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Just more or is this very poor thinking?
Thread protectors protect the threads from accidental damage. It's a great idea. Who cares what color they are.
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If you choose a color that universally is recognized as indicating the item is a toy, that's foolish
Like the people that color their glocks to look like toys or training models
It's not even in the same realm, considering it's a temporary item to protect the threads during shipment. Assuming you are talking about the rubber pieces placed over the threads to protect in transit until you install a muzzle device.
If you choose a color that universally is recognized as indicating the item is a toy, that's foolish
Like the people that color their glocks to look like toys or training models
If you choose a color that universally is recognized as indicating the item is a toy, that's foolish
Like the people that color their glocks to look like toys or training models
I guess I'm not tracking...what do you feel could be the outcome?
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^^ I made the thread in response to seeing someone posting pictures of their new AR15 with an orange tip because they decided to leave the thread protector on
^ both issues result in either citizens or police being required to shoot someone that appears to be threatening them with a toy gun, because there is now no difference when real guns are made to look like toy guns
I am sort of with IG but it is common for bad guy wannabes to paint a toy gun muzzle black to make it pass for a real weapon. I don't doubt some have painted a muzzle orange to pass for a toy.
556BlackRifle
01-29-17, 15:44
I am sort of with IG but it is common for bad guy wannabes to paint a toy gun muzzle black to make it pass for a real weapon. I don't doubt some have painted a muzzle orange to pass for a toy.
^This.^ If a bad guy wants his AR to look like a toy, all he needs is a rattle can of Rustoleum.
hotrodder636
01-29-17, 15:49
Non-issue. Stupid people will continue to be stupid. Regardless of the color if someone wants a real gun to look fake or vice versa a rattle can will make that happen.
Stupid people do stupid things. Wake me up when there is a new revelation in life.
Just more or is this very poor thinking?
Do you work in some sort of .gov regulatory agency? If not, Diane Feinstein would love you.
Your question is the epitome of ".gov logic"
tucsonrick
01-29-17, 16:26
Do you work in some sort of .gov regulatory agency? If not, Diane Feinstein would love you.
Your question is the epitome of ".gov logic"
Agreed. Not an issue worth worrying about.
Checked my URL. Coast is clear. We are NOT on TOS. Phew.
I've seen them come in orange, green, and most recently from Sionics, black, it fit so snugly I had to use pliers to rotate it out of the barrel, though it's not threaded. They do their job regardless of their color, for all I care, I'd be fine if someone just tapes some TP around it so the muzzle doesn't get damaged.
An idiot proof device inevitably finds better idiots, of which there is limitless supply, to render it useless.
Barrel makers should consider including a warning label for midgets to not use them as condoms.
Why is this a topic?
This.
I just assumed it was bright so people knew to take it off.
If they were black we'd have a new thread every weak about how the compensator that came on the stripped barrel sucks.
^^ I made the thread in response to seeing someone posting pictures of their new AR15 with an orange tip because they decided to leave the thread protector on
^ both issues result in either citizens or police being required to shoot someone that appears to be threatening them with a toy gun, because there is now no difference when real guns are made to look like toy guns
Bare hands looks like firearms to many officers based on their claims after a shooting.
I've seen them come in orange, green, and most recently from Sionics, black, it fit so snugly I had to use pliers to rotate it out of the barrel, though it's not threaded. They do their job regardless of their color, for all I care, I'd be fine if someone just tapes some TP around it so the muzzle doesn't get damaged.
An idiot proof device inevitably finds better idiots, of which there is limitless supply, to render it useless.
Barrel makers should consider including a warning label for midgets to not use them as condoms.
I was going to post links to some midget porn that show definitive proof that thread protectors won't work, but Forum decorum got the better of me. A warning directed towards "Regressive Leftists", now that I can wrap my head around! :D
These things are color coded for whatever diameter round they are made for. It has nothing to do with a warning or toy gun.
This is the most retarded thread I have seen in 5 years.
A stripped barrel has the plug to protect the threads and muzzle
What kind of gheto bottom of the barrel company sends a complete rifle with a threaded muzzle, without at least an a2 flash hider. The answer is simple one i dont pay attention to.
The plastic plug cover is a machining industry standard part to protect parts with a critically machined, fragile, or sharp tip/surface.
Only a scared commie state living fudd cares about that stuff.
Just take it off and put an a2 fh or somthing else on the muzzle.
(Psst....Why is this a thread....)
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Do you work in some sort of .gov regulatory agency? If not, Diane Feinstein would love you.
Your question is the epitome of ".gov logic"
Its the commie sheeple victim mentality.
Reminds me of the people that called atf about all the items that can be put in a ad pistol buffer tube. Like the crutch tip. Oh noooo gotta call atf because this might be illegal.
Worry about your own issues and dont complicate life
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Straight Shooter
01-29-17, 20:45
These things are color coded for whatever diameter round they are made for. It has nothing to do with a warning or toy gun.
This is the most retarded thread I have seen in 5 years.
I honestly started to type the almost identical response..but didn't want to get banned or something. Glad you did.
Red RCL-10 is handy for range use.
https://www.caplugs.com/series/Long-Threaded_Connector_Caps/1201.html
Come to think of it, I had someone make a similar comment at a 3 gun match about it.
Jormungandr
01-29-17, 22:58
I'm going to guess that didn't go like the OP expected.
No, what I expected.
When you see someone doing something dumb, like posting pics of their AR that looks exactly like a toy gun with an orange tipped barrel, then realize they screwed up and any firearm company that ships a barrel/gun with a thread cover that makes it look exactly like a toy is also screwing up.
It's called self policing.
And everyone here agrees it was a huge problem when the kid shot by police took the orange tip off of his toy gun, it's equally dumb to put an orange tip on a real gun.
Common sense stuff with the easiest of solutions.
But if you want to support the idea of companies selling rifles made to look like toys, feel free
Stupid hurts. Its a law or somthing.
Crimminals are already commiting a crime whats one more. Besides if the cimminal robbed someone with a obvious toy the victim would laugh. So they remove it to have the toy impersonate a real one. Their intent is to threaten with loss of life. It dont matter the threat was real or not. The threat to the victim was percieved as real. That is good enough.
The child removing the tip is proof the parents a neglecting in their job as parents. Its not the cops fault. In major cities crimminals as young as 10 are now the shooter. After all they know they will be out before they get out of juvie. Unfortunately its the job of the parent to teach their child. Not everyone else.
To the cop the threat must be treated as real. It is their life. They have as much right to go home to their family and children as the one who pointed a gun.
This aint the 50s crimminals are smart they know the law. They live and skirt the law thier whole lives. They then teach a new generation how to do what they did.
Now we have women suicide bombers and children doing the same. The children now perform executions. It is sad but it is reality now.
There is a reason the law requires a person to be 18 to buy these things. Since that is true and since a 10 year old usually has no job and cant buy them, then isint it the responsibility of the parents to teach the child. Isn't the reposnbility of the parent to supervise them. Blame the parents for the actions of the child. The ball starts and in many cases ends with them.
I agree we should self police. The perents should be first in line and in many cases recive the same and worse punishments that the child got.
Ps. Common sense is taught. Usually by the parents. Common info and values are different with every generation. If the parent doesnt pass it on how do you expect it to get to the child
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And once again. Are you talking about a plastic/rubber thread protector that goes over the end of the threaded area of the barrel? If so, it's a non-issue.
No, what I expected.
When you see someone doing something dumb, like posting pics of their AR that looks exactly like a toy gun with an orange tipped barrel, then realize they screwed up and any firearm company that ships a barrel/gun with a thread cover that makes it look exactly like a toy is also screwing up.
It's called self policing.
And everyone here agrees it was a huge problem when the kid shot by police took the orange tip off of his toy gun, it's equally dumb to put an orange tip on a real gun.
Common sense stuff with the easiest of solutions.
But if you want to support the idea of companies selling rifles made to look like toys, feel free
The orange tip does nothing. A few years ago, a kid was playing laser tag in a park at night. A laser tag gun clearly doesn't look like a real gun. He jumped out of a bush and pointed his laser tag gun at a police officer as a joke. Not looking like a real gun didn't save that kid from being shot & killed. It was dark and the office could not tell the kid was just pointing a toy at him
Are you against orange/yellow/red colored condoms as well?
companies selling rifles made to look like toys,
Can you post a link to a couple so we can see what you are talking about?
As an aside, in this day and age, if you point anything that looks like some sort of weapon at a LEO, you should expect to be shot. There's your common sense easy solution. Don't point weapons or weapon-like devices at LEOs. No one gets hurt and even the color blind and rainbow coalition are included. Common sense does not dictate that red/orange on a muzzle equates to safety. That is antiquated thinking with no basis in reality.
Rule #5 - Never aim anything of a weapon-like nature at LE without the expectation of loss of life.
I suppose whomever invented the first four figured that was a given.
No, what I expected.
When you see someone doing something dumb, like posting pics of their AR that looks exactly like a toy gun with an orange tipped barrel, then realize they screwed up and any firearm company that ships a barrel/gun with a thread cover that makes it look exactly like a toy is also screwing up.
It's called self policing.
And everyone here agrees it was a huge problem when the kid shot by police took the orange tip off of his toy gun, it's equally dumb to put an orange tip on a real gun.
Common sense stuff with the easiest of solutions.
But if you want to support the idea of companies selling rifles made to look like toys, feel free
We get this is something you're passionate about (for whatever reason), but passive aggressive snide comments won't make your case.
This thread can be ended with a:
TL;DR
Guns are not toys, no peice of plastic will make a difference in that in regards to shootings.
If you think a company is "making guns look like toys" when they're putting a piece of plastic to protect the manufactured item in transit, please reavaluate this situation fully before proceeding.
I'm confused! Whats the difference what color they are. Does anyone typically walk around with a gun in their hand? The gun is either in a holster where the color can't be seen. In a safe, where it can't be seen, or at the range where everyone is shooting real guns anyway.
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Who will stop M4C from becoming ARFCOM?
I'm confused! Whats the difference what color they are. Does anyone typically walk around with a gun in their hand? The gun is either in a holster where the color can't be seen. In a safe, where it can't be seen, or at the range where everyone is shooting real guns anyway.
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Open Carry Texas.
Open Carry Texas.
But gun is still in a holster. Even if it's an open bottom holster
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But gun is still in a holster. Even if it's an open bottom holster
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Who's talking about OC-ing handguns?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzw8jW0aCys
Can you post a link to a couple so we can see what you are talking about?
As an aside, in this day and age, if you point anything that looks like some sort of weapon at a LEO, you should expect to be shot. There's your common sense easy solution. Don't point weapons or weapon-like devices at LEOs. No one gets hurt and even the color blind and rainbow coalition are included. Common sense does not dictate that red/orange on a muzzle equates to safety. That is antiquated thinking with no basis in reality.
Rule #5 - Never aim anything of a weapon-like nature at LE without the expectation of loss of life.
I suppose whomever invented the first four figured that was a given.
No need to point anything or have anything in hand.
Nothing new about any of that other than occasionally now video of the event clears the name of the person who got shot.
hotrodder636
01-30-17, 10:56
I kept my thread protector on until my SF brake came in...that is what it is for.43749
titsonritz
01-30-17, 11:27
You know I'm sure there is someone stupid enough to taste the "breath-mint" in the urinal too, but what do you do? Their stupid and you can't make the world revolve around them.
You can't self police or regulate stupid. The issue isn't that some idiot pointed a gun with an orange tip at a cop or anyone else for that matter. The root cause of someone dying or getting hurt isn't the color of the barrel. It's that a gun was pointed at someone.
If you don't want to get shot just don't point guns, real or fake, at people. It's not that hard. Raise your kids to not do that if you want them to make it past puberty.
Rocket surgery, this in NOT.
Singlestack Wonder
01-30-17, 11:50
Are we really discussing colored barrel thread protectors and their possibility of attracting police fire here???
Are we really discussing colored barrel thread protectors and their possibility of attracting police fire here???
Yes, some did not graduate from Kindergarten. Welcome to the new ARFCOM.
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jackblack73
01-30-17, 13:01
You might as well get upset over orange on the FedEx packaging. Either way it's only for transport and is removed before the product is used.
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