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Overall good but very, very dark. It is also not the movie to see if you are having a mid-life crisis or need to feel young.
Is it too dark to take my 14 year old daughter to watch with me?
Is it too dark to take my 14 year old daughter to watch with me?
Lots of gore and F-bombs and some brief titties...
Thank you, Sensei. One business put up a sign warning patrons not to let kids watch. I'll heed that advice.
Thank you, Sensei. One business put up a sign warning patrons not to let kids watch. I'll heed that advice.
Probably a good idea. Every parent is a little different, but 16-18 on this one is probably best for most kids.
Don't get me wrong, it was excellent and may be the best SiFi movie of the year. You definitely see a disturbing side of Professor X and Wolverine.
Thank you, Sensei. One business put up a sign warning patrons not to let kids watch. I'll heed that advice.
It is rated R. Very few if any movies of the ilk get an R rating. Really surprised they did that as it cuts off a good % of younger viewers who'd go see it. Maybe they are trying to appeal to a more mature audience or something, but a movie in the X Men series and spin off being R rated seems a mistake to me. I was not real impressed with the last spin logan movies personally. X Men movies are generally fun, but these have been meh so far for me.
It is rated R. Very few if any movies of the ilk get an R rating. Really surprised they did that as it cuts off a good % of younger viewers who'd go see it. Maybe they are trying to appeal to a more mature audience or something, but a movie in the X Men series and spin off being R rated seems a mistake to me. I was not real impressed with the last spin logan movies personally. X Men movies are generally fun, but these have been meh so far for me.
I think they're trying to make it less comic booky and more gritty
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It is rated R. Very few if any movies of the ilk get an R rating. Really surprised they did that as it cuts off a good % of younger viewers who'd go see it. Maybe they are trying to appeal to a more mature audience or something, but a movie in the X Men series and spin off being R rated seems a mistake to me. I was not real impressed with the last spin logan movies personally. X Men movies are generally fun, but these have been meh so far for me.
I don't know man. It had a $7M opening night draw on a Thursday and is projected to clear $100 million this weekend. That is approaching Rogue One territory in terms finances for a non-Summer blockbuster. It is also getting 93% approval on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.9/10 IMDb, and 75% Metascore making it a commercial, critical, and audience success. If that's a mistake, I'd love to see how you define success.
Most importantly, I'm telling you that it's worth your time. I think that we covered this ground a couple of months ago when you were reluctant to see Rogue One, right homie? Am I going to steer you wrong? ;)
Anyway, I remember hearing that Jackman was getting frustrated being typecast as the Wolverine. It appears that he wanted to demonstrate an ability outside of the usual superhero role and he did a good job.
Anyone else watching the FX Marvel Universe series Legion? It's not revealed in the series so far, but the lead character is the son of Professor Charles Xavier. If I had to come up with words to describe it? Weird, cerebral, dark, moody, spooky, unsettling, absolutely not anywhere near the same as any of the previous Marvel's feature films or shows. The Marvel Universe is far more diverse than those who just see the movies would know.
MountainRaven
03-03-17, 16:02
I don't know man. It had a $7M opening night draw on a Thursday and is projected to clear $100 million this weekend. That is approaching Rogue One territory in terms finances for a non-Summer blockbuster. It is also getting 93% approval on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.9/10 IMDb, and 75% Metascore making it a commercial, critical, and audience success. If that's a mistake, I'd love to see how you define success.
Most importantly, I'm telling you that it's worth your time. I think that we covered this ground a couple of months ago when you were reluctant to see Rogue One, right homie? Am I going to steer you wrong? ;)
Anyway, I remember hearing that Jackman was getting frustrated being typecast as the Wolverine. It appears that he wanted to demonstrate an ability outside of the usual superhero role and he did a good job.
To add to this: The last well-received superhero movie Fox produced was Deadpool, which was also rated R.
Since they can't seem to replicate the same formula as Disney/Marvel, it seems that serious (and/or adult humor) R-rated movies are where they're headed. And I don't object.
Now if only the DC movies can find their stride....
Dist. Expert 26
03-03-17, 16:49
I read this is the last X-Men movie that Hugh Jackman will play in, as well as the guy who plays the old Dr. X. It's definitely on my list of things to do next weekend.
Ned Christiansen
03-03-17, 17:05
Heard on the radio today that Patrick Stuart wants to become a US citizen so he can have more influence against anything and everything President Trump does.
Heard on the radio today that Patrick Stuart wants to become a US citizen so he can have more influence against anything and everything President Trump does.
He is a self-described socialist.
He is a self-described socialist.
Pretty sure he's got a thing for Magneto off set too.
I'm not so sure. I know that Gandalf is gay, but Picard is married. There doesn't seem to be a stigma in Hollywood or Europe against gays, so I don't know why he would hide it if true.
MountainRaven
03-03-17, 21:52
I'm not so sure. I know that Gandalf is gay, but Picard is married. There doesn't seem to be a stigma in Hollywood or Europe against gays, so I don't know why he would hide it if true.
Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart are BFFs.
I read this is the last X-Men movie that Hugh Jackman will play in, as well as the guy who plays the old Dr. X. It's definitely on my list of things to do next weekend.
Dr. X? Who's that?
Are we seriously talking about a friggin comic book based movie here? I'd never go see this crap in a million years.
Are we seriously talking about a friggin comic book based movie here? I'd never go see this crap in a million years.
I could make a thread about the new Nintendo switch?
sinlessorrow
03-04-17, 06:31
It is rated R. Very few if any movies of the ilk get an R rating. Really surprised they did that as it cuts off a good % of younger viewers who'd go see it. Maybe they are trying to appeal to a more mature audience or something, but a movie in the X Men series and spin off being R rated seems a mistake to me. I was not real impressed with the last spin logan movies personally. X Men movies are generally fun, but these have been meh so far for me.
Deadpool as rated R, is an X men, and was the highest grossing R rated movie ever.
Deadpool as rated R, is an X men, and was the highest grossing R rated movie ever.
Deadpool was obviously going to be R and intended to be from the start. I didn't know there were any X Men movies rated R. Maybe R is the new black or some chit. They have to take it up a notch I guess. Next, Logan does Dallas.
Dr. X? Who's that?
Professor Xavier. But you can call him Capt. Jean-Luc Picard...
Are we seriously talking about a friggin comic book based movie here? I'd never go see this crap in a million years.
Just because this forum is mostly about serious shit, doesn't mean people don't have imaginations.
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Are we seriously talking about a friggin comic book based movie here? I'd never go see this crap in a million years.
Mark and Will, I am not an X-men fan and have only seen several of the movies on cable. I didn't even know that this was the first R-rated one.
I went to the theater to watch something else, but the showing time was off. So, I watched 'Logan' instead.
Sensei is right it was a good movie. Definitely dark, and pretty violent (not for younger kids). Hugh Jackman said in an interview that this is his last role in the X-Men.
I thought the Star Wars movie would be no good too, but I was wrong. Rogue one was a great movie.
There are a lot of guns and shooting which I think Markm would enjoy. There's even a few funny moments too.
All I can say is that I was pleasantly surprised and noticed that the film critics seemed to like it too.
P.S. I think my favorite Hugh Jackman movie was 'Australia' 2008. That was an excellent movie. Nicole Kidman was in it too and looked absolutely Gorgeous. Worth watching if you missed it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mfI4hK9I2k0
Deadpool was obviously going to be R and intended to be from the start...
I think that Logan was intended to be R from the start too.
While the some of gore was part of the action theme, a lot of the more disturbing violence and adult situations were used to develop the characters far beyond most SiFi action flicks. I don't want to spoil it for you but the action sequences surrounding Eriq La Salle and his family are exactly what I mean about developing character themes beyond anything Marvel has done yet.
Mark and Will, I am not an X-men fan and have only seen several of the movies on cable. I didn't even know that this was the first R-rated one.
I went to the theater to watch something else, but the showing time was off. So, I watched 'Logan' instead.
Sensei is right it was a good movie. Definitely dark, and pretty violent (not for younger kids). Hugh Jackman said in an interview that this is his last role in the X-Men.
I thought the Star Wars movie would be no good too, but I was wrong. Rogue one was a great movie too.
There are a lot of guns and shooting which I think Markm would enjoy. There's even a few funny moments too.
All I can say is that I was pleasantly surprised and noticed that the film critics seemed to like too.
They even used top of the line LWRCI's for many of the long gun sequences. You know the movie producers are serious when they use a firearms manufacturer that rivals the quality of Colt, LMT and KAC...;)
I think that Logan was intended to be R from the start too.
While the some of gore was part of the action theme, a lot of the more disturbing violence and adult situations were used to develop the characters far beyond most SiFi action flicks. I don't want to spoil it for you but the action sequences surrounding Eriq La Salle and his family are exactly what I mean about developing character themes beyond anything Marvel has done yet.
I'll rent it when it hits ITunes for sure.
sinlessorrow
03-04-17, 11:11
Deadpool was obviously going to be R and intended to be from the start. I didn't know there were any X Men movies rated R. Maybe R is the new black or some chit. They have to take it up a notch I guess. Next, Logan does Dallas.
Logan was always going to be rated R as well.
Why not go see it? You liked Dr strange enough to review it here. Logan blows it away.
Anyway, I remember hearing that Jackman was getting frustrated being typecast as the Wolverine. It appears that he wanted to demonstrate an ability outside of the usual superhero role and he did a good job.
You are correct. Jackman sees himself as a serious actor, and wants to be taken seriously. That's been a problem for him since he played Wolverine so well in the first movie.
As well, the trend in super hero movies has been to skew darker (think Captain America Winter Soldier and Avengers Civil War, which I have other criticisms of. I worked with the Russo Brothers, and find it ironic that two comedy TV directors missed almost all the humor that made the other Avenger movies enjoyable).
I think that the producers, and the studio, decided to make a movie that the audience of the original X-Men movie would go see. That movie came out in 2000; the PG-13 audience that saw it would be in their 30s at the younger end of the scale.
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Are we seriously talking about a friggin comic book based movie here? I'd never go see this crap in a million years.
Who pissed in your Post Toasties?
MountainRaven
03-04-17, 13:28
You are correct. Jackman sees himself as a serious actor, and wants to be taken seriously. That's been a problem for him since he played Wolverine so well in the first movie.
As well, the trend in super hero movies has been to skew darker (think Captain America Winter Soldier and Avengers Civil War, which I have other criticisms of. I worked with the Russo Brothers, and find it ironic that two comedy TV directors missed almost all the humor that made the other Avenger movies enjoyable).
I think that the producers, and the studio, decided to make a movie that the audience of the original X-Men movie would go see. That movie came out in 2000; the PG-13 audience that saw it would be in their 30s at the younger end of the scale.
The Russos are clearly no Joss Whedon. ;)
As with all of the Marvel movies, Logan is an amalgamation of multiple storylines and different versions of the character. Its primary influences are Old Man Logan and Death of Wolverine. Both are "end of life" type of stories, not comic book swashbuckling stories. Logan is definitely not raunchy like Deadpool, but it is on the high end of graphic violence.
....and went in with Sensei's mid life crisis warning and was underwhelmed.
I kept waiting for this epiphany of dread and self loathing and sadly none was here.
I saw a ripoff of Shane, Leon the Professional, and even a bit of Taxi Driver with a dash of D.C. Cab. It was gory and had tricked out ARs but the gore neither shocked me or interested me. It was kinda video gamey. The bare breasteses were either too fake or not fake enough. In MY day, breasteses meant something.
The Good
-The girl who plays X-23 is very talented. She can say a lot with her expressions and had a gamine quality not unlike Audrey Hepburn. She was quite an urchin and stole the movie. If they keep tabs on her, in 10 years she could handily carry her own X-23 film.
-The Ford truck porn
-The drunk frat guys cheering on Border Patrol. It was meant to subtly shame the audience yet I heard audibly cheering as well so that one backfired.
-Roy Rogers McFreely's bunch gettin' their due. I always had these perverse and morbid fantasies as a child of what would happen if the A-Team didn't just shoot guns out of hands of cowpokes and claim jumpers.
The Bad
-Jean Luc Picard is too old for this shit. Hearing him cuss was out of character. In fact, he was a bit of a wet blanket.
-The queer with the robot hand. Lame and weak.
-X-24. I was expecting some godless, souless monster. Some freak of nature, Brock Lesnar looking dude. Nope. Lame.
-Hugh Jackman really didnt want to be in this movie. I got this real Nick Nolte showing up drunk and half assed vibe. That was not acting. That was all HJ just being all "Geezus when is this shit gonna be over already?"
The Absolutely Fabulously Exceptional
-Deadpool teaser. Oh my goodness, it was glorious. Worth price of admission alone.
Otherwise meh.....I liked Apocalypse more because Olivia Munn cameltoe in Imax.
I give it a C+. If you're iffy on it, wait to stream it.
sinlessorrow
03-05-17, 17:50
....and went in with Sensei's mid life crisis warning and was underwhelmed.
I kept waiting for this epiphany of dread and self loathing and sadly none was here.
I saw a ripoff of Shane, Leon the Professional, and even a bit of Taxi Driver with a dash of D.C. Cab. It was gory and had tricked out ARs but the gore neither shocked me or interested me. It was kinda video gamey. The bare breasteses were either too fake or not fake enough. In MY day, breasteses meant something.
The Good
-The girl who plays X-23 is very talented. She can say a lot with her expressions and had a gamine quality not unlike Audrey Hepburn. She was quite an urchin and stole the movie. If they keep tabs on her, in 10 years she could handily carry her own X-23 film.
-The Ford truck porn
-The drunk frat guys cheering on Border Patrol. It was meant to subtly shame the audience yet I heard audibly cheering as well so that one backfired.
-Roy Rogers McFreely's bunch gettin' their due. I always had these perverse and morbid fantasies as a child of what would happen if the A-Team didn't just shoot guns out of hands of cowpokes and claim jumpers.
The Bad
-Jean Luc Picard is too old for this shit. Hearing him cuss was out of character. In fact, he was a bit of a wet blanket.
-The queer with the robot hand. Lame and weak.
-X-24. I was expecting some godless, souless monster. Some freak of nature, Brock Lesnar looking dude. Nope. Lame.
-Hugh Jackman really didnt want to be in this movie. I got this real Nick Nolte showing up drunk and half assed vibe. That was not acting. That was all HJ just being all "Geezus when is this shit gonna be over already?"
The Absolutely Fabulously Exceptional
-Deadpool teaser. Oh my goodness, it was glorious. Worth price of admission alone.
Otherwise meh.....I liked Apocalypse more because Olivia Munn cameltoe in Imax.
I give it a C+. If you're iffy on it, wait to stream it.
You do know Hughe Jackman purposely took a pay cut to make this movie R and he was a major part in why it took the dark path it did?
He went all in for this movie and his acting was superb. I would be curious to know your thoughts on prior wolverine movies if you thought this was half assed.
You do know Hughe Jackman purposely took a pay cut to make this movie R and he was a major part in why it took the dark path it did?
He went all in for this movie and his acting was superb. I would be curious to know your thoughts on prior wolverine movies if you thought this was half assed.
They all sucked.
Origins was lame and almost ruined Deafpool.
I tried to sit through The Wolverine and couldnt. I got tired of the Oriental spiel and it was boring.
There were moments of potential like Wolverine in Vietnam which should have been its own movie or a proper Lady Deathstrike. Kelly Hu was too short and squat in X2.
Yakuza are played out same as Russian Mob.
Wolverine is best as a supporting character where he is the disgruntled guy with a sarcastic or gruff comment to make and then be the guy to go into an Adamantium Rage at the last minute.
But as a stand alone guy he's boring.
Same with Punisher. Anybody could theoretically be the Punisher. But he's always worked best amidst Superheroes as a pissed off 'Nam vet sticking it to supervillains.
I used to be into comics as a youth. When they were GOOD. Wolverine was either trying to make a pass at Jean Grey, always being a grouch, and then Snikt Snikt.
But the standalone movies were all bad
All of the x-men movies have been meh to me compared to the iron man / avengers series.
I loved deadpool, but even it was over the top.
I like wolverine enough to like any movie with him in it, but I can recognize they're not the best.
I am definitely looking forward to this one though.
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The Russos are clearly no Joss Whedon. ;)
As a professional in the industry, you just made me laugh coffee out of my nose!
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WickedWillis
03-08-17, 12:56
As someone who grew up as Wolverine being my favorite Marvel character, this was the best version they have had of Wolverine on film. I have always liked Jackman in the title role. The film was very dark, very brutal, and it's about damn time. I am glad it's doing well. It did open several doors, and there was a constant mystery surrounding all previous events. I wish it followed the "Old Man Logan" story arch more than it did, but it is what it is.
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