digital crypto ?

Kick> any clue were to vind a used or new AN/PRC-152 (U/V/H)?

Sparky5019

02-01-20, 06:32

Kick> any clue were to vind a used or new AN/PRC-152 (U/V/H)?

I guess my question was ANY crypto. It’s of limited use IMO. If CW2 ever happened it would be useless to us given our .gov/.mil has the best signal intel in the world. Crack that this crypto would be child’s play to them. Lol.

What are these variations y’all speak of? U/V/H?

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just a scout

02-01-20, 09:37

I guess my question was ANY crypto. It’s of limited use IMO. If CW2 ever happened it would be useless to us given our .gov/.mil has the best signal intel in the world. Crack that this crypto would be child’s play to them. Lol.

What are these variations y’all speak of? U/V/H?

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Crypto would help at the tactical level. The time lag to crack it is juice worth the squeeze. There isn’t a magic machine every cop or troop has that lets them listen in to encrypted transmissions. It takes time and limited resources.

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Sparky5019

02-01-20, 09:38

Crypto would help at the tactical level. The time lag to crack it is juice worth the squeeze. There isn’t a magic machine every cop or troop has that lets them listen in to encrypted transmissions. It takes time and limited resources.

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Agreed. I get that. I mean it’s likely more of an academic question anyway.

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Bitcoin

02-01-20, 16:02

I guess my question was ANY crypto. It’s of limited use IMO. If CW2 ever happened it would be useless to us given our .gov/.mil has the best signal intel in the world. Crack that this crypto would be child’s play to them. Lol.

What are these variations y’all speak of? U/V/H?

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U for UHF V for VHF and H for HF (25-30mhz)
Like this: https://www.yoycart.com/Product/43959571417/
Only I do not know this seller is Legit?

Sparky5019

02-01-20, 16:05

U for UHF V for VHF and H for HF (25-30mhz)
Like this: https://www.yoycart.com/Product/43959571417/
Only I do not know this seller is Legit?

That’s interesting. So the versions are set to those frequency ranges only?

To me that give the TRI an edge over the TCA; the ability to use UHF and VHF in one unit.

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Bitcoin

02-01-20, 16:28

Yes one radio can do all 3 bands. However for what I understand they are only made for a short time only and extremely rare. Not even one video can be found of this TRI 152 radio
I do not have much info that why I ask if anyone can tell more about them. I do even know if it can do AM or FM at 10 meters, and is it compatible on CB?

TCA and TRI can do both UHF and VHF

jpmuscle

02-01-20, 16:35

Big shout out to the homo fudd ham boomers who ruined importation and sales of said multi band 10w radios.

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SouthernPhantom

02-01-20, 17:39

What kind of crypto are we talking here? Voice inversion scrambling or an actual AES or DES algorithm?