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The Dumb Gun Collector
12-29-16, 17:14
I would have never believed it but it looks like Holt is coming out with another double action revolver . Count me in!!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/12/daniel-zimmerman/new-colt-cobra-38-revolver/amp/?client=safari
Mr. Greene
12-29-16, 18:17
This is interesting. I guess kimber lit a fire for more snubbies. I ant to see some testing on this and specs
LowSpeed_HighDrag
12-29-16, 18:17
Just for the nostalgia, I'd buy one.
RAM Engineer
12-29-16, 19:58
Wonder how much California's laws and lists are driving this.
jmoore
12-29-16, 20:03
Just for the nostalgia, I'd buy one.

Especially if there is no Hillary hole/internal lock:)

john
The Dumb Gun Collector
12-29-16, 20:57
I was considering the Kimber, but I will definitely pick up one of these.
williejc
12-30-16, 00:10
I'll be shocked if the new offering has the old Colt action which was labor intensive to fit and not particularly robust.
Pilot1
12-30-16, 10:03
I'll be shocked if the new offering has the old Colt action which was labor intensive to fit and not particularly robust.

Reliable reports on the Colt Forum are that it will use a newer action.
RAM Engineer
12-30-16, 15:01
Reliable reports on the Colt Forum are that it will use the newer "V spring" action like the Trooper, Anaconda, King Cobra used.

Mk III or Mk V Troopers?
jh9
12-30-16, 17:47
Mk III or Mk V Troopers?

The Mk3 and Mk5 revolvers used coil mainsprings.

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufacturers/Colt-33188/Revolvers-35751/TrooperMKVVFrame-36660.htm

The SF-VI, which is getting a lot of traction in the rumor mill as the basis for the new Cobra, used a shortened (IIRC) V-spring for the hammer and a torsion spring for the trigger. IIRC the DS-II did this as well.

edit: to be clear, none of the mk3/mk5 troopers, King Cobras or Anacondas used a V-spring action.

Watching the internet go crazy trying to shit on this thing while getting almost literally every detail wrong is sadly amusing...
JulyAZ
12-30-16, 17:53
Will it be out by Christmas? Errr I mean tax time?

Thank you Colt. Apparently,
Dreams do come true.

Next my Diamondback please.
Sam
12-31-16, 12:41
Next my Diamondback please.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/20161231_131413.jpg
Pilot1
12-31-16, 14:36
Next my Diamondback please.

A four inch, in .22LR please. I have a .38 Spl Diamondback that I bought many years ago, instead of a .22 because the .22 was more expensive. Regretted ever since, although I do reload for .38, but it's not the same.
SeriousStudent
12-31-16, 16:12
A four inch, in .22LR please. I have a .38 Spl Diamondback that I bought many years ago, instead of a .22 because the .22 was more expensive. Regretted ever since, although I do reload for .38, but it's not the same.

That would be cool. Smith and Wesson sells a lot of 617's, and that would be a good market for Colt to go after.

I'd sure buy one.
utahjeepr
12-31-16, 16:29
So is it alloy frame like the old cobra detectives or nickle plated steel?
SeriousStudent
12-31-16, 16:36
Steel, about 30 ounces of it. :(
The Dumb Gun Collector
12-31-16, 23:00
I thought the old detective special weighed around 21 oz? I could be wrong. I think the 2.5 inch barrel Python was around 33 oz but that was a lot bigger. The K6s is about 23oz.
jh9
01-01-17, 05:15
I thought the old detective special weighed around 21 oz?

You are correct. The 30ounce figure is mathematically impossible without filling it with tungsten shot...
Jewell
01-01-17, 06:24
Nice. Hopefully a new Python isn't far behind.
C4IGrant
01-01-17, 07:29
I got to handle this recently. Super excited to see Colt back in the revolver business.

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Pilot1
01-01-17, 07:53
I got to handle this recently. Super excited to see Colt back in the revolver business.

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What did you think of the fit, finish, and quality?
C4IGrant
01-01-17, 08:05
What did you think of the fit, finish, and quality?

I liked it. One of the interesting things is that the front sight is changeable by the end user. Tritium, fiber and a gold bead will all be available.


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Pilot1
01-01-17, 08:15
I liked it. One of the interesting things is that the front sight is changeable by the end user. Tritium, fiber and a gold bead will all be available.


Thanks Grant. That is great info. I like the interchangeable front sight.
The Dumb Gun Collector
01-01-17, 10:53
http://rangehot.com/new-colt-cobra-38-special-revolver/
williejc
01-01-17, 14:10
At 30 ounces frame size must approach S&W's K frame. The shrouded barrel adds weight too. The RIA Armscor M206 reviewed in this forum weighs 25 oz in the 2 inch barrel length according to an NRA article. Without seeing the new Cobra, my guess is that the frame is also a good bit thicker than the original. I'm certain that Colt has produced a nice revolver. My opinion is that the final product is a 2 inch belt carry weapon rather than a pocket pistol suitable for IWB carry.
Coal Dragger
01-01-17, 14:53
NRA magazine states it is 25oz.

I will patiently await the return of the King Cobra and the Anaconda.

A Python would be awesome, but I don't hold much hope for that.
jmoore
01-01-17, 15:18
>The trigger broke at eight pounds in double action and two pounds in single action.<

I'm interested:)
The Dumb Gun Collector
01-01-17, 17:09
Here is some more Cobra propaganda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvZeTJqpgDg

I think the need to come out with a lightweight "AirCobra" and then a new .357 "KingCobra" asap. I will be buying one of each.

Lots of thumb cocking in these vids. LOL
SeriousStudent
01-01-17, 18:28
I think that if Colt produced a DAO variant on this model, with a 3" barrel and a bobbed hammer, they would sell a lot of them. The user-replaceable front sight is a great idea, I'm excited about that.

If you look for what a used S&W 3" K or L frame is going for these days, Colt could make a very good return on such a pistol. I see those things going for $800 or more all the time.
The Dumb Gun Collector
01-01-17, 18:37
Absolutely. The J-frame needs a hammerless 6 shot competitor. Honestly, the only reason I never got a (lightweight) Cobra was the impracticability of repair work. I loved my old DS.
nml
01-01-17, 20:32
Asking the experts. Airweight J frame like a 442 is what 18 oz loaded? (340s obviously lighter still). How heavy is too heavy before pocket carry (pants or coat) doesn't work? I remember looking years ago at small DA/SA 380s/9s and nothing was under 20oz.
The Dumb Gun Collector
01-01-17, 23:01
Correct, 17-18oz loaded. I think the J-frame is about perfect, I imagine the Cobra will be around 28-29 loaded. The airweight J-frame is on the bleeding edge of tolerability so I doubt the Cobra is a candidate. It would be, however, the perfect holster gun. Hopefully they can get it down to about 20 or so with the sure to come lightweight Cobra.
MadDog
01-06-17, 14:58
I definitely need the new Cobra to keep these bad boys company. My 1964 Python and 1970 Colt Lawman III. I had Patrick Grasshorn make the Stag grips about 6 years ago. He does exceptional work. I would keep the Cobra stock as is.

http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww297/LittleAce1/IMG_1596_zpsip9yzcwc.jpg (http://s729.photobucket.com/user/LittleAce1/media/IMG_1596_zpsip9yzcwc.jpg.html)
The Dumb Gun Collector
01-06-17, 16:46
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1986s4
01-07-17, 08:34
I think that if Colt produced a DAO variant on this model, with a 3" barrel and a bobbed hammer, they would sell a lot of them. The user-replaceable front sight is a great idea, I'm excited about that.

If you look for what a used S&W 3" K or L frame is going for these days, Colt could make a very good return on such a pistol. I see those things going for $800 or more all the time.

I have a 3" M13-2, one of my favorite pistols. Very shootable, I used to carry it and I used it to good effect in IDPA competition. I would be very interested in a 3" Cobra, the gun S&W should still make.

Edit: I do understand that Colt makes the Cobra, not S&W. I think S&W should still make a 3" K frame with updated sights.
Dave James
01-13-17, 09:53
Damn I'm glad to see this this, LOVE THE DICK SPL, carried one for years,, now if some one will just bring back the shroud!!!!!
nml
01-13-17, 17:09
Thanks Greg. So with the weight being what it is, this is really more like a take on a stainless DS (or DS II I guess) than a Cobra...but the name is less popular so Colt is calling it a Cobra instead?
Dienekes
01-16-17, 18:16
So what's the DA like? In the day S&W's DA was the one to beat, and it still matters. Years ago I could have had a Mark III Trooper for nothing, and declined. From a look at the new Cobra's geometry, I wouldn't expect it to be much different from the old, old ones--which weren't very good.

Not that it matters at this late date.
The Dumb Gun Collector
07-16-17, 16:01
I have played with two in the shop and they both had superb triggers. I'm seriously considering turning in my crappy Sigg 320 in trade. I wish it had a boot grip option.
Coal Dragger
07-16-17, 17:07
Is it a round butt? If so just have patience. I'm sure Hogue or VZ will make a nice round butt boot grip in G10 soon.
Auto426
07-16-17, 18:04
From what I've seen it uses a grip frame that's very similar to the oirignal Cobra and DSII models. It's not quite a round butt, but it's very short. My guess is that now that the guns are in the wild it won't take long for aftermarket grips to start showing up. Colt already showed off what looked like VZ grips on some of the pre-production models, but I have not seen those available anywhere.