Glock Frame Reprofiling

[Wake27]

I'm looking for recommendations of shops that do frame work on Glocks. I don't like the finger grooves but my bigger problem is with the grip angle so I'm looking for a shop that will reprofile the whole grip. I was leaning heavily toward Boresight Solutions but Ben told me today that they'll only work with the Freya magwell now and I want mine to work with the Agency because of the Freya's compatibility issues. Does anyone know of other shops that have similar grip work? Agency, ATEi, and all those guys just stipple and remove the finger grooves from what I can tell. I need mine smaller and more vertical but really don't want to buy another pistol. Thanks.


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[Austin1776]

I gave up on Glock handguns quite a while back when I realized one day (an epiphany actually) that I was wasting a LOT of money trying to make a Glock, not a Glock. I think if more Glock owners who feel a need to alter, reshape, grind down, grind off, and otherwise do a whole host of "modifications" to make their Glock a handgun they like shooting, finally realized how absurd it all was, they would realize that a Glock is a Glock. You either like it and shoot it as is, or you are going to throw your money down the toilet on the fool thing.

[contax_shooter]

I don't think you're going to be able to create a more vertical grip angle on the Glock unless you perform a major reduction on the rear hump area, which will eliminate your chances of using the majority of aftermarket magwells.

Lots of the aftermarket grip work vendors will heat up the frame and reform the hump which makes that cavity collapse to a certain extent. The other method is to also reform the cavity and also fill in the gap for further grip reduction, which means no more cavity for the magwell support to be inserted.

IMO, you're kind of SOL if you want that extreme of a grip angle and use a magwell. You could always contact NAF Solutions, GNP Tactical, SSVI, and a plethora of those Instagram businesses. Or check out the Timberwolf frame or one of those new 80% Spectre frames.

My experience comes from modifying 3 Glock frames on my own. YMMV.

[Wake27]

I gave up on Glock handguns quite a while back when I realized one day (an epiphany actually) that I was wasting a LOT of money trying to make a Glock, not a Glock. I think if more Glock owners who feel a need to alter, reshape, grind down, grind off, and otherwise do a whole host of "modifications" to make their Glock a handgun they like shooting, finally realized how absurd it all was, they would realize that a Glock is a Glock. You either like it and shoot it as is, or you are going to throw your money down the toilet on the fool thing.

I understand that completely and go back and forth with it. Unfortunately there isn't another gun that is nearly as popular or with as much aftermarket support. Still, if I wasn't in Hawaii where it's a pain in the ass to buy a handgun I'd probably sit tight on dropping anymore money until M&P releases a CORE 2.0 and just go with that. This is all stemming from my range session yesterday where I could shoot my M&P significantly more accurately than my 19, even though the amount of time I spend training on the Glock is exponentially higher.


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[JRead100]

I know your struggle with trying to make the Glock as comfortable as possible. I spent $300 on framework trying to get my G19 in the ballpark of as comfortable as my VP9. Its better now, but not even in the parking lot of the ballpark of how comfy the VP9 is.

[Austin1776]

I know your struggle with trying to make the Glock as comfortable as possible. I spent $300 on framework trying to get my G19 in the ballpark of as comfortable as my VP9. Its better now, but not even in the parking lot of the ballpark of how comfy the VP9 is.

And...this is a good comment that proves my point. Like me, you probably got your Glock new for, well, let's just say $550, then spent at least $300 more trying to get it to feel as good as, in this case, the VP9. You have $800 into that G19. And then if you are like a lot of people, you are probably going to add new sights ($125), new trigger ($150), extended mag release ($30), etc. etc. etc. So, you are looking at sinking around $1100 into the Glock 19.

You could have just purchased a VP9 for $550.

It's a hard dose of reality, that I wish I had not had to learn the hard way.

[Austin1776]

I understand that completely and go back and forth with it. Unfortunately there isn't another gun that is nearly as popular or with as much aftermarket support. Still, if I wasn't in Hawaii where it's a pain in the ass to buy a handgun I'd probably sit tight on dropping anymore money until M&P releases a CORE 2.0 and just go with that. This is all stemming from my range session yesterday where I could shoot my M&P significantly more accurately than my 19, even though the amount of time I spend training on the Glock is exponentially higher.


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Thank you, and you make an excellent point about all the aftermarket parts for the Glock, and I appreciate that we can have a grown-up conversation about these things without it turning into a typical "bash Glock" or "rant and rave" type thing. The Glock handgun is an EXCELLENT handgun, any quite honestly, in my opinion, anyone who really doesn't understand why is not much of a gun person to begin with but just a brand fan boy. It is extremely simple and easy to maintain. You can even detail strip the thing easily. It just works. And it is easy to learn how to use it effectively. I've got all the respect in the world for the Glock.

But....where things get really interesting is when people start feeling a need to tinker around with it to get it to have the kind of trigger they find elsewhere, or grip feel, or ... you name it. Hence, my "got tired of trying to make a Glock not a Glock."

Good luck on your efforts.

[Mr. Greene]

I've hade good luck with Robar. Had them texture some Glocks and I know they do some grip mods so you might want to try them

[JRead100]

And...this is a good comment that proves my point. Like me, you probably got your Glock new for, well, let's just say $550, then spent at least $300 more trying to get it to feel as good as, in this case, the VP9. You have $800 into that G19. And then if you are like a lot of people, you are probably going to add new sights ($125), new trigger ($150), extended mag release ($30), etc. etc. etc. So, you are looking at sinking around $1100 into the Glock 19.

You could have just purchased a VP9 for $550.

It's a hard dose of reality, that I wish I had not had to learn the hard way.

You're dead on. I am at least $1100 into my 19. There are reasons I ditched my VP9 for the 19 though, I don't really regret it.

I really don't understand why Glock doesn't improve the ergonomics on their pistols. They don't have to mess with parts interchangeability, just make your pistols not feel like a 2x4.

[Wake27]

You're dead on. I am at least $1100 into my 19. There are reasons I ditched my VP9 for the 19 though, I don't really regret it.

I really don't understand why Glock doesn't improve the ergonomics on their pistols. They don't have to mess with parts interchangeability, just make your pistols not feel like a 2x4.

Because they're so damn cocky with their own "perfection" I assume.

I'll have to look into Robar when I get on a computer again. Now I'm thinking maybe I'll just ditch the magwell and send it to Boresight anyways. But still, $400 base price for a duty package. The P10 C and M&P 2.0 are both well under $500 with a military discount. This is frustrating.


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[Fluffy Bunny]

Another person to speak with would be the Tactical Texture guy, who iirc is a member here. I have never had any work done by him, but I have not seen anyone else who makes glocks look as pretty as he does.

[Wake27]

So I was messing around with my 19 a little more just now and decided to remove the Grip Force Adapter. I put it on almost as soon as I got the Glock (my first handgun) because of presenting high and have never taken it off. The grip comfort isn't any worse and I can still present on target it seems. This has me wondering if more traditional work with just removing the finger guards and a glove bevel would be good enough, or if I'd still need the bottom hump on the grip ground down. I might have to make this into a poll.

[Ryno12]

I understand that completely and go back and forth with it. Unfortunately there isn't another gun that is nearly as popular or with as much aftermarket support. Still, if I wasn't in Hawaii where it's a pain in the ass to buy a handgun I'd probably sit tight on dropping anymore money until M&P releases a CORE 2.0 and just go with that. This is all stemming from my range session yesterday where I could shoot my M&P significantly more accurately than my 19, even though the amount of time I spend training on the Glock is exponentially higher.


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How come you're forcing the Glock thing? If you shoot your M&P so much better, why not just stick with it & sell the Glock?

You also mentioned a lack of aftermarket support... What are you looking for on the M&P that you can't find? What does the "popularity" of the Glock have to do with anything?

(Sorry for all the questions, just trying to figure out why you're trying so hard to like your Glock.

I've got one & I'm completely content with not liking it. [emoji6])

[Wake27]

How come you're forcing the Glock thing? If you shoot your M&P so much better, why not just stick with it & sell the Glock?

You also mentioned a lack of aftermarket support... What are you looking for on the M&P that you can't find? What does the "popularity" of the Glock have to do with anything?

(Sorry for all the questions, just trying to figure out why you're trying so hard to like your Glock.

I've got one & I'm completely content with not liking it. [emoji6])

I have a shit ton of mags for it. At least 25, probably more. And PMAGs for it goes a long way in my justification. The Raven Eidolon is also the best concealed holster that I have found and I really like my 6354DO. While I'm sure it's pretty similar to the M&P, I'm much more familiar with the internals and stripping it. I like that mags are easier to seat with the slide forward than my M&P, and I like the size of it. It's reset is much shorter (though the full Apex kit produces a better break IMO) and the M&P bounces around in my hands because the grip is so slick. Plus I have some strange attraction to building my own version of a Roland Special with Unity's ATOM mount.

I tried the M&P for about eight months when I first moved here. I didn't even bring my Glock. I don't know why, but I quickly ended up missing the Glock, even with all of its flaws.


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[cop1211]

Jarvis Tactical, or 5Bgunworx, or weplead2nd.

[Ryno12]

I have a shit ton of mags for it. At least 25, probably more. And PMAGs for it goes a long way in my justification. The Raven Eidolon is also the best concealed holster that I have found and I really like my 6354DO. While I'm sure it's pretty similar to the M&P, I'm much more familiar with the internals and stripping it. I like that mags are easier to seat with the slide forward than my M&P, and I like the size of it. It's reset is much shorter (though the full Apex kit produces a better break IMO) and the M&P bounces around in my hands because the grip is so slick. Plus I have some strange attraction to building my own version of a Roland Special with Unity's ATOM mount.

I tried the M&P for about eight months when I first moved here. I didn't even bring my Glock. I don't know why, but I quickly ended up missing the Glock, even with all of its flaws.


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Gotcha

Next time, don't buy so many mags till you're positive you like the gun. [emoji3]

[ruchik]

I highly recommend Jarvis Tactical. I've had 2 Glocks done by him and couldn't be more pleased.

[williejc]

One reason that Glock does not change the grip is the phenomenal sales record with their product as is. My guess is that 99% of those carrying an issue Glock are OK
with it, and if they complained, who cares? I agree that some stippling and minor grip reduction can result in a better feel(whatever that is). I've wanted to have at least one of my Glocks stippled but have dragged my feet. I have adjusted to the Glock grip, even the finger grooves. I pay no attention to the grip and just shoot the gun amd worry about something else. I have two 19s and a 26 that work and do not throw brass in my face. Also, they shoot to point of aim. I now choose not to alter them.

[contax_shooter]

If you don't worry much about aesthetics, you can reshape yourself all in a few hours of work.

These have been heated and the hump was reprofiled:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/753/32310039976_1b87060c33_b.jpg

My stippling and borders may suck but everything works perfectly for the size of my hands.