Who Makes Your Favorite/The Best Looking Lower Receiver Roll Mark?

[officerX]

I know this is purely cosmetic, but what manufacturer makes your favorite roll mark? BAD and Noveske are 2 of my favorites.

[rickgman]

Colt is my favorite

[JulyAZ]

I care more about a proper spec'd lower. I'll take whatever rollmark that comes with that as my favorite.

[jpmuscle]

KAC

/thread

[darr3239]

Noveske

[556BlackRifle]

I concur. BAD and Noveske are my favorites.

[masakari]

https://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/151476/916876803/wm_4612267.jpg
LRB

After that would be Colt, KAC, and ArmaLite (Pegasus version).

[Uprange41]

I've always really liked Stag's roll mark. I just want to hang it over the fireplace or something.

[midSCarolina]

KAC followed by Colt

[wigbones]

Noveske has got to be my favorite.

[Press Check]

COLT!

[JasonB1]

McKay Enterprises

[HeruMew]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/dsc_3116-tfb.jpg

[titsonritz]

Battle Arms Development
KAC
Colt
Though I'd like to pick up UCWRG (https://www.ucwrg.com/materiel/lower-receivers/25/forged-lower-receiver/)

[bsoileau24]

Red Jacket lol


Kac then colt

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[MeanCarbine]

KAC and MEGA.

[rocketman]

Aside from Colt, Noveske and LMT in that order

[Meta-Prometheus]

Colt, without a doubt.

[WickedWillis]

Noveske, KAC, LMT, Seekins

[battlestage]

Spike's Jolly Roger for me.

[Coal Dragger]

Colt's Defense, KAC, Noveske. In that order where cosmetics are concerned.

If I owned a KAC it might move up...

[masenomics]

KAC then Colt.

[Grip]

Noveske, then KAC.

[Col_Crocs]

Colt or Noveske. The simpler the better. My absolute favorite, though, is Elisco Tool. -- No logo, just no nonsense text.

[TacMedic556]

Ghost - blank is best. Friends who "made" their own have some slick looking setups. If it has to be marked then I would prefer it have the pony - COLT.

[SiGfever]

KAC, Colt, Mega

[TacticalFun]

Saint [emoji3] ....i like mega arms.

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[rapomstage3]

Kac,kmc,magpul

[joeyjoe]

Colt, without question.

[Cold/Bore]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/dsc_3116-tfb.jpg

Very yes.

[uffdaphil]

Just based on the logo - Mega, LRB, Sionics. I would love to see BCM come out with a cool roll mark, but I still buy them without.

[jackblack73]

I own two Megas but don't actually like their roll mark. Favorite is probably KAC.

[Cagemonkey]

Colt and the Original Armalite.

[fledge]

Noveske. SMOS. KAC.

MEGA likes their roll marks too much.

[AppalachianThunder]

Sionics.

[Novak]

Spike's Jolly Roger for me.

Same here.

[lt1 sport]

Colt, then FN's oval.

[para13cord]

Anderson

[JDR556]

Deleted

[KUSA]

It just doesn't get better than this.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170208/e08cd5b789caef556137a754711c4dcc.jpg

[ccosby]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/dsc_3116-tfb.jpg

That is one of my favorites. I gotta admit I like umbrella corporation lowers as well for the very basic look. KAC's is good too.

I would love to see armalite go back to the Pegasus logo.

Someone mentioned Red Jacket, I have to admit I kinda like the logo.

As far as buying a lower from a random company because I like their logo. I wish Offensive Weapons didn't fold. I found out about them when they were starting to shut down.

https://www.facebook.com/offensiveweapons/

I really wanted one of those space balls lowers. A few of the others were good as well. The super troopers was good, the killadoser was pretty funny etc. They even did a tijuana donkey show lower.

[daniel87]

I kinda like the look of the rss defense logo.
Dont have it just think it's cool

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[BoringGuy45]

The Spike's Spartan, which is my (pending) SBR, and the Spike's Crusader.

[Meta-Prometheus]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/dsc_3116-tfb.jpg

I missed this one somehow. While I do not own a Magpul lower I have personally handled serial number CO24. Perks of knowing people who knew people when I lived in Denver. To be honest posting this one is almost cruel. Magpul lowers are total unobtainium!

[GrumpyM4]

I'm kinda partial to the cosmetics of the old Ordnance symbol that SA uses, but that's because I've seen that rollmark/stamp on thousands of guns I worked on overseas.

I was also really partial to the old Cav Arms logo.

Other then that, Colt of course and strangely enough, Aero Precision along with Noveske, but of course for a guy like me, nothing beats the old HK logo on the side of any gun.

[MegademiC]

Mega. I'm a nerd.
I thought the old honeycomb (LAR) looked cool too.

[Tigereye]

Noveske and KAC

[Thump_rrr]

I see lots of love for the Noveske roll mark.
Although I own a couple I don't find the roll mark anything special.
I would go with Umbrella Corporation followed by Colt.

[3 AE]

I've always really liked Stag's roll mark. I just want to hang it over the fireplace or something.

I get it, and toast it with a shot of schnapps!

[Kenobi]

I really like how clean and unobtrusive the Aero Precision logo looks on their lowers.


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[AAMP84]

As far as just roll marks, I like Hodge Defense, Noveske, KAC, BAD, and UCWRG.

[Locutus]

For Virginians:

43923

[TMS951]

I have a SMOS GFY Lower with no logo, this is awesome I love it.

Do the Noveske guys like the Iron cross or are you just a Noveske fan boy?

[bighawk]

Noveske for me

[JoshNC]

Colt, KAC, LMT

[3ACR_Scout]

I seriously thought I was on another forum when I saw this topic. But having said that...


I would love to see BCM come out with a cool roll mark, but I still buy them without.
I'm not sure anyone has changed their rollmark as often as BCM has in the past few years. It had the full name spelled out, then the "BCM" letters, and now it has BCM with the star.

[Col_Crocs]

^^ Their second, with just BCM and no star, was the best one IMHO. Looks like they've started CNCing their rollmarks too which I'm not a huge fan of aesthetically.

[Eurodriver]

PSA OIF

[Outlander Systems]

http://www.quarterbore.com/images/oa96_1_a.jpg

[officerX]

I have a SMOS GFY Lower with no logo, this is awesome I love it.

Do the Noveske guys like the Iron cross or are you just a Noveske fan boy?

I said Noveske because I dig the iron cross.

[Stickman]

I'm a fan of the series San Tan Tactical did for me....

http://68.media.tumblr.com/867c5cf8aa856e2591909b53a9f13041/tumblr_nmvzgpEqA21rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/61473c8a693133c69d148d0e1143f46a/tumblr_niltb8AsLm1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/d90b172f88b414e629dc4d9602be2349/tumblr_npaqjg1eC21rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

[Stickman]

I'm a fan of the Centurion Arms ones as well. Simple, but clean and good looking. There aren't many of these out there, but that is part of the appeal.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/72542576a19d3c27f8c501cffc2f8242/tumblr_mpj74xv8Ic1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/f7a35f20931bc1b3573adec3611715df/tumblr_n8mczmAEyQ1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

[Stickman]

DCA was a nice simple one, but I think they folded.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/70ac6a35676b98c7e26f34d3abab63bc/tumblr_mte3i5l1Rt1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

[StevethePirate]

No pictures handy, but it's a tossup for me between the old school Noveske cross and the Ballistic Advantage ace of spades.

[Firefly]

Colt, KAC, LMT
This.

A familiar elegance. Nothing fancy, political, or "in your face".

Everytime I see a skull on an AR15, I just die a little inside.

[Jewell]

This.

A familiar elegance. Nothing fancy, political, or "in your face".

Everytime I see a skull on an AR15, I just die a little inside.

I hear ya. The punisher logo makes me want to eat glass. Hasn't the damn thing run its course yet?

[Alex V]

My personal favorite is Noveske.

The Magpul ones are awesome as well.

[Firefly]

I hear ya. The punisher logo makes me want to eat glass. Hasn't the damn thing run its course yet?

Indeed. Actually, I always thought Hydramatic receivers were neat just for the History

[556BlackRifle]

I'm a fan of the series San Tan Tactical did for me....

http://68.media.tumblr.com/867c5cf8aa856e2591909b53a9f13041/tumblr_nmvzgpEqA21rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/61473c8a693133c69d148d0e1143f46a/tumblr_niltb8AsLm1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/d90b172f88b414e629dc4d9602be2349/tumblr_npaqjg1eC21rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

That's dope.

[Razorblade]

Ive always been a fan of the noveske logo

[Eurodriver]

I'm a fan of the series San Tan Tactical did for me....

]

Looks like there's some perks to being you after all!

:)

Sweet lower.

[bighawk]

I have a SMOS GFY Lower with no logo, this is awesome I love it.

Do the Noveske guys like the Iron cross or are you just a Noveske fan boy?

I'm a Noveske fan but wouldn't consider myself a fanboy. I just like the iron cross but I also have family in Grants Pass where they are located and I visit there often so I think that's pretty cool.


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[M.Bailey]

Sons of Liberty Gun Works. Angry Patriot is bad-ass

Mega for the nerd in me

[Zirk208]

I hear ya. The punisher logo makes me want to eat glass. Hasn't the damn thing run its course yet?

I would rate the punisher skull and pirates right up there with anything zombie related.

[Stickman]

Looks like there's some perks to being you after all!



I wouldn't count on it being worth it....

[Stickman]

The Magpul family of lowers have always been a favorite of mine....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3617/3589479488_f91da5b972_o.jpg


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8382/8677460725_49b57419e4_o.jpg


https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2447/3772118871_837b17b8f4_o.jpg


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8189/8090911185_6625361bd7_o.jpg

[vandal5]

Just me or is something missing here?
Crap meant to quote Outlander

[vandal5]

http://www.quarterbore.com/images/oa96_1_a.jpg

Mag release missing?

[SeriousStudent]

The Magpul family of lowers have always been a favorite of mine....

.....


https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2447/3772118871_837b17b8f4_o.jpg


......

Verily, I am a covetous bastige every time I see that China Doll receiver. It's a beauty.

[Vegas]

I like Umbrella, Noveske, SMOS and of course the Magpul lowers. I'm also partial to CMT. I came close to buying one of these but Spikes, so I didn't happen ;)

http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/v/vspfiles/photos/SP-STLS022-2.jpg

[Rogue556]

I actually would prefer it blank. I never have been much of a fan of logos and letters on firearms and their components.

The Battle Arms 80% lower is just about perfect.

http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o753/Rogue556/lower_forged_80__06_zpshuk9agir.jpg (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/Rogue556/media/lower_forged_80__06_zpshuk9agir.jpg.html)

Of course, if I had to pick one it would be KAC, followed by Colt, then the Battle Arms standard lower.

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[BBossman]

Not mine, but I dig it...

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/04/20/potd-izhmash-ar15/

http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq169/bbossman1/index_zpspxiq51vx.jpg

http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/qq169/bbossman1/izhmash%20ar_zpsrb0mj90z.jpg

[JC5188]

I'm a fan of the series San Tan Tactical did for me....

http://68.media.tumblr.com/867c5cf8aa856e2591909b53a9f13041/tumblr_nmvzgpEqA21rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/61473c8a693133c69d148d0e1143f46a/tumblr_niltb8AsLm1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/d90b172f88b414e629dc4d9602be2349/tumblr_npaqjg1eC21rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170210/14694101628b6c2ee54582ed8f406460.jpg



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[Alnamvet68]

Three on my list...#3 would be Midwest Industries M4 Basic. #2 is the Springfield Amory Saint...and the best of the best is the Smith & Wesson AR15.

[teksid]

I like Noveske's cross. I don't really like the Colt markings. I wish they had either the pony or the "Colt", not both. I like the Spikes Crusader lower.
I also buy Anderson stripped lowers because I'm from KY, I'm a horseman and my family's name is Anderson. I don't like the finish on them though. It's not bad it's just to light compared to most upper receivers.

[thei3ug]

Mag release missing?

Compliance model with then applicable laws regarding removable magazine capacity. Mag fixed I place. You split the receiver to load full 30.

[PaLEOjd]

I'm not really into the boutique firearms but I wouldn't mind having one of those Magpul lowers.

[Dionysusigma]

This is AWESOME.

But, regarding actually-attainable equipment...


McKay Enterprises

[556BlackRifle]

This is AWESOME.

But, regarding actually-attainable equipment...

It may be. Did you notice the forge mark?

Edited to add link. Never mind... They don't have any. At least not at this time.

http://www.k-var.com/shop/Izhmash-Russia

[Trepang]

Colt's with the "Restricted" roll marked

[nutnless220]

I dig the Sionics weapon systems rollmark.
Looks almost like the Umbrella Corp. logo.

[hotrodder636]

As someone who grew up in Longmont, I would love to have one of those Magpul lowers.

That said my choice would be KAC, Umbrella Corp, Colt. I really like my LMT but their rollmark is pretty plain.

[mtel]

I'm a fan of the series San Tan Tactical did for me....

Glorious...

[tuck]

/thread

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/tuckinauster/29135487506_d93c693a42_b_zpsl5ivcvbs.jpg

[Kdubya]

Purely on looks, and not necessarily in order...

- Spikes Crusader (I can't decide if I like it more with or without the Bible Verse)

- Noveske (Clean and simple. I've not been able to find a definitive answer on what the logo stands for, if anything. For me, I like the subtle Templar/Maltese Cross look to it.)

- Bushmaster (Older logo with the larger text, not the current generation. For me it has a Gadsden Flag feel, but without being intentional.)

I've not seen an Umbrella Corp in person, but I really do like the looks of their logo.

[JC5188]

I've always liked the current ArmaLite roll mark. They do a nice job of making it even as well.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170211/c6a1dfaac1e8579972c313e55fe5a5fc.jpg


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[ruckusjuice]

This is AWESOME.

But, regarding actually-attainable equipment...

If you look at the first comment in the link, it's just an 80% lower the owner had engraved because he was making a .300 blackout pistol and liked AKs. He links to his own blog in his comment and explains his process from start to finish.


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[pinzgauer]

Noveske, UWRC Umbrella, and Sionics simple pictograms

LMT oval

And don't be a hater: doublestar dragon

[Herknav]

I would rate the punisher skull and pirates right up there with anything zombie related.

And any lower with markings indicating a non-existent (full-auto or burst) function.

[officerX]

Noveske, UWRC Umbrella, and Sionics simple pictograms

LMT oval

And don't be a hater: doublestar dragon

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170211/ad8737c05bc142b6e5fa458c9da28f3a.png

[pinzgauer]

Logo rule: simpler is better. The best logos can be printed in one color on a sheet of letter sized paper and be clearly recognized 100' away (or more)

Noveske, Mercedes, Mitsubishi three diamonds, etc are extreme examples

[curious1]

Ratworx

[cougar_guy04]

The Magpul family of lowers have always been a favorite of mine....

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3617/3589479488_f91da5b972_o.jpg


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8382/8677460725_49b57419e4_o.jpg


https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2447/3772118871_837b17b8f4_o.jpg


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8189/8090911185_6625361bd7_o.jpg

Winner. If I were to ever hit the lotto I would go on a quest to putnseveral of those in my collection "just because".

Another favorite just for the sake of being unique, the GM Hydramatic roll mark:
https://bpullignwolnet.dotster.com/retroblackrifle/sitebuilder/images/Hydra-Matic-600x560.jpg

[Plumber576]

What, no Tapco fans?

http://i.imgur.com/WrTZTmA.jpg

[Joelski]

Winner. If I were to ever hit the lotto I would go on a quest to putnseveral of those in my collection "just because".

Another favorite just for the sake of being unique, the GM Hydramatic roll mark:
https://bpullignwolnet.dotster.com/retroblackrifle/sitebuilder/images/Hydra-Matic-600x560.jpg

That's badass! A transmission company M-16 is just a shitload cooler than a Colt's version!

[_Stormin_]

That's badass! A transmission company M-16 is just a shitload cooler than a Colt's version!
War time production... The real bad ass weapon is the Singer Sewing Machine Co 1911. Granted, I don't think any of us ever have a chance to own one.

[Joelski]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170212/99e04e23d81e1730d2274cfe6aef83de.jpg

Kitteh
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170212/755844b0a60e6920ad890729b837434e.jpg

Ominous S/N
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170212/d4c93659d8da1b5e4ece13f4de4e4d72.jpg

Not a true roll ark, but still pretty cool.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170212/c4d9249efd196c4ac35fea7d82b4da86.jpg

[Kdubya]

War time production... The real bad ass weapon is the Singer Sewing Machine Co 1911. Granted, I don't think any of us ever have a chance to own one.

Absolutely. It all harkens back to a time where Americans recognized and stood against evil. Where neighbors united, and everyday people did their part to support the men and women of our military. Now, we have to contend with people who think we should try to understand the savages; who would lay waste to waste to the west if given the chance.

[bp7178]

Winner. If I were to ever hit the lotto I would go on a quest to putnseveral of those in my collection "just because".

Another favorite just for the sake of being unique, the GM Hydramatic roll mark:
https://bpullignwolnet.dotster.com/retroblackrifle/sitebuilder/images/Hydra-Matic-600x560.jpg

Without a doubt.

[glocke12]

In this order

Noveske
KAC
Colt

[Rayrevolver]

I used a BAD-15 for my first SBR:

https://www.battlearmsdevelopment.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1200x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/b/a/bad-15_in_foam_2_2_1.jpg

[Vegas]

I used a BAD-15 for my first SBR:

https://www.battlearmsdevelopment.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1200x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/b/a/bad-15_in_foam_2_2_1.jpg
That's a nice looking lower and right on my doorstep. Had no clue. Makes me wonder what else I don't know...

[JC5188]

Does it have to be an AR?

How 'bout a vintage Buck Rogers Disentigrator

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170213/f8f3c0f8cb20122ecacf8152ffc70d44.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170213/6aa0fce0905e34996bfab447fa82b9a3.jpg


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[CharlieDeltaJuliet]

I think my favorite are

Magpul
HK
WarSport
Noveske
Colt

[gripnM4]

I like the billet spartan lowers...but I drink from the prancing pony kool-aid :p

[tehpwnag3]

The BAD looks awesome, but my favorite is BCM.

[sig1473]

Noveske Gen2, Colt, KAC, Noveske Gen1

[Kvjavs]

Rock River Arms & Armalite for an actual rollmark. Other top picks are BCM, Del-Ton, Stag, Bushmaster.

Lack of rollmark goes to Range Tool, but they no longer sell lowers to the public :(

I hate pictograms.

[officerX]

I've always loved Ruger's logo. I forgot they made ARs until I saw a stripped lower on the interwebz today. I picked one up for cheap for my next build.

[Kenneth]

I like the ADM lowers. This will be my first SBR lower.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170215/fe954e5f2da1081e0d5dd912afca3ba8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170215/cd7c946fa45f24ccac7643d35c49deb8.jpg


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[Freelance]

Noveske, Mega, Magpul, ADM

[Endur]

Noveske, LMT, and KAC. BCM needs to switch to their distressed Star logo and they would rival the Noveske iron X.

[Rogue556]

BCM needs to switch to their distressed Star logo

This needs to happen.They'd be in my top three for sure if that was their roll mark. Ironically enough, I own more of their lowers than anything else, but of course it wasn't looks that made that decision..

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[PrevailFI]

Pure COSMETICS? Spike's CRUSADER! Cross & Shield roll mark. PAX, BELLUM, DEUS VULT

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[SavageBrew84]

If those SN's are sequential, then I own one of those lowers pictured in that box. I also like Noveske and Umbrella Corp.


I used a BAD-15 for my first SBR:

https://www.battlearmsdevelopment.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1200x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/b/a/bad-15_in_foam_2_2_1.jpg

[TriggerFish]

Still sticking with my little pony...
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/Z06M16A1/FullAutoART.jpg

[tanktop]

I've always wanted one of these, it may exceed the term roll mark though.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170221/62301035b4ff72f980e68a0491e7de36.jpg


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[lt1 sport]

Now that I received my KAC stripped lower, I am sold Stoner Rifle/KAC= end of thread....

[JediGuy]

Like most things, simplicity is the key to being recognizable. I have no desire to own a Noveske (nothing negative, just not on my radar), but their roll mark would top my list. As others have said, BCM has a lot of potential, but not as it is now. Palmetto State's is actually good, but they should remove the text or rework it.

Noveske
Magpul
Seekins (could be smaller)

[jpmuscle]

Still sticking with my little pony...
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/Z06M16A1/FullAutoART.jpg
Oh my that third pin though.

[delta-1]

KAC then Colt.

[officerX]

The CMT is starting to grow on me.

[mpsteve]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170402/8cde8220e65d40a5f29e1ec122d4ccdc.jpg


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[mpsteve]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170402/e3cb84079d2b48e68773cdebebb7e7fe.jpg


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[kwg020]

The Colt would be #1 but I also like the Armalite lion. My #3 would be the small A on Aero Precision. Less is more.
kwg

[VLODPG]

Any lower that is in spec & is not marked with the retard "multi cal" markings.

[AlphaTango23]

KAC


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[Stickman]

KAC


http://68.media.tumblr.com/c962a6e1702aaeb95f961a489b4f6b33/tumblr_onssnjSuNh1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg

[capt46wfd]

Like my KAC but the Mega receivers fit together so nice, the roll mark is starting to grow on me.

[magister]

KAC is pretty slick. I like the BCM roll mark too. I mean the second BCM one, not the first or current.

[Bomba07]

Noveske N4 Gen 1 is probably my favorite.

[THEOZZ]

KAC,LMT,Colt

[Swstock]

Mega, noveske, offensive

[RHINOWSO]

Mega & Noveske

[Hammer_Man]

Umbrella Corporation, Noveske, KAC, LMT, Colt.

[TMB]

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[ccosby]

Still sticking with my little pony...
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c314/Z06M16A1/FullAutoART.jpg


Gotta say since my a2 has shown up at my dealer the pony lowers are growing on me. http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/922/202VLD.jpg

[wct097]

Always thought the prancing pony was goofy looking. Would still love to afford one with the 3rd pin, but still. Noveske gets my vote.

http://wct097.com/wt/guns/sbr/noveske_left_close.JPG

[HMM]

I may be the oddball but I don't like the KAC at all. Noveske isn't a favorite of mine either. I prefer just a simple name across it like the old school Wilson Combat lowers with not picture. And the 80% lowers that are blank are even better...lol

Guess that's why there are so many, different strokes for different folks!

[jimbob2525]

i like cmmg because it lets you know what it is
http://14544-presscdn-0-64.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Mk4HT02.jpg

kind of like the old fn pistols
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/FN-Browning-1900-courtesy-wikipedia.com_.jpg

[Mr McSimon]

A National Association for Gun Rights (http://www.nationalgunrights.org) lower by DRD Tactical. I have a personal connection with them, and this one was a gift, so ofc I decided to post a few pics.

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[mooseman]

1. UCWRG - I have a pre-production Billet Lower from them and it's a work of art. Their logo in raised 3D is amazing machining.
2. Noveske
3. LaRue

I also like the PSA logo, Colt and Aero Precision but those listed above are my favorites

[TMS951]

A lot of interesting and similar responses in this thread.

While I took the question to be which role mark looks the best to you. Many seem to respond with their favorite tier 1 brand. I get the role mark represents that brand, but do really actually like it graphically?

Lets take noveske for example. Tier 1 brand subjectively, tons of fan boys. But it's an iron cross, do you really dig the iron cross? An iron cross makes me think neo nazi and biker gangs. I get it had a long history, but I live in the present. Personally while owning moves or parts like a barrel, you'll never catch me with a noveske lower because of the role mark.

Next up, Colt. It's got a name, it's got quality, it's got fan boys. But it's got a baby horse on it. Is that your thing? A baby horse, it's like something little girls like. I own a Colt 6720, I am proud of it. But I never look at the role mark and am all like wow that's such a cool little picture.

Lastly KAC. Own one of these too. I think a super cool company, and a knight is cooler than a baby horse or iron cross. But as designs go, I could be a bit better.

Obviously I there is some truly terrible role marks out there. I just found these common responses interesting from a psychological perspective.

[JRHorne]

Mother of God... if I could only find this one.

http://i1256.photobucket.com/albums/ii490/arkhaminm8/SUPERLOWER.jpg

Edit: I also find this one hilarious

http://14544-presscdn-0-64.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/im-your-huckleberry.jpg

[Kdubya]

A lot of interesting and similar responses in this thread.

While I took the question to be which role mark looks the best to you. Many seem to respond with their favorite tier 1 brand. I get the role mark represents that brand, but do really actually like it graphically?

Lets take noveske for example. Tier 1 brand subjectively, tons of fan boys. But it's an iron cross, do you really dig the iron cross? An iron cross makes me think neo nazi and biker gangs. I get it had a long history, but I live in the present. Personally while owning moves or parts like a barrel, you'll never catch me with a noveske lower because of the role mark.

Next up, Colt. It's got a name, it's got quality, it's got fan boys. But it's got a baby horse on it. Is that your thing? A baby horse, it's like something little girls like. I own a Colt 6720, I am proud of it. But I never look at the role mark and am all like wow that's such a cool little picture.

Lastly KAC. Own one of these too. I think a super cool company, and a knight is cooler than a baby horse or iron cross. But as designs go, I could be a bit better.

Obviously I there is some truly terrible role marks out there. I just found these common responses interesting from a psychological perspective.

I noticed the same and found many responses interesting/amusing. Really, a prancing horse is your favorite roll mark???

I actually started a thread and on reticle preference for CQB a while back. Basically provided a choice between Aimpoint (single dot) style and Eotech (everything else) style. While I believe there are genuinely people who like the single dot, I too found that many couldn't divorce themselves from the brand association; even though I specifically tried to account for that in the poll description.

[officerX]

A lot of interesting and similar responses in this thread.

While I took the question to be which role mark looks the best to you. Many seem to respond with their favorite tier 1 brand. I get the role mark represents that brand, but do really actually like it graphically?

Lets take noveske for example. Tier 1 brand subjectively, tons of fan boys. But it's an iron cross, do you really dig the iron cross? An iron cross makes me think neo nazi and biker gangs. I get it had a long history, but I live in the present. Personally while owning moves or parts like a barrel, you'll never catch me with a noveske lower because of the role mark.

Next up, Colt. It's got a name, it's got quality, it's got fan boys. But it's got a baby horse on it. Is that your thing? A baby horse, it's like something little girls like. I own a Colt 6720, I am proud of it. But I never look at the role mark and am all like wow that's such a cool little picture.

Lastly KAC. Own one of these too. I think a super cool company, and a knight is cooler than a baby horse or iron cross. But as designs go, I could be a bit better.

Obviously I there is some truly terrible role marks out there. I just found these common responses interesting from a psychological perspective.

As the OP, I can tell you that I meant it as which roll mark, regardless of who the manufacturer is, do you think is the best looking. And yes, I do like Noveske's iron cross. I don't own any Noveske products, mostly because of their price, so I definitely don't consider myself a fanboy. I have 3 BCM lowers, for various reason, but none of them is based on their roll mark.

[Endur]

It is an iron X, not cross.. While it might be similar, just rotated, it is still different than WWII Germany awards/decorations.

I am adding SOLGW to my list.

[Stickman]

Lets take noveske for example. Tier 1 brand subjectively, tons of fan boys. But it's an iron cross, do you really dig the iron cross? An iron cross makes me think neo nazi and biker gangs. I get it had a long history, but I live in the present. Personally while owning moves or parts like a barrel, you'll never catch me with a noveske lower because of the role mark.




Your thoughts an opinions are your own, and obviously no one can tell you not to think about Nazi Germany or Biker gangs when you see a Noveske roll mark. A think anyone who is a Freud fanatic would have a field day with that, but I'm no shrink and was never a fan of his.

I do "dig" that roll mark, and used the one John Noveske gave me to build up my duty weapon. I was never worried about a jury thinking I was a Nazi, and not even my freakishly liberal political backstabbing administration had a concern.

[Endur]

Your thoughts an opinions are your own, and obviously no one can tell you not to think about Nazi Germany or Biker gangs when you see a Noveske roll mark. A think anyone who is a Freud fanatic would have a field day with that, but I'm no shrink and was never a fan of his.

I do "dig" that roll mark, and used the one John Noveske gave me to build up my duty weapon. I was never worried about a jury thinking I was a Nazi, and not even my freakishly liberal political backstabbing administration had a concern.

Freud was an interesting man that is for sure. He did have some valid perspectives.

[JC5188]

Your thoughts an opinions are your own, and obviously no one can tell you not to think about Nazi Germany or Biker gangs when you see a Noveske roll mark. A think anyone who is a Freud fanatic would have a field day with that, but I'm no shrink and was never a fan of his.

I do "dig" that roll mark, and used the one John Noveske gave me to build up my duty weapon. I was never worried about a jury thinking I was a Nazi, and not even my freakishly liberal political backstabbing administration had a concern.

Not to mention, the "Iron Cross" is in use by the modern German military. They are particularly sensitive to any kind of symbolism that could be construed as "nazi".

I personally don't believe the Noveske mark is anything more than a cool roll mark.


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[Kdubya]

Not to mention, the "Iron Cross" is in use by the modern German military. They are particularly sensitive to any kind of symbolism that could be construed as "nazi".

I personally don't believe the Noveske mark is anything more than a cool roll mark.


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I think some are missing TM's larger point in focusing on the examples he'd provided. Well, actually only one of the examples. He's definitely not alone on the main observation; that many of the favorite roll marks seemed to be more about the brand they're associated with and hardly related to the standalone logo.

In spite of thinking he's accurate in the observation, I also disagree with the Noveske example. Heck, Noveske made my own top 3. The frequency of references to Colt are a much better indicator that there was some implicit bias in the responses. Suppose we rewrote history. In this alternate universe, Colt and PSA have swapped logos. How many people who listed Colt would have honestly named the PSA Pony as one of their favorite roll marks?

Frankly, the fact that the responses to TM's comment have gone after the "iron cross" portion are further indication that the actual focus of his post was accurate.

[tanktop]

Could someone please design a Black Robe Regiment roll mark?


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[JC5188]

I think some are missing TM's larger point in focusing on the examples he'd provided. Well, actually only one of the examples. He's definitely not alone on the main observation; that many of the favorite roll marks seemed to be more about the brand they're associated with and hardly related to the standalone logo.

In spite of thinking he's accurate in the observation, I also disagree with the Noveske example. Heck, Noveske made my own top 3. The frequency of references to Colt are a much better indicator that there was some implicit bias in the responses. Suppose we rewrote history. In this alternate universe, Colt and PSA have swapped logos. How many people who listed Colt would have honestly named the PSA Pony as one of their favorite roll marks?

Frankly, the fact that the responses to TM's comment have gone after the "iron cross" portion are further indication that the actual focus of his post was accurate.

I'm partial to the Armalite, which is stylized very similarly to Colt.

As far as the other roll marks being chosen because of the brand perception/bias...the "Iron Cross" has long been a universally popular symbol, be it military, bikers, Jewelry, Noveske rifles, etc, etc. the Colt "Rampant Pony" is one of the oldest and most iconic brands that has ever existed. It's easy to see how that would pique someone's interest on nostalgia alone.

Frankly, the "it must be fanboism" mantra every time anyone has something positive to say about certain brands is getting quite old.

The thread is about favorite rollmarks, not the deep psychology behind the choice.

Fwiw, I generally feel the same way about the constant bashing of some brands, but given the mission statement of this forum I understand.


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[Endur]

This thread is circling the drain because of an over analyzing of psychological projection. It is very possible that some chose because of an impartiality towards a brand of choice (this "fanboy" bashing absurdity), but it's just as likely, or more so likely, that they happen to..you know..like the roll mark aesthetically. It is not out of the realm of possibility that it is purely coincidence their choice is also their preferred brand.

How about we all take each other's word as honesty, at least until the contrary manifests.

[Jormungandr]

SOLGW soul snatcher

[Stickman]

I think some are missing TM's larger point in focusing on the examples he'd provided. Well, actually only one of the examples. He's definitely not alone on the main observation; that many of the favorite roll marks seemed to be more about the brand they're associated with and hardly related to the standalone logo.

In spite of thinking he's accurate in the observation, I also disagree with the Noveske example. Heck, Noveske made my own top 3. The frequency of references to Colt are a much better indicator that there was some implicit bias in the responses. Suppose we rewrote history. In this alternate universe, Colt and PSA have swapped logos. How many people who listed Colt would have honestly named the PSA Pony as one of their favorite roll marks?

Frankly, the fact that the responses to TM's comment have gone after the "iron cross" portion are further indication that the actual focus of his post was accurate.


Trying to tell people their opinions are invalid because he doesn't like a dancing pony and thinks the iron cross is nazi and biker reminiscent validates his beliefs when people disagree? :D We are just going to have to disagree on that point.

For people to associate a like of the brand with a like for the roll mark isn't uncommon at all. It is part of marketing and branding.

[pinzgauer]

Not to mention, the "Iron Cross" is in use by the modern German military. They are particularly sensitive to any kind of symbolism that could be construed as "nazi".

I personally don't believe the Noveske mark is anything more than a cool roll mark.

Besides, the Noveske rollmark is not an Iron Cross, it's technically a rounded or consecration cross, and rotated 45 degrees to boot.

It's an early Christian or Celtic design. Was never used in Nazi heraldry. Most likely Celtic variant given its rotation.

Likewise, Nazi era iron crosses had a swastika in the center.

Germany has a total ban on Nazi heraldry. Guess what the symbol for the Bundeswehr (their army) is? Croix Patee, what you guys are calling an iron cross.

Sometimes a cigar is just a good smoke...

[Sancho Panza]

Colt followed by Colt.

[pag23]

On just looks alone.. I like the old Bushmaster snake... but cool design factor is KAC, SOLGW and MEGA...

[Endur]

Besides, the Noveske rollmark is not an Iron Cross, it's technically a rounded or consecration cross, and rotated 45 degrees to boot.

It's an early Christian or Celtic design. Was never used in Nazi heraldry. Most likely Celtic variant given its rotation.

Likewise, Nazi era iron crosses had a swastika in the center.

Germany has a total ban on Nazi heraldry. Guess what the symbol for the Bundeswehr (their army) is? Croix Patee, what you guys are calling an iron cross.

Sometimes a cigar is just a good smoke...

Poof.

[TMS951]

Trying to tell people their opinions are invalid because he doesn't like a dancing pony and thinks the iron cross is nazi and biker reminiscent validates his beliefs when people disagree? :D We are just going to have to disagree on that point.

For people to associate a like of the brand with a like for the roll mark isn't uncommon at all. It is part of marketing and branding.

You seem super duper butt hurt by by Noveske statement. If you feel different from me, and feel I'm wrong why should my statement get your panties so bunched? Enjoy your not-ironcross on your rifle and drive on. And for the record my statement on the Noveske symbol stated with "I know it has a long history", you know pre and post dating the Third Reich. I stated my interpretation of it, and what it conveys to me based on how I have seem it used in modern american culture.

I also learned in this thread something I didn't pick up on, its not an actual Maltise/Iron cross. its just seemingly inspired by it.

I have no idea how you pull "their opinions are invalid" because I asked a question based on an observation I made. My observation was about psychology of picking favorites, and what influences are. Being that the appeal of a role mark is subjective, it is psychological and pertinent to the conversation. I made no indication their opinion was invalid, I simply made an observation about how brand image can influence how people feel about a Graphic.

[officerX]

QUIT ARGUING ABOUT WHO LIKES WHAT AND FOR WHAT REASON!!!! GET BACK ON TOPIC AND JUST POST WHAT YOU LIKE! TAKE THE BITCHING TO PMs!

[TMS951]

Sorry, heres on topic.

I think Aero has a nice simple logo. I like their name which often lends to role marks. I think a gun that for its design time has 'aero space' technology and parts its neat to have aero space suppliers making parts for them.

Aero comes out with some nice limited edition logos from time to time. I think this "retro' one of thiers was very cool in its small size and simplicity.

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[stevenravenscroft]

I like the Aero

[Fly8791]

Pet peeve of mine since I am a firefighter and EVERYONE in the fire service miss identifies the "Maltese Cross".

You see a fire patch or fire union shirt what it has is actually the Florian Cross named in honor of Saint Florian who gave his life protecting Christians:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Florian

The true "Maltese Cross" had nothing but sharp angles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cross

The more you know...

[Fly8791]

Back on topic.

As much as I hate to admit it, the AR15.com Bolt Rollmark is cool looking.

[Kdubya]

Edit: Didn't see the replies that had come after the ones I'd quoted...no point in derailing again.

[officerX]

Back on topic.

As much as I hate to admit it, the AR15.com Bolt Rollmark is cool looking.

I had forgotten about that but I agree with you.

[JC5188]

Besides, the Noveske rollmark is not an Iron Cross, it's technically a rounded or consecration cross, and rotated 45 degrees to boot.

It's an early Christian or Celtic design. Was never used in Nazi heraldry. Most likely Celtic variant given its rotation.

Likewise, Nazi era iron crosses had a swastika in the center.

Germany has a total ban on Nazi heraldry. Guess what the symbol for the Bundeswehr (their army) is? Croix Patee, what you guys are calling an iron cross.

Sometimes a cigar is just a good smoke...

Yes, that is why I had it in quotations...I wasn't sure what the current iteration is called, but WAS sure that it has zero nazi connotation.

Also, don't recall it being mentioned, but the old school S&W rollmark is another fave.

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[tanktop]

Glad we cleared that up as I was about to throw out all my old Independent skate company swag (insert green font).


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[RichinVA]

UCWRG

[pinzgauer]

Yes, that is why I had it in quotations...I wasn't sure what the current iteration is called, but WAS sure that it has zero nazi connotation.

Gotta be real careful with those iron cross looking imagery... Some have dangerous connotations:

http://www.medalsofamerica.com/ItemImages/Large/DC2179L_hdr.jpg

(US Army Marksmanship medal)

[Endur]

Gotta be real careful with those iron cross looking imagery... Some have dangerous connotations:

http://www.medalsofamerica.com/ItemImages/Large/DC2179L_hdr.jpg

(US Army Marksmanship medal)

It is in all three designations. Haha.

[hdrolling]

Gotta be real careful with those iron cross looking imagery... Some have dangerous connotations:

http://www.medalsofamerica.com/ItemImages/Large/DC2179L_hdr.jpg

(US Army Marksmanship medal)

Not so much for that one, that's the lowest level "I barely qualified" medal.

[JoshNC]

Colt is by far my favorite, followed by KAC and LMT

[curious1]

RAT Worx is my favorite

[NickB]

I'm obviously biased, but the Radian lower is a favorite and will be available again very soon.

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[WickedWillis]

I'm obviously biased, but the Radian lower is a favorite and will be available again very soon.

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I will say Nick, those look very nice

[Kenneth]

^^^ that's nice.

I got an ambi ADM lower and wanted one of the old styles but they changed their tooling and sent me a new style. Don't care for it much just because it doesn't have the boxes on the magwell.


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[stevenravenscroft]

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Anderson doesnt have a real bold rollmark and I kind of like that. This is my second build and looks much better than my 6920. Not the quality of my bcm of course. Im building another one and putting a complete bcm 300 blk out on top of it

[w3453l]

Not trying to sound like a smart @xx, but I like the blank/no logo lower I got from JD Machine. It still has the serial number and required markings, but nothing more than that.

I also like LMT's roll mark for simplicity.

I have also always liked KAC's rollmark.

[w3453l]

I'm obviously biased, but the Radian lower is a favorite and will be available again very soon.

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I forgot to add to my post, this is great news!

[geoleo3]

I like my Vorn Lima II but the Lima I was probably the sexiest

[kwelz]

Hard to argue with the simplicity of Noveske.
I also like Black Rain's Logo. So much so that I picked up one of their billet upper/lower sets and transfered an entire BCM rifle over to them.

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[devinsdad]

San Tan Tactical

[Cerberus]

Add me to the list of those that think most of the logos used are quite moronic looking. Just put your name on the thing and call it good.

[pinzgauer]

Been looking at Colt's M4 rollmark... it's really two logo's. Which does not make sense, except for the space is rectangular and they could not make either logo much larger. So it sort of makes sense to have both.

The prancing pony, while iconic, is not that recognizable when the size of a quarter. Where the script Colt is, so based on "Logo Rule" readability it's a bit stronger.

LMT is oval, so fits the rectangular space more. As does Armalite, though it's a bit like Colt, really two logos. KAC is much larger. Don't mind the logo, but the size is a bit tacky. To me, the Stoner Rifle part is more significant than the actual heraldry/logo.

[JRHorne]

Found another one I like: Ballistic Advantage. Looks cool to me and they are produced by Aero. Since they are on sale, I ordered one to complete my Sionics build.

http://ballisticadvantage.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1000x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/b/a/bapa100039-ar15-stripped-lower-receiver.jpg

[Boba Fett v2]

KAC, LMT, Colt

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[Boba Fett v2]

A lot of interesting and similar responses in this thread.

While I took the question to be which role mark looks the best to you. Many seem to respond with their favorite tier 1 brand. I get the role mark represents that brand, but do really actually like it graphically?

Lets take noveske for example. Tier 1 brand subjectively, tons of fan boys. But it's an iron cross, do you really dig the iron cross? An iron cross makes me think neo nazi and biker gangs. I get it had a long history, but I live in the present. Personally while owning moves or parts like a barrel, you'll never catch me with a noveske lower because of the role mark.

Next up, Colt. It's got a name, it's got quality, it's got fan boys. But it's got a baby horse on it. Is that your thing? A baby horse, it's like something little girls like. I own a Colt 6720, I am proud of it. But I never look at the role mark and am all like wow that's such a cool little picture.

Lastly KAC. Own one of these too. I think a super cool company, and a knight is cooler than a baby horse or iron cross. But as designs go, I could be a bit better.

Obviously I there is some truly terrible role marks out there. I just found these common responses interesting from a psychological perspective.

With regards to Noveske, I own one of their lowers (SBR'd), which was built up using a lot of Noveske components with their logo somewhere on it. For the record, as a non-caucasian member here, I do not affiliate with Neo-Nazi types, bikers or anything remotely close to that. While I understand the logo looks like an iron cross turned 45 degrees to appear as an iron "X", my understanding is that it is actually a profile of rifling button or broach, which was discussed in this thread (https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1077481_.html) several years ago. Not sure if this is actually the case or not, but I suppose it could be if one chooses to see it that way. Nevertheless, the logo is okay with me. Anyone who likes it because they see it as symbol of a cause or an idea they can identify with, well I can't help that.

With regards to KAC, the shield, helm, sword, axe and spearhead on their logo just seems fitting for a tool that the "knights" of today wield in battle in far off lands, and also maintaining security and keeping the peace here at home. More than anything, I absolutely love seeing "STONER RIFLE" right above that logo.

[Boba Fett v2]

I noticed the same and found many responses interesting/amusing. Really, a prancing horse is your favorite roll mark???

I actually started a thread and on reticle preference for CQB a while back. Basically provided a choice between Aimpoint (single dot) style and Eotech (everything else) style. While I believe there are genuinely people who like the single dot, I too found that many couldn't divorce themselves from the brand association; even though I specifically tried to account for that in the poll description.

It's not that it's a "favorite" rollmark or that it's even aesthetically pleasing to me, but the fact that there's a lot of history in that rollmark. The Colt M16A2 was my first duty rifle and it has gotten me through a lot of combat action during my 20+ years of military service. There's a comforting familiarity with seeing that "prancing pony" on a lower receiver, whether it's an issued M4 or a personal build. My life and the lives of the guys I served with depended on it. For me it has earned certain level of respect, and I would wager there are those out there who harbor the same sentiment.

[Displaced Texan]

Colt and Mega Arms are my two favorites.

[Cartel]

Knight's Armament Company followed by Colt.

[P2000]

V7 takes the cake for me. Simple rollmark on a nicely designed lower.

http://i.imgur.com/wONKUta.jpg