View Full Version : The Anti Gun Left is being put on a list.
Averageman
12-10-16, 10:43
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20161209/new-watchlist-sends-outspoken-academics-into-a-tailspin
A new “watchlist” is ruffling feathers in the academic community, with critics calling it “Orwellian,” “grotesque,” “an assault on academic freedom,” and even “the right’s new McCarythyism.”
But watchlists and background checks are not so popular with Obama and his fans in other contexts.
As described on its website, “This watchlist is an aggregated list of pre-existing news stories that were published by a variety of news organizations.” Its editors will “accept tips for new additions on our website,” but will “only publish profiles on incidents that have already been reported by a credible source.” They also state that they “will continue to fight for free speech and the right for professors to say whatever they wish” but that they believe “students, parents, and alumni deserve to know the specific incidents and names of professors that advance a radical agenda in lecture halls.”
The site is searchable by professor name and employing institution. It is said currently to contain about 200 entries and includes stock photographs of the listed academics, summaries of their purportedly “radical” statements, and links to the underlying sources. The website does not suggest how browsers should use its information, nor advocate for any specific action against the listed individuals.
Oh how they hate their own tactics being used against them!
Shouldn't they be proud to own their handiwork? I'd think they would appreciate a handy reference list of their fellow leftists! :)
Averageman
12-10-16, 12:12
Shouldn't they be proud to own their handiwork? I'd think they would appreciate a handy reference list of their fellow leftists! :)
The times; they are certainly changing now aren't they?
Oh it's only okay if they do it?
Oh it's only okay if they do it?
Exactly. Hypocrites.
Averageman
12-10-16, 14:48
It's about time.
From the article
Erik Loomis, a history professor at the University of Rhode Island, is singled out for a series of anti-NRA tweets in which he blamed NRA for the Sandy Hook Elementary School tragedy. “I want Wayne LaPierre’s head on a stick,” he wrote. He also claimed “the National Rifle Association has murdered some more children” and asked if NRA membership could count as “dues contributing to a terrorist organization?”
As a parent who saved every nickle of the child support my Son received and put it in a college fund so that he could have a better life, you can bet your a++ I don't this guy "teaching" anyone's kids.
This guy has one saving grace, he may not have as many students next semester, and he may be on a "List", but for the most part Conservatives don't have the time to stand in front of his house, or the inclination to threaten his family. It's quite a bit different than the way the left is treating the LEO's who are working the pipeline protests.
Exactly. Hypocrites.
So if you're against lists the left put out, you should be against this list.
Or if you agree with this list, you should also be okay with the leftist lists.
I am not okay with any lists.
We all need to take two steps back and mind our own collective business.
So if you're against lists the left put out, you should be against this list.
Or if you agree with this list, you should also be okay with the leftist lists.
Well the left is already putting out lists, and my agreement or disagreement never stopped them and never will stop them. Perhaps this list will help them understand.
Also looking at examples of people calling for the death of other people simply because they represent the NRA, well maybe they should be on some kind of list.
Averageman
12-10-16, 16:38
I am not okay with any lists.
We all need to take two steps back and mind our own collective business.
But then not be surprised when they get their collective comeuppance?
Here's my thing about this, if you have the gall to say it in a classroom while being paid by the public treasury, then yeah; it needs to be public record.
I am not okay with any lists.
I'm ok with a list of guys like this.
Erik Loomis, a history professor at the University of Rhode Island, is singled out for a series of anti-NRA tweets in which he blamed NRA for the Sandy Hook Elementary School tragedy. “I want Wayne LaPierre’s head on a stick,” he wrote. He also claimed “the National Rifle Association has murdered some more children” and asked if NRA membership could count as “dues contributing to a terrorist organization?”
The Left lives and dies by Dirty Pool.
I just wish people would not try to make every disagreement a conspiracy or a travesty.
I think people should teach the cold, hard facts. We have no angels in our human history. A lot of people got a lot of stuff right, but everyone has some shit on their boots.
MLK wasn't like Jesus. He had a bunch of bastard kids and took Soviet money.
Reagan more or less dodged WWII.
And The Jeffersons most likely really were related to Thomas Jefferson.
Save the hippie drum circle for book club and start telling it all. Good, bad, and ugly.
That's what I think. We demand the Julios know American history and yet the average 17 year old is blithely ignorant to the Teapot Dome Scandal, Franklin Pierce's impeachment, or how a good bit of America and Canada were under French Imperial rule.
I'm ok with a list of guys like this.
Nixon listing a lot of mouthy A-holes is kind of a go nowhere hobby
Averageman
12-10-16, 16:49
Your opinion in the classroom effects every individual within that classroom.
Facts are facts, opinions are just that, opinions. That the two be mixed adds to it a bit of grey area around the subject, which in certain contexts adds to critical thinking and that is fine.
When that grey turns to gold we have an issue..
I earned my degree while serving in the Military, not on the GI bill. That some of my Professors were anti American was not a secret, that many of them hated the Military was obvious, that they took the money to "educate me" was a given.
That the bias they were so willing to display was abhorrent to everyone else? Well, not so much.
Your opinion in the classroom effects every individual within that classroom.
Facts are facts, opinions are just that, opinions. That the two be mixed adds to it a bit of grey area around the subject, which in certain contexts adds to critical thinking and that is fine.
When that grey turns to gold we have an issue..
I earned my degree while serving in the Military, not on the GI bill. That some of my Professors were anti American was not a secret, that many of them hated the Military was obvious, that they took the money to "educate me" was a given.
That the bias they were so willing to display was abhorrent to everyone else? Well, not so much.
There's a point you have. I knew some professors who you could tell didnt have a life outside college.
They also thought the students worked for them. Not vice versa. I remember telling one prof in my salad days that I didnt pay his salary to spew white guilt for an hour.
He then talked about the "brainwashing" and "self loathing". I just said I dont need some blonde headed, blue eyed white boy telling me how to "feel".
This was like philosophy. One of them BS courses totally unrelated to your major that you cannot bypass.
I wish there was like a way to peer out professors based on whether they actually taught or just sperged out for an hour.
Nixon listing a lot of mouthy A-holes is kind of a go nowhere hobby
The difference is Nixon never told you who was on his list. The SPLC makes the list available to anyone. If we had a similar list of college professors like Ward Churchill, Bill Ayers, etc. then maybe people "might" think about what they advocate to the public and people can make an informed decision about if they want to support the Universities that pay the salaries of these individuals.
Certainly if guys like Tom Metzger were becoming college professors and advocating their views you can bet there would be a list...and a huge public outcry. Doesn't seem like a list of people who say things like "I support Obama and voted for Hillary", that would basically just be the entire faculty directory of every school.
But calling for the deaths of people you don't agree with, well yeah, I'd like a list. I like to avoid the "crazies" whenever possible.
Nobody and I mean nobody hates the SPLC more than me. They are mostly closet pedophiles and money hungry chickenhawks.
I've had some little dealings with them over the years and trust you me....
They hate blacks more than the KKK
Averageman
12-10-16, 17:19
I had a really weird education.
I couldn't for the life of me read until the third grade. For whatever reason a switch got flipped in third grade and I was reading at a seventh grade level. My Dad who was a Senior NCO and a voracious reader decided to "educate" me. I ate that sh*t up, I became a voracious reader. I had read everything worth reading in our public library by the age of twelve.
Not to neglect the other side, I labored like a slave for my Dad. Need someone to go down the inside of a chimney to remove brick and mortar, there I was. Need someone to dig footings for a house there I was. Give me a half hour for lunch, I spent it in a book.
The difference between knowledge and facts comes at the end of a shovel and I believe that soul deep.
The end result was that when I went to college at 17, I was pretty bored by what was presented; I had pretty much already read and studied this and that.
It's pretty god awful hard to tell a kid who had worked for the forest service that fire breaks didn't work when he had cut them himself.
At 36 and having 18 years of military service I wasn't likely to eat that slice of sh+t pie.
That's the difference between a 3.88 GPA and a 4.0.
I'm not a fan boy of these guys not being held accountable.
Like I say. I wish they could do away with tenure and students could peer out professors
Like I say. I wish they could do away with tenure and students could peer out professors
It's even worse, educators and even programs are instituted by force. Hostage taking is now referred to as "campus takeover" and hostage takers are viewed as freedom fighters.
Our university system was hijacked before some of you were even born.
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2009/04/campus-takeover-symbolized-era-change
It's even worse, educators and even programs are instituted by force. Hostage taking is now referred to as "campus takeover" and hostage takers are viewed as freedom fighters.
Our university system was hijacked before some of you were even born.
http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2009/04/campus-takeover-symbolized-era-change
Yeah....some people should've gotten Winchester 70'd over that
LOL. Read the story this AM. I am not a fan of lists, especially the secret kind. I am not sure that comparing an internet list compiled by citizens using publicly available info is the same as the government lists.
Two wrongs generally don't make a right, but sometimes a taste of someone's own medicine opens their eyes much faster than simple dialogue.
Gramsci's "Long March Through The Institutions" personified.
A quick perusal failed to turn up Moe, Curly, or Larry, much to my surprise.
Again the right typically gets its collective @sses kicked by these idiots because they are too morally pure to best them at their own games.
All the while, being laughed at, as morons, by the enemy.
Make the list and check it twice.
I compare the left to socialist or communist groups
they want to destroy anything they do not agree with and absolute power is there goal
IMHO the only way to fight them is take the gloves off and fight them with their own methods
as HKGuns said above the right get kicked for being nice and playing by the rules the rules set by the left are used as control and they know they do not need to follow themselves
BoringGuy45
12-11-16, 13:12
I compare the left to socialist or communist groups
they want to destroy anything they do not agree with and absolute power is there goal
They are one in the same. They are pushing the same exact goals; absolutely, positively 100% the same as Marxism-Leninism: They want a government that completely controls everything, and nobody is allowed to think differently from what the government tells them to think. The only difference is that they don't (yet) march under a red flag with a gold sickle and hammer, or have an organized armed wing.
Right now, the movement is made up mostly of kids whose parents actually gave in when they held their breath, and later enrolled them in activities where everybody got a trophy. They think shouting and belittling is enough to get people to give them what they want. Sooner or later, they're going to realize that you can't insult determined people out of defending their rights, and they'll either give up and become productive members of society, or they'll take the next step and start kidnapping, bombing, and assassinating in order to get what they want.
The Left lives and dies by Dirty Pool.
I just wish people would not try to make every disagreement a conspiracy or a travesty.
I think people should teach the cold, hard facts. We have no angels in our human history. A lot of people got a lot of stuff right, but everyone has some shit on their boots.
MLK wasn't like Jesus. He had a bunch of bastard kids and took Soviet money.
Reagan more or less dodged WWII.
And The Jeffersons most likely really were related to Thomas Jefferson.
Save the hippie drum circle for book club and start telling it all. Good, bad, and ugly.
That's what I think. We demand the Julios know American history and yet the average 17 year old is blithely ignorant to the Teapot Dome Scandal, Franklin Pierce's impeachment, or how a good bit of America and Canada were under French Imperial rule.
Might want to fact check that one dude!
The difference is that the NRA is not a govt. organization, while the left would and does gladly promote govt. made and kept lists.
yeah they are one in the same I guess meaning compare them how they act and we have history Hitler Mussolini etc.. to draw from and what they have done :)
They are one in the same. They are pushing the same exact goals; absolutely, positively 100% the same as Marxism-Leninism: They want a government that completely controls everything, and nobody is allowed to think differently from what the government tells them to think. The only difference is that they don't (yet) march under a red flag with a gold sickle and hammer, or have an organized armed wing.
Right now, the movement is made up mostly of kids whose parents actually gave in when they held their breath, and later enrolled them in activities where everybody got a trophy. They think shouting and belittling is enough to get people to give them what they want. Sooner or later, they're going to realize that you can't insult determined people out of defending their rights, and they'll either give up and become productive members of society, or they'll take the next step and start kidnapping, bombing, and assassinating in order to get what they want.
Might want to fact check that one dude!
Okay it was Andrew Johnson, but Pierce should've gotten impeached
I am not okay with any lists.
We all need to take two steps back and mind our own collective business.
Constitutional rights are the collective business of the American people. If the Left doesn't respect law abiding people's privacy (e.g. names and addresses of CCW permit holders) then we have ZERO obligation to do the same.
Being nice with the Left is how we got to where we are today.
Hegelian dialectic and constantly making concessions while they gain ground.
No more.
Averageman
12-12-16, 06:53
I think a list isn't a bad idea.
Perhaps starting at the small town level and a letter to the editor concerning some of the deeds that liberals get away with in public schools.
There is more than one way to deal with this and if all politics is local, it might be time for parents who observe this stuff to write a letter, make a list, attend a local meeting and be a good parent by calling this stuff out.
titsonritz
12-12-16, 11:46
James Pierce, an adjunct professor at Southern State Community College, is cited for a Facebook post in which he wrote, “Look, there’s only one solution. A bunch of us anti-gun types are going to have to arm ourselves, storm the NRA headquarters in Fairfax, VA, and make sure there are no survivors.”
Guns are bad and kill people, it must stop, so let's get some guns and kill people. ****ing wacko.
Averageman
12-12-16, 12:22
It's that kind of thinking that has a naïve 17 year old High School girl sitting directly in front of a 17 year old thug wearing an ankle monitor in the same classroom and less than six inches of air separating the two of them.
We've become so politically correct that those who are given the power to Educate can justify in their own minds any sort of reasoning. There is no end to the logic they will twist in order to achieve the results they desire.
I'm sure that storming the NRA Headquarters and doing some mass murder would to guys like the "Professor" be totally morale and justified.
FWIW I been to the NRA museum (everyone should go) and the main staff were mostly black and asian.
I'm sure killing those people would do wonders for that white guilt.
Do I agree with gestapo/NKVD lists? no.
Do I think we should avoid giving business/respect to stupid people?
Yes
So if you're against lists the left put out, you should be against this list.
Or if you agree with this list, you should also be okay with the leftist lists.
In order to agree with you, I'd also have to be OK with them screwing us over with no repercussions. I'm NOT OK with that. Do you have a viable alternative to offer? :confused:
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